On Sun, 23 May 2004 19:11:51 GMT, "JOE"
wrote:



Maybe you would prefer he have to apply for a government permit
before he could disassemble it.


Wow! Only 3 posts before the looney toons start showing up!



3?

It seems the loon started this thread....

JOE wrote:
This is like his 4th or 5th complete stripping out of Heathkit rigs.

Etc.

Joe, let me ask you this: if by sacrificing one rig he can enable the
resurrection of a dozen Heathkits which otherwise would have been consigned
to the scrap heap, wouldn't you think that would be a *good* thing?

That was not a rhetorical question. I'd be interested in your answser.

--
John Miller, thinking now of parting out a perfectly good Tek 465B
Email address: domain, n4vu.com; username, jsm

The party adjourned to a hot tub, yes. Fully clothed, I might add.
-IBM employee, testifying in California State Supreme Court

"John Miller" wrote in message
...
JOE wrote:
This is like his 4th or 5th complete stripping out of Heathkit rigs.

Etc.

Joe, let me ask you this: if by sacrificing one rig he can enable the
resurrection of a dozen Heathkits which otherwise would have been
consigned
to the scrap heap, wouldn't you think that would be a *good* thing?

That was not a rhetorical question. I'd be interested in your answser.


It would be far better to scrap out the dozen Heathkits destined for the
scrap heap, rather than part out what was described as being a
"pristine" unit earlier. It don't make any sense to part out
pristine examples, since few have survived in that condition.

BTW, 465s are a dime a dozen, not rare, and there are already
hundreds of parts units available from dealers... I doubt you would
gain financially from that venture...

Pete

first,

i always have to laugh at the "open forum" here. it's kinda like
christmas as a kid, for me. you expect something new, but as always, same
****, different box. save the breath on free speech, i am
done...............

i can understand joe's reaction. 'most" people who frequent this group
look at a junker radio and see what can be raised from the ashes. if you
don't, you probably don't like boatanchors. yes, we scalp "junk" to keep the
others living, however most take no pleasure in it. i, for one, am not proud
of scalping old rigs. i'd like to save them all. truth is, we can't. and if
i wish to continue to use and enjoy my heathkits, swans,
hammarlunds..................i will have to do this from time to time.

however, to take a perfectly working rig and dice it up for parts, is
absurd. i can relate with joe's comments, i love old radios. any brand. for
me, the monitary value does not matter. (flamers note: i said ME) i would
venture to say "most" hams have one piece of equipment in the station that
money simply can not buy.

yes, it is his stuff. yes, he can do whatever he wants. yes, we will not
stop it. blah blah blah.

yes, it is sad to see.

your milage may, and probably will vary.

--
73 de KU4YP Member Flying Pigs QRP
Michael Prevatt #225
Bartow, Florida Member Florida Contest Group
" Uncle Peter" wrote in message
news:rYbsc.4507$0d6.4465@lakeread03...

"John Miller" wrote in message
...
JOE wrote:
This is like his 4th or 5th complete stripping out of Heathkit rigs.

Etc.

Joe, let me ask you this: if by sacrificing one rig he can enable the
resurrection of a dozen Heathkits which otherwise would have been
consigned
to the scrap heap, wouldn't you think that would be a *good* thing?

That was not a rhetorical question. I'd be interested in your answser.


It would be far better to scrap out the dozen Heathkits destined for the
scrap heap, rather than part out what was described as being a
"pristine" unit earlier. It don't make any sense to part out
pristine examples, since few have survived in that condition.

BTW, 465s are a dime a dozen, not rare, and there are already
hundreds of parts units available from dealers... I doubt you would
gain financially from that venture...

Pete

KU4YP wrote:

first,

i always have to laugh at the "open forum" here. it's kinda like
christmas as a kid, for me. you expect something new, but as always, same
****, different box. save the breath on free speech, i am
done...............

i can understand joe's reaction. 'most" people who frequent this group
look at a junker radio and see what can be raised from the ashes. if you
don't, you probably don't like boatanchors. yes, we scalp "junk" to keep the
others living, however most take no pleasure in it. i, for one, am not proud
of scalping old rigs. i'd like to save them all. truth is, we can't. and if
i wish to continue to use and enjoy my heathkits, swans,
hammarlunds..................i will have to do this from time to time.

however, to take a perfectly working rig and dice it up for parts, is
absurd. i can relate with joe's comments, i love old radios. any brand. for
me, the monitary value does not matter. (flamers note: i said ME) i would
venture to say "most" hams have one piece of equipment in the station that
money simply can not buy.

yes, it is his stuff. yes, he can do whatever he wants. yes, we will not
stop it. blah blah blah.

yes, it is sad to see.

Just because it is a persons "right" to do something - and make no
mistake about it, if he wants to crap in the radio, then run over it
with his car - it is his to do it with. But that really doesn't make it
right.

A person that loves old radios would almost never tear apart a mint rig.

But of course, we are talking about Ebay here. A person would do well
to take any claims as to "mintness" with a big bag of salt!

- Mike KB3EIA -

KU4YP wrote:
snip
however, to take a perfectly working rig and dice it up for
parts, is absurd. i can relate with joe's comments, i love old
radios. any brand. for me, the monitary value does not matter.
(flamers note: i said ME) i would venture to say "most" hams have one
piece of equipment in the station that money simply can not buy.

For me, it's the Heath GR-54 mentioned just today in the thread about the
AT-1. My brother and I built it while in high school...around 1966. When
he passed away in 1993, I just happened to have possession...we had passed
it back & forth over the years. I probably wouldn't have been able to bring
it back on the airplane from Phoenix (where I went to arrange shipping of
the body back to Missouri) had it been in his hands at the time.

OTOH, the faceplate is cracked, and there's a knob missing...so, if anyone
were parting out one--even a 'pristine, perfectly working example'--I'd be
interested in those parts, and glad to have them.

I guess this example represents both sides of the argument....

jak


yes, it is his stuff. yes, he can do whatever he wants. yes, we
will not stop it. blah blah blah.

yes, it is sad to see.

your milage may, and probably will vary.


"John Miller" wrote in message
...
JOE wrote:
This is like his 4th or 5th complete stripping out of Heathkit
rigs.

Etc.

Joe, let me ask you this: if by sacrificing one rig he can enable
the resurrection of a dozen Heathkits which otherwise would have
been consigned to the scrap heap, wouldn't you think that would be
a *good* thing?

That was not a rhetorical question. I'd be interested in your
answser.


It would be far better to scrap out the dozen Heathkits destined for
the scrap heap, rather than part out what was described as being a
"pristine" unit earlier. It don't make any sense to part out
pristine examples, since few have survived in that condition.

BTW, 465s are a dime a dozen, not rare, and there are already
hundreds of parts units available from dealers... I doubt you would
gain financially from that venture...

Pete

Uncle Peter wrote:
It would be far better to scrap out the dozen Heathkits destined for the
scrap heap, rather than part out what was described as being a
"pristine" unit earlier. It don't make any sense to part out
pristine examples, since few have survived in that condition.

I believe I understand both sides of this argument pretty well, and I don't
have a dog in this fight, anyway, but just for the sake of thinking things
through, rather than succumbing to assumptions...

....suppose you had one pristine radio and a dozen clunkers (total of 13, one
working), and you whipped out your spreadsheet and found that you could end
up with a total of six good working rigs if you left the pristine rig
alone, but eight good working rigs if you parted it out. What then?

--
John "hey, just asking" Miller
Email address: domain, n4vu.com; username, jsm

"A verbal contract isn't worth the paper it's printed on."
-Samuel Goldwyn

I'm not a big fan of this behavior myself, BUT....

I've tried selling off my Heath HW-101 station. Works fine and decent
cosmetics. I've been unable to sell it for $225, yet I see the speaker
alone sell for about $100 and the power supply sell for $150.

If I was like this guy, I'd sell the speaker and PS, yank out the tubes
from the rig and junk it. Can't bring myself to do this so I'll keep
dragging it to junkfests.

Steve

JOE wrote in message
news.com...

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...m=30957996 51


This is like his 4th or 5th complete stripping out of Heathkit rigs.
"Ready
to install
part - removed from mint condition fully working rig" - words to that
effect.
I mean what the HELL? What next - buy up Collins and strip them out?? So
you
can make $40 more than the radio is worth.... it's like this guy thinks
he's clever
and come up with a 'new idea' - strip mint radios for a 25% extra profit.

Go to the link above, then click 'view sellers other auctions' - you'll
see
what I mean.

Just irritates me and I wanted to rant. I know the argument - it's his
radio and
he can sell it / chop it up as he sees fit. Yeah yeah. Still hate it.

JOE

FWIW, we are talking about Ebay here! Does anyone actually believe that
a person is parting out a mint unit in the first place?

Ebay is the home of " I can't find a power cord, and don't know how to
hook up an antenna, so the unit is as-is" or I turned it on and the
tubes light up, but don't know how to ...yada yada.

Think about it.

- Mike KB3EIA -

Steve wrote:

I'm not a big fan of this behavior myself, BUT....

I've tried selling off my Heath HW-101 station. Works fine and decent
cosmetics. I've been unable to sell it for $225, yet I see the speaker
alone sell for about $100 and the power supply sell for $150.

If I was like this guy, I'd sell the speaker and PS, yank out the tubes
from the rig and junk it. Can't bring myself to do this so I'll keep
dragging it to junkfests.

Steve

JOE wrote in message
news.com...

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...m=30957996 51


This is like his 4th or 5th complete stripping out of Heathkit rigs.

"Ready

to install
part - removed from mint condition fully working rig" - words to that
effect.
I mean what the HELL? What next - buy up Collins and strip them out?? So
you
can make $40 more than the radio is worth.... it's like this guy thinks
he's clever
and come up with a 'new idea' - strip mint radios for a 25% extra profit.

Go to the link above, then click 'view sellers other auctions' - you'll

see

what I mean.

Just irritates me and I wanted to rant. I know the argument - it's his
radio and
he can sell it / chop it up as he sees fit. Yeah yeah. Still hate it.

JOE

The following is really not true. There are a lot of very nice radios on
eBay. Think of the guy that steals new cars and parts them out. Old
radios have no real value to most of the population so does it really
matter in 40 years or so they will all end up in the scrap yard anyway
because there will be nobody around to use them and nowhere to use them
. Ham radio is a dying Hobby period. I have determined there are a
lot of people on this group that really do need a get a life.

Robin Hood




Mike Coslo wrote:
FWIW, we are talking about Ebay here! Does anyone actually believe
that a person is parting out a mint unit in the first place?

Ebay is the home of " I can't find a power cord, and don't know how
to hook up an antenna, so the unit is as-is" or I turned it on and the
tubes light up, but don't know how to ...yada yada.

Think about it.

- Mike KB3EIA -

Steve wrote:

I'm not a big fan of this behavior myself, BUT....

I've tried selling off my Heath HW-101 station. Works fine and decent
cosmetics. I've been unable to sell it for $225, yet I see the speaker
alone sell for about $100 and the power supply sell for $150.

If I was like this guy, I'd sell the speaker and PS, yank out the tubes
from the rig and junk it. Can't bring myself to do this so I'll keep
dragging it to junkfests.

Steve

JOE wrote in message
news.com...

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...m=30957996 51



This is like his 4th or 5th complete stripping out of Heathkit rigs.


"Ready

to install
part - removed from mint condition fully working rig" - words to that
effect.
I mean what the HELL? What next - buy up Collins and strip them
out?? So
you
can make $40 more than the radio is worth.... it's like this guy
thinks
he's clever
and come up with a 'new idea' - strip mint radios for a 25% extra
profit.

Go to the link above, then click 'view sellers other auctions' - you'll


see

what I mean.

Just irritates me and I wanted to rant. I know the argument - it's his
radio and
he can sell it / chop it up as he sees fit. Yeah yeah. Still hate it.

JOE