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Old December 23rd 03, 10:23 PM
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That is pure nonsense! The tuner is only an impedence matching device. It
has NO effect on SWR.

Have you ever run mobile? Did you tune for best SWR, or best field strength?
Did they occur at the same tuning points?

If you said SWR, back to Ch 19 and co-phased antennas.



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While a transmitter looking into an impedence mismatch can be a problem,
transforming the impedence the transmitter sees satisfies the

transmitter
and has no effect on antenna SWR. Everybody's happy, nothing changes as

far
as SWR.


Now you're changing things by adding a tuner... the net effect is that the
transmitter is now seeing a 1:1 swr. All we talked about was your

claiming
there was a preoccupation with SWR... if there was no problem with a high
swr, then there's no need for the tuner you just inserted into your
justification.

There is and always will be a need to present the transmitter with the
lowest possible SWR, regardless of if it is accomplished with a well-tuned
antenna or if that is not possible, inserting an antenna tuner between the
transmitter and antenna. So you can't get away from a "preoccupation"

with
SWR no matter what you like to think.

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"w4jle" W4JLE(remove this to wrote in message
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That is pure nonsense! The tuner is only an impedence matching device. It
has NO effect on SWR.


Of course not, for cripe's sakes would you guys stop with the looking for
any possible way to get around the 'intent' of the answer??? OF COURSE a
tuner is an impedence matching device. A tuner is used when there's no
other way to get an antenna matched to the frequency... when the antenna's
SWR is too high. Cripes, I'm sorry I ****ed you guys off for daring to say
adjusting for minimum SWR instead of the proper impedence. When I was in
the industry, I dare say no one that worked in the industry would have
batted an eye or even thought anything about it or even WORRIED about the
nano-better correctness of saying you were matching impedences instead of
getting the SWR down since that is the indication used by EVERY tuner I have
ever used to CORRECT THE IMPEDENCE... SWR. Does your antenna tuner indicate
SWR or impedence? I know mine indicates SWR. Pardon me all to hell.

Jerry

Have you ever run mobile? Did you tune for best SWR, or best field

strength?
Did they occur at the same tuning points?

If you said SWR, back to Ch 19 and co-phased antennas.



"Jerry Bransford" wrote in message
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"w4jle" W4JLE(remove this to wrote in message
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While a transmitter looking into an impedence mismatch can be a

problem,
transforming the impedence the transmitter sees satisfies the

transmitter
and has no effect on antenna SWR. Everybody's happy, nothing changes

as
far
as SWR.


Now you're changing things by adding a tuner... the net effect is that

the
transmitter is now seeing a 1:1 swr. All we talked about was your

claiming
there was a preoccupation with SWR... if there was no problem with a

high
swr, then there's no need for the tuner you just inserted into your
justification.

There is and always will be a need to present the transmitter with the
lowest possible SWR, regardless of if it is accomplished with a

well-tuned
antenna or if that is not possible, inserting an antenna tuner between

the
transmitter and antenna. So you can't get away from a "preoccupation"

with
SWR no matter what you like to think.

Jerry
--
Jerry Bransford
To email, remove 'me' from my email address
KC6TAY, PP-ASEL
See the Geezer Jeep at
http://members.cox.net/jerrypb/






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