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![]() EZNEC can be used to verify the relationship of conductor diameter to velocity factor. Once the conductor diameter exceeds a certain limit, the standing wave current at the ends of that conductor undergo a 180 degree phase change, indicating a longer length than resonance. ======================================== A cylinder has a flat circular end. Antenna wires and rods are cylinders. You should be reminded that the true length of the antenna is its straight length PLUS the radius of the flat circular end. ---- Reg. |
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Reg Edwards wrote:
A cylinder has a flat circular end. Antenna wires and rods are cylinders. You should be reminded that the true length of the antenna is its straight length PLUS the radius of the flat circular end. ---- Reg. What do you mean by "true" length? Roy Lewallen, W7EL |
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What do you mean by "true" length?
You know very well what I mean. Have you nothing else better to do with your time? |
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Reg Edwards wrote:
What do you mean by "true" length? You know very well what I mean. Have you nothing else better to do with your time? No, I don't know what you mean. And your response doesn't give me a great deal of confidence that you do, either. The reactance of an infinitely thin half wavelength dipole is 42.5 ohms, meaning that it isn't resonant. An infinitely thin dipole of length 0.496 wavelength, or about 1% shorter, is resonant. So my first question is whether the "true length" of an infinitesimally thin resonant dipole is 0.496 or 0.5 wavelength. (If 1% is too little to quibble about, why are we concerned about a length difference of a wire diameter?) If we increase the diameter of the antenna to 1/50 its length, the "true length" would then be 1.02 times the "true length" of the infinitesimally thin dipole. Yet we have to reduce the antenna length by nearly 7% to maintain resonance. So the "true length" doesn't have anything obvious to do with resonant length, nor does it provide a way to predict the resonant length based on wire diameter. If the meaning of "true length" is obvious, most other readers must know what it means. Would someone please be so kind as to explain to me what it means and how it's used? Roy Lewallen, W7EL |
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Indeed...
And--how is the resonance affected by using a tubular conductor that's open on the ends? What if the bottom end of a monopole fed against a ground plane (or the meeting ends of a doublet) is conical with perhaps a 30 degree included angle, out to the uniform diameter of the tube? Does it matter whether the upper end (outer ends) of the tube is open or has a disk shorting across it? (A wire-frame simulation suggests that a disk shorting the top has a small effect, but less than half its radius.) But certainly as Roy says, the effect on resonance is much greater than considering the length to be one diameter longer than the end-to-end length of the conductor. These aren't details that are likely to matter in a ham antenna installation, but they are interesting to me from a theoretical point of view. Cheers, Tom |
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