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Wake up!!! Can't you stop all these bull**** MI5 persecution posts????
They're absolutely clogging up all the rec.radio listings!!!!! Please do your job! |
Where's the moderator???????
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Where's the moderator???????
This is a usenet group. There is no moderator.
wrote: Wake up!!! Can't you stop all these bull**** MI5 persecution posts???? They're absolutely clogging up all the rec.radio listings!!!!! Please do your job! |
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wrote in message ... Wake up!!! Can't you stop all these bull**** MI5 persecution posts???? They're absolutely clogging up all the rec.radio listings!!!!! Please do your job! Are you as stupid as you sound? |
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Bert Hyman wrote:
There's no moderator; this isn't a moderated newsgroup. If you used a real newsreader and a real news service instead of googlegroups, you'd be able to filter the posts if your news provider wasn't already doing it. Seems to be hard to do with Mozilla/Firefox/Seamonkey. Because he is rotating the spaces, and punctuation, you can't filter on the subject or sender field. Mozilla/Firefox/Seamonkey only allow filtering on the subject, and sender fields. The paranoid moron, of course, knows this. He wants to be sure our filters don't deny him his audience. So, I have been forwarding everything he posts to abuse at his newsgroup sender. He should be needing some new isp accounts shortly. -Chuck |
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Wake up!!! Can't you stop all these bull**** MI5 persecution posts???? They're absolutely clogging up all the rec.radio listings!!!!! Please do your job! Sorry, this is Usenet. There is no moderator, just 70,000 news servers around the world, each with their own admin staff. You have the misfortune of being on Google, which is one of the more incompetently-run of those 70,000 news servers, and which does not seem to have anybody dealing with the spam problems. Consequently, you are seeing huge amounts of trash that people who are on compently-run news servers do not see. Get off of google and onto a legitimate news service not run by drooling morons and you will not only not see all of this trash, but you also will have a user interface that is much easier to use and not clumsy as hell. --scott -- "C'est un Nagra. C'est suisse, et tres, tres precis." |
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Chuck Harris wrote:
Seems to be hard to do with Mozilla/Firefox/Seamonkey. Because he is rotating the spaces, and punctuation, you can't filter on the subject or sender field. Mozilla/Firefox/Seamonkey only allow filtering on the subject, and sender fields. You shouldn't have to be doing it, your ISP should be running cleanfeed and have a news admin on staff who deals with this stuff. Call up Erols and ask if Afterburner or Ereshkigal are still working there. So, I have been forwarding everything he posts to abuse at his newsgroup sender. He should be needing some new isp accounts shortly. He cycles through them on a regular basis. He loses accounts, then just gets new ones. The solution is to have your news admin deal with it on the server. If your news admin is running "cleanfeed" it should deal with it automatically because it has a feature to pattern match repeated posts to multiple groups. --scott -- "C'est un Nagra. C'est suisse, et tres, tres precis." |
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Scott Dorsey wrote:
Chuck Harris wrote: Seems to be hard to do with Mozilla/Firefox/Seamonkey. Because he is rotating the spaces, and punctuation, you can't filter on the subject or sender field. Mozilla/Firefox/Seamonkey only allow filtering on the subject, and sender fields. You shouldn't have to be doing it, your ISP should be running cleanfeed and have a news admin on staff who deals with this stuff. Call up Erols and ask if Afterburner or Ereshkigal are still working there. All that is left of Erols is really only the name. They were bought up by RCN, and then StarPower (Pepco and RCN), and then spun off to become RCN once again. Erekose is probably still there. I have used his services on a number of occasions. However, I have seen no sign that RCN filters anything out of their news feeds. So, I have been forwarding everything he posts to abuse at his newsgroup sender. He should be needing some new isp accounts shortly. He cycles through them on a regular basis. He loses accounts, then just gets new ones. The solution is to have your news admin deal with it on the server. If your news admin is running "cleanfeed" it should deal with it automatically because it has a feature to pattern match repeated posts to multiple groups. I could easily do the same thing by running my news through my spambayes proxy. But I don't really care enough to bother. It would be so terribly useful if Mozilla/Firefox/Seamonkey would provide the same message filter capabilities for news that it does for email. I have asked them about it but they just get all testy and tell me to do it myself. -Chuck |
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It is true that this particular newsgroup does not have a moderator,
but there are moderated usenet groups. On Tue, 01 Jan 2008 19:04:44 -0500, Chuck Harris wrote: This is a usenet group. There is no moderator. wrote: Wake up!!! Can't you stop all these bull**** MI5 persecution posts???? They're absolutely clogging up all the rec.radio listings!!!!! Please do your job! -- Posted via a free Usenet account from http://www.teranews.com |
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Chuck Harris wrote:
Erekose is probably still there. I have used his services on a number of occasions. However, I have seen no sign that RCN filters anything out of their news feeds. It's crazy not to, because there is convenient automated software that does the job for you, and integrates well into the two most popular news server packages, INN and CNEWS. And because Usenet propagates from site to site, if your server runs cleanfeed, the benefit is seen by all of the sites downstream of it. This means the guys they feed are happier too. I could easily do the same thing by running my news through my spambayes proxy. But I don't really care enough to bother. It would be so terribly useful if Mozilla/Firefox/Seamonkey would provide the same message filter capabilities for news that it does for email. I have asked them about it but they just get all testy and tell me to do it myself. Doesn't it allow simple regexp searches in headers? rn did that twenty-five years ago. Just kill anything with more than three commas in the Newsgroups: line. --scott -- "C'est un Nagra. C'est suisse, et tres, tres precis." |
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Scott Dorsey wrote:
Chuck Harris wrote: Erekose is probably still there. I have used his services on a number of occasions. However, I have seen no sign that RCN filters anything out of their news feeds. It's crazy not to, because there is convenient automated software that does the job for you, and integrates well into the two most popular news server packages, INN and CNEWS. As I understand things, it is a "common carrier" sort of thing. If you make no effort to filter or censor a feed, then you are not responsible for its content. If RCN were to make an effort to filter out junk like the MI5 stuff, and other nasties, and they missed some, then they would be open to being sued for what they missed. It is like the protection the telephone company has against being sued because of folks that use the telephone to perform illegal activities. And because Usenet propagates from site to site, if your server runs cleanfeed, the benefit is seen by all of the sites downstream of it. This means the guys they feed are happier too. I could easily do the same thing by running my news through my spambayes proxy. But I don't really care enough to bother. It would be so terribly useful if Mozilla/Firefox/Seamonkey would provide the same message filter capabilities for news that it does for email. I have asked them about it but they just get all testy and tell me to do it myself. Doesn't it allow simple regexp searches in headers? rn did that twenty-five years ago. Just kill anything with more than three commas in the Newsgroups: line. --scott No, Mozilla/Thunderbird/Seamonkey doesn't understand regular expressions. They have never taken the email and newsreader portions very seriously. The best they can do is to select on a word, or a part of a word... pretty dumb, actually. -Chuck |
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Chuck Harris wrote:
As I understand things, it is a "common carrier" sort of thing. If you make no effort to filter or censor a feed, then you are not responsible for its content. If RCN were to make an effort to filter out junk like the MI5 stuff, and other nasties, and they missed some, then they would be open to being sued for what they missed. It is like the protection the telephone company has against being sued because of folks that use the telephone to perform illegal activities. That's stupid. Dump RCN and get an account with a competently run news server. Anybody who would hide behind that sort of reasoning has no business connecting their machine to Usenet. ISPs have NO common carrier protection of any sort... and if a good faith effort at maintaining their feed isn't sufficient, that is no excuse not to make such an effort... --scott -- "C'est un Nagra. C'est suisse, et tres, tres precis." |
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Scott Dorsey wrote:
Chuck Harris wrote: As I understand things, it is a "common carrier" sort of thing. If you make no effort to filter or censor a feed, then you are not responsible for its content. If RCN were to make an effort to filter out junk like the MI5 stuff, and other nasties, and they missed some, then they would be open to being sued for what they missed. It is like the protection the telephone company has against being sued because of folks that use the telephone to perform illegal activities. That's stupid. Dump RCN and get an account with a competently run news server. Anybody who would hide behind that sort of reasoning has no business connecting their machine to Usenet. I am not aware of RCN having made any statements on the subject. I am simply telling you my understanding of the legal issue. ISPs have NO common carrier protection of any sort... Oh but they do! Otherwise they would be liable for all of the nasty stuff goes over their feed. Things such as illegal downloads of copyrighted material, software piracy, kiddie porn... and if a good faith effort at maintaining their feed isn't sufficient, that is no excuse not to make such an effort... Personally, I would prefer that they didn't attempt to be a censor of what comes over my feed. There tastes might differ from my own. I would prefer to control the filters. -Chuck |
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Chuck Harris wrote:
Scott Dorsey wrote: ISPs have NO common carrier protection of any sort... Oh but they do! Otherwise they would be liable for all of the nasty stuff goes over their feed. Things such as illegal downloads of copyrighted material, software piracy, kiddie porn... If the FCC has not given it the status of a common carrier, and it is not regulated by a public utility commission, it is not a common carrier under US law. European law may be different. The degree to which an ISP is legally liable for the traffic they transmit is still under discussion. Look at the Communications Decency Act, for example, which makes the ISP liable for a lot of things which they legally could not be if they had been declared common carriers. Personally, I would prefer that they didn't attempt to be a censor of what comes over my feed. There tastes might differ from my own. I would prefer to control the filters. But they have to be. Even setting retention and expiration times and deciding which of the millions of newsgroups to carry and whether to accept different kinds of control messages is in some way attempting to "censor what comes over your feed." Your news admin has limited resources; he can apply them toward getting more binaries groups, or he can apply them toward extending retention times of existing groups. He can set things up so that higher traffic groups expire faster. It is what news admins do. --scott -- "C'est un Nagra. C'est suisse, et tres, tres precis." |
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