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Old May 23rd 05, 12:28 AM
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John Smith wrote:
... shame, searchable text is nice... I have finereader, what is the
graphic format of the scanned pages... perhaps it can work with that?


The original scans are 300 dpi grayscale, PGM (portable graymap)
format. Easily translated to TIFF.

The data in the PDF itself is 300 dpi one-bit-deep black&white data,
compressed... converted from the grayscale data via thresholding.

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Old May 23rd 05, 01:52 AM
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Well, will have to play with this awhile... never attempted to use
finereader with existing scans... and not having much luck working something
out--I expected it to be more straight-forward...

Warmest regards,
John

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In article ,
John Smith wrote:
... shame, searchable text is nice... I have finereader, what is the
graphic format of the scanned pages... perhaps it can work with that?


The original scans are 300 dpi grayscale, PGM (portable graymap)
format. Easily translated to TIFF.

The data in the PDF itself is 300 dpi one-bit-deep black&white data,
compressed... converted from the grayscale data via thresholding.

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Old May 23rd 05, 01:56 AM
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Dave:

Are you familiar with microsoft reader... it reads ebooks in something of a
"paperback style." I am not sure if there is a counterpart in the Linux
world... are you dual boot?

Warmest regards,
John

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In article ,
John Smith wrote:
... shame, searchable text is nice... I have finereader, what is the
graphic format of the scanned pages... perhaps it can work with that?


The original scans are 300 dpi grayscale, PGM (portable graymap)
format. Easily translated to TIFF.

The data in the PDF itself is 300 dpi one-bit-deep black&white data,
compressed... converted from the grayscale data via thresholding.

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Old May 23rd 05, 02:42 AM
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On Sun, 22 May 2005 17:52:48 -0700, "John Smith"
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--I expected it to be more straight-forward...


For Pete's sake. You're getting something for free and then bitching
about it.

Sheeeeeeeee

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Old May 23rd 05, 03:46 AM
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I don't think you grasp what is being done here... I am not even
contemplating using it... but transforming it into other formats for others
use... 33 megs is pretty big for a book... down about one-meg would be more
useful...

Warmest regards,
John

"Dan Richardson arrl net" k6mhatdot wrote in message
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On Sun, 22 May 2005 17:52:48 -0700, "John Smith"
wrote:

--I expected it to be more straight-forward...


For Pete's sake. You're getting something for free and then bitching
about it.

Sheeeeeeeee





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Old May 23rd 05, 03:47 AM
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.... or, rather, to about one-meg+ in size...

John

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I don't think you grasp what is being done here... I am not even
contemplating using it... but transforming it into other formats for others
use... 33 megs is pretty big for a book... down about one-meg would be
more useful...

Warmest regards,
John

"Dan Richardson arrl net" k6mhatdot wrote in message
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On Sun, 22 May 2005 17:52:48 -0700, "John Smith"
wrote:

--I expected it to be more straight-forward...


For Pete's sake. You're getting something for free and then bitching
about it.

Sheeeeeeeee





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Old May 23rd 05, 04:21 AM
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Dave:

Are you familiar with microsoft reader... it reads ebooks in something of a
"paperback style."


Not familiar with it, don't really care to be. I have a policy of
avoiding the use of Microsoft software on my systems except when no
decent alternative exists.

I am not sure if there is a counterpart in the Linux
world...


Adobe Acrobat Reader has a "continuous, facing" display option - pairs
of pages side by side - which I suspect is close to the "paperback
style" to which you refer. Works fine with the PDFs I'm distributing.

are you dual boot?


No, I don't trust that mode, for a couple of reasons. Some M$
operating systems are known to rather aggressively overwrite or
destroy other OS's partitions or boot blocks, sometimes without asking
or warning. And, given all of the security exploits against Windows
and Explorer and etc. floating around, I feel safer not allowing
Windows to have direct access to my hardware.

I do occasionally run Windows (usually Win98) in a VmWare virtual
machine, with a virtualized hard drive, for things like tax software,
ham-radio programming utilities, etc.. That way, it's running safely
in user mode, can't get to the real hardware, and I can wipe it and
start over from a checkpoint save without affecting the rest of my
system.

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Old May 23rd 05, 04:28 AM
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In article ,
John Smith wrote:

I don't think you grasp what is being done here... I am not even
contemplating using it... but transforming it into other formats for others
use... 33 megs is pretty big for a book... down about one-meg would be more
useful...


Getting it down to 1 meg would necessarily sacrifice almost all of the
detail in the photographs - they'd be unviewable. 1 meg might be
enough space for the text, and possibly for the black&white charts and
line drawings (as bitmaps) but the photos would be lost.

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Old May 23rd 05, 04:45 AM
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For Pete's sake. You're getting something for free and then
bitching
about it.

=========================

"For Pete's sake" is an interesting American exclamation. How did it
arise?

Did it arise in the 1930's? Any connection with the villain Pegleg
Pete who appeared in Mickey Mouse cartoons of that era?
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Old May 23rd 05, 04:54 AM
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The pics would be converted to .jpeg... the text, in an efficient ebook
format, would be held compressed--very small... I did say one-meg+, I was
thinking about the pics (graphics) when I included the '+'... black and
white compresses very small, gray scale not as well... still, 33 megs is
HUGE! I don't see it being any larger then 3 megs at worst case... 1/10 is
good...

Warmest regards,
John

"Dave Platt" wrote in message
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In article ,
John Smith wrote:

I don't think you grasp what is being done here... I am not even
contemplating using it... but transforming it into other formats for
others
use... 33 megs is pretty big for a book... down about one-meg would be
more
useful...


Getting it down to 1 meg would necessarily sacrifice almost all of the
detail in the photographs - they'd be unviewable. 1 meg might be
enough space for the text, and possibly for the black&white charts and
line drawings (as bitmaps) but the photos would be lost.

--
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Hosting the Jade Warrior home page: http://www.radagast.org/jade-warrior
I do _not_ wish to receive unsolicited commercial email, and I will
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