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Halli SX-88 now $3600 on ebay
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Very Rare. Got my ticket in 1957 and as all young hams tried to memorize all the spechs on ALL the radio's and I have never seen this model before. It looks to be commercial with the rack mount. the add says the SX-88 is a 20 tube radio. Looking in my WRL catalog for 1956 the SX-100 was a 15 tube radio. They have a SX-62A with slide rule dial, the most expensive hallicrafters receiver in the book at $349.00. It may be a re-engineered SX-100 but I suspect it was a special model considered too expensive for Hams. Can you read the writeing under the left frequency display? The two frequency tuneing knobs, or a close simalarity were used on the SX-101 about 1958 to 1961. It is Rare, But not that rare for my money.. G Bob On 31 Jul 2003 08:00:37 GMT, "pete" wrote: http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...tem=3038240975 just how rare is this? Pete KQ5I |
On Thu, 31 Jul 2003 08:00:37 UTC, "pete"
wrote: http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...tem=3038240975 just how rare is this? Pete KQ5I Rare but also the top Hallicrafter's receiver from the era. It was priced way up there when new, I'm guessing over $500 and that's when a new car was about $1500 and a coke was a nickel. Figure you pay over $15,000 for car and 50› for that coke, that radio should be $5,000. I've never used one or seen one even. But then I've never used an R390, 51S1, SX-115, NC-303 either. de ah6gi/4 |
pete wrote: http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...tem=3038240975 just how rare is this? Pete KQ5I Highest price I have seen paid was $10,000 on EBay last year. I have one I am currently restoring- I fail to see the fascination with this radio. New they sold for $595. Dale W4OP |
On 31 Jul 2003 08:00:37 GMT, "pete" wrote:
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...tem=3038240975 just how rare is this? Pete KQ5I Very rare indeed. The page at http://antiqueradio.org/halli09.htm says only about sixty are known to exist. It was produced for only two years, 1954 and 1955, priced at $595!!! 73 de Leigh W3NLB |
pete wrote: http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...tem=3038240975 just how rare is this? Pete KQ5I A. More money than sense. More sense than money?? B. To have what no one else has. C. To complete a life long want. D. To have the best receiver ever made. (don't think so but....) E. Better than buying lottery tickets. Care to add more?? de Fred. |
F. Hey it is my money, I'll spend it like I want
G. What part of free enterprise is it that you don't understand? H. Money is no object (with some folks) I. Desirability is in the eye of the beholder J. You really don't want price fixing -- do you? K. Auctions are a great American tradition, get over it. "Alfred Carlson" wrote in message ... pete wrote: http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...tem=3038240975 just how rare is this? Pete KQ5I A. More money than sense. More sense than money?? B. To have what no one else has. C. To complete a life long want. D. To have the best receiver ever made. (don't think so but....) E. Better than buying lottery tickets. Care to add more?? de Fred. |
It may be a re-engineered SX-100 ....
No similarity of design at all. I owned a SX-100 new. The SX-88 appearance and some of the design ideas put it close to the HT-32B transmitter in date and quality. Don |
The SX-88 is the holy grail of Hallicrafters communications receivers. It
is the rarest, and most desirable to collectors, and there are a great many enthusiastic collectors of Hallicrafters radios. While it is absolutely not in the same class, performance-wise, as an R-390a, it is a very fine 20 tube double conversion receiver. And, there were what...30,000+ R-390a's made? As was mentioned in a previous reply, it is extremely scarce. I have read that only 60 were (if memory serves) sold. $595 was a boatload of money in 1954, and this radio was only available for two years. There were approximately 1,000 Hammarlund Pro-310's sold, and one of those in good condition will fetch near $2,000. I have seen a junk 88 parts radio bring over $1,000. I will be very, very surprised indeed if this one doesn't go well north of $5,000. Clay "pete" wrote in message news:01c35739$9543b260$991388cf@verrando... http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...tem=3038240975 just how rare is this? Pete KQ5I |
"Dale Parfitt" wrote in message ... Highest price I have seen paid was $10,000 on EBay last year. I have one I am currently restoring- I fail to see the fascination with this radio. New they sold for $595. Dale W4OP I suppose advertising has much to do with the fascination. The SX 88 was featured prominently in most of the Hallicrafters advertising at the time, back when thousands of kids couldn't even afford the S-38. I think the 88 was the Allied cover radio and probably other catalogs. Now, I suppose a few dozen of those kids can now afford not only several S-38s, but the dream radio, too. Frank Dresser |
Well folks if you invested $595 back in the 50's at 8% interest compounded
annualy it would now be about -- yep you guessed it $10,000. Or you could have bought an SX-88 and enjoyed the radio for 30+ years. Tongue in cheek of course "Frank Dresser" wrote in message ... "Dale Parfitt" wrote in message ... Highest price I have seen paid was $10,000 on EBay last year. I have one I am currently restoring- I fail to see the fascination with this radio. New they sold for $595. Dale W4OP I suppose advertising has much to do with the fascination. The SX 88 was featured prominently in most of the Hallicrafters advertising at the time, back when thousands of kids couldn't even afford the S-38. I think the 88 was the Allied cover radio and probably other catalogs. Now, I suppose a few dozen of those kids can now afford not only several S-38s, but the dream radio, too. Frank Dresser |
" The SX-88 is the holy grail of Hallicrafters communications
receivers. It is the rarest, and most desirable to collectors, and there are a great many " just how rare is this? Pete KQ5I Other receivers just as rare but not nearly as expensive. The wonderful Icom R9000 will run circles around the SX88 in every parameter used and only costs $3000- 3500 on the used market and 2500 were made, selling new for $7000+. Buy the Mosley Receiver that used all the same tubes, rare, produced only 1 1/2 years but a dud on receive. So, anyone buying this has an expensive rare receiver and pays for it to just sit there. The SX73 was just as good. I have one SX88 that I paid $1500 for about 2 years ago and it is excellent. The SX115 is bringing $2000-2500 and is ham band only with same basic design plan. Go figure. Bottom line, if you have always wanted an SX88 and will at least plug it in and use it some, knowing that it will remain rare, $4000 seems reasonable. But, note the reserve has been met, far below the $4000 figure. I wud buy 2 Drake R8Bs and 2 JRC 535Ds with money to spare and hear a lot more! My SX88 sits, not plugged in. Looks a lot better than the one on eBay but NOT for sale.. San |
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Was it Harry Blessy's old unit? I remember him making a trad of sorts for a
Racal 6790/GM. Pete Mike Knudsen wrote in message ... In article , (Dbowey) writes: It may be a re-engineered SX-100 .... No similarity of design at all. I owned a SX-100 new. Well, I now have an SX-100 and I do regard it as a "poor ham's SX-88". Dual conversion, metal dials, similar bandwidth adjustments, etc. But the SX-88 has two RF stages and 6 bands like a good Hammarlund, and really is a fine design. I got to tune around with one for a few minutes at an IARC Radiofest at Elgin, IL one year when they were running a BA shack as part of the Fest. In the same way, I regard my SX-117 as a poor man's 115. Very similar architectures, though totally different appearnace and dial. Whatever you think, the SX-100 and 117 are good bangs for the buck. 73, Mike K. AA1UK Oscar loves trash, but hates Spam! Delete him to reply to me. |
That was a good receiver, but the rarest one I've seen was the Collins
451S-1. Basically, it was the receive section of a KWM-380, except that it used an SRA-3H mixer, instead of the SRA-1H mixer that the '380 used. Thise brought the low end down to about 40kHz. It was advertised in an older edition of WRTH, but it never got past the engineering prototype stage; this was about when Collins decided to pull out of the amateur market. There were only about 5 or 6 of them made, and the only two that I had seen belonged to Collins employees; as a matter of fact, one of the fellows just has it idling along on the 20 Meter band all day, just to look good. There was one other Collins receiver that never made it big; this was the S-1. It was a solid state, general coverage receiver that would tune either by using rotary switches, or it could also be computer controlled. I am not sure how many of these were made. There was one other cool receiver that I remember; this was the 851S-1. It was an HF8050 receiver, but with an optical encoder for tuning, and an LCD for the frequency readout, vs. the thumbwheel switches and the LED readout. The 8050 is a very good receiver, capable of withstanding 100V of RF at the antenna input, whether the receiver is powered on of off. Last time I checked, Murphy's Surplus was selling this receiver for around 3500. Lots of fun stuff out there! Pete Clay Nicolsen wrote in message ... So you drop the bomb in your last sentence: "My SX88 sits, not plugged in. Looks a lot better than the one on eBay but NOT for sale.. " ;) You're right, there are plenty of better performing receivers for much less money. I've got a Kenwood R-5000 that I will keep forever, and a mint Hammarlund HQ-180C, and I'll put the pair up against just about anything. As a matter of fact, my FRG-7 that I bought brand new in the '70's is without question still, imho, for the money, the best value triple-conversion receiver ever made. And great audio, too. The only folks who'll pay what the 88 will bring are diehard Halli guys who want it for their "centerpiece". I've been watching this one (no, it's WAY out of my league!) and it passed the reserve at around $3,500 or so. Not sure I'll buy this, though: "Other receivers just as rare..." I'm not an experienced Halli collector, but I've read in more than one article that as few as 60 may have been sold. You'd have to get into some very sophisticated military gear or practically one-off receivers to get close to that rarified number. Even if the 60 number is wrong, and no one knows for sure, the actual number can't be much more than the low hundreds. Oh, well, it's still fun to watch! Gotta be less insane, even at $5,000+, than that catalin that fetched $27,000 two weeks ago!! Clay |
hamman wrote: " The SX-88 is the holy grail of Hallicrafters communications receivers. It is the rarest, and most desirable to collectors, and there are a great many " just how rare is this? Pete KQ5I Other receivers just as rare but not nearly as expensive. The wonderful Icom R9000 will run circles around the SX88 in every parameter used and only costs $3000- 3500 on the used market and 2500 were made, selling new for $7000+. Buy the Mosley Receiver that used all the same tubes, rare, produced only 1 1/2 years but a dud on receive. I have a mint Mosley CM-1/CMS-1 and have restored 4 others for friends. Hardly consider it a dud on receive. Unlike many of its more expensive counterparts, the CM-1 has the same calibration on 10M as 80M- not all bunched up as in most RX of that era. I am, as I said in an earlier post, completely resotring an 88 and find it to be a clunky uninteresting receiver. For my $$, the 115 is far "sexier" and more interesting. In the end, I play with my little CM-1 more than any other here except perhaps the 2B/2BQ. Dale W4OP |
"Clay Nicolsen" wrote in message ...
So you drop the bomb in your last sentence: "My SX88 sits, not plugged in. Looks a lot better than the one on eBay but NOT for sale.. " ;) Clay : I was hit by lightning in 1995, taking out 15 radios, all of which were plugged in without antennas connected (storm coming). The path of damage went thru the neutral, fusing all the AC cords to the wall socket! So, I always unplug AND disconnect coax from unused rigs. hi hi That's the answer to that. The reason it is not for sale is that it was bought from a friend's estate and I promised the widow I wud not resell it until she passed away. She is 75 yrs old and healthy, and I shall pass before her! hi The Collins 451S1 is indeed rare. I have seen one, understand 8 are out there and know of 2 owners. Others are keeping quiet. I agree the HQ180C is very nice for the vintage, as is the SP600JX series and the R390A. I doubt the SX88 will touch the latter two. Low numbers and being the "flagship" at the time does NOT make it a good receiver (nor the flagship either) when production ceases with less than 100 made. Just makes it rare and, correctly, desireable to Hall. collector mainly. I won't be bidding. hi San 73 |
"Elmer E Ing" wrote in message news:4JdWa.18542$ff.8472@fed1read01... Well folks if you invested $595 back in the 50's at 8% interest compounded annualy it would now be about -- yep you guessed it $10,000. Or you could have bought an SX-88 and enjoyed the radio for 30+ years. Tongue in cheek of course But would it be a good investment over the next 50 years? I don't think so. Frank Dresser |
hamman wrote: Dale Parfitt wrote in message ... hamman wrote: " The SX-88 is the holy grail of Hallicrafters communications receivers. It is the rarest, and most desirable to collectors, and there are a great Dale: sold last CM-1 4 yrs ago for $200. I disagree, it is a horrible receiver with no provisions for rejection or notch and the $200 INCLUDED the rare speaker which alone is worth $150 if you can find one, sorta like the Drake 1AS speaker for the 1A. Bottom line is something is worth what you are willing to pay. As we get older, the things we want decreases in number because it only produces a problem for our wives to sell when we die. So I am down from 65 pieces to 26 at this time in the past 3 years. Glad we bough up this thread, sorta nostalgic.... San Hi San, I admit it is no 2B, but very stable and mine is hot at least through 20M- don't recall using it above there. I also have the CMS-1- not many around. Wierdest problem I ever saw was in the last one I restored- it would randomly go deaf- sometimes toucjing the antenna to the SO239 would bring it back. No amount of knocking around would though. I finally ended up in the VFO/Mixer compartment with a GDO and found out the mixer stages were not peaking. Turned out to be a screw mounting the VFO cap was protruding by a thousandths or less onto the stator plates. Placing a lockwasher under the head cured it. But I was ready to call it a parts radio! Most common problem I have seen is the S meter coil opening. Have a few spares here still- just in case. BTW, Collins S line gray is a near perfect match for the Mosley grey. Dale W4OP |
"Clay Nicolsen" wrote in message ... The SX-88 is the holy grail of Hallicrafters communications receivers. It is the rarest, and most desirable to collectors, and there are a great many enthusiastic collectors of Hallicrafters radios. While it is absolutely not in the same class, performance-wise, as an R-390a, it is a very fine 20 tube double conversion receiver. And, there were what...30,000+ R-390a's made? As was mentioned in a previous reply, it is extremely scarce. I have read that only 60 were (if memory serves) sold. $595 was a boatload of money in 1954, and this radio was only available for two years. There were approximately 1,000 Hammarlund Pro-310's sold, and one of those in good condition will fetch near $2,000. I have seen a junk 88 parts radio bring over $1,000. I will be very, very surprised indeed if this one doesn't go well north of $5,000. Clay It may be a vintage set, but anyone who'd pay $5000 for a 50 YO radio, let alone $2000 should be put into a rubber room IMHO - grin ; ) |
In article , "heavywater"
writes: It may be a vintage set, but anyone who'd pay $5000 for a 50 YO radio, let alone $2000 should be put into a rubber room IMHO - grin ; ) You think $5000 for an SX-88 is bad, look at this. 'Bout two years ago an unbuilt Heath AT-1 kit showed up on eBay. Still in the unopened original box, dated 1956, amking it one of the last ones made. The AT- was Heath's first attempt a t a ham transmitter. 6AG7-6L6, with 5U4G rectifier and link output. Final ran as a doubler on most bands and the efficiency was awful - typically less than 10 watts out for 35 watts in. $29.95 50 years ago. Final price of the auction: $5100. That's not a typo - five thousand one hundred dollars. 73 de Jim, N2EY |
This is basically the free enterprise system and whatever the market will bear
is what sets the price. What I don't comprehend is another situation. As an example, last year, I was following the bidding on an Icom IC-2100H. I stopped watching when the bidding got to $275 so I don't know how high it got. This was the price for a used radio without warranty at the same time it was available new, with warranty, at AES and elsewhere for $199. So if somebody is obviously online, a few key clicks searching for the radio would have saved the buyer over $75. Strange... |
On 31 Jul 2003 12:15:03 GMT, No Spam (ckh) wrote:
It was priced way up there when new, I'm guessing over $500 and that's when a new car was about $1500 and a coke was a nickel. Figure you pay over $15,000 for car and 50› for that coke, that radio should be $5,000. It's almost there! Must be at least two desperate buyers out there! CUL8R Spinach Inquisition |
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"Dave Ragsdale" wrote in
: It happens on ePay That is why the e-mail lists are the best places to trade. The free online classifieds are not bad too. I've done hundreds of transactions on ebay, dozens on the newsgroups, the only place I've been ripped off (twice) is on the newsgroups. No feedback, no bidder history, no registered user information, you are truly taking a huge risk doing a deal on the newsgroup or online list. I'm not willing to lose money that easily. This same SX-88 has been resold at least twice by crooks who have hijacked others accounts. Ebay isn't safe, either. Caveat emptor. http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...ategory=46 73 Go to the bottom of the page and see where the real account owner posted a comment. The pictures were stolen from a radio collector's website. |
"donut" wrote in message
... "Dave Ragsdale" wrote in : It happens on ePay That is why the e-mail lists are the best places to trade. The free online classifieds are not bad too. I've done hundreds of transactions on ebay, dozens on the newsgroups, the only place I've been ripped off (twice) is on the newsgroups. No feedback, no bidder history, no registered user information, you are truly taking a huge risk doing a deal on the newsgroup or online list. I'm not willing to lose money that easily. This same SX-88 has been resold at least twice by crooks who have hijacked others accounts. Ebay isn't safe, either. Caveat emptor. http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...ategory=46 73 Go to the bottom of the page and see where the real account owner posted a comment. The pictures were stolen from a radio collector's website. I'm thick, so help me out: why would anyone, crook or not, bother to list under someone else's name? Bill |
On Sun, 10 Aug 2003 01:26:51 GMT, "William Warren"
wrote: "donut" wrote in message ... "Dave Ragsdale" wrote in : It happens on ePay That is why the e-mail lists are the best places to trade. The free online classifieds are not bad too. I've done hundreds of transactions on ebay, dozens on the newsgroups, the only place I've been ripped off (twice) is on the newsgroups. No feedback, no bidder history, no registered user information, you are truly taking a huge risk doing a deal on the newsgroup or online list. I'm not willing to lose money that easily. This same SX-88 has been resold at least twice by crooks who have hijacked others accounts. Ebay isn't safe, either. Caveat emptor. http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...ategory=46 73 Go to the bottom of the page and see where the real account owner posted a comment. The pictures were stolen from a radio collector's website. I'm thick, so help me out: why would anyone, crook or not, bother to list under someone else's name? Bill Maybe to show ebay that in their arrogance they are just as susceptable to having peoples personal information stolen from them as they are In selling that personal information to a turd party which they have done.. IT will Happen AGAIN.. Personally I think It's a F***ing RIOT.. Just My Opinion Bob |
Haven't been screwed at a Hamfest/flea market as yet...As to E-Bay, bought
an Service Monitor and it wasn't as described. No lid came with it as was advertised. The seller (In Illinois) wrote me an e-mail acknowledging it and offered to pay me the difference plus some money for my troubles since he also delayed shipment by about a week and a half. That was 3 months or so ago. I have yet to see the cash. That was my only BAD deal on E-Bay. However, I have had "ex" friends try to screw me. They would make deals to buy stuff, want to pay later. I'd was dumb enough to let them do it. Three months later and a few excuses, they paid me off in full after I bitched at them and threatened to take them before a magistrate. Personally, given my experiences, I love dealing with people most anywhere anytime - on Ebay and News Groups as well as hamfests, flea markets and out of my shop. The seller in this instance and topic has to be on his toes though, as there are people waiting to take you. Still, I'd not put down the majority for the minority. AND just because they are "HAMS" doesn't mean a damned thing. I HATE THAT BEING USED AS A RATING. Hams are NOT given lie detector tests, psychological exams nor a criminal background check when they apply for a license. There are a LOT of innocent and HONEST hams out there, me among them. IF you got screwed by some one with an "amateur" license, then count them in the minority along with all the other ass holes of society. I see you're a ham too, so one may say to you then, well, you're also a ham does that make you as bad as the rest? I bet your answer is NO. You're painting with a broad brush and covering yourself as well. This is a whole different society, a man's word doesn't mean as much anymore with a growing number. Some day, this country will be worse than the old west, real or fictional. C.L. "Keith Poindexter" wrote in message ... I have been buying/selling on EBay since 1999. Never lost anything. Have been screwed on newsgroup 5 times in same period. Always by a Ham . Also been screwed at Hamfest. Go figure ? 73 Keith "donut" wrote in message ... "Dave Ragsdale" wrote in : It happens on ePay That is why the e-mail lists are the best places to trade. The free online classifieds are not bad too. I've done hundreds of transactions on ebay, dozens on the newsgroups, the only place I've been ripped off (twice) is on the newsgroups. No feedback, no bidder history, no registered user information, you are truly taking a huge risk doing a deal on the newsgroup or online list. I'm not willing to lose money that easily. This same SX-88 has been resold at least twice by crooks who have hijacked others accounts. Ebay isn't safe, either. Caveat emptor. http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...ategory=46 73 Go to the bottom of the page and see where the real account owner posted a comment. The pictures were stolen from a radio collector's website. |
Same here. Ron
Keith Poindexter wrote: I have been buying/selling on EBay since 1999. Never lost anything. Have been screwed on newsgroup 5 times in same period. Always by a Ham . Also been screwed at Hamfest. Go figure ? 73 Keith "donut" wrote in message ... "Dave Ragsdale" wrote in : It happens on ePay That is why the e-mail lists are the best places to trade. The free online classifieds are not bad too. I've done hundreds of transactions on ebay, dozens on the newsgroups, the only place I've been ripped off (twice) is on the newsgroups. No feedback, no bidder history, no registered user information, you are truly taking a huge risk doing a deal on the newsgroup or online list. I'm not willing to lose money that easily. This same SX-88 has been resold at least twice by crooks who have hijacked others accounts. Ebay isn't safe, either. Caveat emptor. http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...ategory=46 73 Go to the bottom of the page and see where the real account owner posted a comment. The pictures were stolen from a radio collector's website. |
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