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apartment dwellers antenna
i live in an single story first floor apartment,
any ideas on an 80-10 meter antenna indoors only, thanks jack |
2 magloops? I have seen various designs for loops under 1 metre in diameter
Cheers VK2YQA i live in an single story first floor apartment, any ideas on an 80-10 meter antenna indoors only, thanks jack -- (The reply address is broken. Put bcnoop in front of the at!) |
In message OBaDb.549665$Tr4.1495835@attbi_s03, j.beltz
writes i live in an single story first floor apartment, any ideas on an 80-10 meter antenna indoors only, thanks jack Can you get at the roof space? Mike -- M.J.Powell |
Hi Jack
I lived in an apartment for several years, NO ANTENNAS OF ANY KIND ALLOWED. Inside or outside. They provided a TV antenna hookup, lousy, but they provided it, so we couldn't even have rabbit ears. Yet I had quite an antenna farm, and no one was the wiser about it. Dipoles are fairly easy to disguise as something else. But I had a 160 meter dipole in plain sight and no one paid a bit of attention to it. Only because of the steps I took previously to draw attention away from it as an antenna, to something else, like a kite caught in a tree and this was the string to it. Antenna's in flower pots, and the coax to them inside of a garden hose, etc. Where there is a will, there is a way (and/or relatives), depending upon the type of will, hi hi..... The easiest antenna I installed inside, was simply using self-adhesive copper foil, like aluminum burglar window foil, but only made of copper. You can get this at almost any stained glass supplier. Stick it to the ceiling, in the corners and then paint over it, it becomes invisible. I caulked over mine lightly before painting. I even made a little stationary mini-beam on one wall using this copper foil. It couldn't be rotated, but it pointed in the direction I needed it to, to hit a distant 6 meter repeater with my HT. After I found out it worked so well, I spackled over it and repainted the wall, it was completely invisible except for a BNC connector just above the baseboard, which was easily removed when I moved. TTUL Gary |
On Mon, 15 Dec 2003 04:17:50 GMT, "j.beltz"
wrote: i live in an single story first floor apartment, any ideas on an 80-10 meter antenna indoors only, thanks jack If you can park close to your apartment, a mobile antenna on your car, with a temporary line running out to your car, could be a possibility. If you can put a short, angled whip in your window, look at the Barker & Williamson AP-10A. (www.bwantennas.com) Many years ago, I had good luck running one from a 3rd story window. Good for 40 through 2 meters. Otherwise, you could string up dipoles for the higher HF bands in your apartment. For the outdoors, suppliers like www.thewireman.com have #26 black insulated antenna wire, which is nearly invisible against the sky, and RG-174 coax, which is only 1/8" thick -- though it could be tricky stringing anything up on an apartment ground. Finally, when your lease is up, you might look into a house rental :-) Bob k5qwg |
j.beltz wrote:
i live in an single story first floor apartment, any ideas on an 80-10 meter antenna indoors only, I've always wanted to try hardware cloth or copper screen on the floor and ceiling with a vertical copper pipe in the middle of the room. Are you married? :-) -- 73, Cecil http://www.qsl.net/w5dxp -----= Posted via Newsfeeds.Com, Uncensored Usenet News =----- http://www.newsfeeds.com - The #1 Newsgroup Service in the World! -----== Over 100,000 Newsgroups - 19 Different Servers! =----- |
"Cecil Moore" wrote in message ... j.beltz wrote: i live in an single story first floor apartment, any ideas on an 80-10 meter antenna indoors only, I've always wanted to try hardware cloth or copper screen on the floor and ceiling with a vertical copper pipe in the middle of the room. Are you married? :-) -- 73, Cecil http://www.qsl.net/w5dxp Oh, damn! Cecil is gay? |
Ken Bessler wrote:
"Cecil Moore" wrote: I've always wanted to try hardware cloth or copper screen on the floor and ceiling with a vertical copper pipe in the middle of the room. Are you married? :-) Oh, damn! Cecil is gay? Nope, but even if I were, I'll bet I would still be living alone. :-) -- 73, Cecil http://www.qsl.net/w5dxp -----= Posted via Newsfeeds.Com, Uncensored Usenet News =----- http://www.newsfeeds.com - The #1 Newsgroup Service in the World! -----== Over 100,000 Newsgroups - 19 Different Servers! =----- |
"Cecil Moore" wrote in message ... Ken Bessler wrote: "Cecil Moore" wrote: I've always wanted to try hardware cloth or copper screen on the floor and ceiling with a vertical copper pipe in the middle of the room. Are you married? :-) Oh, damn! Cecil is gay? Nope, but even if I were, I'll bet I would still be living alone. :-) -- 73, Cecil http://www.qsl.net/w5dxp LOL! Poor Cecil....... :-) Ken |
Ken Bessler wrote: -------------- LOL! Poor Cecil....... :-) Ken Lets see. Half the cost of food. Half the cost of just about everything, especially toilet paper! I would think it would be "not so poor Cecil"... 'Doc |
'Doc wrote:
Lets see. Half the cost of food. Half the cost of just about everything, especially toilet paper! Ain't it the truth? My XYL absolutely refused to use corn cobs. 'Course, she was not a Texan. -- 73, Cecil http://www.qsl.net/w5dxp -----= Posted via Newsfeeds.Com, Uncensored Usenet News =----- http://www.newsfeeds.com - The #1 Newsgroup Service in the World! -----== Over 100,000 Newsgroups - 19 Different Servers! =----- |
Gary V. Deutschmann, Sr. wrote:
Hi Jack I lived in an apartment for several years, NO ANTENNAS OF ANY KIND ALLOWED. Inside or outside. They provided a TV antenna hookup, lousy, but they provided it, so we couldn't even have rabbit ears. TTUL Gary Things like that (and not being allowed to put my bicycle on the deck) are why I won't move into a strata-complex. -- Donovan Hill |
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Gary V. Deutschmann, Sr. wrote: Hi Jack I lived in an apartment for several years, NO ANTENNAS OF ANY KIND ALLOWED. Inside or outside. They provided a TV antenna hookup, lousy, but they provided it, so we couldn't even have rabbit ears. TTUL Gary Things like that (and not being allowed to put my bicycle on the deck) are why I won't move into a strata-complex. -- Donovan Hill Hi Donovan I had no choice, it was company owned for temporary out of town workers. The temporary just happen to last close to 5 years of and on. What do you do when you move into a subdivision with no restrictions regarding antenna's and then later they add them? TTUL Gary |
Gary V. Deutschmann, Sr. wrote:
alt verbositized: Gary V. Deutschmann, Sr. wrote: Hi Jack I lived in an apartment for several years, NO ANTENNAS OF ANY KIND ALLOWED. Inside or outside. They provided a TV antenna hookup, lousy, but they provided it, so we couldn't even have rabbit ears. TTUL Gary Things like that (and not being allowed to put my bicycle on the deck) are why I won't move into a strata-complex. -- Donovan Hill Hi Donovan I had no choice, it was company owned for temporary out of town workers. The temporary just happen to last close to 5 years of and on. I suspected not. Stratas are excellent examples of ruling by committee. The most rediculous rules get implemented like not being able to put my bicycle on the deck, even though it was the only thing on the deck and I was on the non-exposed side of the building where noone could really see it. But I got fined $125 for the priviledge. What do you do when you move into a subdivision with no restrictions regarding antenna's and then later they add them? I won't move into a strata governed subdivision. Never. Never. Never. I don't need or want a bunch of people mettling in the way I keep my house and yard. It's, quite frankly, none of their business as long as what I do isn't a fire or other safety hazard. But I'm also an asshole. :) TTUL Gary -- Donovan Hill |
I wouldn't say you were that alt!
I have also lived where there were zero rules or laws about property or maintenance. That side of the fence is actually worse than having some moderate restrictions as to livestock, house color, outbuildings, etc. Lest you end up with a pig farmer upwind in a regal purple house with dayglow orange outbuildings constructed of old auto bodies. It is so easy to disguise or hide most ham antenna's, except towers and yagi's of course, that it is not usually a problem for most hams. I did have a 50 foot tower that was in place before the restrictions came into play and was thus grandfathered. I was a little irked when I changed my house color without prior permission, considering the color was in their approved list already, and they called me on it. There was no fine, and the color scheme was approved as suitable. They had left no provisions for the common three color blend of painting which is quite prevelent in our area. All of their approved schemes consisted of only two colors. TTUL Gary |
Gary wrote, (snip) Lest you end up with a pig farmer upwind in a regal purple house with dayglow orange outbuildings constructed of old auto bodies. What's wrong with that? 73, Tom Donaly, KA6RUH |
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Hi Jack,
Take a look at the Par Electronics website. They make an end fed dipole for bands 20m and up that might fit your needs. I've tried one as a sloper from my deck and it seems to work well on 20m. Good luck, Bill, W4WNT "j.beltz" wrote in message news:OBaDb.549665$Tr4.1495835@attbi_s03... i live in an single story first floor apartment, any ideas on an 80-10 meter antenna indoors only, thanks jack |
In article OBaDb.549665$Tr4.1495835@attbi_s03,
says... i live in an single story first floor apartment, any ideas on an 80-10 meter antenna indoors only, thanks jack There's a great book from the ARRL called, "Stealth Amateur Radio." Worth looking into for stealthy antenna installations. -- -- //Steve// Steve Silverwood, KB6OJS Fountain Valley, CA Email: |
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