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On Mon, 21 Nov 2005 02:01:40 -0500, "Mark Oppat"
wrote:

beerbarrel wrote...
"I think we killed more than 20000 of those *******s....hopefully we
will get even more."


wow, this swerved way off...from UPS service to taxes to the war....totally
off topic, sorry, just went down this path I have to say my last...

*******s?


You have your stance and I have mine......That's the magic in freedom
of opinion ehh?

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Chuck Harris wrote:

Uhmmm, the war in Iraq hasn't cost $8.9 trillion...

Well, his math *is* a little off. However, the easily researchable and
generally acknowledged figure of *six BILLION dollars per month* ain't
exactly cheap...especially when we consider all the problems on the home
front, like an out of control health care system and the jobs issue
(30,000 GM employees blown out the door today). Maybe we could find a
better use for that $6B/month.

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I sure cherish that freedom, sir! And, I hope it spreads across the globe.
We dont always use it like we should, though.

Mark Oppat


"Beerbarrel" wrote in message
...
On Mon, 21 Nov 2005 02:01:40 -0500, "Mark Oppat"
wrote:

beerbarrel wrote...
"I think we killed more than 20000 of those *******s....hopefully we
will get even more."


wow, this swerved way off...from UPS service to taxes to the
war....totally
off topic, sorry, just went down this path I have to say my last...

*******s?


You have your stance and I have mine......That's the magic in freedom
of opinion ehh?

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Beerbarrel wrote:


Uhmmm, the war in Iraq hasn't cost $8.9 trillion... You really
are mentally rather lazy there senior.

-Chuck



Agreed!

This isnt the war cost, this is how much Mr Bush has cost us since he
has been in power.Did you even READ the LINK?

You are really pathetic but you cant change the numbers or performance
of our President.


Bush started out with billions of dollars surplus from Mr. Clinton.
This should surprise no one, Bush's Father had us in the hole too. It
took a Democrat 8 years to get things balanced and the present Prez
****ed it all away.

He squandered it all, giving tax cuts to the rich and oil companies and
so on AND getting us into a war that we didnt need to start. Now we are
8 trillion in the hole with no end in sight.


Lazy Senior

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xrongor wrote:


ah the conservatives always bring it down to this level when they have
nothing else to say.

randy




Well said Mr. Liberal! Want to share the cat food?


see what i mean?

randy


Randy
You are a breath of fresh air in this forum. Whenever Conservatives cant
prove you wrong they call you a Liberal or try to ridicule you.

Aint nothing wrong with being a Liberal, nor is there anything wrong
with being a Conservative. They all make mistakes but Bush conservatives
NEVER admit they are wrong or make mistakes. that is why they are so
dangerous...

Lazy Senior

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Back to the math, my calculations show that a $9 trillion total
national debt with 300 million people is $30,000 for every man, woman
and child - from babies in the cradle to old people, taxpaying or not.
Family of 4, that's $120,000 owed to the nation's creditors.

If the war costs $200 billion (pulled that out of my butt, but it's way
more than the initial $87B), that's $666 for every man, woman and
child. Nice round number huh. :-)

I wonder what the vote would have been if it had not been in Congress
but by a vote of the people, worded thus, "Should the government charge
you $666 for each man, woman and child in your household, to attack a
country that has never attacked the United States, with whom we are not
currently at war? BTW this is in addition to the current war in
Afganistan."

It would have been 299 million against.

Tox

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toxcrusadr wrote:



I wonder what the vote would have been if it had not been in Congress
but by a vote of the people, worded thus, "Should the government charge
you $666 for each man, woman and child in your household, to attack a
country that has never attacked the United States, with whom we are not
currently at war?


And what if they had worded thus "Would you be willing to pay $666 so
that we can begin breaking up the radical muslim gang of thugs that just
killed 4000 innocent Americans and threaten to kill more?"

There are people who spend more than $666 year at Starbucks.

-BM

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Lazy Senior wrote:
Beerbarrel wrote:


Uhmmm, the war in Iraq hasn't cost $8.9 trillion... You really
are mentally rather lazy there senior.

-Chuck




Agreed!


This isnt the war cost, this is how much Mr Bush has cost us since he
has been in power.Did you even READ the LINK?

Of course I didn't.

John Burns asked:

"What has the monetary cost of the war been up to this point,
and how many taxpayers does it assume?"

And you replied:

"The estimated population of the United States is 297,767,295
so each citizen's share of this debt is $27,189.05."

You were clearly either very lazy in your response, or trying to imply
that the war has cost $8 trillion.


You are really pathetic but you cant change the numbers or performance
of our President.

And you are more pathetic, but you can't change that, or the numbers and
performance of our President.


Bush started out with billions of dollars surplus from Mr. Clinton.
This should surprise no one, Bush's Father had us in the hole too. It
took a Democrat 8 years to get things balanced and the present Prez
****ed it all away.

The president proposes the budget, but it is congress that legislates
the budget. It doesn't matter how sane the budget presented by the
White House is, after congress gets done adding their pork to it, it
is insane. I'm still looking for that line item veto...

He squandered it all, giving tax cuts to the rich and oil companies and
so on AND getting us into a war that we didnt need to start. Now we are
8 trillion in the hole with no end in sight.

Uh huh.

-Chuck

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Bill wrote:




And what if they had worded thus "Would you be willing to pay $666 so
that we can begin breaking up the radical muslim gang of thugs that just
killed 4000 innocent Americans and threaten to kill more?"


-BM

Dont try to re-write history, the Iraq War had nothing to do with 9-11

Lazy Senior

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toxcrusadr wrote:


I wonder what the vote would have been if it had not been in Congress
but by a vote of the people, worded thus, "Should the government charge
you $666 for each man, woman and child in your household, to attack a
country that has never attacked the United States, with whom we are not
currently at war? BTW this is in addition to the current war in
Afganistan."

It would have been 299 million against.

Tox


Add to that: In addition to the $$ cost, your son, grandson, husband,
brother may die.......

Lazy Senior