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Old February 8th 06, 12:08 AM posted to rec.radio.amateur.boatanchors
COLIN LAMB
 
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Ron has a good idea if the club knows about the equipment. Unfortunately,
many ham clubs are comprised of appliance operators who do not know the
value nor care about the older stuff.

One problem I have found is that a few hams have taken the time to write
down values of equipment. But, if they do not know what they are doing, it
can be a giant disappointment. I have seen in one case where an elderly ham
got some prices from friends, who got it off eBay. The problem was that his
stuff had sat in a moist garage and was rusty, while the pieces were valued
at what a pristine and restored piece had sold for. If you are going to
price it, make sure it is realistic values.

Not long ago, I recall someone purchased a beautiful SX-88 on eBay for about
$5,000. The purchaser wanted one and could afford it. Unfortunately,
people see that and assume their ordinary and unrestored SX-88 is worth
$5,000. I bought an SX-88 that had broken dials, rusty case and neede a lot
of TLC. It was on the other end of the spectrum. If I did not spend so
much time on the internet, I could have it restored by now.

I am building a vacation home for the express purpose of sneaking a personal
radio museum next to it. My plan is to store each radio, with all of the
accessories and manuals together in their appropriate display area. One of
the big problems I have when assisting in estates is finding power supplies,
manuals, microphones and other items. Cannot tell you how many rotators I
have sold without control boxes, because the family threw away the control
box.

Another sad story that still haunts me is when the father of a friend died
with his ham gear in the basement. I valued it for estate tax purposes and
sold much of it. However, there were 3 items I wanted to buy and so I left
them with my friend and told him I would determine a fair price and buy
them. He wanted to give them to me. They were an Elmac AF-67, new in the
box, and two new gold Vibroplexes. I spent about a week deternining how
much they were worth and went back to buy them. Alas, all three had been
tossed in the dumpster.

Now, I take the stuff first and argue about price later.

73, Colin K7FM

Colin K7FM


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Old February 8th 06, 02:34 AM posted to rec.radio.amateur.boatanchors
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COLIN LAMB wrote in message
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Ron has a good idea if the club knows about the equipment. Unfortunately,
many ham clubs are comprised of appliance operators who do not know the
value nor care about the older stuff.


I thought we were talking about Boatanchor gear, not general everyday
ham equipment...
The idea for the auction wasn't about the local 2 meter ham operator
club. BAs should go to a collector event. That's where the knowledgable
buyers are. A bunch of 2 meter comandos wouldn't know what to do
with a BA.

Ron



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Old February 8th 06, 06:55 PM posted to rec.radio.amateur.boatanchors
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"COLIN LAMB" wrote in message
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They were an Elmac AF-67, new in the
box, 73, Colin K7FM



Ohh I hate when that happens.

Ahhh! The Icom 706 of the 50's. or... or... is the 706 the AF-67 of the
nineties? I can never get that straight. (:-)

73, Steve, K,9.D;C'I


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Old February 9th 06, 02:44 AM posted to rec.radio.amateur.boatanchors
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On Tue, 7 Feb 2006, Chuck Harris wrote:

Smokey wrote:
Thanks Colin. As is so often the case, your comments make more sense than
most on this newsgroup. I should have figured that I could expect vacuous
suggestions ("Did you ever think of donating to a radio club? Duh") and
sarcasm not to mention the tedious stand-uyp comics (who should keep their
day jobs). Jeeesh...I am NOT giving the stuff away now (hopefully I've got
a
lot of years left).. Nor am I interested in walking away with any money
from
it. Nor am I interested in one entity getting it all. I just am interested
in the stuff being received by someone who will appreciate it. As for those
vultures who fly around widows trying to peck them clean, I am all too
aware
of that situation. We as hams don't have very clean hands in that respect.
We've all seen it.My whole reason for putting this posting out is to plan
for something instead of my executor landfilling my good stuff. I think I
am
going to go about this another way because, other than your comments, most
others were worthless.

Smokey


In spite of your attitude, I would like to put in a couple of points: we are
engaged in a hobby that is rather unique. The stuff we see as valuable, most
everyone else in the world sees as trash. It's a shame, but that is the way
it is.


We should not single ourselves out. How many people spend tons of money on
antique-junk cars? Hunting guns, stamp collections, and all manner of
other hobbies. They all have to deal with their collections.


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If you are at all like me, the value you see in a piece is largely
a result of nostalgia.

In the first place, once you die, it isn't going to make any difference
to you what happens to your material possessions. It should make some
difference to you, before you die, knowing the degree of a mess you will be
leaving behind for your spouse and heirs to clean up.

About all you can do, is try and not accumulate trash, and to leave some
instructions to your executor that itemize the major pieces of your
collection,
and assigns each piece a realistic value. Your instructions should
suggest how to find likely customers for your collection, and perhaps
even give the task of disposal to some willing friend.

And if all your good stuff ends up in the landfill, then perhaps, it
will join you in the afterlife. (eg. you can rot together ;-)

-Chuck (who will be leaving behind quite a mess!)

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This kind of thing, it seems to me, might well be something the ARRL/QST
should be willing to shed a little more light and help on. Anyone know if
it has been suggested to ARRL to welcome, for example, at regional
hamfests some kind of large auction of such gear?

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On Tue, 7 Feb 2006, Ron in Radio Heaven wrote:

I am president of the Carolinas Chapter of the Antique Wireless Association.
One of the services our club provides to our members and their families
is the auctioning of estate collections at our annual conference in
Charlotte NC.

We have done a number of these over the years and so far we've
gotten several times what the family thought the junque was worth.

Last year there was so much stuff in the collection that we had to have
2 auctions. It took all day for seven people to load the collection
in a 30 foot race car trailer and then haul it 5 hours and unload it
in a warehouse. We then spent many, many hours cataloging
the collection for the auction and bagging small items in zip lock bags.
We then loaded it all in a u haul truck and unloaded it at the Sheraton.
At the time the club only charged 5% auction fee.
That's not much for all that work. It's 10% now.

An auction at a radio meet is by far the best way to dispose of items
like this. You may have to haul it to the site, but there's no shipping
or packing involved. And it's at an event where poeple have
pockets full of money and are looking for radios to buy.

Unless it's really rare, early gear, most museums are not going to want
it. The best thing is to get it in the hands of those that do.

73, Ron
cc-awa.org







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Old February 9th 06, 04:22 AM posted to rec.radio.amateur.boatanchors
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Straydog wrote:


This kind of thing, it seems to me, might well be something the ARRL/QST
should be willing to shed a little more light and help on. Anyone know
if it has been suggested to ARRL to welcome, for example, at regional
hamfests some kind of large auction of such gear?


Well and good but someone has to "manage" it. Their 'compensation' may
come as being the guy who has first pick.

In my case, if I keel over tomorrow, the XYL knows who to call to help
get rid of my stuff. If Guy A doesn't want to mess with it she also
knows Guy B.

Anybody who has a houseload of radio junk and a family should have a
clue given as to how to unload the stuff. Thats what friends are for.
Same as if you have a dozen St. Bernard puppies@!

Pick your best radio friend and hope he doesn't die before you.


-Bill
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