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Corbin Ray April 12th 04 03:47 PM

Air America Radio: Hypocritical & Desperate
 
http://michnews.com/artman/publish/article_3231.shtml




Sid Schweiger April 13th 04 03:23 AM

The only "hypocritical and desperate" thing about the linked article is its
author, who is severely put upon because one program on WLIB got kicked out by
Air America.

As far as I know, WLIB's ENTIRE SCHEDULE was displaced by AA.

Another so-called journalist of the open-mouth-insert-foot school.


Tom Betz April 13th 04 03:23 AM

Quoth "Corbin Ray" in
:

http://michnews.com/artman/publish/article_3231.shtml


Richard Mullenax is a hypocrytical liar.

I would point out to the peripatetic Mr. Mullenax that contrary to his rabid
assertions, Air America didn't steal anything from anyone. Air America has
contracted with Inner City Broadcasting, the owner of WLIB (run, by the way,
by Pierre and Percy Sutton, African-Americans both) to lease WLIB. Inner City
has been losing money on its full-time Carribean programming, and now has an
opportunity to make a profitable deal, while at the same time providing a
public service to the community of New York, with wide-ranging, informative
and entertaining programming. Do black-owned radio stations not have the
right to make a profit? Would Mr. Mullenax restrict what Inner City may do
with its own property? Or is his problem with the deal more related to the
nature of the public service being provided by Air America -- providing a
counter to the ubiquitous hail of right-wing hate radio?

The hypocrisy lies not in Air America, but rather in Mr. Mullenax's
protestations.

--
"I am afeard there are few die well that die in a battle; for how can they
charitably dispose of anything when blood is their argument? Now, if these
men do not die well, it will be a black matter for the King that led them
to it; who to disobey were against all proportion of subjection." - W.S.


T. Early April 13th 04 04:46 PM


"Tom Betz" wrote in message
...
Quoth "Corbin Ray" in
:

http://michnews.com/artman/publish/article_3231.shtml


Richard Mullenax is a hypocrytical liar.

I would point out to the peripatetic Mr. Mullenax that contrary to

his rabid
assertions, Air America didn't steal anything from anyone. Air

America has
contracted with Inner City Broadcasting, the owner of WLIB (run, by

the way,
by Pierre and Percy Sutton, African-Americans both) to lease WLIB.

Inner City
has been losing money on its full-time Carribean programming, and

now has an
opportunity to make a profitable deal, while at the same time

providing a
public service to the community of New York, with wide-ranging,

informative
and entertaining programming. Do black-owned radio stations not have

the
right to make a profit? Would Mr. Mullenax restrict what Inner City

may do
with its own property? Or is his problem with the deal more related

to the
nature of the public service being provided by Air America --

providing a
counter to the ubiquitous hail of right-wing hate radio?


I guess the simple question, shorn of all the rhetoric, is whether Air
America replaced programming by the Coalition of Artists and
Activists or not. Did they (i.e., is Air America now where this
programming was previously)?

I also find this rather confusing. You refer to wide-ranging,
informative and entertaining programming. But I thought we were
talking about Air America?





Bill Blomgren April 13th 04 04:46 PM

On 13 Apr 2004 02:23:07 GMT, pamthis (Sid Schweiger) wrote:

is its
author, who is severely put upon because one program on WLIB got kicked out by
Air America.

As far as I know, WLIB's ENTIRE SCHEDULE was displaced by AA.

Another so-called journalist of the open-mouth-insert-foot school.


And he didn't approach the fact that the network is renting two stations in
San Francisco, knocking asian programming off the air there. Yet another
minority. And of course the spanish talker in Chicago. That leaves spanish
music on the air there, however.


Corbin Ray April 13th 04 04:46 PM

I don't care who owns WLIB. But I will never forgive them for killing one of
the best radio stations in middle America. Remember what happened to WOWO,
50,000-watt blowtorch from Fort Wayne that covered 38 states and half of
Canada? The owner of WLIB bought them a few years ago, decreased their power
and changed their directional pattern just so that WLIB could increase its
own power to cover NYC. Then the owners dumped their damaged goods and sold
WOWO to someone else.

That was one of the saddest days in broadcast history for me. WOWO used to
have an incredible signal here in Kentucky. Back in the 70s, my radio
buttons were set on WLS, WCFL, WOWO, and 15 WLAC. And even though they
weren't still playing music, I was listening to them steadily every night,
right up to the sad night when their strong signal became a noisy whisper.

So as far as I'm concerned, WLIB can take a flying leap into the Hudson
River and let us have WOWO back.




Brian Running April 13th 04 11:48 PM

I would point out to the peripatetic Mr. Mullenax that contrary to his
rabid
assertions, Air America didn't steal anything from anyone.


"Peripatetic" means "walking" or "one who walks."



RHF April 13th 04 11:48 PM

SS,

The 'original' License for certain "Minority Owned" Broadcasters
were to SERVE the 'under-served' Minority Community of a specific
Media Market, and 'create' "Diversity in Radio Broadcasting".

So we now see the selling out of the Minority Community to
'benefit' the interests of a few White Liberal ELITISTS. These
Liberal Elitists only claim to fame is their Leftist Socialist
Agenda and using a few radio stations to act as propaganda outlets.

"Air America" in 'name' ONLY
In-Fact Very Ugly American Liberal Elitist in Reality !


ssi ~ RHF
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= = = pamthis (Sid Schweiger) wrote in message
= = = ...
The only "hypocritical and desperate" thing about the linked article is its
author, who is severely put upon because one program on WLIB got kicked out by
Air America.

As far as I know, WLIB's ENTIRE SCHEDULE was displaced by AA.

Another so-called journalist of the open-mouth-insert-foot school.



LW April 13th 04 11:48 PM

"Corbin Ray" wrote ...

Remember what happened to WOWO, 50,000-watt blowtorch from Fort Wayne that
covered 38 states and half of Canada?


Remember it well. Before FM played rock, night time AM was all we had.
WKBW / 1510 / Buffalo - Tom Shannon and others.
WABC / 770 / NYC / Cousin Brucie.
WOWO - Ft. Wayne
WLS - Chicago
CKLW / 800 / Somewhere in Canada - came on when our local 800 left the air.
WWVA / 1170 / Wheeling - had to love those pre-profit Stair preachers.

Wanna go waaaaayyyyy back?
WCKY / Cincinnati One, Ohio .. Wayne Rainey and the Rainey Family.

I miss 'em all. :-(

[ Moderator's note: CKLW is in Windsor, Ontario, across the river from
Detroit. They are still on the air and you can visit their website at
http://www.am800cklw.com/ . CKLW-FM 93.9 flipped formats from Oldies to
Adult Album Alternative a number of years ago and became CIDR, 93.9 The River.
When I left that part of the country last year they'd flipped again, to some
sort of Soft Rock format. ]


David Eduardo April 13th 04 11:48 PM


"Corbin Ray" wrote in message
...
I don't care who owns WLIB. But I will never forgive them for killing one
of
the best radio stations in middle America. Remember what happened to WOWO,
50,000-watt blowtorch from Fort Wayne that covered 38 states and half of
Canada?


First, WOWO did not cover 38 states.

There were, at the time of the facilities changes on WOWO, stations with
night operations in Kansas City, Anaheim, CA, Portland, OR (50 kw KEX), San
Juan, PR and Dallas, TX. In addition, a dominant station on 1190 is KEWK, a
10 kw operation in Guadalajara, Mexico, as well as a half-dozen other
fulltimers in Mexico on 1190. WOWO was always directional, going back to
when Westinghouse downgraded it a half-century or more ago so KEX could
become a 1-B clear channel station. It sent little power to the West, to
protect KEX. And KEX did the same so it could run 50 kw. It got a signal
into parts of eastern Ontario, some of Quebec and occasionally in the
Maritimes... but much of that is Francophone and WOWO was hardly of
interest.

WOWO was limited to consistent coverage of maybe a dozen states or parts of
them at night, and NE Indiana, South Central Michigan and a piece of Ohio in
daytime.

Since very little radio listening is done at night (and hasn't been since
the 50's), the important issue is whether the station has decent coverage of
the Ft. Wayne market. Even nearby markets and towns, which did not have
local stations in the 50's and before, now have, in most cases, too many
stations.




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