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Henry Kolesnik February 16th 07 03:42 PM

Hammarlund PRO-310 ??
 
I just got one and the medallion on the front is missing. Anyone have a
spare or know where I can get one or how to make one. The dial cords
need to be restrung and there's no diagram in the manual so I'd like to
know if anyone has the info in their archives. The cord is quite hard
and heavier than anything I've seen before, about 0.080 inch , or 2 mm
in diameter pretty close to No. 12 wire. Where would I get some?
tnx

--

73
Hank WD5JFR


Richard Knoppow February 16th 07 06:02 PM

Hammarlund PRO-310 ??
 

"Henry Kolesnik" wrote in
message
. net...
I just got one and the medallion on the front is missing.
Anyone have a spare or know where I can get one or how to
make one. The dial cords need to be restrung and there's
no diagram in the manual so I'd like to know if anyone has
the info in their archives. The cord is quite hard and
heavier than anything I've seen before, about 0.080 inch ,
or 2 mm in diameter pretty close to No. 12 wire. Where
would I get some?
tnx

--

73
Hank WD5JFR

I ran across a web site detailing the restoration of the
Pro-310. I think it was N5QT but I can't get into that site.
According to this site these are particularly difficult
receivers to work on. This fellow has had to have parts made
for it and discusses the dial string problem. If you can get
in touch with him he may have a source for the medallion and
other parts.
I remember seeing and playing with a PRO-310 at Henry
Radio when they were brand new.


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Los Angeles, CA, USA





[email protected] February 16th 07 07:45 PM

Hammarlund PRO-310 ??
 
On Feb 16, 7:42 am, "Henry Kolesnik"
wrote:
I just got one and the medallion on the front is missing. Anyone have a
spare or know where I can get one or how to make one. The dial cords
need to be restrung and there's no diagram in the manual so I'd like to
know if anyone has the info in their archives. The cord is quite hard
and heavier than anything I've seen before, about 0.080 inch , or 2 mm
in diameter pretty close to No. 12 wire. Where would I get some?
tnx

--

73
Hank WD5JFR


Was this the $900 one on Ebay? Other than the dial cord problem, does
it seem to work ok?

Paul, KD7HB


Henry Kolesnik February 16th 07 09:01 PM

Hammarlund PRO-310 ??
 
Nope I picked up at a hamfest....
I haven't Variaced it yet till it gets aclimatized..

" wrote in message
oups.com...
On Feb 16, 7:42 am, "Henry Kolesnik"
wrote:
I just got one and the medallion on the front is missing. Anyone
have a
spare or know where I can get one or how to make one. The dial cords
need to be restrung and there's no diagram in the manual so I'd like
to
know if anyone has the info in their archives. The cord is quite
hard
and heavier than anything I've seen before, about 0.080 inch , or 2
mm
in diameter pretty close to No. 12 wire. Where would I get some?
tnx

--

73
Hank WD5JFR


Was this the $900 one on Ebay? Other than the dial cord problem, does
it seem to work ok?

Paul, KD7HB



COLIN LAMB February 17th 07 12:32 AM

Hammarlund PRO-310 ??
 
The PRO-310 is a gorgeous receiver. Unfortunately, it has a case built
inside a case and is very difficult to work on. On the broadcast band, it
is single conversion, which presents a problem for images.

There were two different color models and they were too expensive to
manufacture. They are certainly collector's items.

Colin K7FM



Richard Knoppow February 17th 07 04:44 AM

Hammarlund PRO-310 ??
 

"COLIN LAMB" wrote in message
nk.net...
The PRO-310 is a gorgeous receiver. Unfortunately, it has
a case built inside a case and is very difficult to work
on. On the broadcast band, it is single conversion, which
presents a problem for images.

There were two different color models and they were too
expensive to manufacture. They are certainly collector's
items.

Colin K7FM

Well, lots of receivers are single conversion on the
broadcast band and do not have image problems. It seems to
me that the PRO-310 did have some problems, something to do
with the gain structure I think. It got fixed but they were
simply too expensive to compete at the time. For about the
same price one could buy a 75A4, which is arguably a better
ham receiver and could buy RX such as the GPR-90 for less
money.
It would be interesting to know the story behind the
PRO-310, it was beautiful, worked well, but just missed the
mark.


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Henry Kolesnik February 17th 07 08:46 PM

Hammarlund PRO-310 ??
 
It missed the mark in its day but today they're scarce and quite
collectible. I recall reading the review back in 56 when I was in high
school and have been after one ever since. this is the second one I've
ever seen. Kinda like if there was only one dandelion everyone would
like to have in their lawn.

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73
Hank WD5JFR

"Richard Knoppow" wrote in message
.. .

"COLIN LAMB" wrote in message
nk.net...
The PRO-310 is a gorgeous receiver. Unfortunately, it has a case
built inside a case and is very difficult to work on. On the
broadcast band, it is single conversion, which presents a problem for
images.

There were two different color models and they were too expensive to
manufacture. They are certainly collector's items.

Colin K7FM

Well, lots of receivers are single conversion on the broadcast band
and do not have image problems. It seems to me that the PRO-310 did
have some problems, something to do with the gain structure I think.
It got fixed but they were simply too expensive to compete at the
time. For about the same price one could buy a 75A4, which is arguably
a better ham receiver and could buy RX such as the GPR-90 for less
money.
It would be interesting to know the story behind the PRO-310, it was
beautiful, worked well, but just missed the mark.


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Los Angeles, CA, USA



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COLIN LAMB February 17th 07 11:57 PM

Hammarlund PRO-310 ??
 
"Well, lots of receivers are single conversion on the
broadcast band and do not have image problems."

Well, that is true, but what I left out was that the if is 50 kHz. It is
the only radio to my knowledge that runs 50 kHz ifs with single conversion.

The bandspread tuning is quite unique. There was supposed to be a run of
1,000 - but I bet less than 100 are still around. Maybe the other 900 are
still in a warehouse and will show up on the surplus market one of these
days - ha.

I have one.

Colin K7FM



Paul P February 18th 07 04:21 AM

Hammarlund PRO-310 ??
 
Gets,

How about a picture of you personal units on the binaries?

And Henry Please keep us posted either RAR+P or on the boatanchors
thread/group of your choice.

Paul.



Richard Knoppow February 18th 07 05:16 AM

Hammarlund PRO-310 ??
 

"COLIN LAMB" wrote in message
ink.net...
"Well, lots of receivers are single conversion on the
broadcast band and do not have image problems."

Well, that is true, but what I left out was that the if is
50 kHz. It is the only radio to my knowledge that runs 50
kHz ifs with single conversion.

The bandspread tuning is quite unique. There was supposed
to be a run of 1,000 - but I bet less than 100 are still
around. Maybe the other 900 are still in a warehouse and
will show up on the surplus market one of these days - ha.

I have one.

Colin K7FM

50Khz, I will have to look at the schematics. I knew
there was a low frequency IF involved in order to get sharp
selectivity using conventional components. 50khz _would_ be
likely to have problems with images.


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COLIN LAMB February 18th 07 03:18 PM

Hammarlund PRO-310 ??
 
It is dual conversion at some point, but not the lowest band.

Colin K7FM



Henry Kolesnik February 18th 07 03:33 PM

Hammarlund PRO-310 ??
 
It's single conversion on the two lower bands below 2.2 Mc, IF is 52Kc
on those single conversion and 1802 Kc with double conversion on the 4
upper covering up to 35.53 Mc. Hey an expensive Q5er!

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73
Hank WD5JFR

"COLIN LAMB" wrote in message
ink.net...
It is dual conversion at some point, but not the lowest band.

Colin K7FM



Henry Kolesnik February 18th 07 04:06 PM

Hammarlund PRO-310 ??
 
I just took some shots of the beast with I'm guessing 35 years of dust
because I found a page from ham radio magazine, a Robot ad with ham
frequency allocations for Nov 1972. The ad has about the same amount of
dust on it as the radio. The 65 lb beast looks complete and original
except no medallion on the front I need to find one or get one made.
Several pics going up on the binaries.

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73
Hank WD5JFR
"Paul P" wrote in message
news:AvQBh.737$h8.472@trnddc05...
Gets,

How about a picture of you personal units on the binaries?

And Henry Please keep us posted either RAR+P or on the boatanchors
thread/group of your choice.

Paul.



COLIN LAMB February 18th 07 06:54 PM

Hammarlund PRO-310 ??
 
W8ZR has a Pro -310 on his website. No medalion.

He mentions that the cabinet was wrinkle with black with gold trim or grey
with silver trim. Somewhere, I think I read that at least came out of the
factory in baby blue but maybe that was actually grey that had changed color
slightly or viewed under special lighting.

Note on the radio shown at W8ZR, that there is no medalion. It is possible
that one of the runs did not have it.

Mine does have a medalion, although it is some distance away right now. It
is the black and gold version. I do have the manual with a photo of the
medalion that could be used to recreate one. Someone with a bit of time and
artistic ability should have no problem getting something that is close
enough.

Let me know if you would like me to scan it. The copy will not be
particularly good, but should get you in the ball park.

73, Colin K7FM



Richard Knoppow February 19th 07 03:06 AM

Hammarlund PRO-310 ??
 

"Henry Kolesnik" wrote in
message
et...
It's single conversion on the two lower bands below 2.2
Mc, IF is 52Kc on those single conversion and 1802 Kc
with double conversion on the 4 upper covering up to 35.53
Mc. Hey an expensive Q5er!

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73
Hank WD5JFR

"COLIN LAMB" wrote in message
ink.net...
It is dual conversion at some point, but not the lowest
band.

Colin K7FM


It seems to me that Hallicrafters did the same thing with
a couple of their receivers. BTW, I _thought_ there was a
PRO-310 handbook on the web and that I had it. Evidently its
not so. I found some advertising and nothing more.


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Richard Knoppow February 19th 07 03:08 AM

Hammarlund PRO-310 ??
 

"Henry Kolesnik" wrote in
message
et...
I just took some shots of the beast with I'm guessing 35
years of dust because I found a page from ham radio
magazine, a Robot ad with ham frequency allocations for Nov
1972. The ad has about the same amount of dust on it as
the radio. The 65 lb beast looks complete and original
except no medallion on the front I need to find one or get
one made. Several pics going up on the binaries.

--

73
Hank WD5JFR


One site I looked at while trying to find out more
about this beast stated the medallion was attached
originally with double-stick tape! No wonder its missing.


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dxAce February 19th 07 07:34 PM

Hammarlund PRO-310 ??
 


Richard Knoppow wrote:

"Henry Kolesnik" wrote in
message
et...
I just took some shots of the beast with I'm guessing 35
years of dust because I found a page from ham radio
magazine, a Robot ad with ham frequency allocations for Nov
1972. The ad has about the same amount of dust on it as
the radio. The 65 lb beast looks complete and original
except no medallion on the front I need to find one or get
one made. Several pics going up on the binaries.

--

73
Hank WD5JFR


One site I looked at while trying to find out more
about this beast stated the medallion was attached
originally with double-stick tape! No wonder its missing.


I think Hammarlund did that with a bunch of its models.

dxAce
Michigan
USA



Richard Knoppow February 19th 07 10:54 PM

Hammarlund PRO-310 ??
 

"dxAce" wrote in message
...


Richard Knoppow wrote:

"Henry Kolesnik" wrote in
message
et...
I just took some shots of the beast with I'm guessing 35
years of dust because I found a page from ham radio
magazine, a Robot ad with ham frequency allocations for
Nov
1972. The ad has about the same amount of dust on it as
the radio. The 65 lb beast looks complete and original
except no medallion on the front I need to find one or
get
one made. Several pics going up on the binaries.

--

73
Hank WD5JFR


One site I looked at while trying to find out more
about this beast stated the medallion was attached
originally with double-stick tape! No wonder its missing.


I think Hammarlund did that with a bunch of its models.

dxAce
Michigan
USA


I think the original poster said this RX had been in
storage for many years. Perhaps it would be worth searching
the area where it was stored for the missing medallion.


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Los Angeles, CA, USA




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David Thompson February 20th 07 03:37 AM

Hammarlund PRO-310 ??
 
I have an interview on tape with Frank Lester W4AMJ (then W2AMJ) who was Mr.
Hammarlund from 1955 to 1970. When he was hired by Lloyd Hammarlund (son
of the founder) he found the Pro-310 did not come close to specs. He and
the Engineers spend quite a bit on bring it "close" to apecs.

The reason you don't see many is that the turret costs $85 per unit. That
is what there is the box within a box. Hopefully the band switch cable has
only fallen off. Otherwise its a nice box outside and a real dud inside.
Lloyd put a stop to production after only a few hundred units!

Frank found that none of the Engineers were hams. Since Lloyd cut off the
funds Frank went to work to get some of the Engineers to be hams. He went
to work on what saved Hammarlund (outside of several commercial ventures)
and that was the HC-10/SPC-10 SSB/CW converter. Frank wanted to use crystal
or mechanical filters but Lloyd asked for alternatives (they were
cheap)which is the principle reason for the 60 kcs IF's found in the HQ-170,
HQ-180, and the HC-10. Lloyd kept the old SP-600 series alive by selling
the SPC-10 at several times the HC-10 price to the thousands of users.

But never fear, the idea behind the Pro-310 stayed alive in the guise of the
HQ-215.

Hope the Pro-310 turns out to be a great piece of History. Frank could
never say why the H emblem was missing from most of the units.

73 Dave K4JRB




COLIN LAMB February 20th 07 05:04 AM

Hammarlund PRO-310 ??
 
One site I looked at while trying to find out more
about this beast stated the medallion was attached
originally with double-stick tape! No wonder its missing.



Yes. My medalion has not been reinstalled because I have not repainted it -
but it was double sided tape - and not very good. I almost threw mine out
by mistake because I did not find it in the packing.

73, Colin



Henry Kolesnik February 21st 07 02:43 AM

Hammarlund PRO-310 ??
 
Dave
Thanks for the history. The turret looks very much like a bigger copy
of the TV tuner turrets from the late 40s and early 50s. It's a good
idea but too expensive. I guess the emblem was glued with some pretty
sorry adhesive as I can't see any residue from where it should have
been. If it was poor adhesive and they were falling off there should
be a spare or two around. Wish I could find one.


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73
Hank WD5JFR
"David Thompson" wrote in message
nk.net...
I have an interview on tape with Frank Lester W4AMJ (then W2AMJ) who
was Mr.
Hammarlund from 1955 to 1970. When he was hired by Lloyd Hammarlund
(son
of the founder) he found the Pro-310 did not come close to specs. He
and
the Engineers spend quite a bit on bring it "close" to apecs.

The reason you don't see many is that the turret costs $85 per unit.
That
is what there is the box within a box. Hopefully the band switch
cable has
only fallen off. Otherwise its a nice box outside and a real dud
inside.
Lloyd put a stop to production after only a few hundred units!

Frank found that none of the Engineers were hams. Since Lloyd cut off
the
funds Frank went to work to get some of the Engineers to be hams. He
went
to work on what saved Hammarlund (outside of several commercial
ventures)
and that was the HC-10/SPC-10 SSB/CW converter. Frank wanted to use
crystal
or mechanical filters but Lloyd asked for alternatives (they were
cheap)which is the principle reason for the 60 kcs IF's found in the
HQ-170,
HQ-180, and the HC-10. Lloyd kept the old SP-600 series alive by
selling
the SPC-10 at several times the HC-10 price to the thousands of users.

But never fear, the idea behind the Pro-310 stayed alive in the guise
of the
HQ-215.

Hope the Pro-310 turns out to be a great piece of History. Frank
could
never say why the H emblem was missing from most of the units.

73 Dave K4JRB






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