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Chuck Harris wrote:
Cmd Buzz Corey wrote: Chuck Harris wrote: If I go into your house and steal all of your belongings, and then give them to Goodwill, out of the goodness of my heart, then it's ok, right? If you think you can get past the .44 magnum, go ahead. Apparently you have trouble telling the difference between a hypothetical situation, and an offer to burglarize your house. As long as you keep it hyothetical you are safe. |
Chuck Harris wrote:
So, tell me, why do you feel so threatened that you need to announce to the world (that is the audience here) that you are armed and looking for a fight? There was nothing in my post that could possibly make a literate person believe I was planning to burglarize *your* home, and yet your first instinct was to thump your chest and warn off all potential intruders. Where did I say I was looking for a fight? and I don't feel threatened, you come burglarizing my home and you are the one looking for a fight and will certainly feel threathened. You are the one who brought it up, not me. |
How to stop the manual thieves
One way to stop these thieves is to have the BAMA site print on every
page in bold letters "THIS MANUAL IS FROM THE BAMA MANUAL ARCHIVE" or some other wording. This placed on the front cover and table of contents might at least slow down the stupid thieves. Any other legal ideas? |
Chuck Harris wrote:
Cmd Buzz Corey wrote: Chuck Harris wrote: So, tell me, why do you feel so threatened that you need to announce to the world (that is the audience here) that you are armed and looking for a fight? There was nothing in my post that could possibly make a literate person believe I was planning to burglarize *your* home, and yet your first instinct was to thump your chest and warn off all potential intruders. Where did I say I was looking for a fight? Right he If I go into your house and steal all of your belongings, and then give them to Goodwill, out of the goodness of my heart, then it's ok, right? If you think you can get past the .44 magnum, go ahead. You are challenging me to burglarize your house so you can try and shoot me. Get a life chuckie, I in no way was 'challenging' you to burglarize my home, you are the one that first mentioned burglarizing. I simply said if you do, then be prepared to face the consenquences. My hypothetical question, shown above was an attempt to help you to understand that it doesn't matter whether or not a thief sells, or gives away stolen property, a crime has still occurred. And as I said, as long as it remains hypothetical, then you have nothing to worry about. |
Well good luck. I wouldn't want to toss water on your parade, but if the
major music and computer software firms fail at this; I wouldn't hold out much hope of making it theft proof. The best I could recommend is that everyone boycott those folks caught selling pirated material. Any efforts the make it harder would just be a pain in the butt for all those who really appreciate the BAMA site and other places that have help for those in need of assistance. Thanks for the posting.... I wouldn't want to donate to a thief. 73 WB9SMX Gary "No One You Know" wrote in message oups.com... One way to stop these thieves is to have the BAMA site print on every page in bold letters "THIS MANUAL IS FROM THE BAMA MANUAL ARCHIVE" or some other wording. This placed on the front cover and table of contents might at least slow down the stupid thieves. Any other legal ideas? |
On 14 May 2005 04:04:02 -0700, "No One You Know"
wrote: One way to stop these thieves is to have the BAMA site print on every page in bold letters "THIS MANUAL IS FROM THE BAMA MANUAL ARCHIVE" or some other wording. This placed on the front cover and table of contents might at least slow down the stupid thieves. Any other legal ideas? Technically and legally, making a scan and uploading it doesn't transfer any rights. "Thanks" to Disney, copyright can go back as early as 1926. Some manuals may be old enough to be in the public domain (I forget all the rules, but if it's more recent than 1925 you should check), and a company having gone out of business does not automatically make the manuals public domain (though it may reduce the chance of there being anyone to sue you for infringement. There was a recent thread on sci.electronics.design on copying of older HP and Tektronix manuals, and of the companies still holding copyright. Someone got a clarification from one of those companies (I forget which) that manuals can be scanned and put on CDR's and traded 'at cost', but not made available for download on the Internet. Whoever runs BAMA may want to read that thread to see what they might have for download that the company might go after them for. But I can understand the feelings against these ebay profiteers. If you want to put them out of business (and presuming the specific manuals being offered are public domain or permission is granted from the copyright holders), sell them yourself on ebay for $1 or $2 each or whatever copying and postage costs you. A fully loaded CDR should be about $2 or $3 postpaid, and a printout of a scan at whatever it costs, maybe postage plus 20 cents a page (whatever it costs to print with those inkjet cartridges that are 2/3rds the price of a new inkjet printer). ----- http://mindspring.com/~benbradley |
Mr Fed UP wrote:
Well good luck. I wouldn't want to toss water on your parade, but if the major music and computer software firms fail at this; I wouldn't hold out much hope of making it theft proof. The best I could recommend is that everyone boycott those folks caught selling pirated material. Any efforts the make it harder would But legally most everything posted on BAMA *is* pirated material. As far as I know, only Agilent and Tektronix have given license for what BAMA is doing. All these guys on ebay are doing is making BAMA's pirated material available on a different media. -Chuck |
Chuck Harris wrote:
But legally most everything posted on BAMA *is* pirated material. As far as I know, only Agilent and Tektronix have given license for what BAMA is doing. And BAMA isn't attempting to profit from any of it. All these guys on ebay are doing is making BAMA's pirated material available on a different media. -Chuck On BAMA it is free to download, as opposed to ebay where the material is up for sale. These scum are attempting to profit from the work of others that is meant to be available for free. |
Chuck Harris wrote: Mr Fed UP wrote: Well good luck. I wouldn't want to toss water on your parade, but if the major music and computer software firms fail at this; I wouldn't hold out much hope of making it theft proof. The best I could recommend is that everyone boycott those folks caught selling pirated material. Any efforts the make it harder would But legally most everything posted on BAMA *is* pirated material. As far as I know, only Agilent and Tektronix have given license for what BAMA is doing. All these guys on ebay are doing is making BAMA's pirated material available on a different media. -Chuck That being said, all of the other after market manual providers will not be able to provide copies either. Some have been doing this for years. Is there a difference between 'public domain' and 'pirated'? I think so. Anyway, IMO stealing is stealing. |
Behold, No One You Know scribed on tube chassis:
One way to stop these thieves is to have the BAMA site print on every page in bold letters "THIS MANUAL IS FROM THE BAMA MANUAL ARCHIVE" or some other wording. Anyone half-competent with GIMP or PS could strip that in less than five minutes. The best thing is if you don't want it stolen, don't put it on the web. Whicj of course, would defeat the purpose of BAMA. -- Gregg "t3h g33k" http://geek.scorpiorising.ca *Ratings are for transistors, tubes have guidelines* |
"No One You Know" wrote in message oups.com... One way to stop these thieves is to have the BAMA site print on every page in bold letters "THIS MANUAL IS FROM THE BAMA MANUAL ARCHIVE" or some other wording. This placed on the front cover and table of contents might at least slow down the stupid thieves. Any other legal ideas? I don't know if this manual heist would be considered 'stolen' but the link for stolen property reports on Ebay is : http://pages.ebay.com/help/contact_u...n=Continue+%3E Might just get the attention of Ebay if enough people report him and other bipedal fecaloids attempting to profit from BAMA. |
Albert & Btittany Spear wrote:
"No One You Know" wrote in message oups.com... One way to stop these thieves is to have the BAMA site print on every page in bold letters "THIS MANUAL IS FROM THE BAMA MANUAL ARCHIVE" or some other wording. This placed on the front cover and table of contents might at least slow down the stupid thieves. Any other legal ideas? I don't know if this manual heist would be considered 'stolen' but the link for stolen property reports on Ebay is : http://pages.ebay.com/help/contact_u...n=Continue+%3E Might just get the attention of Ebay if enough people report him and other bipedal fecaloids attempting to profit from BAMA. Here is a more honest manual seller. http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...m=3093105 539 |
Hate to be a wet blanket, but how do you know that half of the stuff on BAMA
is not pirated and should never have been posted there in the first place? Not all old schematics & manuals are in the public domain. For instance, SAMS Technical Publishing, http://www.samswebsite.com/photofacts.html , is still alive and well, and they have an understandable interest in keeping people from distributing free, unauthorized copies of their Photofacts to the world. Just because you buy a copy of something, scan it, and upload to the Internet, doesn't mean that it is "yours" to give away to the world. If I scan the latest Tom Clancy novel and post his book on the Internet, I am violating his copyright, pure and simple. The only exceptions would be if : [A] I have Tom Clancy's permission to distribute free copies of his latest novel on the Internet, or, [b] I can prove in a court of law that Tom's copyright has expired or been abandoned for some reason. If I don't have [A] or [b] on my side, then Tom kicks my butt and closes me down. That said, I'm a supporter & lover of sites such as BAMA and www.nostalgiaair.org , which supply valuable information to people around the world. I have used these sites, and pointed fellow collectors to them. But I don't download or upload anything that I think is not authorized. So, be careful about getting too outraged because somebody might be making an unauthorized copy of your uploaded copy which might also be unauthorized. You never owned the copyright in the first place. Here are some links with more information about copyright: http://www.whatiscopyright.org/ http://fairuse.stanford.edu/ http://www.templetons.com/brad/copyright.html http://www.templetons.com/brad/copymyths.html And, the ultimate authority: http://www.copyright.gov/ Regards, Phil Nelson |
On Sat, 14 May 2005 16:45:14 -0400, Cmd Buzz Corey
wrote: Chuck Harris wrote: But legally most everything posted on BAMA *is* pirated material. As far as I know, only Agilent and Tektronix have given license for what BAMA is doing. And BAMA isn't attempting to profit from any of it. All these guys on ebay are doing is making BAMA's pirated material available on a different media. -Chuck On BAMA it is free to download, as opposed to ebay where the material is up for sale. These scum are attempting to profit from the work of others that is meant to be available for free. Personally, if some dummy buys a "manual" from eBay instead of downloading hit themselves from BAMA, they deserve exactly what they get. Raymond Sirois KU2S SysOp: The Lost Chord BBS 607-733-5745 telnet://thelostchord.dns2go.com:6000 |
Hate to be a wet blanket Well you are "Phil Nelson" wrote in message ... Hate to be a wet blanket, but how do you know that half of the stuff on BAMA is not pirated and should never have been posted there in the first place? Not all old schematics & manuals are in the public domain. For instance, SAMS Technical Publishing, http://www.samswebsite.com/photofacts.html , is still alive and well, and they have an understandable interest in keeping people from distributing free, unauthorized copies of their Photofacts to the world. Just because you buy a copy of something, scan it, and upload to the Internet, doesn't mean that it is "yours" to give away to the world. If I scan the latest Tom Clancy novel and post his book on the Internet, I am violating his copyright, pure and simple. The only exceptions would be if : [A] I have Tom Clancy's permission to distribute free copies of his latest novel on the Internet, or, [b] I can prove in a court of law that Tom's copyright has expired or been abandoned for some reason. If I don't have [A] or [b] on my side, then Tom kicks my butt and closes me down. That said, I'm a supporter & lover of sites such as BAMA and www.nostalgiaair.org , which supply valuable information to people around the world. I have used these sites, and pointed fellow collectors to them. But I don't download or upload anything that I think is not authorized. So, be careful about getting too outraged because somebody might be making an unauthorized copy of your uploaded copy which might also be unauthorized. You never owned the copyright in the first place. Here are some links with more information about copyright: http://www.whatiscopyright.org/ http://fairuse.stanford.edu/ http://www.templetons.com/brad/copyright.html http://www.templetons.com/brad/copymyths.html And, the ultimate authority: http://www.copyright.gov/ Regards, Phil Nelson |
Cmd Buzz Corey wrote:
Chuck Harris wrote: But legally most everything posted on BAMA *is* pirated material. As far as I know, only Agilent and Tektronix have given license for what BAMA is doing. And BAMA isn't attempting to profit from any of it. If I go into your house and steal all of your belongings, and then give them to Goodwill, out of the goodness of my heart, then it's ok, right? All these guys on ebay are doing is making BAMA's pirated material available on a different media. -Chuck On BAMA it is free to download, as opposed to ebay where the material is up for sale. These scum are attempting to profit from the work of others that is meant to be available for free. That has nothing to do with anything. If the material is on BAMA without the permission of the copyright owners, giving it away for free is still theft. -Chuck |
Chuck Harris wrote:
If I go into your house and steal all of your belongings, and then give them to Goodwill, out of the goodness of my heart, then it's ok, right? If you think you can get past the .44 magnum, go ahead. |
Cmd Buzz Corey wrote:
Chuck Harris wrote: If I go into your house and steal all of your belongings, and then give them to Goodwill, out of the goodness of my heart, then it's ok, right? If you think you can get past the .44 magnum, go ahead. Apparently you have trouble telling the difference between a hypothetical situation, and an offer to burglarize your house. |
On Sun, 15 May 2005 22:26:55 -0400, Chuck Harris
wrote: Cmd Buzz Corey wrote: Chuck Harris wrote: If I go into your house and steal all of your belongings, and then give them to Goodwill, out of the goodness of my heart, then it's ok, right? If you think you can get past the .44 magnum, go ahead. Apparently you have trouble telling the difference between a hypothetical situation, and an offer to burglarize your house. .... Actually, my opinion is that the .357 Magnum is a much better handgun for personal protection... The .44 does indeed make a bigger hole and has more impact energy, but the .357 creates much less flash and recoil, making it easier to bring the .357 on target for a second shot, should it be needed. Raymond Sirois KU2S SysOp: The Lost Chord BBS 607-733-5745 telnet://thelostchord.dns2go.com:6000 |
Behold, KU2S scribed on tube chassis:
On Sun, 15 May 2005 22:26:55 -0400, Chuck Harris wrote: Cmd Buzz Corey wrote: Chuck Harris wrote: If I go into your house and steal all of your belongings, and then give them to Goodwill, out of the goodness of my heart, then it's ok, right? If you think you can get past the .44 magnum, go ahead. Apparently you have trouble telling the difference between a hypothetical situation, and an offer to burglarize your house. ... Actually, my opinion is that the .357 Magnum is a much better handgun for personal protection... The .44 does indeed make a bigger hole and has more impact energy, but the .357 creates much less flash and recoil, making it easier to bring the .357 on target for a second shot, should it be needed. A .44 with that's been ported is MUCH more controllable ;-) -- Gregg "t3h g33k" http://geek.scorpiorising.ca *Ratings are for transistors, tubes have guidelines* |
In article ,
Phil Nelson wrote: Hate to be a wet blanket, but how do you know that half of the stuff on BAMA is not pirated and should never have been posted there in the first place? Not all old schematics & manuals are in the public domain. For instance, SAMS Technical Publishing, http://www.samswebsite.com/photofacts.html , is still alive and well, and they have an understandable interest in keeping people from distributing free, unauthorized copies of their Photofacts to the world. Just because you buy a copy of something, scan it, and upload to the Internet, doesn't mean that it is "yours" to give away to the world. If I scan the latest Tom Clancy novel and post his book on the Internet, I am violating his copyright, pure and simple. The only exceptions would be if : [A] I have Tom Clancy's permission to distribute free copies of his latest novel on the Internet, or, [b] I can prove in a court of law that Tom's copyright has expired or been abandoned for some reason. Not quite right. Unlike trademark, copyrights _cannot_ be 'abandoned'. A copyright owner can have failed to go after any infringer for 50 years, and then decides to go after _you_. "But everybody else is doing it, without being sued" is NOT a defense. In the U.S. (although _not_ in many other countries), it is possible for a copyright holder to 'disclaim' their copyright rights, via an express statement that they are placing the work "in the public domain". That disclaimer, once made, cannot be withdrawn. Nor can the author prosecute for copyright infringement any action that occurs after the disclaimer. If I don't have [A] or [b] on my side, then Tom kicks my butt and closes me down. Almost correct. :) Qualify it with "if he so chooses", and it is exactly correct. Given the probable dollar value losses due to the unauthorized copying, "if he so chooses" is a VIRTUAL CERTAINTY. And I'm picking a nit that "effectively" makes no difference. grin I'll just add the following caveats: 1) "Anonymous" works -- with no author named, *are* protected by copyright. 2) An inability to identify the current holder of the copyright does *NOT* mean that one is free to copy that material. To avoid potential problems one _must_ have the permission of the copyright holder(s). 3) When a company goes "out of business", *somebody* gets ownership of the property that that company owned. That which is not sold is distributed among the remaining owners of the company. In the case of a corporation, this is anyone who still held shares at the time of the dissolution. This gets *real* messy for intellectual property, see item 2 above. 4) to be 'safe', if you don't have copyright owner permission, you better be able to *prove* that copyright has expired, or has been disclaimed. |
On Sat, 14 May 2005 11:04:02 UTC, "No One You Know"
wrote: One way to stop these thieves is to have the BAMA site print on every page in bold letters "THIS MANUAL IS FROM THE BAMA MANUAL ARCHIVE" or some other wording. This placed on the front cover and table of contents might at least slow down the stupid thieves. Any other legal ideas? well, you have it backwards. Ignoring the issue of who owns the copyright to manuals that are no longer available from the vendor (sounds like they abandoned the copyright to me), the problem isn't that some guy who is short on cash is downloading and selling copies of the manuals, the problem is that no one has unloaded the entire site to CD and isn't selling the "Hallicrafters 1959-1969", "The Collins compendium" or "all tube SSB transmitters 1960 - 1979" or whatever fills 500 meg of CD. Ten Bucks shipping included. Some guy is selling Heathkit schematics on CD. I bought a disk and the first week, needed a piece of info from it. The first person who sells full 500 meg CDs at a low price puts everyone else out of business AND solves the bandwidth problem on BAMA. I would pay 10 or so bucks for a FULL CD figuring that one manual on it might be useful to me someday. de ah6gi/4 Heathstuff (and some Collins 75S-1's, oh and an SX-100 too. |
Cmd Buzz Corey wrote:
If you think you can get past the .44 magnum, go ahead. Apparently you have trouble telling the difference between a hypothetical situation, and an offer to burglarize your house. As long as you keep it hyothetical you are safe. So, tell me, why do you feel so threatened that you need to announce to the world (that is the audience here) that you are armed and looking for a fight? There was nothing in my post that could possibly make a literate person believe I was planning to burglarize *your* home, and yet your first instinct was to thump your chest and warn off all potential intruders. The point being made, before you got scared, was that if you steal material, it really makes no difference legally whether you give it away, or sell it. This applies to copyright infringement, as well as to physical possessions. -Chuck |
Cmd Buzz Corey wrote:
Chuck Harris wrote: So, tell me, why do you feel so threatened that you need to announce to the world (that is the audience here) that you are armed and looking for a fight? There was nothing in my post that could possibly make a literate person believe I was planning to burglarize *your* home, and yet your first instinct was to thump your chest and warn off all potential intruders. Where did I say I was looking for a fight? Right he If I go into your house and steal all of your belongings, and then give them to Goodwill, out of the goodness of my heart, then it's ok, right? If you think you can get past the .44 magnum, go ahead. You are challenging me to burglarize your house so you can try and shoot me. My hypothetical question, shown above was an attempt to help you to understand that it doesn't matter whether or not a thief sells, or gives away stolen property, a crime has still occurred. .... and I don't feel threatened, you come burglarizing my home and you are the one looking for a fight and will certainly feel threathened. You are the one who brought it up, not me. I brought up the hypothetical question because you seemed to have missed an important moral lesson in your upbringing. I hoped that a simple example, that most anyone would understand, would help you to the see the parallel between giving away stolen property, and selling stolen property (hint, the word stolen says it all). It would appear that there were a few more lessons missed. Good luck with your life, -Chuck |
On Sun, 15 May 2005 22:27:19 -0700, Gregg wrote:
Behold, KU2S scribed on tube chassis: On Sun, 15 May 2005 22:26:55 -0400, Chuck Harris wrote: Cmd Buzz Corey wrote: Chuck Harris wrote: If I go into your house and steal all of your belongings, and then give them to Goodwill, out of the goodness of my heart, then it's ok, right? If you think you can get past the .44 magnum, go ahead. Apparently you have trouble telling the difference between a hypothetical situation, and an offer to burglarize your house. ... Actually, my opinion is that the .357 Magnum is a much better handgun for personal protection... The .44 does indeed make a bigger hole and has more impact energy, but the .357 creates much less flash and recoil, making it easier to bring the .357 on target for a second shot, should it be needed. A .44 with that's been ported is MUCH more controllable ;-) No arguments there! Raymond Sirois KU2S SysOp: The Lost Chord BBS 607-733-5745 telnet://thelostchord.dns2go.com:6000 |
If you want to throw the bullsh*t and call it a hypothetical Situation, Then
Hypotheticaly when you trespass onto his properity and into his domicile He will "fear for his life" and blow your f*cking head off. Hypothetically speaking that would be my approach to this issue.. As soon as I "fear for my life", in my own home or on my properity as a result of your illegal entry, I WILL use Lethal Force to defend myself. Just my opinion. Bob "Cmd Buzz Corey" wrote in message ... Chuck Harris wrote: So, tell me, why do you feel so threatened that you need to announce to the world (that is the audience here) that you are armed and looking for a fight? You read it your way I will read it my way..in My opinion, this is you..... Massachusetts, home of, anti gun, kennedy, faggot, democrat, bleeding heart Liberals.. There was nothing in my post that could possibly make a literate person believe I was planning to burglarize *your* home, and yet your first instinct was to thump your chest and warn off all potential intruders. Where did I say I was looking for a fight? and I don't feel threatened, you come burglarizing my home and you are the one looking for a fight and will certainly feel threathened. You are the one who brought it up, not me. Just My Opinion. G Bob |
Chuck Harris wrote:
Robert Hawk wrote: If you want to throw the bullsh*t and call it a hypothetical Situation, Then Hypotheticaly when you trespass onto his properity and into his domicile He will "fear for his life" and blow your f*cking head off. Hypothetically speaking that would be my approach to this issue.. As soon as I "fear for my life", in my own home or on my properity as a result of your illegal entry, I WILL use Lethal Force to defend myself. As will I. ... So, tell me, why do you feel so threatened that you need to announce to the world (that is the audience here) that you are armed and looking for a fight? You read it your way I will read it my way..in My opinion, this is you..... Massachusetts, home of, anti gun, kennedy, faggot, democrat, bleeding heart Liberals.. Hmmm? Let's see, I have only been in Massachusetts twice. I am an NRA life member. I think Teddy Kennedy is a murderer. I am a hetrosexual, a Republican, and a conservative. You missed on all counts... So much for your ability to devine. This was a discussion about BAMA, ebay and manuals. And then you brought up the subject of burglarizing someones home. Quite a bit different than downloading some manuals that are even questionable as to who may or may not have copyrights. |
Chuck Harris wrote:
Cmd Buzz Corey wrote: Chuck Harris wrote: Right he If I go into your house and steal all of your belongings, and then give them to Goodwill, out of the goodness of my heart, then it's ok, right? If you think you can get past the .44 magnum, go ahead. You are challenging me to burglarize your house so you can try and shoot me. Get a life chuckie, I in no way was 'challenging' you to burglarize my home, you are the one that first mentioned burglarizing. I simply said if you do, then be prepared to face the consenquences. No, you said if I think I can get past your 44 magnum, go ahead. That is a challenge. Only if *you* make it a challenge. I just stated what would happen if you were to actually carry out your hypothetical question. My hypothetical question, shown above was an attempt to help you to understand that it doesn't matter whether or not a thief sells, or gives away stolen property, a crime has still occurred. And as I said, as long as it remains hypothetical, then you have nothing to worry about. I never worry about people who tell me what violent things they are going to do to me. As long as you don't do something to warrent those violent things, then you have nothing to worry about. That is usually just bravado from cowards spouting off. Anyone who should attempt to break into my home and I am there, will find out for sure. That isn't hypothetical, that is a fact. |
Robert Hawk wrote:
If you want to throw the bullsh*t and call it a hypothetical Situation, Then Hypotheticaly when you trespass onto his properity and into his domicile He will "fear for his life" and blow your f*cking head off. Hypothetically speaking that would be my approach to this issue.. As soon as I "fear for my life", in my own home or on my properity as a result of your illegal entry, I WILL use Lethal Force to defend myself. As will I. .... So, tell me, why do you feel so threatened that you need to announce to the world (that is the audience here) that you are armed and looking for a fight? You read it your way I will read it my way..in My opinion, this is you..... Massachusetts, home of, anti gun, kennedy, faggot, democrat, bleeding heart Liberals.. Hmmm? Let's see, I have only been in Massachusetts twice. I am an NRA life member. I think Teddy Kennedy is a murderer. I am a hetrosexual, a Republican, and a conservative. You missed on all counts... So much for your ability to devine. This was a discussion about BAMA, ebay and manuals. For some reason, you guys want it to be about posturing and not so veiled threats. I hope you are more calm in real life. Y'all carry on. -Chuck |
Cmd Buzz Corey wrote:
Chuck Harris wrote: Right he If I go into your house and steal all of your belongings, and then give them to Goodwill, out of the goodness of my heart, then it's ok, right? If you think you can get past the .44 magnum, go ahead. You are challenging me to burglarize your house so you can try and shoot me. Get a life chuckie, I in no way was 'challenging' you to burglarize my home, you are the one that first mentioned burglarizing. I simply said if you do, then be prepared to face the consenquences. No, you said if I think I can get past your 44 magnum, go ahead. That is a challenge. My hypothetical question, shown above was an attempt to help you to understand that it doesn't matter whether or not a thief sells, or gives away stolen property, a crime has still occurred. And as I said, as long as it remains hypothetical, then you have nothing to worry about. I never worry about people who tell me what violent things they are going to do to me. That is usually just bravado from cowards spouting off. The ones I worry about more are those that plot in silence. -Chuck |
Cmd Buzz Corey wrote:
Chuck Harris wrote: Cmd Buzz Corey wrote: Chuck Harris wrote: Anyone who should attempt to break into my home and I am there, will find out for sure. That isn't hypothetical, that is a fact. Take it to private e-mail, gunslingers. This has gotten tiresome for the rest of us. -Bill. |
-exray- wrote:
Cmd Buzz Corey wrote: Chuck Harris wrote: Cmd Buzz Corey wrote: Chuck Harris wrote: Anyone who should attempt to break into my home and I am there, will find out for sure. That isn't hypothetical, that is a fact. Take it to private e-mail, gunslingers. This has gotten tiresome for the rest of us. You speak for the entire group? Wow! That must cause you a lot of stress! Ain't no gunslingers here sheriff. Just a couple of wannabes, and my sorry self. -Chuck |
Robert Hawk wrote: If you want to throw the bullsh*t and call it a hypothetical Situation, Then Hypotheticaly when you trespass onto his properity and into his domicile He will "fear for his life" and blow your f*cking head off. Hypothetically speaking that would be my approach to this issue.. As soon as I "fear for my life", in my own home or on my properity as a result of your illegal entry, I WILL use Lethal Force to defend myself. Just my opinion. Bob "Cmd Buzz Corey" wrote in message ... Chuck Harris wrote: So, tell me, why do you feel so threatened that you need to announce to the world (that is the audience here) that you are armed and looking for a fight? You read it your way I will read it my way..in My opinion, this is you..... Massachusetts, home of, anti gun, kennedy, faggot, democrat, bleeding heart Liberals.. There was nothing in my post that could possibly make a literate person believe I was planning to burglarize *your* home, and yet your first instinct was to thump your chest and warn off all potential intruders. Where did I say I was looking for a fight? and I don't feel threatened, you come burglarizing my home and you are the one looking for a fight and will certainly feel threathened. You are the one who brought it up, not me. Just My Opinion. G Bob So people that steal manuals should be shot? And what does Mr. Kennedy, faggots, or liberals have to do with it. Defending your property or life is one thing but idle threats of violence really are uncalled for. I'll bet I can still pee higher up the wall than you ;-p |
On 17 May 2005 16:49:03 -0700, ";-p"
wrote: I'll bet I can still pee higher up the wall than you ;-p From a bathroom wall many years ago: Anyone can pee on the floor; be a hero -- crap on the ceiling. |
Hey, this is more fun than a hockey game! Somebody else want to throw their
weight around? Dube K4DWW ";-p" wrote in message oups.com... Robert Hawk wrote: If you want to throw the bullsh*t and call it a hypothetical Situation, Then Hypotheticaly when you trespass onto his properity and into his domicile He will "fear for his life" and blow your f*cking head off. Hypothetically speaking that would be my approach to this issue.. As soon as I "fear for my life", in my own home or on my properity as a result of your illegal entry, I WILL use Lethal Force to defend myself. Just my opinion. Bob "Cmd Buzz Corey" wrote in message ... Chuck Harris wrote: So, tell me, why do you feel so threatened that you need to announce to the world (that is the audience here) that you are armed and looking for a fight? You read it your way I will read it my way..in My opinion, this is you..... Massachusetts, home of, anti gun, kennedy, faggot, democrat, bleeding heart Liberals.. There was nothing in my post that could possibly make a literate person believe I was planning to burglarize *your* home, and yet your first instinct was to thump your chest and warn off all potential intruders. Where did I say I was looking for a fight? and I don't feel threatened, you come burglarizing my home and you are the one looking for a fight and will certainly feel threathened. You are the one who brought it up, not me. Just My Opinion. G Bob So people that steal manuals should be shot? And what does Mr. Kennedy, faggots, or liberals have to do with it. Defending your property or life is one thing but idle threats of violence really are uncalled for. I'll bet I can still pee higher up the wall than you ;-p |
Duby Todd wrote: Hey, this is more fun than a hockey game! Somebody else want to throw their weight around? Dube K4DWW So people that steal manuals should be shot? And what does Mr. Kennedy, faggots, or liberals have to do with it. Defending your property or life is one thing but idle threats of violence really are uncalled for. I'll bet I can still pee higher up the wall than you ;-p Aw heck, I was just kidding around. At my age I'm just lucky I can still pee! |
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