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Old June 10th 06, 06:08 AM posted to rec.radio.amateur.antenna,rec.radio.amateur.misc,rec.radio.amateur.policy,rec.radio.swap
Sal M. Onella
 
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I don't really like it that CW is going away, but it WILL go away so far

as
necessity goes same way we don't commute to work in our '56 Fairlane. So

we
ADAPT to change instead of vainly clinging to the way WE think it should
stay forever and a day. When we are dead and gone, the world will be

vastly
different than we would've remembered it!


It isn't going away any more than tubes are going away or crystal-controlled
oscillators are going away. Those of us who wish to use them are free to do
so (and this freedom will probably continue for a long time).

Railroad fans admire steam locomotives, car buffs fawn over a Model T and
old men love their old wives. But in each case, the object of their
affection is, like Morse Code, past its peak of popularity and practicality.
Yes, learn Morse, use Morse, even love Morse -- but for crying out loud,
stop pretending it's the be-all-end-all of ham radio -- because it isn't.

Yes, yes, yes -- I know Morse Code will get through when other modes fail.
I've heard it a hundred times, so it must be true. However, this doleful
situation almost never presents itself. If this were a practical view of
the world, then we should all buy Army tanks, the better to navigate the
rubble of a natural disaster when all other means of transportation are
unavailable. (Not a perfect metaphor; work with me, OK?)

Although I have no objection to YOU using Morse Code, I personally resent it
because I can't learn it. I've wasted countless hours trying and it just
doesn't happen for me. Too bad, so sad. But there are rays of sunshine.
The FCC may just lift the requirement off my shoulders before another year
passes and in the meantime, maybe I'll rack up more club FD points on
UHF/VHF voice than the HF guys on all modes combined. I did it in both 2004
and 2005.

"Sal"
(KD6VKW)


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Old June 10th 06, 08:48 PM posted to rec.radio.amateur.antenna,rec.radio.amateur.misc,rec.radio.amateur.policy,rec.radio.swap
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Sal M. Onella wrote:
"Jerry" wrote in message
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snip

I don't really like it that CW is going away, but it WILL go away so far


as

necessity goes same way we don't commute to work in our '56 Fairlane. So


we

ADAPT to change instead of vainly clinging to the way WE think it should
stay forever and a day. When we are dead and gone, the world will be


vastly

different than we would've remembered it!



It isn't going away any more than tubes are going away or crystal-controlled
oscillators are going away. Those of us who wish to use them are free to do
so (and this freedom will probably continue for a long time).

Railroad fans admire steam locomotives, car buffs fawn over a Model T and
old men love their old wives. But in each case, the object of their
affection is, like Morse Code, past its peak of popularity and practicality.
Yes, learn Morse, use Morse, even love Morse -- but for crying out loud,
stop pretending it's the be-all-end-all of ham radio -- because it isn't.

Yes, yes, yes -- I know Morse Code will get through when other modes fail.
I've heard it a hundred times, so it must be true. However, this doleful
situation almost never presents itself. If this were a practical view of
the world, then we should all buy Army tanks, the better to navigate the
rubble of a natural disaster when all other means of transportation are
unavailable. (Not a perfect metaphor; work with me, OK?)

Although I have no objection to YOU using Morse Code, I personally resent it
because I can't learn it. I've wasted countless hours trying and it just
doesn't happen for me. Too bad, so sad. But there are rays of sunshine.
The FCC may just lift the requirement off my shoulders before another year
passes and in the meantime, maybe I'll rack up more club FD points on
UHF/VHF voice than the HF guys on all modes combined. I did it in both 2004
and 2005.

"Sal"
(KD6VKW)


too bad, so sad, indeed

You know, as long as there are effective band plans allowing for CW,
data, voice, etc., I really don't care what the FCC does. I learned
Morse code as a teenager so I really can't relate to the impossibility
of the task. Don't know how THIS old dog would do with a new trick.
All I can say is CW is very enjoyable to me and deserves a prominent
place within the bands.
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"jawod" wrote in message ...

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I really can't relate to the impossibility
of the task. Don't know how THIS old dog would do with a new trick.


I have a similar inability to relate, but it has to do with math. Most of
it I ever studied came easily to me. However, some poor souls cannot regard
simple real life situations in terms of math. For example, E-max for my
lovely bride is the checkbook. That's it. [How many square yards in a 9 x
12 foot carpet? Duh - what color is it?]

I learn new tricks every day. Morse Code isn't one of them.


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Sal M. Onella wrote:
"jawod" wrote in message ...

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I really can't relate to the impossibility
of the task. Don't know how THIS old dog would do with a new trick.


I have a similar inability to relate, but it has to do with math. Most of
it I ever studied came easily to me. However, some poor souls cannot regard
simple real life situations in terms of math. For example, E-max for my
lovely bride is the checkbook. That's it. [How many square yards in a 9 x
12 foot carpet? Duh - what color is it?]

I learn new tricks every day. Morse Code isn't one of them.



The real issue is probably that HF privileges are probably just not that
important to you. I have enough hearing problems that learning Morse was
darn hard. 60-70 db tinnitus, (est) and hearing holes in the higher
frequencies, and just can't hear for crap.

When I got my Tech license, a lot of people told me that "Morse code is
going away any day now, no need to learn that stuff".

I'm glad I didn't listen to them - I have had HF access for 6 years
now, and if learning Morse was the price I had to pay, then it was worth
it. YMMV

Since it may be a couple years more until the Morse code test is
eliminated (if even then) my decision is looking better all the time.

- 73 de Mike KB3EIA -
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Old June 13th 06, 05:09 AM posted to rec.radio.amateur.antenna,rec.radio.amateur.misc,rec.radio.swap
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"Michael Coslo" wrote in message
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Sal M. Onella wrote:


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I learn new tricks every day. Morse Code isn't one of them.



The real issue is probably that HF privileges are probably just not that
important to you.


snip

Thanks for explaining it so clearly. That just makes everything right.




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Sal M. Onella wrote:
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Sal M. Onella wrote:


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I learn new tricks every day. Morse Code isn't one of them.


The real issue is probably that HF privileges are probably just not that
important to you.


snip

Thanks for explaining it so clearly. That just makes everything right.




Hey, no prob.


I don't use Morse code, probably never will, unless I get into keyboard
Morse.

But I did want the HF access, so I learned Morse code. It was that
important to me.


As for what is right, do you know that there are thousands, maybe
millions of people who can't pass the writtens? How is it right that we
have any testing at all when we discriminate against them?


It isn't an insult to anyone to say that HF access isn't important
enough to them that they will take the time and effort to learn Morse
code. Ham radio doesn't have to be important to anyone - it's a hobby.


- 73 de Mike KB3EIA -
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Michael Coslo wrote:
Sal M. Onella wrote:
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As for what is right, do you know that there are thousands, maybe
millions of people who can't pass the writtens? How is it right that we
have any testing at all when we discriminate against them?


I am ceertainly willing to discuss non test based quilifaction frot he
ARS but that is a non no to even discuss


It isn't an insult to anyone to say that HF access isn't important
enough to them that they will take the time and effort to learn Morse
code. Ham radio doesn't have to be important to anyone - it's a hobby.


yes it is if the person says it is one right we ALL have mike is to
decide for ourselves what is insulting to US

It is an insult to mandate testing in 19th century tech in a service
using PUBLICLY own property and claiming to have anything to do with
techinal admavncement, esp if I say it is since I am more important
than the regs at least on some elvels I am a man not a mindless sheep



- 73 de Mike KB3EIA -


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Old June 15th 06, 05:43 AM posted to rec.radio.amateur.antenna,rec.radio.amateur.misc,rec.radio.swap
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"Michael Coslo" wrote in message
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Sal M. Onella wrote:
"Michael Coslo" wrote in message
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Sal M. Onella wrote:


snip
I learn new tricks every day. Morse Code isn't one of them.

The real issue is probably that HF privileges are probably just not

that
important to you.


snip

Thanks for explaining it so clearly. That just makes everything right.




Hey, no prob.



I WAS BEING SARCASTIC AND I THINK IT WENT RIGHT OVER YOUR HEAD


It isn't an insult to anyone to say that HF access isn't important
enough to them that they will take the time and effort to learn Morse
code.


YES IT IS. I'VE WASTED HUNDREDS OF HOURS TRYING TO LEARN MORSE CODE AND I
CAN'T DO IT. YOU'VE TRIVIALIZED ALL MY ANGER AND FRUSTRATION. YOU
DISMISSED FIFTEEN YEARS OF FRUITLESS EFFORT IN TWO HURTFUL SENTENCES.
YOU'RE NO HELP.


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