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Lionel Sharp wrote:
Ah memories - I used an SCR522 Rx & Tx on 2 metres way way back. They
were a great piece of gear and used by lots of hams.

Before you apply power to the receiver (or transmitter) check out the
.006mf mica HT bypass capacitors. Some of the sets used Micamold
capacitors which are dark brown in colour and are in fact paper not
mica. They used to break down with monotonous regularity.

Best to replace the lot (15 or so)in the receiver (and Tx). Some
SCR522's had good mica capacitors and if I remember they were light
brown in colour.

There were a couple of versions of the receiver that I know of. One
version had a squelch relay whilst the other version had electronic squelch.

I do have a manual but to copy the circuit it would be in 3 pieces and I
dont know how the small print would come out.Also have the wiring diagram.

There is a relative simple modification to make the RX tunable and not
crystal controled

You should be able to get a circuit locally if you hunt around, if not
let me know and will try sending you a copy.




Lionel,

Why don't we create an SCR 522 fan club? I eventually replaced the
832 PA with an 829B and ran about 70 watts, modulated with a pair of
1625's on two metres AM. Golly, those were my "wonder years". I was
still a kid in high school. I still have some 522 stuff about, but no
complete units. I do recall that all the equipment tags have the RAF
insignia.

John

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Litzendraht wrote:
Lionel Sharp wrote:

Ah memories - I used an SCR522 Rx & Tx on 2 metres way way back. They
were a great piece of gear and used by lots of hams.

Before you apply power to the receiver (or transmitter) check out the
.006mf mica HT bypass capacitors. Some of the sets used Micamold
capacitors which are dark brown in colour and are in fact paper not
mica. They used to break down with monotonous regularity.

Best to replace the lot (15 or so)in the receiver (and Tx). Some
SCR522's had good mica capacitors and if I remember they were light
brown in colour.

There were a couple of versions of the receiver that I know of. One
version had a squelch relay whilst the other version had electronic squelch.

I do have a manual but to copy the circuit it would be in 3 pieces and I
dont know how the small print would come out.Also have the wiring diagram.

There is a relative simple modification to make the RX tunable and not
crystal controled

You should be able to get a circuit locally if you hunt around, if not
let me know and will try sending you a copy.





Lionel,

Why don't we create an SCR 522 fan club? I eventually replaced the
832 PA with an 829B and ran about 70 watts, modulated with a pair of
1625's on two metres AM. Golly, those were my "wonder years". I was
still a kid in high school. I still have some 522 stuff about, but no
complete units. I do recall that all the equipment tags have the RAF
insignia.

John

G'Day John
I am sure that many of those who used the SCR522 in the past have passed
on. When I used my SCR522 on 2 metres there was no TV and consequently
no TVI. I think that TV changed all that. Even had one that was
converted to 6 metres (the TX not RX).

There was a rather large mains power supply, the RA62 produced in the
USA for the military.

The RAAF (Royal Australian Air Force) also had mains power supply made
under contract and they are heeeavy.

The RAF and RAAF designations was the TR5043.

I believe it was descended from the RAF TR1143 VHF set which was used
very successfully in the early days of WW2 for fighter control. When the
Americans saw the successful use of VHF they took a TR1143 back to the
USA and "Copied" it and produced it as the SCR522.

Only ever saw one TR1143 in a surplus shop. I think that the TR1143
would be very rare nowadays.

Someone will correct me if I am wrong about this.

73
Lionel L Sharp, VK4NS
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Lionel Sharp wrote:

I believe it was descended from the RAF TR1143 VHF set which was used
very successfully in the early days of WW2 for fighter control. When the
Americans saw the successful use of VHF they took a TR1143 back to the
USA and "Copied" it and produced it as the SCR522.


You make it sound like we (the US) were doing something evil, by lending
you our manufacturing capability, and helping you with the war effort.

-Chuck
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Chuck Harris wrote:
Lionel Sharp wrote:

I believe it was descended from the RAF TR1143 VHF set which was used
very successfully in the early days of WW2 for fighter control. When
the Americans saw the successful use of VHF they took a TR1143 back to
the USA and "Copied" it and produced it as the SCR522.



You make it sound like we (the US) were doing something evil, by lending
you our manufacturing capability, and helping you with the war effort.

-Chuck

G'day Chuck
No that was not the intention. Perhaps you can suggest another word that
is more to your liking
Lionel L Sharp, VK4NS
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Old February 15th 06, 02:19 AM posted to rec.radio.amateur.boatanchors
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Chuck Harris wrote:
You make it sound like we (the US) were doing something evil, by lending
you our manufacturing capability, and helping you with the war effort.



Chuck,
I think it might have been more a case of "immitation is the best
form of flattery". I wasn't old enough to remember, but us Yanks were
probably using all HF radio in our fighters and bombers. But once we
got involved in the war effort, the success of the RAF and others with
VHF radio must have told us that we needed similiar equipment. We could
have certainly started from ground zero with our own designs, but
reliable aircraft communications was a vital factor at the time, and
VHF, being still a new form of transmission in those days, would have
taken months and months on the drawing boards and lab and field testing
to come up with a viable, operational unit.

I can see where it could have been quite desireable to take a known
working design, put our Yankee spin on it and get it into production.
We and the Allies had a big job ahead of us over there and time was of
essence. And yes,we were lending and loaning supplies, equipment,
manufacturing, (and fighting men as well), as a part of a team effort
to resolve a terrific world threat.

John



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Old February 15th 06, 03:28 AM posted to rec.radio.amateur.boatanchors
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Litzendraht wrote:
Chuck Harris wrote:
You make it sound like we (the US) were doing something evil, by lending
you our manufacturing capability, and helping you with the war effort.



Chuck,
I think it might have been more a case of "immitation is the best
form of flattery". I wasn't old enough to remember, but us Yanks were
probably using all HF radio in our fighters and bombers. But once we
got involved in the war effort, the success of the RAF and others with
VHF radio must have told us that we needed similiar equipment. We could
have certainly started from ground zero with our own designs, but
reliable aircraft communications was a vital factor at the time, and
VHF, being still a new form of transmission in those days, would have
taken months and months on the drawing boards and lab and field testing
to come up with a viable, operational unit.

I can see where it could have been quite desireable to take a known
working design, put our Yankee spin on it and get it into production.
We and the Allies had a big job ahead of us over there and time was of
essence. And yes,we were lending and loaning supplies, equipment,
manufacturing, (and fighting men as well), as a part of a team effort
to resolve a terrific world threat.

John


Hi John,

Everything I read says the SCR-522 was a redesign of the British TR-1123,
that was done to make it possible to mass produce it with US tooling.

Certainly the US used the TR-1123 design as a quick way of getting a working
VHF design into the war as quickly as possible. It was several years before
the much more capable ARC-1 came out.

My only objection was the way the OP stated that it was copy. It had the
familiar taste of US bashing. If I read the OP's intentions incorrectly,
and it sounds like I probably did, I am sorry.

-Chuck
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Chuck Harris wrote:
Litzendraht wrote:

Chuck Harris wrote:

You make it sound like we (the US) were doing something evil, by lending
you our manufacturing capability, and helping you with the war effort.




Chuck,
I think it might have been more a case of "immitation is the best
form of flattery". I wasn't old enough to remember, but us Yanks were
probably using all HF radio in our fighters and bombers. But once we
got involved in the war effort, the success of the RAF and others with
VHF radio must have told us that we needed similiar equipment. We could
have certainly started from ground zero with our own designs, but
reliable aircraft communications was a vital factor at the time, and
VHF, being still a new form of transmission in those days, would have
taken months and months on the drawing boards and lab and field testing
to come up with a viable, operational unit.

I can see where it could have been quite desireable to take a known
working design, put our Yankee spin on it and get it into production.
We and the Allies had a big job ahead of us over there and time was of
essence. And yes,we were lending and loaning supplies, equipment,
manufacturing, (and fighting men as well), as a part of a team effort
to resolve a terrific world threat.

John



Hi John,

Everything I read says the SCR-522 was a redesign of the British TR-1123,
that was done to make it possible to mass produce it with US tooling.

Certainly the US used the TR-1123 design as a quick way of getting a
working
VHF design into the war as quickly as possible. It was several years
before
the much more capable ARC-1 came out.

My only objection was the way the OP stated that it was copy. It had the
familiar taste of US bashing. If I read the OP's intentions incorrectly,
and it sounds like I probably did, I am sorry.

-Chuck

G'day Chuck.

There was no intention of US bashing or of there being something evil in
my story. John (see above) stated the situation better than I and I
agree with his sentiments.

Lionel L Sharp, VK4NS
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Lionel Sharp wrote:
Chuck Harris wrote:
Litzendraht wrote:

Chuck Harris wrote:

You make it sound like we (the US) were doing something evil, by lending
you our manufacturing capability, and helping you with the war effort.



Chuck,
I think it might have been more a case of "immitation is the best
form of flattery". I wasn't old enough to remember, but us Yanks were
probably using all HF radio in our fighters and bombers. But once we
got involved in the war effort, the success of the RAF and others with
VHF radio must have told us that we needed similiar equipment. We could
have certainly started from ground zero with our own designs, but
reliable aircraft communications was a vital factor at the time, and
VHF, being still a new form of transmission in those days, would have
taken months and months on the drawing boards and lab and field testing
to come up with a viable, operational unit.

I can see where it could have been quite desireable to take a known
working design, put our Yankee spin on it and get it into production.
We and the Allies had a big job ahead of us over there and time was of
essence. And yes,we were lending and loaning supplies, equipment,
manufacturing, (and fighting men as well), as a part of a team effort
to resolve a terrific world threat.

John



Hi John,

Everything I read says the SCR-522 was a redesign of the British TR-1123,
that was done to make it possible to mass produce it with US tooling.

Certainly the US used the TR-1123 design as a quick way of getting a
working
VHF design into the war as quickly as possible. It was several years
before
the much more capable ARC-1 came out.

My only objection was the way the OP stated that it was copy. It had the
familiar taste of US bashing. If I read the OP's intentions incorrectly,
and it sounds like I probably did, I am sorry.

-Chuck

G'day Chuck.

There was no intention of US bashing or of there being something evil in
my story. John (see above) stated the situation better than I and I
agree with his sentiments.

Lionel L Sharp, VK4NS


For more details, check out www.aafradio.org - the Americans could not
communicate with t-he British who were using VHF in their aircraft, so
the SCR522 was a "copy" of the British design until the Americans could
do the necessary R & D. No slight on our American friends intended -
stop being so paranoid! - when we do want to insult you, you will be
left in no doubt hi hi

Andrew VK3BFA.

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