LinkBack Thread Tools Search this Thread Display Modes
Prev Previous Post   Next Post Next
  #22   Report Post  
Old July 24th 06, 08:31 PM posted to rec.radio.amateur.antenna
external usenet poster
 
First recorded activity by RadioBanter: Jul 2006
Posts: 1,614
Default Is It double bazooka less noisy?

Jim Kelley wrote:
Cecil Moore wrote:
The size of the charge Vs the dielectric determines how
much of the charge actually reaches the conductor.


Perhaps you mean the amount of charge Vs. the dielectric determine the
voltage.


size = amount = magnitude = amplitude. It is hard to visualize
how a charge could make it to the conductor without the migration
of a quantum particle.

The point with which Tom seemed to take issue was the implication
that an antenna with low DC resistance would have lower precipitation
static noise. I also disagree with that notion.


Both of you misunderstood the definition of "noise" that I was
using. With the feedline completely disconnected from the
transceiver, arcing occurred and that aural noise woke me up at
night. It was aural noise from the arcing caused by precipitation
static charge tansfer that woke me up and a low DC resistance
eliminated it.

Precipitation
static is the noise which is apparent when a relatively high flux of
ions impinges upon an antenna. Low DC impedance antennas won't
accumulate large amounts of charge or generate a static discharge, but
they are nevertheless sensitive to the static noise just as any other
antenna would be. In other words, you and Tom W8JI are both right - you
just don't know why. ;-)


When a charge hits a closed loop, there are two paths it can take
to equalize the charge around the loop. Only one of those paths
is through the receiver and that is a higher impedance path than
the other path. When a single-wire dipole needs to equalize the
charges between the dipole elements, there is only one path available
- through the receiver which often has a capacitor in series and thus
blocks DC charge equalization. This is, of course, not the only reason
that a loop is quieter than a single-wire dipole but is simply one of
the reasons.

Incidentally, "Quietflex" antenna wire, with its 1000v insulation
reduced the problem to an acceptable level in the Arizona desert.
I still use that wire for my dipoles.
--
73, Cecil http://www.qsl.net/w5dxp
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search
Display Modes

Posting Rules

Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are On


Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Double Bazooka? Ken Bessler Antenna 28 April 11th 05 06:50 PM
Double Bazooka question Antenna 7 March 20th 05 10:19 PM
FS: Connectors, Antennas, Meters, Mounts, etc. Ben Antenna 0 January 6th 04 12:18 AM
FS: Connectors/Adapters/Meters/Etc. Ben Equipment 0 January 1st 04 02:55 PM
FS: Connectors/Adapters/Meters/Etc. Ben Equipment 0 January 1st 04 02:55 PM


All times are GMT +1. The time now is 12:40 PM.

Powered by vBulletin® Copyright ©2000 - 2025, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
Copyright ©2004-2025 RadioBanter.
The comments are property of their posters.
 

About Us

"It's about Radio"

 

Copyright © 2017