"Cecil Moore" wrote in message
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Gene Fuller wrote:

Cecil Moore wrote:
A 75m bugcatcher coil is self resonant at 6.6 MHz. That's
near 4 MHz. Where is all your irrationality coming from?

The exact quote from your message on April 11, at 9:57 am is
copied
below. I don't see anything about a bugcatcher coil.

The coil being discussed is a bugcatcher coil modeled in EZNEC.

Since the Corum paper highlighted the limitation for applicability
of
the magic formula it is possible he thought that the limitation
might be
important.

The limitation that Dr. Corum highlighted was the failure of the
lumped circuit model when the coil is self-resonant. He says that
when we are within 17% of self-resonance, the lumped circuit model
fails. Have you anything besides faith to prove that your model
is valid within 60% of self-resonance?

Please describe the physics behind a radical change in velocity
factor (at the same frequency) when a coil is cut in half.
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Dear Cec,

What is the failure mode?
Is it a sudden catastropic failure?
Or does it fail very slowly, gradually and gently?

What is Dr.Corum a doctor of?

From your quotes he sounds like a Quack. Or is he a Witch?

What does he have to say about Fractals, E-H and the other wierd
contraptions?

How many other worshipping followers does he have besides yourself?

Or are you just pulling our varicose-veined legs?

All rhetorical questions of course. Answers not required.
----
Your old, well-intentioned pal, Reg.

Reg Edwards wrote:

"Cecil Moore" wrote in message
. com...

Gene Fuller wrote:


Cecil Moore wrote:
A 75m bugcatcher coil is self resonant at 6.6 MHz. That's
near 4 MHz. Where is all your irrationality coming from?

The exact quote from your message on April 11, at 9:57 am is

copied

below. I don't see anything about a bugcatcher coil.

The coil being discussed is a bugcatcher coil modeled in EZNEC.


Since the Corum paper highlighted the limitation for applicability

of

the magic formula it is possible he thought that the limitation

might be

important.

The limitation that Dr. Corum highlighted was the failure of the
lumped circuit model when the coil is self-resonant. He says that
when we are within 17% of self-resonance, the lumped circuit model
fails. Have you anything besides faith to prove that your model
is valid within 60% of self-resonance?

Please describe the physics behind a radical change in velocity
factor (at the same frequency) when a coil is cut in half.
--

========================================
Dear Cec,

What is the failure mode?
Is it a sudden catastropic failure?
Or does it fail very slowly, gradually and gently?

What is Dr.Corum a doctor of?

From your quotes he sounds like a Quack. Or is he a Witch?

What does he have to say about Fractals, E-H and the other wierd
contraptions?

How many other worshipping followers does he have besides yourself?

Or are you just pulling our varicose-veined legs?

All rhetorical questions of course. Answers not required.
----
Your old, well-intentioned pal, Reg.



There are two Drs. Corum. Perhaps they're a husband-husband team.
At any rate, they're Cecil clones, manufacturing a controversy out
of thin air and fighting valiantly for it.
73,
Tom Donaly, KA6RUH

Tom Donaly wrote:
There are two Drs. Corum. Perhaps they're a husband-husband team.

I believe they are brothers.
--
73, Cecil http://www.qsl.net/w5dxp

Reg Edwards wrote:
What is the failure mode?
Is it a sudden catastropic failure?
Or does it fail very slowly, gradually and gently?

It fails gradually. It fails earlier for phase calculations
than it does for magnitude calculations. That's why the
phase shifts reported here are completely invalid. Here's
how it goes:

1. There is no phase shift through a lumped inductance.

2. The standing wave current with its unchanging phase
shows zero phase shift through a loading coil.

3. Therefore, a real world loading shows zero phase shift
just like a lumped inductance.

The proof was preassumed and invalid measurements support
the preassumed proof. Case closed!
--
73, Cecil http://www.qsl.net/w5dxp

Reg Edwards wrote:
"Cecil Moore" wrote in message
. com...
Gene Fuller wrote:

Cecil Moore wrote:
A 75m bugcatcher coil is self resonant at 6.6 MHz. That's
near 4 MHz. Where is all your irrationality coming from?

The exact quote from your message on April 11, at 9:57 am is
copied
below. I don't see anything about a bugcatcher coil.
The coil being discussed is a bugcatcher coil modeled in EZNEC.

Since the Corum paper highlighted the limitation for applicability
of
the magic formula it is possible he thought that the limitation
might be
important.
The limitation that Dr. Corum highlighted was the failure of the
lumped circuit model when the coil is self-resonant. He says that
when we are within 17% of self-resonance, the lumped circuit model
fails. Have you anything besides faith to prove that your model
is valid within 60% of self-resonance?

Please describe the physics behind a radical change in velocity
factor (at the same frequency) when a coil is cut in half.
--
========================================
Dear Cec,

What is the failure mode?
Is it a sudden catastropic failure?
Or does it fail very slowly, gradually and gently?

What is Dr.Corum a doctor of?

From your quotes he sounds like a Quack. Or is he a Witch?

What does he have to say about Fractals, E-H and the other wierd
contraptions?

How many other worshipping followers does he have besides yourself?

Or are you just pulling our varicose-veined legs?

All rhetorical questions of course. Answers not required.
----
Your old, well-intentioned pal, Reg.

I summoned the spirit of the late Bert Newman G2FIX. Bert thinks Cecil
is full of beans.

Dave K8MN