In rec.radio.amateur.boatanchors Jerry Stuckle wrote:
On 11/28/2014 11:09 PM, wrote:
In rec.radio.amateur.boatanchors Jerry Stuckle wrote:
On 11/28/2014 9:10 PM, wrote:
In rec.radio.amateur.boatanchors Jerry Stuckle wrote:

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No, I am arguing from facts - unlike you. I've been in the business of
installing lighting control (and other things) for 11 years now. We
install numerous LED control systems every year.

I forgot that you are an expert on EVERYTHING and to call into question
anything you say is the ultimate insult.


You've just proven once again that you're an expert in NOTHING.

And you've just proven once again that all that you know is what you have
supposedly done, not what exists in the world.

Here is a couple of articles on the subject from people who do NOT make
a living selling either light bulbs or controls.

http://www.cnet.com/how-to/five-thin...ing-led-bulbs/
http://www.cnet.com/news/which-led-l...t-for-dimming/

It seems that yes, dimmable LED bulbs are available for legacy dimmers,
and they work just fine.

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Right. By a "CNET How-to expert" and a "text-based adventure game
connoisseur". Real experts!

I'll go by what the engineers who design the devices say. You keep
reading the funnies.

You mean the engineers working for the company that is trying to sell
dimmers and bulbs?

I'll go by the guy who doesn't have a dog in the race.


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Jim Pennino

On 11/29/2014 1:15 AM, wrote:
In rec.radio.amateur.boatanchors Jerry Stuckle wrote:
On 11/28/2014 11:09 PM, wrote:
In rec.radio.amateur.boatanchors Jerry Stuckle wrote:
On 11/28/2014 9:10 PM, wrote:
In rec.radio.amateur.boatanchors Jerry Stuckle wrote:

snip

No, I am arguing from facts - unlike you. I've been in the business of
installing lighting control (and other things) for 11 years now. We
install numerous LED control systems every year.

I forgot that you are an expert on EVERYTHING and to call into question
anything you say is the ultimate insult.


You've just proven once again that you're an expert in NOTHING.

And you've just proven once again that all that you know is what you have
supposedly done, not what exists in the world.

Here is a couple of articles on the subject from people who do NOT make
a living selling either light bulbs or controls.

http://www.cnet.com/how-to/five-thin...ing-led-bulbs/
http://www.cnet.com/news/which-led-l...t-for-dimming/

It seems that yes, dimmable LED bulbs are available for legacy dimmers,
and they work just fine.

snip


Right. By a "CNET How-to expert" and a "text-based adventure game
connoisseur". Real experts!

I'll go by what the engineers who design the devices say. You keep
reading the funnies.

You mean the engineers working for the company that is trying to sell
dimmers and bulbs?

I'll go by the guy who doesn't have a dog in the race.



If they lied in their statements, the FTC would be after them in a
second. They are very aggressive about such things.

And not all manufacturers would be saying the same thing.

But then you know everything, and you are always right. And anyone who
disagrees with you is a liar or doesn't know what he's talking about.

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In rec.radio.amateur.boatanchors Jerry Stuckle wrote:

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If they lied in their statements, the FTC would be after them in a
second. They are very aggressive about such things.

Only if people complain first or if the statements are blatent and
very visible as on TV.

I did not say they lied, which is irrelevant, as they were only talking
about their products.

And not all manufacturers would be saying the same thing.

Not all manufacturers are saying the same thing.

But then you know everything, and you are always right. And anyone who
disagrees with you is a liar or doesn't know what he's talking about.

I am not the one selling light bulbs and neither are the people that also
disagree with you.



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Jim Pennino

On 11/29/2014 1:06 PM, wrote:
In rec.radio.amateur.boatanchors Jerry Stuckle wrote:

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If they lied in their statements, the FTC would be after them in a
second. They are very aggressive about such things.

Only if people complain first or if the statements are blatent and
very visible as on TV.


Incorrect. The FTC takes actions on their own quite often.

I did not say they lied, which is irrelevant, as they were only talking
about their products.


Either they are correct or they lied. Which one is it?

And not all manufacturers would be saying the same thing.

Not all manufacturers are saying the same thing.


Which ones are not?

But then you know everything, and you are always right. And anyone who
disagrees with you is a liar or doesn't know what he's talking about.

I am not the one selling light bulbs and neither are the people that also
disagree with you.


No, and you're not experts in the field. The engineers I've worked with
are.

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In rec.radio.amateur.boatanchors Jerry Stuckle wrote:
On 11/29/2014 1:06 PM, wrote:
In rec.radio.amateur.boatanchors Jerry Stuckle wrote:

snip

If they lied in their statements, the FTC would be after them in a
second. They are very aggressive about such things.

Only if people complain first or if the statements are blatent and
very visible as on TV.


Incorrect. The FTC takes actions on their own quite often.

I did not say they lied, which is irrelevant, as they were only talking
about their products.


Either they are correct or they lied. Which one is it?

They were correct in what they said about their own products, but that
is irrelevant.

The bottom line is that it was implied that something you did, used, made,
worked with, said, observed, or in this case, sold, was less than perfect,
at which point you went off into one of your usual rages.

Once the rage starts, the other person is a troll, an anonymous troll, a
liar, ignorant, stupid and a few other of your usual ad hominem responses.

Now you are calling those doing independant reviews the funny pages.

Once the rage really gets going, you start interpreting what the other
person says as having the opposite meaning to what was said and saying
the other person said things that were never said, just like the "correct
or lied" statement above.

During the rage you go off onto tangets based on your misinterpretation of
the other persons responses that can only be seen though your blood lust
filled eyes.

The rage will often continue across topics and sometimes even groups
as blood lust within you boils over.

This will continue until everyone else gives up and you have the last
word.

You are just a thin skinned, egomaniacal playground bully with delusions
of perfection.

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Jim Pennino

On 11/29/2014 10:19 PM, wrote:
In rec.radio.amateur.boatanchors Jerry Stuckle wrote:
On 11/29/2014 1:06 PM, wrote:
In rec.radio.amateur.boatanchors Jerry Stuckle wrote:

snip

If they lied in their statements, the FTC would be after them in a
second. They are very aggressive about such things.

Only if people complain first or if the statements are blatent and
very visible as on TV.


Incorrect. The FTC takes actions on their own quite often.

I did not say they lied, which is irrelevant, as they were only talking
about their products.


Either they are correct or they lied. Which one is it?

They were correct in what they said about their own products, but that
is irrelevant.


Then you admit they were correct.

The bottom line is that it was implied that something you did, used, made,
worked with, said, observed, or in this case, sold, was less than perfect,
at which point you went off into one of your usual rages.


Nope, no rage here, Jimmy. But once again you've lost it. Just like
you always do, when you can't argue facts, you start with the adhominim
attacks.

Once the rage starts, the other person is a troll, an anonymous troll, a
liar, ignorant, stupid and a few other of your usual ad hominem responses.


You're the one with the attacks.

Now you are calling those doing independant reviews the funny pages.


Because that's what they are. Show me the qualifications of the author.

Once the rage really gets going, you start interpreting what the other
person says as having the opposite meaning to what was said and saying
the other person said things that were never said, just like the "correct
or lied" statement above.


Nope, just quoting what YOU said, Jimmy. But once again, you're off on
your usual tangent when you can't argue the facts.

During the rage you go off onto tangets based on your misinterpretation of
the other persons responses that can only be seen though your blood lust
filled eyes.


I'm not the one on a tangent, Jimmy. I've kept on topic. You're the
one with the ad hominim attacks.

The rage will often continue across topics and sometimes even groups
as blood lust within you boils over.

This will continue until everyone else gives up and you have the last
word.

You are just a thin skinned, egomaniacal playground bully with delusions
of perfection.


Once again you show you've lost it, Jimmy.

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