Need a manual? Maybe K4XL's BAMA can help. In the spirit of the "Old
Internet," before all the spam and "For Sale" ads, The BoatAnchor
Manual Archive offers almost 2000 manuals from over 200 different
manufacturers for free downloading. Download whatever you need, but
don't be a sleazebag and sell what you download on eBay. The manuals
are available on two sites: http://bama.sbc.edu can serve only 10
users at the same time, but the mirror site at http://bama.edebris.com
can take many more simultaneous connections.

Are the manuals on BAMA as good as those that the vendors provide?
Sometimes, yes, and sometimes, no. In every case, the price is right!

Ken K4XL


*** BoatAnchor Manual Archive ***
On the web at http://bama.sbc.edu and http://bama.edebris.com
FTP site info: bama.sbc.edu login: anonymous p/w: youremailadr

B A M A Rocks !

Truly in the spirit of ham radio.

Beware of TOTAL SCUM like Ebay seller micromanuals
) who have copied manuals and sell the very same.
Sometimes doing nothing more than emailing the original.



"Kenneth Grimm" wrote in message
...

Need a manual? Maybe K4XL's BAMA can help. In the spirit of the "Old
Internet," before all the spam and "For Sale" ads, The BoatAnchor
Manual Archive offers almost 2000 manuals from over 200 different
manufacturers for free downloading. Download whatever you need, but
don't be a sleazebag and sell what you download on eBay. The manuals
are available on two sites: http://bama.sbc.edu can serve only 10
users at the same time, but the mirror site at http://bama.edebris.com
can take many more simultaneous connections.

Are the manuals on BAMA as good as those that the vendors provide?
Sometimes, yes, and sometimes, no. In every case, the price is right!

Ken K4XL


*** BoatAnchor Manual Archive ***
On the web at http://bama.sbc.edu and http://bama.edebris.com
FTP site info: bama.sbc.edu login: anonymous p/w: youremailadr

Those wishing to contribute in BAMA please remember: do not use jpg to =
scan text or diagrams. BAMA recommend to use an algorithm called djvu. =
If you use that, please check that diagrams are OK before uploading, =
because I have seen djvu diagrams which are not really OK. If you would =
instead use lossless compression (e.g. gif) you would be safe for sure.

And please make also sure that diagrams are easily readable, and can be =
easily re-assembled when split across multiple sheets (magnification =
factor must be identical for all sheets).

Another recommendation: please do not upload "partial manuals". You may =
never know what someone else is interested in.

73

Tony, I0JX


"Albert & Btittany Spear" ha scritto nel messaggio =
...
B A M A Rocks !
=20
Truly in the spirit of ham radio.
=20
Beware of TOTAL SCUM like Ebay seller micromanuals=20
) who have copied manuals and sell the very =
same.
Sometimes doing nothing more than emailing the original.
=20
=20
=20
"Kenneth Grimm" wrote in message=20
...

Need a manual? Maybe K4XL's BAMA can help. In the spirit of the =
"Old
Internet," before all the spam and "For Sale" ads, The BoatAnchor
Manual Archive offers almost 2000 manuals from over 200 different
manufacturers for free downloading. Download whatever you need, but
don't be a sleazebag and sell what you download on eBay. The =
manuals
are available on two sites: http://bama.sbc.edu can serve only 10
users at the same time, but the mirror site at =
http://bama.edebris.com
can take many more simultaneous connections.

Are the manuals on BAMA as good as those that the vendors provide?
Sometimes, yes, and sometimes, no. In every case, the price is =
right!

Ken K4XL


*** BoatAnchor Manual Archive ***
On the web at http://bama.sbc.edu and http://bama.edebris.com
FTP site info: bama.sbc.edu login: anonymous p/w: youremailadr=20
=20

Here is another dirtbag "cw-man" selling BAMA manuals on ebay.

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...1630 128&rd=1

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...1945 272&rd=1


Albert & Btittany Spear wrote:
B A M A Rocks !

Truly in the spirit of ham radio.

Beware of TOTAL SCUM like Ebay seller micromanuals
) who have copied manuals and sell the very same.
Sometimes doing nothing more than emailing the original.



"Kenneth Grimm" wrote in message
...

Need a manual? Maybe K4XL's BAMA can help. In the spirit of the "Old
Internet," before all the spam and "For Sale" ads, The BoatAnchor
Manual Archive offers almost 2000 manuals from over 200 different
manufacturers for free downloading. Download whatever you need, but
don't be a sleazebag and sell what you download on eBay. The manuals
are available on two sites: http://bama.sbc.edu can serve only 10
users at the same time, but the mirror site at http://bama.edebris.com
can take many more simultaneous connections.

Are the manuals on BAMA as good as those that the vendors provide?
Sometimes, yes, and sometimes, no. In every case, the price is right!

Ken K4XL


*** BoatAnchor Manual Archive ***
On the web at http://bama.sbc.edu and http://bama.edebris.com
FTP site info: bama.sbc.edu login: anonymous p/w: youremailadr

wrote in message ...
Here is another dirtbag "cw-man" selling BAMA manuals on ebay.

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...1630 128&rd=1

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...1945 272&rd=1


First off, I will say that I have both uploaded & downloaded at BAMA. It's a
most noble use of the Net.

OTOH, if you want to dl a complete set of something, how long does it take
for you to do the dl & burn a CD? And as you do the dl, you are contributing
to the congestion at BAMA.

Consider the picnic model. You want to go on a picnic next weekend, so do
you start making and saving ice cubes a week in advance, or do you just buy
a bag of ice at a convenience store? Sure, it's only a bag of very cold
water, but I don't consider the seller a dirtbag. I'm making a decision for
my convenience, based on how I value my time. And, from my perspective, $9
total (covering materials, labor, packaging, packing, postage & commissions)
is not a way to get rich (unless you have a very poor day job).

Now, maybe as a BAMA contributor, could this seller be hurting me? I can't
see how, since the material I contributed wasn't really my intellectual
property, and the value I added by creating an electronic copy was always
intended as a gift. And remember, I "contributed" the information, so I gave
up any rights I might have had due to the nature of the transaction.

About the only "unfair" practice I could see would be the moral position of
selling something which, but for the buyer's ignorance, could be obtained
for free. OTOH, that ignorance fee is supposed to be the incentive to buyer
enlightenment. g


--
Ed
WB6WSN
El Cajon, CA USA

Ed Price wrote:
wrote in message
...
Here is another dirtbag "cw-man" selling BAMA manuals on ebay.


http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...1630 128&rd=1


http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...1945 272&rd=1


First off, I will say that I have both uploaded & downloaded at BAMA.
It's a
most noble use of the Net.

OTOH, if you want to dl a complete set of something, how long does it
take
for you to do the dl & burn a CD? And as you do the dl, you are
contributing
to the congestion at BAMA.

Consider the picnic model. You want to go on a picnic next weekend,
so do
you start making and saving ice cubes a week in advance, or do you
just buy
a bag of ice at a convenience store? Sure, it's only a bag of very
cold
water, but I don't consider the seller a dirtbag. I'm making a
decision for
my convenience, based on how I value my time. And, from my
perspective, $9
total (covering materials, labor, packaging, packing, postage &
commissions)
is not a way to get rich (unless you have a very poor day job).

Now, maybe as a BAMA contributor, could this seller be hurting me? I
can't
see how, since the material I contributed wasn't really my
intellectual
property, and the value I added by creating an electronic copy was
always
intended as a gift. And remember, I "contributed" the information, so
I gave
up any rights I might have had due to the nature of the transaction.

About the only "unfair" practice I could see would be the moral
position of
selling something which, but for the buyer's ignorance, could be
obtained
for free. OTOH, that ignorance fee is supposed to be the incentive to
buyer
enlightenment. g


--
Ed
WB6WSN
El Cajon, CA USA


One huge problem is that this guy, if they are BAMA downloads, didn't
do any of the real work of scanning and uploading. Then he didn't have
to compile onto a web site or pay for that web site. THIEF is more the
word that comes to mind. I also have uploaded a few manuals to BAMA for
free use of everyone not to be sold. When I uploaded to BAMA I
transfered my rights to K4XL not to some thief.

No One You Know wrote:
Ed Price wrote:

wrote in message

...

Here is another dirtbag "cw-man" selling BAMA manuals on ebay.



http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...1630 128&rd=1


http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...1945 272&rd=1

First off, I will say that I have both uploaded & downloaded at BAMA.

It's a

most noble use of the Net.

OTOH, if you want to dl a complete set of something, how long does it

take

for you to do the dl & burn a CD? And as you do the dl, you are

contributing

to the congestion at BAMA.

Consider the picnic model. You want to go on a picnic next weekend,

so do

you start making and saving ice cubes a week in advance, or do you

just buy

a bag of ice at a convenience store? Sure, it's only a bag of very

cold

water, but I don't consider the seller a dirtbag. I'm making a

decision for

my convenience, based on how I value my time. And, from my

perspective, $9

total (covering materials, labor, packaging, packing, postage &

commissions)

is not a way to get rich (unless you have a very poor day job).

Now, maybe as a BAMA contributor, could this seller be hurting me? I

can't

see how, since the material I contributed wasn't really my

intellectual

property, and the value I added by creating an electronic copy was

always

intended as a gift. And remember, I "contributed" the information, so

I gave

up any rights I might have had due to the nature of the transaction.

About the only "unfair" practice I could see would be the moral

position of

selling something which, but for the buyer's ignorance, could be

obtained

for free. OTOH, that ignorance fee is supposed to be the incentive to

buyer

enlightenment. g


--
Ed
WB6WSN
El Cajon, CA USA



One huge problem is that this guy, if they are BAMA downloads, didn't
do any of the real work of scanning and uploading. Then he didn't have
to compile onto a web site or pay for that web site. THIEF is more the
word that comes to mind. I also have uploaded a few manuals to BAMA for
free use of everyone not to be sold. When I uploaded to BAMA I
transfered my rights to K4XL not to some thief.

I have scanned about 25-30 manuals and uploaded them to BAMA. It is a
lot of work. It takes a considerable amount of time to scan them, crop
and make them look good. Periodically, someone will e-mail and ask me if
I would sell them a copy of a manual. I just e-mail it to them and do
the same when they get approached for a copy of a manual.

These guys are not just thieves but low life dirtbags and all for a few
dollars.

THANK YOU!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


On Sat, 07 May 2005 15:37:37 -0400, Kenneth Grimm
wrote:


Need a manual? Maybe K4XL's BAMA can help. In the spirit of the "Old
Internet," before all the spam and "For Sale" ads, The BoatAnchor
Manual Archive offers almost 2000 manuals from over 200 different
manufacturers for free downloading. Download whatever you need, but
don't be a sleazebag and sell what you download on eBay. The manuals
are available on two sites: http://bama.sbc.edu can serve only 10
users at the same time, but the mirror site at http://bama.edebris.com
can take many more simultaneous connections.

Are the manuals on BAMA as good as those that the vendors provide?
Sometimes, yes, and sometimes, no. In every case, the price is right!

Ken K4XL


*** BoatAnchor Manual Archive ***
On the web at http://bama.sbc.edu and http://bama.edebris.com
FTP site info: bama.sbc.edu login: anonymous p/w: youremailadr

wrote in message ...
No One You Know wrote:
Ed Price wrote:

wrote in message

...

Here is another dirtbag "cw-man" selling BAMA manuals on ebay.




http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...1630 128&rd=1



http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...1945 272&rd=1

First off, I will say that I have both uploaded & downloaded at BAMA.

It's a

most noble use of the Net.

OTOH, if you want to dl a complete set of something, how long does it

take

for you to do the dl & burn a CD? And as you do the dl, you are

contributing

to the congestion at BAMA.

Consider the picnic model. You want to go on a picnic next weekend,

so do

you start making and saving ice cubes a week in advance, or do you

just buy

a bag of ice at a convenience store? Sure, it's only a bag of very

cold

water, but I don't consider the seller a dirtbag. I'm making a

decision for

my convenience, based on how I value my time. And, from my

perspective, $9

total (covering materials, labor, packaging, packing, postage &

commissions)

is not a way to get rich (unless you have a very poor day job).

Now, maybe as a BAMA contributor, could this seller be hurting me? I

can't

see how, since the material I contributed wasn't really my

intellectual

property, and the value I added by creating an electronic copy was

always

intended as a gift. And remember, I "contributed" the information, so

I gave

up any rights I might have had due to the nature of the transaction.

About the only "unfair" practice I could see would be the moral

position of

selling something which, but for the buyer's ignorance, could be

obtained

for free. OTOH, that ignorance fee is supposed to be the incentive to

buyer

enlightenment. g


--
Ed
WB6WSN
El Cajon, CA USA



One huge problem is that this guy, if they are BAMA downloads, didn't
do any of the real work of scanning and uploading. Then he didn't have
to compile onto a web site or pay for that web site. THIEF is more the
word that comes to mind. I also have uploaded a few manuals to BAMA for
free use of everyone not to be sold. When I uploaded to BAMA I
transfered my rights to K4XL not to some thief.

I have scanned about 25-30 manuals and uploaded them to BAMA. It is a
lot of work. It takes a considerable amount of time to scan them, crop
and make them look good. Periodically, someone will e-mail and ask me if
I would sell them a copy of a manual. I just e-mail it to them and do
the same when they get approached for a copy of a manual.

These guys are not just thieves but low life dirtbags and all for a few
dollars.

I also have sent manuals to BAMA. These guys are true dirtbags!

I have sent several manuals to the Bama site for posting. For several
years, I even gave away manual copies twice a year for the cost of
postage, if the person wanted to pay for it. These commercial dealers
that flood the BA listings on eBay **** me off so much, I have blocked
them from my search. On a regular basis, if you do a search of
"Hallicrafters" out of 4 pages found, at least 2 are these.....
vultures.