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Richard Knoppow April 5th 09 02:30 AM

Hallicrafter's Tour on Film
 
I found a tour of the Hallicrafter's plant on line.
This is a WW-2 propaganda film, dated 1944 and titled "Voice
of Victory". In two parts at http://www.archive.org
It has considerable detail on the construction of the
BC-610 and shows some other products in somewhat less
detail.
--
Richard Knoppow
Los Angeles
WB6KBL




JB[_3_] April 6th 09 01:52 AM

Hallicrafter's Tour on Film
 
I found a tour of the Hallicrafter's plant on line.
This is a WW-2 propaganda film, dated 1944 and titled "Voice
of Victory". In two parts at http://www.archive.org
It has considerable detail on the construction of the
BC-610 and shows some other products in somewhat less
detail.
--
Richard Knoppow
Los Angeles
WB6KBL


My bet is they didn't need always need a heater in the back of the SCR266.
Interesting to see all the dollies and come-alongs used in production.

Also tons of other neat-o screen gems at that site. A keeper.


Richard Knoppow April 6th 09 02:22 AM

Hallicrafter's Tour on Film
 

"JB" wrote in message
...
I found a tour of the Hallicrafter's plant on line.
This is a WW-2 propaganda film, dated 1944 and titled
"Voice
of Victory". In two parts at http://www.archive.org
It has considerable detail on the construction of
the
BC-610 and shows some other products in somewhat less
detail.
--
Richard Knoppow
Los Angeles
WB6KBL


My bet is they didn't need always need a heater in the
back of the SCR266.
Interesting to see all the dollies and come-alongs used in
production.

Also tons of other neat-o screen gems at that site. A
keeper.

I am not sure what venue the film was meant for.
Probably not theatrical release. I remember seeing lots of
this sort of stuff in grammer school but this doesn't quite
fit that either.
This site also has old radio programs on it and much
other stuff.
Look for _Command Performance_ for an illustration of
how records were made c.1940. This had method continues to
this very day for vinyl records. 45's OTOH, were made by
injection molding. A very well thought out record system but
RCA just did not get the point that people wanted continuous
records and didn't like record changers. The CBS Lp was a
makeshift. Too bad RCA was so hide-bound about a lot of
things.

--

--
Richard Knoppow
Los Angeles
WB6KBL




k3hvg April 6th 09 11:38 AM

Hallicrafter's Tour on Film
 
Richard Knoppow wrote:


I am not sure what venue the film was meant for.
Probably not theatrical release. I remember seeing lots of
this sort of stuff in grammer school but this doesn't quite
fit that either.


I have seen a version of this with a Signal Corps officer and his
introduction that described the ongoing cooperation between industry and
the military. I would tend to agree that this was not a film for
outside distribution as its a bit esoteric for the masses. I'll bet it
was a typical "film of interest" for the various Army signal schools.
When I was in high school, a young lady who's father worked for one of
the Government archive agencies loaned a car-load of 16mm WWII technical
training films to our school. I can vividly remember the movie on the
SCR-506 with it mounted in trucks and other vehicles. That's the one
that made the cover of a 1945 QST. The '299 video is a keeper, for sure,
but wonder where all the other ones are now?

de K3HVG


Roger Basford April 6th 09 02:20 PM

Hallicrafter's Tour on Film
 

"K3HVG" wrote in message
.. .
Richard Knoppow wrote:


I am not sure what venue the film was meant for. Probably not
theatrical release. I remember seeing lots of this sort of stuff in
grammer school but this doesn't quite fit that either.


I have seen a version of this with a Signal Corps officer and his
introduction that described the ongoing cooperation between industry and
the military. I would tend to agree that this was not a film for outside
distribution as its a bit esoteric for the masses. I'll bet it was a
typical "film of interest" for the various Army signal schools. When I was
in high school, a young lady who's father worked for one of the Government
archive agencies loaned a car-load of 16mm WWII technical training films
to our school. I can vividly remember the movie on the SCR-506 with it
mounted in trucks and other vehicles. That's the one that made the cover
of a 1945 QST. The '299 video is a keeper, for sure, but wonder where all
the other ones are now?

de K3HVG


The SCR-694 (BC-1306) training video is available in three parts, on Youtube
I think. I also found "Pro Patria Vigilans" on Real Military Flix

http://www.realmilitaryflix.com/public/main.cfm

They also have the Joan_Eleanor training film as well.

I found the VOV film about the BC-610 very useful for stripping down my TX,
helps to know how it all bolts together!

73

Roger.G3VKM




Scott Dorsey April 6th 09 03:40 PM

Hallicrafter's Tour on Film
 
Richard Knoppow wrote:
Look for _Command Performance_ for an illustration of
how records were made c.1940. This had method continues to
this very day for vinyl records. 45's OTOH, were made by
injection molding.


Back in the seventies, if you wanted a 7" pressed you could either get a
vinyl pressing (like an LP) or an injection-molded styrene disk. For large
runs, the styrene pressings were considerably cheaper, so the big labels
used them almost exclusively. But, the vinyl pressings lasted a lot longer
and the distortion when they wore out wasn't quite as horrible, so they
sometimes were used for DJ promo discs and small releases.

None of the styrene systems are still running as far as I know, so if you
get a 7" pressing done today, it will be on standard vinyl.

A very well thought out record system but
RCA just did not get the point that people wanted continuous
records and didn't like record changers. The CBS Lp was a
makeshift. Too bad RCA was so hide-bound about a lot of
things.


Well, the thing is that at the time, the vast majority of record sales
were singles. And really, this continued until the early 1970s for
pop music. A big discussion of the economics of singles vs. LP records
can be found in Jim Eargle's original JAES article in the forties.

The LP was a huge advantage for classical recordings and it totally changed
the form of jazz to be able to make a cut longer than one side of a 78. But
the 45 sure had a lot of popularity in the pop music world for very long
because they were very cheap to make, and because the form of pop music was
such that people wanted one song at a time.

The CD Single flopped mostly because it was very expensive.... you could
get the full album for only a bit more than the single, and so there wasn't
a whole lot of demand for the single. But now in the age of digital downloads
we are seeing a real resurgence in singles sales.
--scott

--
"C'est un Nagra. C'est suisse, et tres, tres precis."

JB[_3_] April 6th 09 04:46 PM

Hallicrafter's Tour on Film
 
I am not sure what venue the film was meant for.
Probably not theatrical release. I remember seeing lots of
this sort of stuff in grammer school but this doesn't quite
fit that either.


A morale booster for Halicrafters employees. A gift from the Signal Corps.
Nothing like a patriotic mission critical project to make everyone sit up
straighter.

Its a shame that morale is so thwarted these days in the name of "tolerance"
for all that is self destructive. Sure, people did bad things in the day,
but at least they didn't promote it in the media. Remember the "Joe Camel"
debacle, where it was finally considered that we shouldn't promote smoking
with cute cartoon characters. Now go look at the prime-time cartoons and
see what they are promoting. Their motto seems to be "do everything that
isn't specifically prohibited by the fine print of the law", "good taste be
damned above all". Flakes like that should be tarred and feathered and run
out of town before someone thinks to pass a law against "everything not
specifically allowed by law".


Tim Wescott April 6th 09 05:49 PM

Hallicrafter's Tour on Film
 
On Mon, 06 Apr 2009 06:38:22 -0400, K3HVG wrote:

Richard Knoppow wrote:


I am not sure what venue the film was meant for.
Probably not theatrical release. I remember seeing lots of this sort of
stuff in grammer school but this doesn't quite fit that either.


I have seen a version of this with a Signal Corps officer and his
introduction that described the ongoing cooperation between industry and
the military. I would tend to agree that this was not a film for
outside distribution as its a bit esoteric for the masses. I'll bet it
was a typical "film of interest" for the various Army signal schools.
When I was in high school, a young lady who's father worked for one of
the Government archive agencies loaned a car-load of 16mm WWII technical
training films to our school. I can vividly remember the movie on the
SCR-506 with it mounted in trucks and other vehicles. That's the one
that made the cover of a 1945 QST. The '299 video is a keeper, for sure,
but wonder where all the other ones are now?

de K3HVG


I wonder if the military sent the films out to amateur radio clubs as
well? It'd be a good recruitment tool both for the signal corps and for
various manufacturers looking for skilled hands.

--
http://www.wescottdesign.com

Richard Knoppow April 6th 09 11:21 PM

Hallicrafter's Tour on Film
 

"JB" wrote in message
...
I found a tour of the Hallicrafter's plant on line.
This is a WW-2 propaganda film, dated 1944 and titled
"Voice
of Victory". In two parts at http://www.archive.org
It has considerable detail on the construction of
the
BC-610 and shows some other products in somewhat less
detail.
--
Richard Knoppow
Los Angeles
WB6KBL


My bet is they didn't need always need a heater in the
back of the SCR266.
Interesting to see all the dollies and come-alongs used in
production.

Also tons of other neat-o screen gems at that site. A
keeper.


I looked at the film again and see what you mean by the
dollies, etc. I didn't realize the first time how much hand
work was done. I didn't see a single power tool of any sort,
the closest was a "Yankee" screwdriver. Undoubtedly there
were power tools elsewhere but they didn't seem to be used
for assembly.
BTW, the ham radio scene near the opening is one of the
few representations of ham radio on film that is not
laughable. I did notice the absense of a clock, the fellow
checks the time on his watch. Perhaps deliberately so that
there would be no problems with the clock jumping around
between shots.
Jam Handy Films, who made this epic, was based in
Detroit and produced a lot of industrials for General
Motors, particularly the Chevrolet division, some of which
are on this site.
They did all right, except when they tried to emulate
Hollywood, as in the montage at the end of this film.


--
Richard Knoppow
Los Angeles
WB6KBL




Richard Knoppow April 6th 09 11:34 PM

Hallicrafter's Tour on Film
 

"Scott Dorsey" wrote in message
...
Richard Knoppow wrote:
Look for _Command Performance_ for an illustration of
how records were made c.1940. This had method continues to
this very day for vinyl records. 45's OTOH, were made by
injection molding.


Back in the seventies, if you wanted a 7" pressed you
could either get a
vinyl pressing (like an LP) or an injection-molded styrene
disk. For large
runs, the styrene pressings were considerably cheaper, so
the big labels
used them almost exclusively. But, the vinyl pressings
lasted a lot longer
and the distortion when they wore out wasn't quite as
horrible, so they
sometimes were used for DJ promo discs and small releases.

None of the styrene systems are still running as far as I
know, so if you
get a 7" pressing done today, it will be on standard
vinyl.

A very well thought out record system but
RCA just did not get the point that people wanted
continuous
records and didn't like record changers. The CBS Lp was a
makeshift. Too bad RCA was so hide-bound about a lot of
things.


Well, the thing is that at the time, the vast majority of
record sales
were singles. And really, this continued until the early
1970s for
pop music. A big discussion of the economics of singles
vs. LP records
can be found in Jim Eargle's original JAES article in the
forties.

The LP was a huge advantage for classical recordings and
it totally changed
the form of jazz to be able to make a cut longer than one
side of a 78. But
the 45 sure had a lot of popularity in the pop music world
for very long
because they were very cheap to make, and because the form
of pop music was
such that people wanted one song at a time.

The CD Single flopped mostly because it was very
expensive.... you could
get the full album for only a bit more than the single,
and so there wasn't
a whole lot of demand for the single. But now in the age
of digital downloads
we are seeing a real resurgence in singles sales.
--scott

Well, I am old enough to remember when Lp's came out.
They chased 78's out of the record stores in nothing flat.
The 45 is an interesting case. It was much better engineered
than the Lp. The speed was chosen to be optimum for for the
inner and outer groove diameter, which is not the case for a
12" Lp. RCA also designed a innovative changer mechanism for
it, using a one inch center hole that was much less prone to
wear than the 1/4" (approximately) hole in the Lp or 78s.
This also allowed the use of a simple dropping mechanism in
the changer. The groove area is depressed so that the record
is supported by the label area and a rim at the outside to
prevent groove damage from records sliding or rotating over
each other. I've forgotten the maximum time possible on a 45
but its considerable, probably around six minutes if not cut
too hot. The audio quality of early 45's were better than
early Lp's partly due to the higher groove velocity but also
because RCA chose a different groove shape and there were
some other differences.
Columbia probably developed the Lp from its use of
broadcast type transcriptions to make masters for records. I
am not sure of the date this started but I think it was
probably around 1938. The use of a 16", 33-1/3 disc allowed
more flexibility in the recording session than cutting
directly to a wax master. Columbia (whoever they are now)
has released many CD's transferred from these discs. In a
few cases I hear faults that I thought were in the 78's.
Many early RCA and Victor records have been re-released from
transfers made from the stored metal work. The quality is
quite astonishing, generally better than the Columbia
transcriptions. Perhaps they just aged better. Its
interesting to me that we can hear quality in many of these
early recordings that hasn't been heard since they were
recorded (on the monitor speakers) if even then.
Anyway, this is all pretty far from boat anchor stuff,
although the disc recording equipment certainly fulfilled
the requirements for being boat anchors!
BTW, I knew John Eargle quite well and saw him last
only a few days before he died.


--

--
Richard Knoppow
Los Angeles
WB6KBL




Roger Basford April 7th 09 08:40 AM

Hallicrafter's Tour on Film
 

"Richard Knoppow" wrote in message
m...



I looked at the film again and see what you mean by the dollies, etc.
I didn't realize the first time how much hand work was done. I didn't see
a single power tool of any sort, the closest was a "Yankee" screwdriver.
Undoubtedly there were power tools elsewhere but they didn't seem to be
used for assembly.
BTW, the ham radio scene near the opening is one of the few
representations of ham radio on film that is not laughable. I did notice
the absense of a clock, the fellow checks the time on his watch. Perhaps
deliberately so that there would be no problems with the clock jumping
around between shots.
Jam Handy Films, who made this epic, was based in Detroit and produced
a lot of industrials for General Motors, particularly the Chevrolet
division, some of which are on this site.
They did all right, except when they tried to emulate Hollywood, as in
the montage at the end of this film.


--
Richard Knoppow
Los Angeles
WB6KBL



Hi Richard,

I did try to ID the W9WZE operator in the clip - it's not Bill Halligan -
any ideas? One suggestion I had was that he was one of the senior engineers
working for the company. I didn't notice any date on the captions, so if
that is a post-1941 film then the operating session would have surely been
staged, as Ham Radio had shut down, so maybe it was done by using recordings
of the other stations?

Yes, no power tools then, but I did like the fact that all the ladies
working on the line had their own named tray of tools. I wonder how many of
them are still alive? They produced nearly 15000 SCR-299, 399 and 499
variants during WWII and I'd bet there are a fair percentage of those still
around across the world.

73

Roger Basford - G3VKM - Norfolk, England.



Geoffrey S. Mendelson April 7th 09 04:47 PM

Hallicrafter's Tour on Film
 
Roger Basford wrote:
I did try to ID the W9WZE operator in the clip - it's not Bill Halligan -
any ideas? One suggestion I had was that he was one of the senior engineers
working for the company. I didn't notice any date on the captions, so if
that is a post-1941 film then the operating session would have surely been
staged, as Ham Radio had shut down, so maybe it was done by using recordings
of the other stations?


Although the ham at the other end called him Bill, if you say it was not
Halligan, I'll take your word for it. A little later in the film he and
another man are identified as Bill Halligan and someone else, whose name
I did not catch.

I assume if you actualy know what Halligan looked like (I don't) you can
tell them apart and if you are careful at listening for names, you can
figure it out.

BTW, did anyone notice the one serious flaw in their design? It was designed
according to the film to work using standard 117 volt household electricity.
A gasoline generator was included as an addon (a trailer) that provided
it.

AFAIK they were never used in combat in a place that had 117 volt AC power.

I know that Europe had 220 or 240 volt power, what did the pacific areas have?

Geoff.

--
Geoffrey S. Mendelson, Jerusalem, Israel N3OWJ/4X1GM

Roger Basford April 7th 09 05:19 PM

Hallicrafter's Tour on Film
 

"Geoffrey S. Mendelson" wrote in message
...
Roger Basford wrote:
I did try to ID the W9WZE operator in the clip - it's not Bill Halligan -
any ideas? One suggestion I had was that he was one of the senior
engineers
working for the company. I didn't notice any date on the captions, so if
that is a post-1941 film then the operating session would have surely
been
staged, as Ham Radio had shut down, so maybe it was done by using
recordings
of the other stations?


Although the ham at the other end called him Bill, if you say it was not
Halligan, I'll take your word for it. A little later in the film he and
another man are identified as Bill Halligan and someone else, whose name
I did not catch.

I assume if you actualy know what Halligan looked like (I don't) you can
tell them apart and if you are careful at listening for names, you can
figure it out.

BTW, did anyone notice the one serious flaw in their design? It was
designed
according to the film to work using standard 117 volt household
electricity.
A gasoline generator was included as an addon (a trailer) that provided
it.

AFAIK they were never used in combat in a place that had 117 volt AC
power.

I know that Europe had 220 or 240 volt power, what did the pacific areas
have?

Geoff.

--
Geoffrey S. Mendelson, Jerusalem, Israel N3OWJ/4X1GM


Hi Geoff,

The guy with the glasses in the scene in the office is Halligan, that's
where they are looking at the drawings and also inside the RF deck. The
other chap in the ham station part looks different. I suppose it didn't
matter if it was a staged scene.

I suppose that during training in the US there might have been times when
domestic 117 V AC was available but in the Pacific they probably used
domestic power supplies of the colonial power, so British standard for
Australia, Malaya and the British-administered islands, Dutch for what we
now call Indonesia and possibly US standard for the Philippines? In Europe
220-240 60Hz is the standard now but I don't know about WWII, the UK still
had areas using 220 V DC at that time.

There's an interesting article on the SCR-399 in Russian service here -
http://www.w9wze.net/df.php?dn=Featu...hall_Zhukov.wp

Cheers,

Roger/G3VKM



Tim Wescott April 7th 09 06:00 PM

Hallicrafter's Tour on Film
 
On Tue, 07 Apr 2009 15:47:04 +0000, Geoffrey S. Mendelson wrote:

Roger Basford wrote:
I did try to ID the W9WZE operator in the clip - it's not Bill Halligan
- any ideas? One suggestion I had was that he was one of the senior
engineers working for the company. I didn't notice any date on the
captions, so if that is a post-1941 film then the operating session
would have surely been staged, as Ham Radio had shut down, so maybe it
was done by using recordings of the other stations?


Although the ham at the other end called him Bill, if you say it was not
Halligan, I'll take your word for it. A little later in the film he and
another man are identified as Bill Halligan and someone else, whose name
I did not catch.

I assume if you actualy know what Halligan looked like (I don't) you can
tell them apart and if you are careful at listening for names, you can
figure it out.

BTW, did anyone notice the one serious flaw in their design? It was
designed according to the film to work using standard 117 volt household
electricity. A gasoline generator was included as an addon (a trailer)
that provided it.

AFAIK they were never used in combat in a place that had 117 volt AC
power.

I know that Europe had 220 or 240 volt power, what did the pacific areas
have?

Geoff.


If you're invading, you get to say what standard power is.

They may well have sent the thing out with a set of adapters (or just
taps on the mains transformers) for times when reliable power was
available.

--
http://www.wescottdesign.com

Richard Knoppow April 7th 09 09:54 PM

Hallicrafter's Tour on Film
 

"Roger Basford" Roger at new-gate dot co dot uk wrote in
message
et...

"Richard Knoppow" wrote in
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m...



I looked at the film again and see what you mean by
the dollies, etc. I didn't realize the first time how
much hand work was done. I didn't see a single power tool
of any sort, the closest was a "Yankee" screwdriver.
Undoubtedly there were power tools elsewhere but they
didn't seem to be used for assembly.
BTW, the ham radio scene near the opening is one of
the few representations of ham radio on film that is not
laughable. I did notice the absense of a clock, the
fellow checks the time on his watch. Perhaps deliberately
so that there would be no problems with the clock jumping
around between shots.
Jam Handy Films, who made this epic, was based in
Detroit and produced a lot of industrials for General
Motors, particularly the Chevrolet division, some of
which are on this site.
They did all right, except when they tried to emulate
Hollywood, as in the montage at the end of this film.


--
Richard Knoppow
Los Angeles
WB6KBL



Hi Richard,

I did try to ID the W9WZE operator in the clip - it's not
Bill Halligan - any ideas? One suggestion I had was that
he was one of the senior engineers working for the
company. I didn't notice any date on the captions, so if
that is a post-1941 film then the operating session would
have surely been staged, as Ham Radio had shut down, so
maybe it was done by using recordings of the other
stations?

Yes, no power tools then, but I did like the fact that all
the ladies working on the line had their own named tray of
tools. I wonder how many of them are still alive? They
produced nearly 15000 SCR-299, 399 and 499 variants during
WWII and I'd bet there are a fair percentage of those
still around across the world.

73

Roger Basford - G3VKM - Norfolk, England.

The ham radio session was almost certainly staged. Old
call books would identify the station. I wonder if any
library has a collection of them, perhaps the ARRL does.
Bill Halligan is the fellow behind the desk in the scene
where the modifications to the HT-4 are being discussed.
I was wondering how many of these rigs were made, where
did you get the statistics?


--

--
Richard Knoppow
Los Angeles
WB6KBL





Richard Knoppow April 7th 09 10:04 PM

Hallicrafter's Tour on Film
 

"Roger Basford" Roger at new-gate dot co dot uk wrote in
message
et...

"Geoffrey S. Mendelson" wrote in
message ...
Roger Basford wrote:
I did try to ID the W9WZE operator in the clip - it's
not Bill Halligan -
any ideas? One suggestion I had was that he was one of
the senior engineers
working for the company. I didn't notice any date on the
captions, so if
that is a post-1941 film then the operating session
would have surely been
staged, as Ham Radio had shut down, so maybe it was done
by using recordings
of the other stations?


Although the ham at the other end called him Bill, if you
say it was not
Halligan, I'll take your word for it. A little later in
the film he and
another man are identified as Bill Halligan and someone
else, whose name
I did not catch.

I assume if you actualy know what Halligan looked like (I
don't) you can
tell them apart and if you are careful at listening for
names, you can
figure it out.

BTW, did anyone notice the one serious flaw in their
design? It was designed
according to the film to work using standard 117 volt
household electricity.
A gasoline generator was included as an addon (a trailer)
that provided
it.

AFAIK they were never used in combat in a place that had
117 volt AC power.

I know that Europe had 220 or 240 volt power, what did
the pacific areas have?

Geoff.

--
Geoffrey S. Mendelson, Jerusalem, Israel
N3OWJ/4X1GM


Hi Geoff,

The guy with the glasses in the scene in the office is
Halligan, that's where they are looking at the drawings
and also inside the RF deck. The other chap in the ham
station part looks different. I suppose it didn't matter
if it was a staged scene.

I suppose that during training in the US there might have
been times when domestic 117 V AC was available but in the
Pacific they probably used domestic power supplies of the
colonial power, so British standard for Australia, Malaya
and the British-administered islands, Dutch for what we
now call Indonesia and possibly US standard for the
Philippines? In Europe 220-240 60Hz is the standard now
but I don't know about WWII, the UK still had areas using
220 V DC at that time.

There's an interesting article on the SCR-399 in Russian
service here -
http://www.w9wze.net/df.php?dn=Featu...hall_Zhukov.wp

Cheers,

Roger/G3VKM

I think you mean 50hz. Power standards have varied all
over the place and are still not uniform. In 1944, for
instance, Los Angeles had both 50hz and 60hz power. A few
areas had DC power (parts of New York City for instance).
Canada around Niagra Falls had 25hz power (made the lights
flicker). In the US standard mains voltages were 110, 115,
117, 120, 125V,220, single phase AC and similar voltages for
DC. There was also three-phase AC at 220, 440, 480, and some
other voltages depending on where you were. Much military
equipment was usually designed with transformers which could
operate from either a nominal 115 or 220 V and could operate
on 50hz as well as 60hz current. Some equipment, like the
BC-779 receiver (Hammarlund Super-Pro) were available with
power supplies that could run on 25hz as well as 50/60hz at
perhaps a dozen voltages.
Undoubedly the BC-60 could run on several voltages and
on 50hz current but the rigs shown in the film are
self-contained meant to operate from the generator sets
supplied.


--

--
Richard Knoppow
Los Angeles
WB6KBL




Richard Knoppow April 7th 09 10:06 PM

Hallicrafter's Tour on Film
 

"Roger Basford" Roger at new-gate dot co dot uk wrote in
message
et...

"Richard Knoppow" wrote in
message
m...



I looked at the film again and see what you mean by
the dollies, etc. I didn't realize the first time how
much hand work was done. I didn't see a single power tool
of any sort, the closest was a "Yankee" screwdriver.
Undoubtedly there were power tools elsewhere but they
didn't seem to be used for assembly.
BTW, the ham radio scene near the opening is one of
the few representations of ham radio on film that is not
laughable. I did notice the absense of a clock, the
fellow checks the time on his watch. Perhaps deliberately
so that there would be no problems with the clock jumping
around between shots.
Jam Handy Films, who made this epic, was based in
Detroit and produced a lot of industrials for General
Motors, particularly the Chevrolet division, some of
which are on this site.
They did all right, except when they tried to emulate
Hollywood, as in the montage at the end of this film.


--
Richard Knoppow
Los Angeles
WB6KBL



Hi Richard,

I did try to ID the W9WZE operator in the clip - it's not
Bill Halligan - any ideas? One suggestion I had was that
he was one of the senior engineers working for the
company. I didn't notice any date on the captions, so if
that is a post-1941 film then the operating session would
have surely been staged, as Ham Radio had shut down, so
maybe it was done by using recordings of the other
stations?

Yes, no power tools then, but I did like the fact that all
the ladies working on the line had their own named tray of
tools. I wonder how many of them are still alive? They
produced nearly 15000 SCR-299, 399 and 499 variants during
WWII and I'd bet there are a fair percentage of those
still around across the world.

73

Roger Basford - G3VKM - Norfolk, England.

FWIW, Bill Halligan was W9AC


--

--
Richard Knoppow
Los Angeles
WB6KBL




Roger Basford April 7th 09 10:19 PM

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"Richard Knoppow" wrote in message
...


Roger Basford - G3VKM - Norfolk, England.

The ham radio session was almost certainly staged. Old call books would
identify the station. I wonder if any library has a collection of them,
perhaps the ARRL does.
Bill Halligan is the fellow behind the desk in the scene where the
modifications to the HT-4 are being discussed.
I was wondering how many of these rigs were made, where did you get the
statistics?


--

--
Richard Knoppow
Los Angeles
WB6KBL





Hi Richard,

The topic of BC-610 numbers came up on the WS19 group on Yahoo recently and
someone supplied the following:-

"During the period 1 Jan. 1940 through 31 December 1945 the US Government
purchased 14,706 of the SCR-299, 399 and 499 sets.

Practically speaking, deliveries did not start until 1942, when 1571 sets
were
delivered. In 1943, 5,911 were delivered, in 1944 another 5,317 sets, and
in
1945: 1,907. This does not count the HT-4 versions delivered for testing
before
the creation of the BC-610, and I believe there were sets purchased and
delivered after 1945 as well, for use in assorted AN/MRC- numbered
communications
vans, up through the Korean War period.

I don't know whether there were any lend-lease contracts for these sets. If
there were, those numbers probably would not be included in the above".

Can't recall who posted that but it was someone in the US.

Hallicrafters also re-badged the BC-610 as the HT-4 after WWII, probably to
clear stocks, I have a manual for one. By the time the Korean War came
along, dealers over here were offering good prices to buy back '610s and
ET4336s that had been sold to the ham market, in order to resell to the
military - two bites of the cherry.

Roger Basford



Jon Teske April 7th 09 10:30 PM

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On Tue, 07 Apr 2009 12:00:44 -0500, Tim Wescott
wrote:

On Tue, 07 Apr 2009 15:47:04 +0000, Geoffrey S. Mendelson wrote:

Roger Basford wrote:
I did try to ID the W9WZE operator in the clip - it's not Bill Halligan
- any ideas? One suggestion I had was that he was one of the senior
engineers working for the company. I didn't notice any date on the
captions, so if that is a post-1941 film then the operating session
would have surely been staged, as Ham Radio had shut down, so maybe it
was done by using recordings of the other stations?


Although the ham at the other end called him Bill, if you say it was not
Halligan, I'll take your word for it. A little later in the film he and
another man are identified as Bill Halligan and someone else, whose name
I did not catch.

I assume if you actualy know what Halligan looked like (I don't) you can
tell them apart and if you are careful at listening for names, you can
figure it out.

I'm going a vague memory here, but one of the fellows did look like
Bill Halligan who 10 years later was often pictured in Hallicrafter's
ads. I remember he had a two letter suffix in his call and for some
reason I thought it was W9AN. Someone with a 1950's QST might be able
to see the ads. I believe that Bill Halligan is the fellow who appears
at minute 5:30 or so of part one of the film and I think he is the
fellow on the left with the rimless glasses. Notice how spartan his
executive office is. Two letter suffixes were extremely rare in those
days. You had to be licensed before WW I to get one. There was no
country prefix at the start. I had two mentors in the mid 50's when I
was a young teen with my first license. They told me that right after
WW 1 their calls were 9GI and 9AOF. The guy with the two lettter
suffix got his before the war, the guy with the three letter suffix
got his immediatiately after WW I and always thought he should have
had a two letter suffix. W9GI was the only two letter suffix in our
town. He was an old marine telegrapher on the Great Lakes ore carriers
and car ferries. The "W" was added later to US calls (and the "K's"
came in the 50's ...I was first K9CAH in 1956 and callsigns were done
in alphabetic order at that time. "N" and "A" suffixes came later.

Of course, the scene with the ham operating at the beginning had to
have been a simulation as there was no ham radio during WW II, the
hams were forced off the air. The same thing happened in WW I.

I doubt anyone with an original two letter suffix is alive anymore.
The few I knew then were very old men in the 50's/60's. Those with
two letter suffixes who have them now started to get them in the
mid-late 1970s. At first you could get one if you held an Amateur
Extra and had been licensed for 20 years. The first group to get the
two letter option at that time were those who held the Extra before
incentive licensing came to be in the late 60's (they were very few in
number) Then it got phased in by according to when you got your Extra
and had the 20 years in. I was in that 2nd batch. Later the whole
thing became a part of a "vanity" callsign program. I got my two
letter suffix in 1977 right after I crossed the 20 year mark (I was
licensed at age 13.) To the extent they were available you could
request a callsign. I got my own initials though that call was
actually my third choice.

My first radio was a Hallicrafters S-38D which my folks bought for me
(rather cluelessly) while I was awaiting my license (It took about 3-4
months for a license to come through after one took an exam back
then,) The S-38 family was really just a consumer shortwave listening
radio and I'd be hard pressed to think of a radio less suitable for
two way communcations. Nevertheless, I did muddle through for one year
with that radio for a year and probably developed great skill in
selective listening to sort out signals on the novice bands which were
very crowded then. I worked quite a bit of stateside stations,
probably 20 states with that receiver and a heath AT-1 trasmitter,
rated at 25 watts INPUT, but actually putting out only about 7 watts.
We were QRP before there was QRP. By the next Christmas I had my
General Class which was actually quite a feat for a 13 year old as the
test required hand manipulation of algebraic formulae and I was a year
shy of having any Algebra class. My high school shop teacher (W9ZKB
-SK) tutored me through all this and I passed the first attempt. For a
short while I was the youngest ham in Wisconsin. I got a Hammarlund
HQ-100, one of the very first of those and had to wait about two
months beyond Christmas for it to come in. I had by then a Viking
Adventurer which was 50 watts in and about 25 out. It was all CW, I
couldn't afford a phone rig at home. I operated a lot from my Junior
High School where W9ZKB set up a spare rig of his in his drafting
classroom. He let me operate there during his class when I had a study
hall but I had to operate CW since I couldn't disturb his class. With
that lack of phone access, I became a pretty dedicated CW op. I still
am.

Jon Teske W3JT

k3hvg April 7th 09 11:33 PM

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Geoffrey S. Mendelson wrote:
Roger Basford wrote:
I did try to ID the W9WZE operator in the clip - it's not Bill Halligan -
any ideas? One suggestion I had was that he was one of the senior engineers
working for the company. I didn't notice any date on the captions, so if
that is a post-1941 film then the operating session would have surely been
staged, as Ham Radio had shut down, so maybe it was done by using recordings
of the other stations?


Although the ham at the other end called him Bill, if you say it was not
Halligan, I'll take your word for it. A little later in the film he and
another man are identified as Bill Halligan and someone else, whose name
I did not catch.

I assume if you actualy know what Halligan looked like (I don't) you can
tell them apart and if you are careful at listening for names, you can
figure it out.

BTW, did anyone notice the one serious flaw in their design? It was designed
according to the film to work using standard 117 volt household electricity.
A gasoline generator was included as an addon (a trailer) that provided
it.

AFAIK they were never used in combat in a place that had 117 volt AC power.

I know that Europe had 220 or 240 volt power, what did the pacific areas have?

Geoff.

The SCR-299/399 were designed to run off 110VAC 60Hz. The PE-95 gas
generator is a 10KW 110v-only unit. I, personally, have never seen a
BC-610 running off 220v. In past discussions with my my Elmer, he
explained that they had SCR-399's on Guam and Saipan and they all ran
off either the PE-95 or "base power" which was 110v 60Hz. Although not
a ham, he was the OIC of the Signal Detachment. Whether the '610 or the
'299/'399 will actually run off 50HZ power, I do not know. The TM's
would seem to indicate not. BTW, the Signal doctrine back then was not
to plan to use, nor depend on, indigenous power sources.

de K3HVG


JB[_3_] April 8th 09 02:14 AM

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AFAIK they were never used in combat in a place that had 117 volt AC

power.

I know that Europe had 220 or 240 volt power, what did the pacific areas

have?

Geoff.

AFAIK they only used the generator as it was designed as a field station.
There probably was no other power where they were usually operated. Just
never meant to rely on shore power. I had heard that it was thought the
electrocution hazard was too great to use 220. I used to have a 1kw AM/RTTY
transmitter made for a later unit that ran on 117 also. Lotsa AMPS. The
10kw generator had a 4 cyl Jeep engine.


Roger Basford April 8th 09 09:34 AM

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"K3HVG" wrote in message
.. .

The SCR-299/399 were designed to run off 110VAC 60Hz. The PE-95 gas
generator is a 10KW 110v-only unit. I, personally, have never seen a
BC-610 running off 220v. In past discussions with my my Elmer, he
explained that they had SCR-399's on Guam and Saipan and they all ran off
either the PE-95 or "base power" which was 110v 60Hz. Although not a ham,
he was the OIC of the Signal Detachment. Whether the '610 or the
'299/'399 will actually run off 50HZ power, I do not know. The TM's would
seem to indicate not. BTW, the Signal doctrine back then was not to plan
to use, nor depend on, indigenous power sources.

de K3HVG


Hi,

I, and a couple of other British BC-610 owners run our TXs from 50Hz mains,
in my case the domestic 230 V is stepped down to 110V using what is called a
"site transformer" - designed for outdoor power tools. The only drawback I
have noticed is the occasional loud rattling from the antenna relay when it
is powered-up, presumably its AC solenoid coil prefers 60Hz. Running the
whole TX off 220V would mean a swap of all power transformers and
mains-powered relays in the equipment, so IMHO it's much better to use a
step-down transformer of some sort to do the job and give additional shock
protection.

73 de G3VKM




Roger Basford April 8th 09 09:39 AM

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"Jon Teske" wrote in message
...

I'm going a vague memory here, but one of the fellows did look like
Bill Halligan who 10 years later was often pictured in Hallicrafter's
ads. I remember he had a two letter suffix in his call and for some
reason I thought it was W9AN.


See www.geocities.com/w8jyz/W9AC.pdf



Scott Dorsey April 8th 09 03:30 PM

Hallicrafter's Tour on Film
 
K3HVG wrote:
The SCR-299/399 were designed to run off 110VAC 60Hz. The PE-95 gas
generator is a 10KW 110v-only unit. I, personally, have never seen a
BC-610 running off 220v. In past discussions with my my Elmer, he
explained that they had SCR-399's on Guam and Saipan and they all ran
off either the PE-95 or "base power" which was 110v 60Hz. Although not
a ham, he was the OIC of the Signal Detachment. Whether the '610 or the
'299/'399 will actually run off 50HZ power, I do not know. The TM's
would seem to indicate not. BTW, the Signal doctrine back then was not
to plan to use, nor depend on, indigenous power sources.


If you go onto an American military base in Germany today, you'll still
see Edison outlets at 110V. Americans have always carried our power with
us wherever we have gone.
--scott

--
"C'est un Nagra. C'est suisse, et tres, tres precis."

mikea April 8th 09 03:36 PM

Hallicrafter's Tour on Film
 
Scott Dorsey wrote in :
K3HVG wrote:
The SCR-299/399 were designed to run off 110VAC 60Hz. The PE-95 gas
generator is a 10KW 110v-only unit. I, personally, have never seen a
BC-610 running off 220v. In past discussions with my my Elmer, he
explained that they had SCR-399's on Guam and Saipan and they all ran
off either the PE-95 or "base power" which was 110v 60Hz. Although not
a ham, he was the OIC of the Signal Detachment. Whether the '610 or the
'299/'399 will actually run off 50HZ power, I do not know. The TM's
would seem to indicate not. BTW, the Signal doctrine back then was not
to plan to use, nor depend on, indigenous power sources.


If you go onto an American military base in Germany today, you'll still
see Edison outlets at 110V. Americans have always carried our power with
us wherever we have gone.


What He Said, regarding bases in ROK, RVN, Thailand, Japan, and other
places I was stationed. We USAF types always take at least one Power
Production type and something to generate 117 (or so) VAC or "220"
(usually 230-240 VAC) at 60 Hz, unless we're out in the boonies and
running off batteries. For the heavy-duty stuff, we always had 480 VAC
3-phase (wye or delta, depending) at 60-Hz.

--
It typically takes 25-30 gallons of petrol/diesel to fully-consume an
average-sized body under ideal conditions. That I am conversant with
this level of detail should serve as an indication of why the wise man
does not ask me questions about MS-Windows. --Tanuki the Raccoon-dog

Scott Dorsey April 8th 09 03:39 PM

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Roger Basford Roger at new-gate dot co dot uk wrote:

I, and a couple of other British BC-610 owners run our TXs from 50Hz mains,
in my case the domestic 230 V is stepped down to 110V using what is called a
"site transformer" - designed for outdoor power tools. The only drawback I
have noticed is the occasional loud rattling from the antenna relay when it
is powered-up, presumably its AC solenoid coil prefers 60Hz. Running the
whole TX off 220V would mean a swap of all power transformers and
mains-powered relays in the equipment, so IMHO it's much better to use a
step-down transformer of some sort to do the job and give additional shock
protection.


Note that most of those construction site transformers are actually
autotransformers and don't give any real isolation. But it's true that
a shock at 110V is less nasty than a shock at 220V.

I'd tend to suggest real isolation transformers with electrostatic
shielding, if only because it prevents RF from getting onto your power
line grounding system and causing interference issues and a changed
antenna pattern.
--scott

--
"C'est un Nagra. C'est suisse, et tres, tres precis."

Geoffrey S. Mendelson April 8th 09 03:41 PM

Hallicrafter's Tour on Film
 
Scott Dorsey wrote:
If you go onto an American military base in Germany today, you'll still
see Edison outlets at 110V. Americans have always carried our power with
us wherever we have gone.


But in the summer of 1944, you would not have found any (110 volt
power or US bases) in Europe. The whole point of the unit was to be
a portable radio station, not something you had to build a base around.

The cost of a "universal" power supply would not have been that
much higher.

Geoff.


--
Geoffrey S. Mendelson, Jerusalem, Israel N3OWJ/4X1GM

Bill M[_2_] April 8th 09 04:12 PM

Hallicrafter's Tour on Film
 
Geoffrey S. Mendelson wrote:
Scott Dorsey wrote:
If you go onto an American military base in Germany today, you'll still
see Edison outlets at 110V. Americans have always carried our power with
us wherever we have gone.


But in the summer of 1944, you would not have found any (110 volt
power or US bases) in Europe. The whole point of the unit was to be
a portable radio station, not something you had to build a base around.


I thought France was still on 110 in those days. I've restored some
French sets both pre and post war, some I think were 110 only.

-Bill

Scott Dorsey April 8th 09 04:30 PM

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Geoffrey S. Mendelson wrote:
Scott Dorsey wrote:
If you go onto an American military base in Germany today, you'll still
see Edison outlets at 110V. Americans have always carried our power with
us wherever we have gone.


But in the summer of 1944, you would not have found any (110 volt
power or US bases) in Europe. The whole point of the unit was to be
a portable radio station, not something you had to build a base around.


Sure you would have! Wherever you have an SCR-299, a tent, and an
infantryman, there you have a military base.

The cost of a "universal" power supply would not have been that
much higher.


True, but not all that useful if you're carrying around a generator
anyway.
--scott
--
"C'est un Nagra. C'est suisse, et tres, tres precis."

Scott Dorsey April 8th 09 04:32 PM

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Bill M wrote:
Geoffrey S. Mendelson wrote:
Scott Dorsey wrote:
If you go onto an American military base in Germany today, you'll still
see Edison outlets at 110V. Americans have always carried our power with
us wherever we have gone.


But in the summer of 1944, you would not have found any (110 volt
power or US bases) in Europe. The whole point of the unit was to be
a portable radio station, not something you had to build a base around.


I thought France was still on 110 in those days. I've restored some
French sets both pre and post war, some I think were 110 only.


France was spotty, with some places being 110 and other places being 220
and a few places having weird line frequencies too. This led to a legacy
of lots of weird incompatible light bulb bases too, which the EU is only
finally getting cleaned up.

Remember, this was an era when there were no large scale power grids,
and individual cities had their own generating plant and their own
standards. Well, Germany started to have a grid, but we took it out....
--scott
--
"C'est un Nagra. C'est suisse, et tres, tres precis."

Richard Knoppow April 9th 09 12:59 AM

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"Scott Dorsey" wrote in message
...
Bill M wrote:
Geoffrey S. Mendelson wrote:
Scott Dorsey wrote:
If you go onto an American military base in Germany
today, you'll still
see Edison outlets at 110V. Americans have always
carried our power with
us wherever we have gone.

But in the summer of 1944, you would not have found any
(110 volt
power or US bases) in Europe. The whole point of the
unit was to be
a portable radio station, not something you had to build
a base around.


I thought France was still on 110 in those days. I've
restored some
French sets both pre and post war, some I think were 110
only.


France was spotty, with some places being 110 and other
places being 220
and a few places having weird line frequencies too. This
led to a legacy
of lots of weird incompatible light bulb bases too, which
the EU is only
finally getting cleaned up.

Remember, this was an era when there were no large scale
power grids,
and individual cities had their own generating plant and
their own
standards. Well, Germany started to have a grid, but we
took it out....
--scott
--
"C'est un Nagra. C'est suisse, et tres, tres precis."


FWIW, the third edition of _Reference Data for Radio
Engineers_ dated 1949 shows France has having DC power at
110, 120, 125, 220 volts and AC at 110, 115, 120, 125, 220,
230 volts and both 50hz and 25hz. It indicates that the
predominant power was 110 or 115 VAC at 50hz.
A this time power frequencies of 25hz, 40hz, 42hz, 43hz,
45hz, 100hz (Malta) could be found in various parts of the
world.
50hz has always been the most common power frequency in
Europe and 60Hz in the USA and Canada. 25hz is used for
industrial purposes, particularly for electric railways
because core losses are lower in motors and transformers
(less heat dissipated). I have no idea of the origin of the
40hz series. Power voltages and frequencies in "third world"
countries usually follows the preferences of the countries
that colonized them.
In the Los Angeles area until about the mid 1950's one
could find both 50hz and 60hz power. The city, which is
supplied by the publicly owned Department of Water and Power
was 60Hz, the outlying areas not incorporated into the city
mostly got their power from Southern California Edision
which was mostly 50Hz. I remember seeing hydro-electric
generators at the old St. Francis power station that were
originally 50Hz but were run overspeed to generate 60hz.
These survived the St. Francis dam collapse and subsequent
flood.


--

--
Richard Knoppow
Los Angeles
WB6KBL




Phred April 9th 09 02:26 AM

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"Richard Knoppow" wrote in message
...

25hz is used for
industrial purposes, particularly for electric railways
because core losses are lower in motors and transformers
(less heat dissipated).



Richard,

I believe the real reason for 25 Hz power near Niagara Falls was the
large number of chlor-alkali plants in the area. The Castner
Electrolytic Alkali Company began operation at Niagara Falls in
1897. Eventually this became the Olin Niachlor plant. Chlor-alkali
plants are a major consumer of electricity, and it was plentiful and
cheap at Niagara Falls. Other companies in the same area with
chlor-alkali plants are DuPont and Hooker (later to be Occidental
Chemical).

The reason for using 25 Hz AC is related to the need for high
current DC for use in the process. In the early days, mechanical
(rotary) rectifiers were used to convert the AC to DC. Essentially
a synchronous motor was used to turn large disks broken into
sections. AC was fed to these disks. Brushes would rub on the disk
producing a unipolar output. Operating at 1500 RPM this system was
quite efficient. But at 50 or 60 Hz, rotating the disks at 3000 or
3600 RPM, the efficiency was less (the off time, essentially the
insulating space between the disk sections, became a larger portion
of the total period) and the brushes wore out faster. Operating at
lower frequencies would have been even more efficient but
transformer size became excessive.

Unfortunately the early electrolytic cells used mercury for one
electrode leading to a major pollution problem. You might recognize
the name Hooker Chemical from their waste being dumped in the Love
Canal.

73, Dr. Barry L. Ornitz WA4VZQ


Jon Teske April 9th 09 08:55 PM

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On Wed, 8 Apr 2009 09:39:03 +0100, "Roger Basford" Roger at new-gate
dot co dot uk wrote:


"Jon Teske" wrote in message
.. .

I'm going a vague memory here, but one of the fellows did look like
Bill Halligan who 10 years later was often pictured in Hallicrafter's
ads. I remember he had a two letter suffix in his call and for some
reason I thought it was W9AN.


See www.geocities.com/w8jyz/W9AC.pdf

Thanks Roger for that link. I wonder how he pulled off that two letter
call suffix having had a three letter one before. That must have been
quite rare or perhaps some sort of "reward" for his WW II engineering
service. I have no idea how that worked in those days. By the time I
got into radio (1956 as a teen) two letter suffixes were VERY rare in
the US until they became available as a sort of reward for having the
Extra Class and a certain amount of longevity. Later they became
available as a "vanity" program in conjuction with holding certain
classes of license. 1X2 calls don't seem to become available very
often now.

Allowing for changes in eyeglasses and a bit of aging, it does appear
that the fellow pictured in your link is the same guy I think was
Halligan in the movie. I knew one fellow who had worked with him
during the war and he said that Bill Halligan was a real gentleman and
a brilliant engineer.

Jon Teske, W3JT

Jon Teske April 10th 09 08:52 PM

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On Wed, 8 Apr 2009 21:26:07 -0400, "Phred" wrote:

"Richard Knoppow" wrote in message
...

25hz is used for
industrial purposes, particularly for electric railways
because core losses are lower in motors and transformers
(less heat dissipated).



Richard,

I believe the real reason for 25 Hz power near Niagara Falls was the
large number of chlor-alkali plants in the area. The Castner
Electrolytic Alkali Company began operation at Niagara Falls in
1897. Eventually this became the Olin Niachlor plant. Chlor-alkali
plants are a major consumer of electricity, and it was plentiful and
cheap at Niagara Falls. Other companies in the same area with
chlor-alkali plants are DuPont and Hooker (later to be Occidental
Chemical).

The reason for using 25 Hz AC is related to the need for high
current DC for use in the process. In the early days, mechanical
(rotary) rectifiers were used to convert the AC to DC. Essentially
a synchronous motor was used to turn large disks broken into
sections. AC was fed to these disks. Brushes would rub on the disk
producing a unipolar output. Operating at 1500 RPM this system was
quite efficient. But at 50 or 60 Hz, rotating the disks at 3000 or
3600 RPM, the efficiency was less (the off time, essentially the
insulating space between the disk sections, became a larger portion
of the total period) and the brushes wore out faster. Operating at
lower frequencies would have been even more efficient but
transformer size became excessive.

Unfortunately the early electrolytic cells used mercury for one
electrode leading to a major pollution problem. You might recognize
the name Hooker Chemical from their waste being dumped in the Love
Canal.

73, Dr. Barry L. Ornitz WA4VZQ


I vaguely remember my father (an electrician) telling me that power at
the very beginning of WW II in the Gary Indiana area was 25 Hz.

Does anyone know anything about that? Would the presence of steel
mills and other heavy industry have anything to do with it.

I have no reason to doubt what my father had said (but I can't ask
him anymore.)

Were there other places in the US that had non standard Hz. Also I'd
be interested in knowing when 60 Hz became the US standard and why?

The Gary, Hammond, East Chicago area and Southern parts of nearby
Chicago is, of course, one of the more heavily industrialized areas in
the US, or at least it was in the first half of the 20th century. Gary
(which happens to be my birthplace though I only lived there 10 weeks,
at the beginning of WW II) was founded specifically as a "Company
Town" in 1906 for US Steel and is named for an early president of the
company.


Jon Teske, W3JT [And as I found out on the only visit I ever made to
Gary aside from bypassing it on the tollways when I stopped to get an
Indiana Birth Certificate, my claim to fame is that I was born in the
same hospital as the Jackson family kids...Michael, Janet, Tito etc.

Sheesh! ]

Jim[_7_] April 18th 09 04:53 PM

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Anybody notice any audio-video sync problems in the MP4
version? I tried two different players and the track was
way off.

I'm going to download the MPeg2 version and see how that plays...

Jim





On Sat, 4 Apr 2009 18:30:48 -0700, "Richard Knoppow"
wrote:

I found a tour of the Hallicrafter's plant on line.
This is a WW-2 propaganda film, dated 1944 and titled "Voice
of Victory". In two parts at http://www.archive.org
It has considerable detail on the construction of the
BC-610 and shows some other products in somewhat less
detail.



Paul P[_2_] April 18th 09 07:58 PM

Hallicrafter's Tour on Film
 

"Jim" wrote in message
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Anybody notice any audio-video sync problems in the MP4
version? I tried two different players and the track was
way off.

So is my Verizon Fiber TV box running my NTSC TV.

Paul P.


Geoffrey S. Mendelson April 18th 09 08:46 PM

Hallicrafter's Tour on Film
 
Jim wrote:
Anybody notice any audio-video sync problems in the MP4
version? I tried two different players and the track was
way off.


How can you tell? From what I remembered and a quick review, the only
place there could be synchronized sound is at the begining with the
ham who was later identifed as the chief engineer of Halicrafters
(Samuelson) "on the air" and the speech at the end of the second part
by the head of the Signal Corps.

They were both fine with my playing them using QuickTime player and VLC
under MacOS.

Geoff.

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Geoffrey S. Mendelson, Jerusalem, Israel N3OWJ/4X1GM

Geoffrey S. Mendelson April 23rd 09 10:34 AM

Hallicrafter's Tour on Film
 
http://library.duke.edu/digitalcolle...R0111-lrg.jpeg


Looks like their letterhead circa 1945.

Geoff.
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Geoffrey S. Mendelson, Jerusalem, Israel N3OWJ/4X1GM

Richard Knoppow April 25th 09 10:26 PM

Hallicrafter's Tour on Film
 

"Geoffrey S. Mendelson" wrote in message
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http://library.duke.edu/digitalcolle...R0111-lrg.jpeg


Looks like their letterhead circa 1945.

Geoff.
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Geoffrey S. Mendelson, Jerusalem, Israel
N3OWJ/4X1GM


Sure does look like a letterhead although letterheads
usually also have phone numbers and cable addresses on them.
There is a copyright notice below the word "radio"
indicating 1945 and the pictures feature the mobile radio
station from the movie (forgot the SCR number) with an E for
Efficiency banner, also the SX-28, probably the best known H
product of the time.
I wonder what the original source was.

--
Richard Knoppow
Los Angeles
WB6KBL





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