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Old July 6th 04, 06:35 PM
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This has been posted in this and other newsgroups for more times than anyone
can remember, but apparently you haven't bothered to read it even once: Talk
show hosts are entertainers. They are NOT sources of fact and were never meant
to be.


A person who comments on the news (wether a lawyer, garbage collector
or talk show host) is not being an ENTERTAINER- he is being- guess
what? RIGHT! A NEWS COMMENTATOR !

A song and dance man performing on stage or on the radio is called an
-guess what! RIGHT ! AN ENTERTAINER !

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Old July 7th 04, 08:40 PM
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A person who comments on the news (wether a lawyer, garbage collector or talk
show host) is not being an ENTERTAINER- he is being- guess what? RIGHT! A NEWS
COMMENTATOR !

You can keep saying that until you're blue in the face, but that doesn't make
you correct...and it only shows your lack of understanding of the broadcast
business.

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Old July 7th 04, 08:40 PM
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"misterfact" wrote in message
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This has been posted in this and other newsgroups for more times than

anyone
can remember, but apparently you haven't bothered to read it even

once: Talk
show hosts are entertainers. They are NOT sources of fact and were

never meant
to be.


A person who comments on the news (wether a lawyer, garbage collector
or talk show host) is not being an ENTERTAINER- he is being- guess
what? RIGHT! A NEWS COMMENTATOR !


A person commenting on the news is - guess what? RIGHT! He's NOT A
REPORTER! The commentary is an OPINION!

The play-by-play announcer provides tha facts of what happened in the game.
The color COMMENTATOR gives his opinion of the game and/or player.



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Old July 9th 04, 02:44 AM
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"Paul Jensen" wrote in message ...
"misterfact" wrote in message
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This has been posted in this and other newsgroups for more times than

anyone
can remember, but apparently you haven't bothered to read it even

once: Talk
show hosts are entertainers. They are NOT sources of fact and were

never meant
to be.


A person who comments on the news (wether a lawyer, garbage collector
or talk show host) is not being an ENTERTAINER- he is being- guess
what? RIGHT! A NEWS COMMENTATOR !


A person commenting on the news is - guess what? RIGHT! He's NOT A
REPORTER! The commentary is an OPINION!


A person who says he is reading a news report verbatum right off the
wire service is a NEWS REPORTER

A person who says he is reading a news report verbatum right off the
wire service and inserts LIES in the report- is......

(FILL IN THE BLANK)

The play-by-play announcer provides tha facts of what happened in the game.
The color COMMENTATOR gives his opinion of the game and/or player.


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Old July 10th 04, 06:09 AM
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"misterfact" wrote in message
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A person who comments on the news (wether a lawyer, garbage collector
or talk show host) is not being an ENTERTAINER- he is being- guess
what? RIGHT! A NEWS COMMENTATOR !


A person commenting on the news is - guess what? RIGHT! He's NOT A
REPORTER! The commentary is an OPINION!


A person who says he is reading a news report verbatum right off the
wire service is a NEWS REPORTER


uh....no he's not. If he reads a news item, then comments on it, he is not
a reporter, but a commentator. Commenting on the news item he just read.
Now if someone does this, you've heard the news story and you've heard the
opinion. You can decide. Oh wait - you want to decide for everyone else
what they hear. Maybe you could try China. Or Cuba.





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Old July 7th 04, 08:40 PM
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"misterfact" wrote in message
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This has been posted in this and other newsgroups for more times than anyone
can remember, but apparently you haven't bothered to read it even once: Talk
show hosts are entertainers. They are NOT sources of fact and were never meant
to be.


A person who comments on the news (wether a lawyer, garbage collector
or talk show host) is not being an ENTERTAINER- he is being- guess
what? RIGHT! A NEWS COMMENTATOR !


Sorry, but there you're wrong (as the FCC has defined it, anyway.) Limbaugh et.al.
are entertainers, as the programming they provide is entertainment programming which
is not subject to the more demanding tests of a newscast. Further, even though they
comment on current affairs (another facet of journalism) as entertainers they are
still not held accountable for facts, differing opinions or, for that matter, pretty
much anything else.

A song and dance man performing on stage or on the radio is called an
-guess what! RIGHT ! AN ENTERTAINER !


Right.....so now you can understand that your crusade is without merit. The FCC has
bigger fish to fry. Try getting this kind of programming re-classified, and restore
the Fairness Doctrine to its previous role in providing a broad sampling of opinion
on the broadcast media. Then you might have a case.
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Old July 7th 04, 08:40 PM
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"misterfact" wrote in message
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This has been posted in this and other newsgroups for more times than
anyone
can remember, but apparently you haven't bothered to read it even once:
Talk
show hosts are entertainers. They are NOT sources of fact and were
never meant
to be.


A person who comments on the news (wether a lawyer, garbage collector
or talk show host) is not being an ENTERTAINER- he is being- guess
what? RIGHT! A NEWS COMMENTATOR !


But a person who chats about social and political issues is chatting... a
form of entertainment.

A song and dance man performing on stage or on the radio is called an
-guess what! RIGHT ! AN ENTERTAINER !


Rush Limbaugh, in the 1988 R&R Talk Radio Seminar in Washington, stated he
was first and foremost an entertainer. Talk shows are listened to for their
entertainment value. News shows are listened to for their informational
value.

Paraphrasing a Spanish saying, "you can't get pears from an elm tree."


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Old July 9th 04, 02:45 AM
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"David Eduardo" wrote in message ...
"misterfact" wrote in message
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This has been posted in this and other newsgroups for more times than
anyone
can remember, but apparently you haven't bothered to read it even once:
Talk
show hosts are entertainers. They are NOT sources of fact and were
never meant
to be.


A person who comments on the news (wether a lawyer, garbage collector
or talk show host) is not being an ENTERTAINER- he is being- guess
what? RIGHT! A NEWS COMMENTATOR !


But a person who chats about social and political issues is chatting... a
form of entertainment.


How about a talk show host who reads a news story from a news
service posting and inserts his own LIES in the story- and passes it
off as having been read verbatum? HuM?

A song and dance man performing on stage or on the radio is called an
-guess what! RIGHT ! AN ENTERTAINER !


Rush Limbaugh, in the 1988 R&R Talk Radio Seminar in Washington, stated he
was first and foremost an entertainer. Talk shows are listened to for their
entertainment value. News shows are listened to for their informational
value.

Paraphrasing a Spanish saying, "you can't get pears from an elm tree."


Who ever brought up the name "Limbaugh" in all this? Why would you
immediately mention Rush Limbaugh regarding this topic of falsifying
the news? Limbaugh is hardly an expert at labeling himself. Sorry-
when ANYONE professes to be reading facts (wether from a news service
or from a medical journal)- and inserts his own LIES and then tells us
"I'm reading this verbatum"- YOU may label that "entertainment" but I
think most of us label it something else.

p.s. Are you Rush Limbaugh posing as David Eduardo?

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Old July 9th 04, 05:14 AM
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"misterfact" wrote in message
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"David Eduardo" wrote in message news:cchg2n$4d8


But a person who chats about social and political issues is chatting... a
form of entertainment.


How about a talk show host who reads a news story from a news
service posting and inserts his own LIES in the story- and passes it
off as having been read verbatum? HuM?


How do you know that? The news services the media get are often not the same
content as what you can get for free online. And a news commentator can,
legitimately, insert comments as they read a story. An analogy would be a
movie commentator who inserts comments between movie clips.

Rush Limbaugh, in the 1988 R&R Talk Radio Seminar in Washington, stated
he
was first and foremost an entertainer. Talk shows are listened to for
their
entertainment value. News shows are listened to for their informational
value.

Paraphrasing a Spanish saying, "you can't get pears from an elm tree."


Who ever brought up the name "Limbaugh" in all this? Why would you
immediately mention Rush Limbaugh regarding this topic of falsifying
the news?


I brought up Limbaugh because he made the statement I wanted to cite. If
Mickey Mouse had made it, I would credit the rhodent instead. The point was
to show that even the most listened to host is aware that talk shows based
on commentary are entertainment.

Limbaugh is hardly an expert at labeling himself.


And out of the millions who listen to him, you are the only one perceptive
enough to spot a lie? Or maybe the other 19,999,999 people realize he is
commenting, engaging in hyperbole, making fun of things, and generally
trying to entertain.

Sorry-
when ANYONE professes to be reading facts (wether from a news service
or from a medical journal)- and inserts his own LIES and then tells us
"I'm reading this verbatum"- YOU may label that "entertainment" but I
think most of us label it something else.


You label it your way. You are playing salmon in this argument, and doing
some serious swimming upstream against the current.

p.s. Are you Rush Limbaugh posing as David Eduardo?


No, I Am The Walrus.



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