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On Jul 1, 9:57 pm, Engineer wrote:
I could use some help with a BC-348-R "boatanchor". Can anyone point me towards a schematic for the "R"? I think I have the entire "R" manual in electronic format. Send me an email and I will reply with the manual as an attachment if I have it. Some comments on the BC-348R: 1) If yours is original, it probably still has Those Dern Black Plastic Capacitors. These are small units that look like micas but are actually paper, and they are notoriously unreliable. They fail open, shorted, and every way you can imagine. They are 0.01 uF 400 volts or so, and should all be replaced. Besides being annoying, some are in parts of the circuit where a failure takes several other parts with it. Replace them all and save yourself a lot of cussing. Yes there are over two dozen of them - I found them all. The 348 design is such that you can have several iffy caps and the set will still work, sort of. 2) Note that the B- in the BC-348R is *NOT* grounded. It floats some volts negative of ground. This is done because the 6K6GT output stage also functions as a shunt regulator. Do NOT try to power the receiver with B- grounded, because the last stage will draw excessive current and possibly cook the audio output transformer. The audio/regulator stage design is explained in the manual, and is quite ingenious. You can mod the set to eliminate the feature, but I always found it easier to use a power supply with ungrounded B- 3) The receiver isn't meant to drive a speaker. Not enough audio gain, and pushing the set to do so makes it sound awful IMHO. There are three options: A) Use only headphones, as was intended. You have a choice of 300-600 ohms or 2000-4000 ohms by changing transformer taps B) Modify the audio chain to a more-conventional design C) Use an external audio amp, with an appropriate resistor load to avoid frying the output transformer. 4) The dynamotor probably needs the bearings repacked. 60 year old grease isn't much of a lubricant! 5) Probably your best option is to build an external AC supply. The heaters will run on AC just fine - 24 volts at 0.7 amps (Note that the 6K6GT draws 0.4 amps for the heater, while all the rest of the tubes draw 0.3 amps). The B+ should not exceed 220 volts, and the set will work fine at 190-200 volts. With a little care, you may be able to avoid wiring changes in the rx itself by making up a dummy chassis to replace the dynamotor, and powering the rx through the rear plug, with the AC mains switch on the power supply. 6) If the receiver design seems a bit odd, remember that it was meant to be used in unpressurized planes like the B-24, under extremes of heat, cold, shock and vibration. If you need any tubes for it, let me know. I had three BC-348Rs at one time, but sold them all more than a decade ago in a moment of extreme weakness. (sniffs, looks away, rubs speck of nonexistent dust from eye, sighs.....) 73 de Jim, N2EY |
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On Jul 3, 11:29 am, wrote:
On Jul 1, 9:57 pm, Engineer wrote: I could use some help with a BC-348-R "boatanchor". Can anyone point me towards a schematic for the "R"? Thanks for detailed reply. See below in your text after ******************* I think I have the entire "R" manual in electronic format. Send me an email and I will reply with the manual as an attachment if I have it. ****************** Thanks, I now have one but I'd still like a look at yours. Some comments on the BC-348R: 1) If yours is original, it probably still has Those Dern Black Plastic Capacitors. These are small units that look like micas but are actually paper, and they are notoriously unreliable. They fail open, shorted, and every way you can imagine. They are 0.01 uF 400 volts or so, and should all be replaced. Besides being annoying, some are in parts of the circuit where a failure takes several other parts with it. Replace them all and save yourself a lot of cussing. Yes there are over two dozen of them - I found them all. ************** I did not know that, I thought they were micas! Will take a look and decide what to do. The 348 design is such that you can have several iffy caps and the set will still work, sort of. ************* Ah, ha. Well, mine is working but I don't yet know how well. 2) Note that the B- in the BC-348R is *NOT* grounded. It floats some volts negative of ground. This is done because the 6K6GT output stage also functions as a shunt regulator. Do NOT try to power the receiver with B- grounded, because the last stage will draw excessive current and possibly cook the audio output transformer. *************** Yes, I found this out early on when I saw that the 6K6 cathode went to ground. Smelled a rat and checked it out! The 6K6 stays properly biased with my ext. P/S. The audio/regulator stage design is explained in the manual, and is quite ingenious. You can mod the set to eliminate the feature, but I always found it easier to use a power supply with ungrounded B- ************** Me too, P/S is isolated. I have it running with external P/S B- going to the wire that came off the dynamotor negative and the B+ going to the wire that came off the dynamotor B+, and DC to the heater with "76-A"still in. 6K6 bias about 14 VDC. 3) The receiver isn't meant to drive a speaker. Not enough audio gain, and pushing the set to do so makes it sound awful IMHO. ************** I'm using a matching transformer from 300 ohms (LO) to 8 ohm speaker. I plan to install a proper OPT to match the 6K6 to 8 ohms but leaving the original there for posterity. There are three options: A) Use only headphones, as was intended. You have a choice of 300-600 ohms or 2000-4000 ohms by changing transformer taps B) Modify the audio chain to a more-conventional design *************** See above. C) Use an external audio amp, with an appropriate resistor load to avoid frying the output transformer. ************** Not a bad idea... but needs etra bits! 4) The dynamotor probably needs the bearings repacked. 60 year old grease isn't much of a lubricant! ************* Not used now but I may repack bearings to be sure 5) Probably your best option is to build an external AC supply. The heaters will run on AC just fine - 24 volts at 0.7 amps (Note that the 6K6GT draws 0.4 amps for the heater, while all the rest of the tubes draw 0.3 amps). The B+ should not exceed 220 volts, and the set will work fine at 190-200 volts. ************** That's the next step. My B+ is 220 VDC. With a little care, you may be able to avoid wiring changes in the rx itself by making up a dummy chassis to replace the dynamotor, and powering the rx through the rear plug, with the AC mains switch on the power supply. ************** I want to leave the dynamotor in the chassis "as is" and have an external AC heater supply. 6) If the receiver design seems a bit odd, remember that it was meant to be used in unpressurized planes like the B-24, under extremes of heat, cold, shock and vibration. If you need any tubes for it, let me know. I had three BC-348Rs at one time, but sold them all more than a decade ago in a moment of extreme weakness. (sniffs, looks away, rubs speck of nonexistent dust from eye, sighs.....) ************** Thanks but, amazingly, all tubes test "good" to "good plus" 73 de Jim, N2EY *************** Cheers, Roger. ************ PS: I'll email you for the manual. |
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Note to all:
The complete manual for the BC-348R can be downloaded from the BAMA mirror site: http://bama.edebris.com/manuals/military-kg7bz/bc348/ Scroll down and click on: TO 12R2-3BC-112.pdf (Maintenance manual for BC-224-F, K, BC-348-H, K, L, R. rev. 11 February 1955) This is a 10 MB PDF, so it will take a little time. Lots of other manuals there, too. http://bama.edebris.com On Jul 3, 10:16?pm, Engineer wrote: On Jul 3, 11:29 am, wrote: On Jul 1, 9:57 pm, Engineer wrote: Those Dern Black Plastic Capacitors. These are small units that look like micas but are actually paper, and they are notoriously unreliable. ************** I did not know that, I thought they were micas! Me too. They are reliably unreliable. That doesn't mean the ones in yours will fail, it just means they have a bad reputation. *************** Yes, I found this out early on when I saw that the 6K6 cathode went to ground. Smelled a rat and checked it out! The 6K6 stays properly biased with my ext. P/S. You figured it out a lot quicker than I did! ? 3) The receiver isn't meant to drive a speaker. Not enough audio gain, and pushing the set to do so makes it sound awful IMHO. ************** I'm using a matching transformer from 300 ohms (LO) to 8 ohm speaker. I plan to install a proper OPT to match the 6K6 to 8 ohms but leaving the original there for posterity. The trick is that the 6K6GT isn't biased the way it would be to deliver a couple of watts as a speaker driver. Sure it will work, but it will be running flat out. There are three options: A) Use only headphones, as was intended. You have a choice of 300-600 ohms or 2000-4000 ohms by changing transformer taps B) Modify the audio chain to a more-conventional design *************** See above. C) Use an external audio amp, with an appropriate resistor load to avoid frying the output transformer. ************** Not a bad idea... but needs etra bits! Put them in the PS unit and put the whole thing in a speaker cabinet. With a little care, you may be able to avoid wiring changes in the rx itself by making up a dummy chassis to replace the dynamotor, and powering the rx through the rear plug, with the AC mains switch on the power supply. ************** I want to leave the dynamotor in the chassis "as is" and have an external AC heater supply. The problem with that is the dynamotor, if not running, will present a near-short circuit to the power supply. And the 24 volt heater line is connected to the dynamotor input, so it will be shorted too. By simply removing the dynamotor assembly and putting in a dummy chassis so the loose wires don't short, you can retain the rx wiring and run from an external supply. Then if you ever want to drop in the dynamotor and run from 24 volts, you can do that too. ************** Thanks but, amazingly, all tubes test "good" to "good plus" Not amazing, really, If the set wasn't used much, the tubes could be almost new. ************ PS: I'll email you for the manual. I can send as an email attachment but it's 10 MB. You can also download it from the above site. 73 de Jim, N2EY |
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On Jul 4, 11:20 am, wrote:
Note to all: (snip) ************** I'm using a matching transformer from 300 ohms (LO) to 8 ohm speaker. I plan to install a proper OPT to match the 6K6 to 8 ohms but leaving the original there for posterity. The trick is that the 6K6GT isn't biased the way it would be to deliver a couple of watts as a speaker driver. Sure it will work, but it will be running flat out. **************** I'll check that and, if needed, rewire it. I noticed the screen voltage exceeded the plate voltage by quite a bit. A 6K6 o/p stage is dead easy to brew up. (snip)] The problem with that is the dynamotor, if not running, will present a near-short circuit to the power supply. And the 24 volt heater line is connected to the dynamotor input, so it will be shorted too. ************** No, it is now totally disconnected By simply removing the dynamotor assembly and putting in a dummy chassis so the loose wires don't short, you can retain the rx wiring and run from an external supply. Then if you ever want to drop in the dynamotor and run from 24 volts, you can do that too. ************* B+ P/S is a separate Heathkit reg. unit and I don't want to lose the dynamotor over the next 50 years! So. I'll just leave it in the chassis for the next collector... (snip) Cheers, Roger |
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On Jul 4, 1:10 pm, Engineer wrote:
On Jul 4, 11:20 am, wrote: Note to all: (snip) ************** I'm using a matching transformer from 300 ohms (LO) to 8 ohm speaker. I plan to install a proper OPT to match the 6K6 to 8 ohms but leaving the original there for posterity. The trick is that the 6K6GT isn't biased the way it would be to deliver a couple of watts as a speaker driver. Sure it will work, but it will be running flat out. **************** I'll check that and, if needed, rewire it. I noticed the screen voltage exceeded the plate voltage by quite a bit. A 6K6 o/p stage is dead easy to brew up. (snip)] The problem with that is the dynamotor, if not running, will present a near-short circuit to the power supply. And the 24 volt heater line is connected to the dynamotor input, so it will be shorted too. ************** No, it is now totally disconnected By simply removing the dynamotor assembly and putting in a dummy chassis so the loose wires don't short, you can retain the rx wiring and run from an external supply. Then if you ever want to drop in the dynamotor and run from 24 volts, you can do that too. ************* B+ P/S is a separate Heathkit reg. unit and I don't want to lose the dynamotor over the next 50 years! So. I'll just leave it in the chassis for the next collector... (snip) Cheers, Roger PS Heaters now powered by a 24 volt HVAC control transformer - connected between chassis and pin 2 of the 1st IF tube, VT-86/ 6K7 (bypasses resistor "76-A".) BTW, these 24 volt HVAC control transformers are easy to find as scrap units (look in old house demolition bins.) I had two in my junk box - one 12 VA (not enough) and one 40 VA (too big but OK, so I used it.) You need 17 VA minimum. B+ remains from a separate vintage Heathkit regulated tube supply - one of 3 such items here, so I can dedicate one to the BC348. My big 28 VDC supply is now surplus! Next things to do: 1. Install a terminal block and a 4 conductor power cord to the external P/S's (DC and AC) 2. Check all those old paper caps I was warned about... 3. Check the alignment, tweak as needed (the manuals have full instructions for all those 1940's radio techs - RIP, most of them!) Support the military! (Who is watching "Dogfight" on Discovery channel?) Cheers, Roger |
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