Mike Andrews wrote:

I run a non-Windows OS at home, and can't run Flash -- nor would I if I
could. I don't want eye-candy websites on my browser. I do want to be able
to see things with a minimal browse, such as Lynx, or with a GUI browser
such as Mozilla Firefox. I never, never, never use IE: IE is a way to let
bad guys subvert your system to their own purposes.

Here's a precept to design websites by, from someone with expertise and
experience both:

Any site should be designed so that it's usable as a
dead file tree with no server-side smarts. Any sort of
active pages or search engines should be an add-on, not
essential.
-- Peter da Silva, in a.s.r.

--
Mike Andrews


Take a look at: http://home.earthlink.net/~mike.terrell/ if you have
a few minutes.

It is all written with Wordpad and uses a CSS to keep the design
uniform, along with a split Javascript to hide the E-mail address. I
use this simple format on all the pages I create. It is tested to work
with several older and current browsers, even though faults are found
when its run though one of the HTML verification sites. When I correct
the "Errors" it doesn't work with some browsers, so it will stay the way
it is, as long as most browsers will work with it.

You can still access the sites without CSS or Javascript enabled, but
you do lose some formatting and it takes longer to navigate the site.

--
Link to my "Computers for disabled Veterans" project website deleted
after threats were telephoned to my church.

Michael A. Terrell
Central Florida

Michael A. Terrell wrote:

You can still access the sites without CSS or Javascript enabled, but
you do lose some formatting and it takes longer to navigate the site.

Here is a site that has some very complex elements - such that require a
reasonably up to date browser (I.E. 5.x Netscape 7.x or such - and must
have JavaScript) - yet loads very fast; and has several neat features
that don't "weigh it down".

http://www.earthworksaudio.com

best regards...
--
randy guttery

A Tender Tale - a page dedicated to those Ships and Crews
so vital to the United States Silent Service:
http://tendertale.com

The site won't work with lynx though.

On Mon, 11 Jul 2005, Randy or Sherry Guttery wrote:

Michael A. Terrell wrote:

You can still access the sites without CSS or Javascript enabled, but
you do lose some formatting and it takes longer to navigate the site.

Here is a site that has some very complex elements - such that require a
reasonably up to date browser (I.E. 5.x Netscape 7.x or such - and must have
JavaScript) - yet loads very fast; and has several neat features that don't
"weigh it down".

http://www.earthworksaudio.com

best regards...
--
randy guttery

A Tender Tale - a page dedicated to those Ships and Crews
so vital to the United States Silent Service:
http://tendertale.com

Michael A. Terrell wrote:
Mike Andrews wrote:

I run a non-Windows OS at home, and can't run Flash -- nor would I
if I could. I don't want eye-candy websites on my browser. I do want
to be able to see things with a minimal browse, such as Lynx, or
with a GUI browser such as Mozilla Firefox. I never, never, never
use IE: IE is a way to let bad guys subvert your system to their own
purposes.

Here's a precept to design websites by, from someone with expertise
and experience both:

Any site should be designed so that it's usable as a
dead file tree with no server-side smarts. Any sort of
active pages or search engines should be an add-on, not
essential.
-- Peter da Silva, in a.s.r.

--
Mike Andrews


Take a look at: http://home.earthlink.net/~mike.terrell/ if you
have a few minutes.

It is all written with Wordpad and uses a CSS to keep the design
uniform, along with a split Javascript to hide the E-mail address. I
use this simple format on all the pages I create. It is tested to
work with several older and current browsers, even though faults are
found when its run though one of the HTML verification sites. When I
correct the "Errors" it doesn't work with some browsers, so it will
stay the way it is, as long as most browsers will work with it.

You can still access the sites without CSS or Javascript enabled,
but you do lose some formatting and it takes longer to navigate the
site.

Michael, in FireFox (with Java), when I click on a link, then hit the 'back'
button on my browser, the text on the home page is visible for only the link
that I previously clicked. All the others are replaced by a straight line
within their respective windows. Reloading the page has no effect. I have
to click a link, then hit the 'home' link to reload the page in it's
original form.

Is this a known issue?

jak

jakdedert wrote:

Michael, in FireFox (with Java), when I click on a link, then hit the 'back'
button on my browser, the text on the home page is visible for only the link
that I previously clicked. All the others are replaced by a straight line
within their respective windows. Reloading the page has no effect. I have
to click a link, then hit the 'home' link to reload the page in it's
original form.

Is this a known issue?

jak


No one has ever mentioned it, but I will check into it. Thank you
for the report.

--
Link to my "Computers for disabled Veterans" project website deleted
after threats were telephoned to my church.

Michael A. Terrell
Central Florida

jakdedert wrote:

Michael, in FireFox (with Java), when I click on a link, then hit the 'back'
button on my browser, the text on the home page is visible for only the link
that I previously clicked. All the others are replaced by a straight line
within their respective windows. Reloading the page has no effect. I have
to click a link, then hit the 'home' link to reload the page in it's
original form.

Is this a known issue?

jak


I tested it with Foxfire 1.0.4 and it work like its supposed to if
you use the navigation on the web page, but does what you said with the
browser's back button.

I'll see what I can do about it, but I may have to settle for a note
to remind people to use the links on the web pages.

--
Link to my "Computers for disabled Veterans" project website deleted
after threats were telephoned to my church.

Michael A. Terrell
Central Florida