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Jerry Stuckle November 30th 14 01:23 AM

High brightness LEDs?
 
On 11/29/2014 1:20 PM, wrote:
In rec.radio.amateur.boatanchors Jerry Stuckle wrote:
On 11/29/2014 4:30 AM, Rob wrote:
Jerry Stuckle wrote:
For incandescent, yes. But not for LED bulbs. If that were the case,
why would some LED bulbs be dimmable and others not?

"is it dimmable" refers to the use of a phase-cut TRIAC dimmer in combination
with a retrofit LED bulb designed to run on mains power.


No, some bulbs are not dimmable, period. Some are. None work reliably
with triac dimmer controls.


According to independant reviews by people NOT selling light bulbs, some
manufacturers bulbs do.

The ones you are selling do not.


Independent reviews by untrained people are worth exactly what you paid
for them.

Keep reading the funny pages. They're your speed.

snip

It's going to be years (if ever) before such standards are created for
the residential market. There are too many reasons to stick with 117V
wiring.


The standards are being actively developed and have nothing to do with
altering the wiring voltage and everything to do with dimmer and bulb
technology.




And exactly who is "developing" these standards? References?

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[email protected] November 30th 14 03:16 AM

High brightness LEDs?
 
In rec.radio.amateur.boatanchors Jerry Stuckle wrote:
On 11/29/2014 12:55 PM, wrote:
In rec.radio.amateur.boatanchors Jerry Stuckle wrote:
On 11/29/2014 1:09 AM,
wrote:
In rec.radio.amateur.boatanchors Jerry Stuckle wrote:

snip

"No, unlike incandescent bulbs that work with almost any dimmer, LED and
CFL bulbs perform differently depending on the dimmer you install. You
will need to select a dimmer designed specifically for dimmable LED/CFL
bulbs."

Not if you use Phillips bulbs.

http://www.cnet.com/news/which-led-l...t-for-dimming/

snip remainder



And exactly what are the qualifications of the author? A "text-based
adventure connoisseur"?

I'll believe the engineers who design dimmers, not the funny pages.


Yes, you will believe the engineers from the company whose bulbs and
dimmers you sell; you kind of have to.


No, I don't. I believe them because they are correct. If I didn't
believe them, we wouldn't sell their product.


Oh course you wouldn't.

There are lots of INDEPENDANT reviews out there that do NOT hold the
same views you do.


Independent reviews by untrained people are worth exactly what you paid
for them.


And of course anyone that disgrees with you is untrained.

Keep reading the funny pages. They're your speed.


And of course any independant reviewer that disagrees with you is the
"funny pages".


--
Jim Pennino

[email protected] November 30th 14 03:19 AM

High brightness LEDs?
 
In rec.radio.amateur.boatanchors Jerry Stuckle wrote:
On 11/29/2014 1:06 PM, wrote:
In rec.radio.amateur.boatanchors Jerry Stuckle wrote:

snip

If they lied in their statements, the FTC would be after them in a
second. They are very aggressive about such things.


Only if people complain first or if the statements are blatent and
very visible as on TV.


Incorrect. The FTC takes actions on their own quite often.

I did not say they lied, which is irrelevant, as they were only talking
about their products.


Either they are correct or they lied. Which one is it?


They were correct in what they said about their own products, but that
is irrelevant.

The bottom line is that it was implied that something you did, used, made,
worked with, said, observed, or in this case, sold, was less than perfect,
at which point you went off into one of your usual rages.

Once the rage starts, the other person is a troll, an anonymous troll, a
liar, ignorant, stupid and a few other of your usual ad hominem responses.

Now you are calling those doing independant reviews the funny pages.

Once the rage really gets going, you start interpreting what the other
person says as having the opposite meaning to what was said and saying
the other person said things that were never said, just like the "correct
or lied" statement above.

During the rage you go off onto tangets based on your misinterpretation of
the other persons responses that can only be seen though your blood lust
filled eyes.

The rage will often continue across topics and sometimes even groups
as blood lust within you boils over.

This will continue until everyone else gives up and you have the last
word.

You are just a thin skinned, egomaniacal playground bully with delusions
of perfection.

--
Jim Pennino

[email protected] November 30th 14 03:22 AM

High brightness LEDs?
 
In rec.radio.amateur.boatanchors Jerry Stuckle wrote:
On 11/29/2014 1:33 PM, wrote:
In rec.radio.amateur.boatanchors Jerry Stuckle wrote:

snip

If you must know, Phillips is not considered one of the top brands in
the U.S.


Yeah, they must be trolls.


You said it, not me.

snip

Oh no? ROFLMAO! Who do you think first developed LED bulbs? Here's a
hint: it wasn't Phillips.


Hint:

The Energy Independence and Security Act (EISA) of 2007 authorized the
Department of Energy (DOE) to establish the Bright Tomorrow Lighting
Prize competition, known as the "L Prize".

On 3 August 2011, DOE awarded the prize in the 60 W replacement category
to a Philips' LED lamp after 18 months of extensive testing.


Yes, but they did not develop the LED bulb. You obviously are not
reading, and arguing for argument's sake.


Neither inventing nor developing something is worth a lot unless you can
actually manufacture it. Witness the failure of the Wright Bros. airplane
company.

snip

Nope. There is no analog TV in the United States.


Tell that to the FCC who is allowing analog stations until Septempber,
2015.


--
Jim Pennino

[email protected] November 30th 14 03:25 AM

High brightness LEDs?
 
In rec.radio.amateur.boatanchors Jerry Stuckle wrote:
On 11/29/2014 1:20 PM, wrote:
In rec.radio.amateur.boatanchors Jerry Stuckle wrote:
On 11/29/2014 4:30 AM, Rob wrote:
Jerry Stuckle wrote:
For incandescent, yes. But not for LED bulbs. If that were the case,
why would some LED bulbs be dimmable and others not?

"is it dimmable" refers to the use of a phase-cut TRIAC dimmer in combination
with a retrofit LED bulb designed to run on mains power.


No, some bulbs are not dimmable, period. Some are. None work reliably
with triac dimmer controls.


According to independant reviews by people NOT selling light bulbs, some
manufacturers bulbs do.

The ones you are selling do not.


Independent reviews by untrained people are worth exactly what you paid
for them.

Keep reading the funny pages. They're your speed.


Yep, anyone that disagrees with you is untrained and anywhere it is published
something that disagrees with you is funny papers.

snip

It's going to be years (if ever) before such standards are created for
the residential market. There are too many reasons to stick with 117V
wiring.


The standards are being actively developed and have nothing to do with
altering the wiring voltage and everything to do with dimmer and bulb
technology.


And exactly who is "developing" these standards? References?


I thought you were supposed to be an expert in light bulbs?

If you actually knew anything about such you would know what the
standards groups are.

--
Jim Pennino

Jerry Stuckle November 30th 14 03:33 AM

High brightness LEDs?
 
On 11/29/2014 10:16 PM, wrote:
In rec.radio.amateur.boatanchors Jerry Stuckle wrote:
On 11/29/2014 12:55 PM,
wrote:
In rec.radio.amateur.boatanchors Jerry Stuckle wrote:
On 11/29/2014 1:09 AM,
wrote:
In rec.radio.amateur.boatanchors Jerry Stuckle wrote:

snip

"No, unlike incandescent bulbs that work with almost any dimmer, LED and
CFL bulbs perform differently depending on the dimmer you install. You
will need to select a dimmer designed specifically for dimmable LED/CFL
bulbs."

Not if you use Phillips bulbs.

http://www.cnet.com/news/which-led-l...t-for-dimming/

snip remainder



And exactly what are the qualifications of the author? A "text-based
adventure connoisseur"?

I'll believe the engineers who design dimmers, not the funny pages.

Yes, you will believe the engineers from the company whose bulbs and
dimmers you sell; you kind of have to.


No, I don't. I believe them because they are correct. If I didn't
believe them, we wouldn't sell their product.


Oh course you wouldn't.

There are lots of INDEPENDANT reviews out there that do NOT hold the
same views you do.


Independent reviews by untrained people are worth exactly what you paid
for them.


And of course anyone that disgrees with you is untrained.


And what are the qualifications of the guy who wrote the blog? A
"text-based adventure connoisseur"? Some qualifications! Where's his
engineering degree? His experience in test labs?

Keep reading the funny pages. They're your speed.


And of course any independant reviewer that disagrees with you is the
"funny pages".



Any UNQUALIFIED reviewer is in the funny pages. And they are right at
your speed.

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Jerry Stuckle November 30th 14 03:37 AM

High brightness LEDs?
 
On 11/29/2014 10:19 PM, wrote:
In rec.radio.amateur.boatanchors Jerry Stuckle wrote:
On 11/29/2014 1:06 PM,
wrote:
In rec.radio.amateur.boatanchors Jerry Stuckle wrote:

snip

If they lied in their statements, the FTC would be after them in a
second. They are very aggressive about such things.

Only if people complain first or if the statements are blatent and
very visible as on TV.


Incorrect. The FTC takes actions on their own quite often.

I did not say they lied, which is irrelevant, as they were only talking
about their products.


Either they are correct or they lied. Which one is it?


They were correct in what they said about their own products, but that
is irrelevant.


Then you admit they were correct.

The bottom line is that it was implied that something you did, used, made,
worked with, said, observed, or in this case, sold, was less than perfect,
at which point you went off into one of your usual rages.


Nope, no rage here, Jimmy. But once again you've lost it. Just like
you always do, when you can't argue facts, you start with the adhominim
attacks.

Once the rage starts, the other person is a troll, an anonymous troll, a
liar, ignorant, stupid and a few other of your usual ad hominem responses.


You're the one with the attacks.

Now you are calling those doing independant reviews the funny pages.


Because that's what they are. Show me the qualifications of the author.

Once the rage really gets going, you start interpreting what the other
person says as having the opposite meaning to what was said and saying
the other person said things that were never said, just like the "correct
or lied" statement above.


Nope, just quoting what YOU said, Jimmy. But once again, you're off on
your usual tangent when you can't argue the facts.

During the rage you go off onto tangets based on your misinterpretation of
the other persons responses that can only be seen though your blood lust
filled eyes.


I'm not the one on a tangent, Jimmy. I've kept on topic. You're the
one with the ad hominim attacks.

The rage will often continue across topics and sometimes even groups
as blood lust within you boils over.

This will continue until everyone else gives up and you have the last
word.

You are just a thin skinned, egomaniacal playground bully with delusions
of perfection.


Once again you show you've lost it, Jimmy.

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Jerry, AI0K

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Jerry Stuckle November 30th 14 03:42 AM

High brightness LEDs?
 
On 11/29/2014 10:22 PM, wrote:
In rec.radio.amateur.boatanchors Jerry Stuckle wrote:
On 11/29/2014 1:33 PM,
wrote:
In rec.radio.amateur.boatanchors Jerry Stuckle wrote:

snip

If you must know, Phillips is not considered one of the top brands in
the U.S.

Yeah, they must be trolls.


You said it, not me.

snip

Oh no? ROFLMAO! Who do you think first developed LED bulbs? Here's a
hint: it wasn't Phillips.

Hint:

The Energy Independence and Security Act (EISA) of 2007 authorized the
Department of Energy (DOE) to establish the Bright Tomorrow Lighting
Prize competition, known as the "L Prize".

On 3 August 2011, DOE awarded the prize in the 60 W replacement category
to a Philips' LED lamp after 18 months of extensive testing.


Yes, but they did not develop the LED bulb. You obviously are not
reading, and arguing for argument's sake.


Neither inventing nor developing something is worth a lot unless you can
actually manufacture it. Witness the failure of the Wright Bros. airplane
company.


Which is completely immaterial. The topic was development of LED light
bulbs. But you can't stay on topic, as usual.


snip

Nope. There is no analog TV in the United States.


Tell that to the FCC who is allowing analog stations until Septempber,
2015.



A few low power stations, with range in the single digits of miles.
Hardly worth commenting on. Nothing worth commenting about, because the
number of people who can receive them is so low.

Effectively the entire country has converted to digital.

And it has nothing to do with the 70 meter band, as indicated in the
FCC's denial of the petition.

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Jerry Stuckle November 30th 14 03:44 AM

High brightness LEDs?
 
On 11/29/2014 10:25 PM, wrote:
In rec.radio.amateur.boatanchors Jerry Stuckle wrote:
On 11/29/2014 1:20 PM,
wrote:
In rec.radio.amateur.boatanchors Jerry Stuckle wrote:
On 11/29/2014 4:30 AM, Rob wrote:
Jerry Stuckle wrote:
For incandescent, yes. But not for LED bulbs. If that were the case,
why would some LED bulbs be dimmable and others not?

"is it dimmable" refers to the use of a phase-cut TRIAC dimmer in combination
with a retrofit LED bulb designed to run on mains power.


No, some bulbs are not dimmable, period. Some are. None work reliably
with triac dimmer controls.

According to independant reviews by people NOT selling light bulbs, some
manufacturers bulbs do.

The ones you are selling do not.


Independent reviews by untrained people are worth exactly what you paid
for them.

Keep reading the funny pages. They're your speed.


Yep, anyone that disagrees with you is untrained and anywhere it is published
something that disagrees with you is funny papers.


And what are the qualifications of the guy who wrote the blog? A
"text-based adventure connoisseur"? Some qualifications! Where's his
engineering degree? His experience in test labs?

Keep reading the funny pages, Jimmy. They're right up your alley.

snip

It's going to be years (if ever) before such standards are created for
the residential market. There are too many reasons to stick with 117V
wiring.

The standards are being actively developed and have nothing to do with
altering the wiring voltage and everything to do with dimmer and bulb
technology.


And exactly who is "developing" these standards? References?


I thought you were supposed to be an expert in light bulbs?

If you actually knew anything about such you would know what the
standards groups are.


No, I'm asking YOU - exactly who is "developing" these standards?
References? IOW, support your claim.

But you can't, because once again you have no idea what you're talking
about.

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Scott Dorsey November 30th 14 05:36 AM

High brightness LEDs?
 
Jerry Stuckle wrote:
On 11/28/2014 11:11 PM, Scott Dorsey wrote:
Jerry Stuckle wrote:
No, these have electronic power supplies in them. Otherwise they would
dissipate huge amounts of heat. Think about it. LED's run at about 3V.
That means a 9W LED requires about 3 amps of power. 3 amps at 240V is
720W - or about 711W of power wasted. They would be way less efficient
than any other type of bulbs. Plus LED's run on DC and would not work
as efficiently on 50Hz AC.


9W is an enormous amount of power for an LED. The LEDs used to replace
pilot lamps are normally running 10mA, not 3 amps. This is what allows
a dropping resistor to be used.


You are confusing LEDs with LED bulbs. A 9W LED bulb is equivalent to
about a 60W incandescent bulb.


Ahh, I thought you were talking about the high intensity LED replacements
for incandescent pilot lamps. Not the household bulb replacements. The
house lamp replacements have switchers in them.
--scott
--
"C'est un Nagra. C'est suisse, et tres, tres precis."

[email protected] November 30th 14 06:00 AM

High brightness LEDs?
 
In rec.radio.amateur.boatanchors Jerry Stuckle wrote:
On 11/29/2014 10:16 PM, wrote:
In rec.radio.amateur.boatanchors Jerry Stuckle wrote:
On 11/29/2014 12:55 PM,
wrote:
In rec.radio.amateur.boatanchors Jerry Stuckle wrote:
On 11/29/2014 1:09 AM,
wrote:
In rec.radio.amateur.boatanchors Jerry Stuckle wrote:

snip

"No, unlike incandescent bulbs that work with almost any dimmer, LED and
CFL bulbs perform differently depending on the dimmer you install. You
will need to select a dimmer designed specifically for dimmable LED/CFL
bulbs."

Not if you use Phillips bulbs.

http://www.cnet.com/news/which-led-l...t-for-dimming/

snip remainder



And exactly what are the qualifications of the author? A "text-based
adventure connoisseur"?

I'll believe the engineers who design dimmers, not the funny pages.

Yes, you will believe the engineers from the company whose bulbs and
dimmers you sell; you kind of have to.


No, I don't. I believe them because they are correct. If I didn't
believe them, we wouldn't sell their product.


Oh course you wouldn't.

There are lots of INDEPENDANT reviews out there that do NOT hold the
same views you do.


Independent reviews by untrained people are worth exactly what you paid
for them.


And of course anyone that disgrees with you is untrained.


And what are the qualifications of the guy who wrote the blog? A
"text-based adventure connoisseur"? Some qualifications! Where's his
engineering degree? His experience in test labs?

Keep reading the funny pages. They're your speed.


And of course any independant reviewer that disagrees with you is the
"funny pages".



Any UNQUALIFIED reviewer is in the funny pages. And they are right at
your speed.


My god you are the poster boy for megalomania.



--
Jim Pennino

[email protected] November 30th 14 06:02 AM

High brightness LEDs?
 
In rec.radio.amateur.boatanchors Jerry Stuckle wrote:
On 11/29/2014 10:22 PM, wrote:
In rec.radio.amateur.boatanchors Jerry Stuckle wrote:


snip

Nope. There is no analog TV in the United States.


snip

A few low power stations, with range in the single digits of miles.


So there is analog TV in the US.


--
Jim Pennino

atec77[_3_] November 30th 14 09:15 AM

High brightness LEDs?
 
On 30/11/2014 4:00 PM, wrote:
In rec.radio.amateur.boatanchors Jerry Stuckle wrote:
On 11/29/2014 10:16 PM,
wrote:
In rec.radio.amateur.boatanchors Jerry Stuckle jstucklex@a
Keep reading the funny pages. They're your speed.

And of course any independant reviewer that disagrees with you is the
"funny pages".



Any UNQUALIFIED reviewer is in the funny pages. And they are right at
your speed.


My god you are the poster boy for megalomania.


in this part of the world he would be described as a ****** , seems to
fit rather well
why ****** ?
well goal post moving and constant rebuttal of the truth with
fallacious claims tend to suggest ****** is on the money






Jerry Stuckle November 30th 14 03:15 PM

High brightness LEDs?
 
On 11/30/2014 1:00 AM, wrote:
In rec.radio.amateur.boatanchors Jerry Stuckle wrote:
On 11/29/2014 10:16 PM,
wrote:
In rec.radio.amateur.boatanchors Jerry Stuckle wrote:
On 11/29/2014 12:55 PM,
wrote:
In rec.radio.amateur.boatanchors Jerry Stuckle wrote:
On 11/29/2014 1:09 AM,
wrote:
In rec.radio.amateur.boatanchors Jerry Stuckle wrote:

snip

"No, unlike incandescent bulbs that work with almost any dimmer, LED and
CFL bulbs perform differently depending on the dimmer you install. You
will need to select a dimmer designed specifically for dimmable LED/CFL
bulbs."

Not if you use Phillips bulbs.

http://www.cnet.com/news/which-led-l...t-for-dimming/

snip remainder



And exactly what are the qualifications of the author? A "text-based
adventure connoisseur"?

I'll believe the engineers who design dimmers, not the funny pages.

Yes, you will believe the engineers from the company whose bulbs and
dimmers you sell; you kind of have to.


No, I don't. I believe them because they are correct. If I didn't
believe them, we wouldn't sell their product.

Oh course you wouldn't.

There are lots of INDEPENDANT reviews out there that do NOT hold the
same views you do.


Independent reviews by untrained people are worth exactly what you paid
for them.

And of course anyone that disgrees with you is untrained.


And what are the qualifications of the guy who wrote the blog? A
"text-based adventure connoisseur"? Some qualifications! Where's his
engineering degree? His experience in test labs?

Keep reading the funny pages. They're your speed.

And of course any independant reviewer that disagrees with you is the
"funny pages".



Any UNQUALIFIED reviewer is in the funny pages. And they are right at
your speed.


My god you are the poster boy for megalomania.




ROFLMAO!

Show me a QUALIFIED reviewer, not someone who is a "text-based adventure
connoisseur". But you can't, because there isn't one who agrees with
your delusions.

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Jerry Stuckle November 30th 14 03:18 PM

High brightness LEDs?
 
On 11/30/2014 4:15 AM, the well-known troll atec77 wrote:
On 30/11/2014 4:00 PM, wrote:
In rec.radio.amateur.boatanchors Jerry Stuckle
wrote:
On 11/29/2014 10:16 PM,
wrote:
In rec.radio.amateur.boatanchors Jerry Stuckle jstucklex@a
Keep reading the funny pages. They're your speed.

And of course any independant reviewer that disagrees with you is the
"funny pages".



Any UNQUALIFIED reviewer is in the funny pages. And they are right at
your speed.


My god you are the poster boy for megalomania.


in this part of the world he would be described as a ****** , seems to
fit rather well
why ****** ?
well goal post moving and constant rebuttal of the truth with
fallacious claims tend to suggest ****** is on the money






Ah, another well-known troll has to make a fool of himself. Why don't
you go back to aus.pay.tv? How about aus.legal? Maybe aus.hi-fi? Or
aus.radio.amateur.misc? You're well known as a troll there, also.

Are you trying to set a record for the number of groups you troll?

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Jerry Stuckle November 30th 14 03:21 PM

High brightness LEDs?
 
On 11/30/2014 1:02 AM, wrote:
In rec.radio.amateur.boatanchors Jerry Stuckle wrote:
On 11/29/2014 10:22 PM,
wrote:
In rec.radio.amateur.boatanchors Jerry Stuckle wrote:


snip

Nope. There is no analog TV in the United States.


snip

A few low power stations, with range in the single digits of miles.


So there is analog TV in the US.



There are a few special purpose stations with very limited coverage
which have been allowed to operate for a few more months. That does not
mean any of them are still operating, however.

But it does mean, for all intent purposes, that analog TV is gone. But
once again you show your stoopidity in not understanding that.

Can you name any stations which are still operating?

I didn't think so.

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[email protected] November 30th 14 06:22 PM

High brightness LEDs?
 
In rec.radio.amateur.boatanchors Jerry Stuckle wrote:
On 11/30/2014 1:00 AM, wrote:
In rec.radio.amateur.boatanchors Jerry Stuckle wrote:


snip

Any UNQUALIFIED reviewer is in the funny pages. And they are right at
your speed.


My god you are the poster boy for megalomania.




ROFLMAO!

Show me a QUALIFIED reviewer, not someone who is a "text-based adventure
connoisseur". But you can't, because there isn't one who agrees with
your delusions.


One does not need to know how to design something to test something,
you megalomaniac.

I could waste my time finding lots of independant reports by lots of
independant sources but since they woud disagree with what the Great
and Mighty Jerry Stuckle, Fountain of all Knowledge that is True and
seller of light bulbs, you would just call them funny papers and the
writers incompetant.




--
Jim Pennino

[email protected] November 30th 14 06:28 PM

High brightness LEDs?
 
In rec.radio.amateur.boatanchors Jerry Stuckle wrote:
On 11/30/2014 1:02 AM, wrote:
In rec.radio.amateur.boatanchors Jerry Stuckle wrote:
On 11/29/2014 10:22 PM,
wrote:
In rec.radio.amateur.boatanchors Jerry Stuckle wrote:


snip

Nope. There is no analog TV in the United States.


snip

A few low power stations, with range in the single digits of miles.


So there is analog TV in the US.



There are a few special purpose stations


So there is analog TV in the US.

That would seem to contridict your statement of "There is no analog TV
in the United States."

Can it be the Great and Mighty Jerry Stuckle, font of all knowledge,
keeper of all that is true, expert on everything, and seller of light
bulbs was, gasp!, wrong?

There is great rending of garments and wails of despair across the
land.


--
Jim Pennino

Jerry Stuckle November 30th 14 07:53 PM

High brightness LEDs?
 
On 11/30/2014 1:22 PM, wrote:
In rec.radio.amateur.boatanchors Jerry Stuckle wrote:
On 11/30/2014 1:00 AM,
wrote:
In rec.radio.amateur.boatanchors Jerry Stuckle wrote:


snip

Any UNQUALIFIED reviewer is in the funny pages. And they are right at
your speed.

My god you are the poster boy for megalomania.




ROFLMAO!

Show me a QUALIFIED reviewer, not someone who is a "text-based adventure
connoisseur". But you can't, because there isn't one who agrees with
your delusions.


One does not need to know how to design something to test something,
you megalomaniac.

I could waste my time finding lots of independant reports by lots of
independant sources but since they woud disagree with what the Great
and Mighty Jerry Stuckle, Fountain of all Knowledge that is True and
seller of light bulbs, you would just call them funny papers and the
writers incompetant.





Show me a QUALIFIED reviewer, not someone who is a "text-based adventure
connoisseur". But you can't, because there isn't one who agrees with
your delusions.

But you're too caught up in your ad hominim attacks, and are unable to
find a qualified reviewer who agrees with you - because they don't.

I'll bed your "text-based adventure connisseur" doesn't even know the
difference between a watt and a joule.

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Jerry Stuckle November 30th 14 07:54 PM

High brightness LEDs?
 
On 11/30/2014 1:28 PM, wrote:
In rec.radio.amateur.boatanchors Jerry Stuckle wrote:
On 11/30/2014 1:02 AM,
wrote:
In rec.radio.amateur.boatanchors Jerry Stuckle wrote:
On 11/29/2014 10:22 PM,
wrote:
In rec.radio.amateur.boatanchors Jerry Stuckle wrote:

snip

Nope. There is no analog TV in the United States.

snip

A few low power stations, with range in the single digits of miles.

So there is analog TV in the US.



There are a few special purpose stations


So there is analog TV in the US.

That would seem to contridict your statement of "There is no analog TV
in the United States."

Can it be the Great and Mighty Jerry Stuckle, font of all knowledge,
keeper of all that is true, expert on everything, and seller of light
bulbs was, gasp!, wrong?

There is great rending of garments and wails of despair across the
land.



There is the AUTHORITY for them to continue for a few more months. Can
you name even ONE still broadcasting?

Of course, you can't. That's why you snipped my question from the last
post.

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[email protected] November 30th 14 08:25 PM

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In rec.radio.amateur.boatanchors Jerry Stuckle wrote:

The usual, raging, megalomaniac, rant calling all others with any viewpoint
contrary to his incompetent, trolls, liers, etc.


--
Jim Pennino

[email protected] November 30th 14 08:28 PM

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In rec.radio.amateur.boatanchors Jerry Stuckle wrote:

Yet more megalomaniacal ranting caused by others disagreeing that Jerry
Stuckles knows everything and is ALWAYS correct, even when he is not.

I guess I should say I did mispeak; the remaining analog TV stations are
not "the reason" the FCC denied the 4M band petition, they are one of the
reasons.


--
Jim Pennino

Jerry Stuckle November 30th 14 08:32 PM

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On 11/30/2014 3:25 PM, wrote:
In rec.radio.amateur.boatanchors Jerry Stuckle wrote:

The usual, raging, megalomaniac, rant calling all others with any viewpoint
contrary to his incompetent, trolls, liers, etc.



Lost it again, Jimmy? When you run out of valid arguments, you have to
resort to ad hominim attacks? Who called people trolls and liers (sic)
here? Hint: it wasn't I.

Show me a QUALIFIED reviewer, not someone who is a "text-based adventure
connoisseur". But you can't, because there isn't one who agrees with
your delusions.

But you're too caught up in your ad hominim attacks, and are unable to
find a qualified reviewer who agrees with you - because they don't.

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Jerry, AI0K

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Jerry Stuckle November 30th 14 08:36 PM

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On 11/30/2014 3:28 PM, wrote:
In rec.radio.amateur.boatanchors Jerry Stuckle wrote:

Yet more megalomaniacal ranting caused by others disagreeing that Jerry
Stuckles knows everything and is ALWAYS correct, even when he is not.

I guess I should say I did mispeak; the remaining analog TV stations are
not "the reason" the FCC denied the 4M band petition, they are one of the
reasons.



Lost it again, Jimmy? When you run out of valid arguments, you have to
resort to ad hominim attacks? Who called people trolls and liers (sic)
here? Hint: it wasn't I.

Can you name even ONE analog TV station still broadcasting? Of course,
you can't, which is why you keep snipping my question and refuse to
answer it.

What about the organization you claim is establishing standards for LED
bulbs? You haven't proven that claim, either. In fact, you've claimed
a lot of things you haven't proven.

--
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Remove the "x" from my email address
Jerry, AI0K

==================

[email protected] November 30th 14 10:07 PM

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In rec.radio.amateur.boatanchors Jerry Stuckle wrote:
On 11/30/2014 3:25 PM, wrote:
In rec.radio.amateur.boatanchors Jerry Stuckle wrote:

The usual, raging, megalomaniac, rant calling all others with any viewpoint
contrary to his incompetent, trolls, liers, etc.



Lost it again, Jimmy? When you run out of valid arguments, you have to
resort to ad hominim attacks? Who called people trolls and liers


It would be trivial to find thousands of your posts where you call people
trolls and liars, you raving megalomaniac.

Which group should we start with?



--
Jim Pennino

[email protected] November 30th 14 10:09 PM

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In rec.radio.amateur.boatanchors Jerry Stuckle wrote:
On 11/30/2014 3:28 PM, wrote:
In rec.radio.amateur.boatanchors Jerry Stuckle wrote:

Yet more megalomaniacal ranting caused by others disagreeing that Jerry
Stuckles knows everything and is ALWAYS correct, even when he is not.

I guess I should say I did mispeak; the remaining analog TV stations are
not "the reason" the FCC denied the 4M band petition, they are one of the
reasons.



Lost it again, Jimmy? When you run out of valid arguments, you have to
resort to ad hominim attacks? Who called people trolls and liers


As I stated before, it would be trivial to find thousands of your posts
where you call people trolls and liars. Any particular group you would
like to start with, you megalomaniacal ass hole?


--
Jim Pennino

Jerry Stuckle November 30th 14 10:23 PM

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On 11/30/2014 5:07 PM, wrote:
In rec.radio.amateur.boatanchors Jerry Stuckle wrote:
On 11/30/2014 3:25 PM,
wrote:
In rec.radio.amateur.boatanchors Jerry Stuckle wrote:

The usual, raging, megalomaniac, rant calling all others with any viewpoint
contrary to his incompetent, trolls, liers, etc.



Lost it again, Jimmy? When you run out of valid arguments, you have to
resort to ad hominim attacks? Who called people trolls and liers


It would be trivial to find thousands of your posts where you call people
trolls and liars, you raving megalomaniac.

Which group should we start with?


Lost it again, Jimmy? When you run out of valid arguments, you have to
resort to ad hominim attacks? Who called people trolls and liers (sic).

--
==================
Remove the "x" from my email address
Jerry, AI0K

==================

Jerry Stuckle November 30th 14 10:23 PM

High brightness LEDs?
 
On 11/30/2014 5:09 PM, wrote:
In rec.radio.amateur.boatanchors Jerry Stuckle wrote:
On 11/30/2014 3:28 PM,
wrote:
In rec.radio.amateur.boatanchors Jerry Stuckle wrote:

Yet more megalomaniacal ranting caused by others disagreeing that Jerry
Stuckles knows everything and is ALWAYS correct, even when he is not.

I guess I should say I did mispeak; the remaining analog TV stations are
not "the reason" the FCC denied the 4M band petition, they are one of the
reasons.



Lost it again, Jimmy? When you run out of valid arguments, you have to
resort to ad hominim attacks? Who called people trolls and liers


As I stated before, it would be trivial to find thousands of your posts
where you call people trolls and liars. Any particular group you would
like to start with, you megalomaniacal ass hole?



Lost it again, Jimmy? When you run out of valid arguments, you have to
resort to ad hominim attacks? Who called people trolls and liers (sic).

Why don't you prove your claims?

--
==================
Remove the "x" from my email address
Jerry, AI0K

==================

[email protected] November 30th 14 10:48 PM

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In rec.radio.amateur.boatanchors Jerry Stuckle wrote:
On 11/30/2014 5:09 PM, wrote:
In rec.radio.amateur.boatanchors Jerry Stuckle wrote:
On 11/30/2014 3:28 PM,
wrote:
In rec.radio.amateur.boatanchors Jerry Stuckle wrote:

Yet more megalomaniacal ranting caused by others disagreeing that Jerry
Stuckles knows everything and is ALWAYS correct, even when he is not.

I guess I should say I did mispeak; the remaining analog TV stations are
not "the reason" the FCC denied the 4M band petition, they are one of the
reasons.



Lost it again, Jimmy? When you run out of valid arguments, you have to
resort to ad hominim attacks? Who called people trolls and liers


As I stated before, it would be trivial to find thousands of your posts
where you call people trolls and liars. Any particular group you would
like to start with, you megalomaniacal ass hole?



Lost it again, Jimmy? When you run out of valid arguments, you have to
resort to ad hominim attacks? Who called people trolls and liers (sic).

Why don't you prove your claims?


Google Groups search:
comp.lang.php: Results: about 429 for troll AND authorname:"Jerry Stuckle"

Shall I go on with a few more groups?



--
Jim Pennino

Jerry Stuckle November 30th 14 11:05 PM

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On 11/30/2014 5:48 PM, wrote:
In rec.radio.amateur.boatanchors Jerry Stuckle wrote:
On 11/30/2014 5:09 PM,
wrote:
In rec.radio.amateur.boatanchors Jerry Stuckle wrote:
On 11/30/2014 3:28 PM,
wrote:
In rec.radio.amateur.boatanchors Jerry Stuckle wrote:

Yet more megalomaniacal ranting caused by others disagreeing that Jerry
Stuckles knows everything and is ALWAYS correct, even when he is not.

I guess I should say I did mispeak; the remaining analog TV stations are
not "the reason" the FCC denied the 4M band petition, they are one of the
reasons.



Lost it again, Jimmy? When you run out of valid arguments, you have to
resort to ad hominim attacks? Who called people trolls and liers

As I stated before, it would be trivial to find thousands of your posts
where you call people trolls and liars. Any particular group you would
like to start with, you megalomaniacal ass hole?



Lost it again, Jimmy? When you run out of valid arguments, you have to
resort to ad hominim attacks? Who called people trolls and liers (sic).

Why don't you prove your claims?


Google Groups search:
comp.lang.php: Results: about 429 for troll AND authorname:"Jerry Stuckle"

Shall I go on with a few more groups?


Lost it again, Jimmy? When you run out of valid arguments, you have to
resort to ad hominim attacks? Who called people trolls and liers (sic).

Why don't you prove your claims?

--
==================
Remove the "x" from my email address
Jerry, AI0K

==================

atec77[_3_] November 30th 14 11:26 PM

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On 1/12/2014 1:18 AM, Jerry Stuckle wrote:
On 11/30/2014 4:15 AM, the well-known troll atec77 wrote:




Ah, another well-known troll has to make a fool of himself. Why don't
you go back to aus.pay.tv? How about aus.legal? Maybe aus.hi-fi? Or
aus.radio.amateur.misc? You're well known as a troll there, also.

Are you trying to set a record for the number of groups you troll?

couldn't resist compounding your silliness eh sticky you silly old man


you are and always will be disconnected from the realities of not
being a plonker


[email protected] December 1st 14 12:08 AM

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In rec.radio.amateur.boatanchors Jerry Stuckle wrote:

Nothing but the usual rant and rave.

Your megalomaniac ravings have become boring so here is your chance for
the last word which you have to have to satisfy your over inflated ego.



--
Jim Pennino

Jerry Stuckle December 1st 14 01:04 AM

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On 11/30/2014 6:26 PM, atec77 wrote:
On 1/12/2014 1:18 AM, Jerry Stuckle wrote:
On 11/30/2014 4:15 AM, the well-known troll atec77 wrote:




Ah, another well-known troll has to make a fool of himself. Why don't
you go back to aus.pay.tv? How about aus.legal? Maybe aus.hi-fi? Or
aus.radio.amateur.misc? You're well known as a troll there, also.

Are you trying to set a record for the number of groups you troll?

couldn't resist compounding your silliness eh sticky you silly old man


you are and always will be disconnected from the realities of not being
a plonker


Ah, another well-known troll has to make a fool of himself. Why don't
you go back to aus.pay.tv? How about aus.legal? Maybe aus.hi-fi? Or
aus.radio.amateur.misc? You're well known as a troll there, also.

Are you trying to set a record for the number of groups you troll?

--
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Remove the "x" from my email address
Jerry, AI0K

==================

Jerry Stuckle December 1st 14 01:05 AM

High brightness LEDs?
 
On 11/30/2014 7:08 PM, wrote:
In rec.radio.amateur.boatanchors Jerry Stuckle wrote:

Nothing but the usual rant and rave.

Your megalomaniac ravings have become boring so here is your chance for
the last word which you have to have to satisfy your over inflated ego.


Lost it again, Jimmy? When you run out of valid arguments, you have to
resort to ad hominim attacks? Who called people trolls and liers (sic).

Why don't you prove your claims?

--
==================
Remove the "x" from my email address
Jerry, AI0K

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atec77[_3_] December 1st 14 02:27 AM

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On 1/12/2014 11:04 AM, Jerry Stuckle wrote:
O

Are you trying to set a record for the number of groups you troll?

aha your done , no imagination no common sence after your outing

and you cant resist me

after exposure to rod speed nothing you contrive will be effective

Jerry Stuckle December 1st 14 02:45 AM

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On 11/30/2014 9:27 PM, atec77 wrote:
On 1/12/2014 11:04 AM, Jerry Stuckle wrote:
O

Are you trying to set a record for the number of groups you troll?

aha your done , no imagination no common sence after your outing

and you cant resist me

after exposure to rod speed nothing you contrive will be effective


Ah, another well-known troll has to make a fool of himself. Why don't
you go back to aus.pay.tv? How about aus.legal? Maybe aus.hi-fi? Or
aus.radio.amateur.misc? You're well known as a troll there, also.

Are you trying to set a record for the number of groups you troll?

--
==================
Remove the "x" from my email address
Jerry, AI0K

==================

atec77[_3_] December 1st 14 08:54 AM

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On 1/12/2014 12:45 PM, Jerry Stuckle wrote:
stickies reply's deleted because of his failures as a human being ,
poster and all around silly old guy


now your turn to be last sticky fingers


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