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Wanted Signal One, Non-working
Not the CX-5 please want one newer, non-working is fine..
-- Best Regards, Frank, KG9H |
"Frank Krozel" wrote in message hlink.net... Not the CX-5 please want one newer, non-working is fine.. Well, we had a CX-7, and a CX-11, and a CX-11A. (Not to mention slight modifications to the CX-7 making them into CX-7A's and B's. Never ever was a CX-5 W4ZCB |
"Harold E. Johnson" ) writes:
"Frank Krozel" wrote in message hlink.net... Not the CX-5 please want one newer, non-working is fine.. Well, we had a CX-7, and a CX-11, and a CX-11A. (Not to mention slight modifications to the CX-7 making them into CX-7A's and B's. Never ever was a CX-5 W4ZCB Circa 1972, there was an ad in "73" for some new Signal Ones. A receiver, and maybe a transmitter. My guess was it was the big fat November issue that year, if anyone has there issues in better state than mine. I suspect they never went beyond those ads, though. I figured a CX-5 might have been one of those, except that I saw no reference to such equipment beyond that ad. Michael VE2BVW |
Circa 1972, there was an ad in "73" for some new Signal Ones. A receiver, and maybe a transmitter. My guess was it was the big fat November issue that year, if anyone has there issues in better state than mine. I suspect they never went beyond those ads, though. I figured a CX-5 might have been one of those, except that I saw no reference to such equipment beyond that ad. Nope, was initially designed as an integrated station (1969), receiver (dual) and tracking transmitter. Actually, the designation was : CX for "Century series" -7 for 10^7 Hz, ie 30 MHz. (Initially thought of including 6 meters, but that was dropped before the first one was built. Almost made it a CX-8. The 11 was a different manufacturer, never did understand the rational of that other than it sounded good. W4ZCB |
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I've seen picture of a Signal/One "receiver" in a book on receivers. It was a prototype, maybe a mock up and never saw production. Never even a consideration much less a prototype or mockup. Somebody else playing games with Photoshop. W4ZCB If you could find one, it would be priced "way up there". de ah6gi/4 currently restoring a CX7A. Not bad for a boat anchor. |
"Harold E. Johnson" ) writes:
I've seen picture of a Signal/One "receiver" in a book on receivers. It was a prototype, maybe a mock up and never saw production. Never even a consideration much less a prototype or mockup. Somebody else playing games with Photoshop. W4ZCB Just because you haven't seen anything does not make it untrue. Thee was no "Photoshop" back in 1972. Like I said, there was an ad in "73" in the fall of 1972, again I'd say the November issue, from Signal One where they detailed a few pieces of equipment. One of them was a receiver, I think there was a transmitter, and there might even have been another transceiver. I can't find that issue, it must be filed somewhere else. And yes, it was the only time I saw the ad, and I've never seen mention of any of those units since. But either they did mock up some units, or there were prototypes, because there were photos in that ad. Michael VE2BVW If you could find one, it would be priced "way up there". de ah6gi/4 currently restoring a CX7A. Not bad for a boat anchor. |
Michael Black wrote:
"Harold E. Johnson" ) writes: I've seen picture of a Signal/One "receiver" in a book on receivers. It was a prototype, maybe a mock up and never saw production. Never even a consideration much less a prototype or mockup. Somebody else playing games with Photoshop. W4ZCB Just because you haven't seen anything does not make it untrue. Thee was no "Photoshop" back in 1972. Like I said, there was an ad in "73" in the fall of 1972, again I'd say the November issue, from Signal One where they detailed a few pieces of equipment. One of them was a receiver, I think there was a transmitter, and there might even have been another transceiver. I can't find that issue, it must be filed somewhere else. And yes, it was the only time I saw the ad, and I've never seen mention of any of those units since. But either they did mock up some units, or there were prototypes, because there were photos in that ad. Michael VE2BVW Unless its the power of suggestion at work, I too seem to recall a Signal One rcvr...or at least a photo of one. -Bill M |
Just because you haven't seen anything does not make it untrue. Thee was no "Photoshop" back in 1972. I was one of the design engineers back in 1969 and 1970. The company was sold (Should say given, he never paid for it) to a Jay Halliday in 1971. He ran it into the ground and the IRS closed him up. He may have had a paper thin model of a Rx, but never had the smarts or the ability to build one. Subsequent to Halliday was Don Rohrs. He built the CX11 and later models. There still was never a CX-5 or a receiver. W4ZCB |
Michael Black wrote:
Just because you haven't seen anything does not make it untrue. You do know you're talking with a Signal/One designer, right? -- John Miller Email address: domain, n4vu.com; username, jsm Things will be bright in P.M. A cop will shine a light in your face. |
On Sat, 20 Mar 2004 11:40:06 UTC, John Miller wrote:
Michael Black wrote: Just because you haven't seen anything does not make it untrue. You do know you're talking with a Signal/One designer, right? Yes but in this case, he's wrong. I said: I've seen picture of a Signal/One "receiver" in a book on receivers. It was a prototype, maybe a mock up and never saw production. He replied: Never even a consideration much less a prototype or mockup. Somebody else playing games with Photoshop. W4ZCB I believe that I saw it in Fred Osterman's "Shortwave Receivers, Past and Present." A picture in Osterman's book or some other book does not mean that one of the several entities that called itself "Signal/One" actually made that receiver. It does mean that what I wrote was accurate. I have seen a picture of a Signal/One "receiver" in a book on receivers. Exactly what that picture represents is an unknown. It might have been a prototype (probably not, otherwise 4ZCB would know about it). It might have been a mockup done by the advertising folk (possible, lots happens that not everyone knows about. Also, that was 30 years ago. Memories fade before photographs.) It was not what 4ZCB suggests but does not precisely state, that some web-weenee photoshopped it up. That is exactly what that picture is not. So. The mystery remains. I've been busy but still hope to get my CX7A working this year. de ah6gi/4 |
No Spam wrote in message news:ifgU75G3LLdo-pn2-HHuLX3vdBsMb@localhost... On Sat, 20 Mar 2004 11:40:06 UTC, John Miller wrote: Michael Black wrote: Just because you haven't seen anything does not make it untrue. You do know you're talking with a Signal/One designer, right? Yes but in this case, he's wrong. I said: I've seen picture of a Signal/One "receiver" in a book on receivers. It was a prototype, maybe a mock up and never saw production. He replied: Never even a consideration much less a prototype or mockup. Somebody else playing games with Photoshop. W4ZCB I believe that I saw it in Fred Osterman's "Shortwave Receivers, Past and Present." A picture in Osterman's book or some other book does not mean that one of the several entities that called itself "Signal/One" actually made that receiver. It does mean that what I wrote was accurate. I have seen a picture of a Signal/One "receiver" in a book on receivers. Exactly what that picture represents is an unknown. It might have been a prototype (probably not, otherwise 4ZCB would know about it). It might have been a mockup done by the advertising folk (possible, lots happens that not everyone knows about. Also, that was 30 years ago. Memories fade before photographs.) It was not what 4ZCB suggests but does not precisely state, that some web-weenee photoshopped it up. That is exactly what that picture is not. So. The mystery remains. I've been busy but still hope to get my CX7A working this year. de ah6gi/4 In the November 1972 73 magazine on page 148 and 149 is a advert for Signal/One. They list a model CR-1500 dual channel receiver and the CR-1200 single VFO receiver. Also the model CT-1500 transmitter and a model CX-10 transceiver. There are pictures of these items, but they are probably mock-ups and I woul d guess they were never produced, or probably never even designed. Engineering may have not even known of these items, as a design engineer for almost 40 years, I can believe it. Other new accessories listed are a deluxe station console and 2-meter and 6-meter transverters with direct digital readout and FM capability. Those marketing people were sure busy. Mike T |
"Mike T" ) writes:
No Spam wrote in message news:ifgU75G3LLdo-pn2-HHuLX3vdBsMb@localhost... On Sat, 20 Mar 2004 11:40:06 UTC, John Miller wrote: Michael Black wrote: Just because you haven't seen anything does not make it untrue. You do know you're talking with a Signal/One designer, right? Yes but in this case, he's wrong. I said: I've seen picture of a Signal/One "receiver" in a book on receivers. It was a prototype, maybe a mock up and never saw production. He replied: Never even a consideration much less a prototype or mockup. Somebody else playing games with Photoshop. W4ZCB I believe that I saw it in Fred Osterman's "Shortwave Receivers, Past and Present." A picture in Osterman's book or some other book does not mean that one of the several entities that called itself "Signal/One" actually made that receiver. It does mean that what I wrote was accurate. I have seen a picture of a Signal/One "receiver" in a book on receivers. Exactly what that picture represents is an unknown. It might have been a prototype (probably not, otherwise 4ZCB would know about it). It might have been a mockup done by the advertising folk (possible, lots happens that not everyone knows about. Also, that was 30 years ago. Memories fade before photographs.) It was not what 4ZCB suggests but does not precisely state, that some web-weenee photoshopped it up. That is exactly what that picture is not. So. The mystery remains. I've been busy but still hope to get my CX7A working this year. de ah6gi/4 In the November 1972 73 magazine on page 148 and 149 is a advert for Signal/One. They list a model CR-1500 dual channel receiver and the CR-1200 single VFO receiver. Also the model CT-1500 transmitter and a model CX-10 transceiver. There are pictures of these items, but they are probably mock-ups and I woul d guess they were never produced, or probably never even designed. Engineering may have not even known of these items, as a design engineer for almost 40 years, I can believe it. Other new accessories listed are a deluxe station console and 2-meter and 6-meter transverters with direct digital readout and FM capability. Those marketing people were sure busy. Mike T Thanks for looking that up, I was hoping someone with their collection in better order could find it easily. I know I looked but it's not where I expected it. I wasn't for a minute arguing that these every went into production, and I can even agree tht they likely never saw prototypes, but the ad was not a figment of my imagination. I was still relatively new to the hobby when that issue arrived with that ad. The CX-7 had always been around since I started getting QST in early 1971, and I soon collected enough recent back issues that the rig was pretty familiar to me, and it did seem a leap ahead of much of what was available. People forget (or don't know) that the rig really stood out when it was introduced, not simply because it was almost completely solid-state at a time when tubes were still fairly common, but because it introduced some new techniques at the time. It took about ten years before other rigs that seemed on the same level became common. And I precisely remember that ad because all those neat pieces of equipment were something to drool over. I didn't question at the time that they weren't going to be produced, though it meant little to me either way since it was all out of my price range. It was only when there were no more ads for those rigs that it because obvious that we weren't going to see them in production. Was the Emergency Beacon ad in that issue, or did those rigs come later? They were 2meter FM rigs that had plenty of bells and whistles, again at a time when the norm were pretty plain. I thought some were produced, but there was one ad that showed a more extensive line, and then shortly after the company disappeared (or maybe the ad was the last time the company was heard of). For some reason, I place the ad in that November 1972 issue, but I'n not as sure of it as with the Signal One ad. Michael VE2BVW |
"Michael Black" wrote in message ... "Mike T" ) writes: No Spam wrote in message news:ifgU75G3LLdo-pn2-HHuLX3vdBsMb@localhost... On Sat, 20 Mar 2004 11:40:06 UTC, John Miller wrote: Michael Black wrote: Just because you haven't seen anything does not make it untrue. You do know you're talking with a Signal/One designer, right? Yes but in this case, he's wrong. I said: I've seen picture of a Signal/One "receiver" in a book on receivers. It was a prototype, maybe a mock up and never saw production. He replied: Never even a consideration much less a prototype or mockup. Somebody else playing games with Photoshop. W4ZCB I believe that I saw it in Fred Osterman's "Shortwave Receivers, Past and Present." A picture in Osterman's book or some other book does not mean that one of the several entities that called itself "Signal/One" actually made that receiver. It does mean that what I wrote was accurate. I have seen a picture of a Signal/One "receiver" in a book on receivers. Exactly what that picture represents is an unknown. It might have been a prototype (probably not, otherwise 4ZCB would know about it). It might have been a mockup done by the advertising folk (possible, lots happens that not everyone knows about. Also, that was 30 years ago. Memories fade before photographs.) It was not what 4ZCB suggests but does not precisely state, that some web-weenee photoshopped it up. That is exactly what that picture is not. So. The mystery remains. I've been busy but still hope to get my CX7A working this year. de ah6gi/4 In the November 1972 73 magazine on page 148 and 149 is a advert for Signal/One. They list a model CR-1500 dual channel receiver and the CR-1200 single VFO receiver. Also the model CT-1500 transmitter and a model CX-10 transceiver. There are pictures of these items, but they are probably mock-ups and I woul d guess they were never produced, or probably never even designed. Engineering may have not even known of these items, as a design engineer for almost 40 years, I can believe it. Other new accessories listed are a deluxe station console and 2-meter and 6-meter transverters with direct digital readout and FM capability. Those marketing people were sure busy. Mike T Thanks for looking that up, I was hoping someone with their collection in better order could find it easily. I know I looked but it's not where I expected it. I wasn't for a minute arguing that these every went into production, and I can even agree tht they likely never saw prototypes, but the ad was not a figment of my imagination. I was still relatively new to the hobby when that issue arrived with that ad. The CX-7 had always been around since I started getting QST in early 1971, and I soon collected enough recent back issues that the rig was pretty familiar to me, and it did seem a leap ahead of much of what was available. People forget (or don't know) that the rig really stood out when it was introduced, not simply because it was almost completely solid-state at a time when tubes were still fairly common, but because it introduced some new techniques at the time. It took about ten years before other rigs that seemed on the same level became common. And I precisely remember that ad because all those neat pieces of equipment were something to drool over. I didn't question at the time that they weren't going to be produced, though it meant little to me either way since it was all out of my price range. It was only when there were no more ads for those rigs that it because obvious that we weren't going to see them in production. Was the Emergency Beacon ad in that issue, or did those rigs come later? They were 2meter FM rigs that had plenty of bells and whistles, again at a time when the norm were pretty plain. I thought some were produced, but there was one ad that showed a more extensive line, and then shortly after the company disappeared (or maybe the ad was the last time the company was heard of). For some reason, I place the ad in that November 1972 issue, but I'n not as sure of it as with the Signal One ad. Michael VE2BVW I did not see any listing in the ad index for Emergency Beacon, I did not look at each page as there are 320 pages in that issue. I got a CX-7 about 6 months ago, it is a very nice rig, and fits in real well with all my other boatanchors. Mike T |
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