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Sir Circumference wrote:
Is AM Radio Harmful? Only if you listen to it. Oh, yeah? Try dropping a Satellite 800 on your foot. -- "The Democrats are all over this. Democratic strategists feel John Kerry's war record means he can beat Bush. They say when it comes down to it, voters will always vote for a war hero over someone who tried to get out of the war. I'll be sure to mention that to Bob Dole when I see him." -- Jay Leno |
"Dan Robbins" wrote in message ... There's a Franklin at N 41.6 and w 93.3: http://www.desmoinesbroadcasting.com...use _9867.jpg I don't know if it still exists, but KELO 1320 used to even advertise it had a Franklin. |
On 8 Sep 2004 19:00:59 GMT, clifto wrote:
Tim Perry wrote: since the dawn if time he earth has been drenched in radio waves and radiation. since the advent of electromagnetic telecommunications and power grid distribution mans lifespan has dramatically increased. therefore radio waves are good for you. By that reasoning, so are carbon dioxide and feces. No carbon dioxide, no plants, little oxygen. No feces, little agriculture. Well, some places anyway. :-) OTOH, no feces, very few politicians. |
"clifto" wrote in message ... Tim Perry wrote: since the dawn if time he earth has been drenched in radio waves and radiation. since the advent of electromagnetic telecommunications and power grid distribution mans lifespan has dramatically increased. therefore radio waves are good for you. By that reasoning, so are carbon dioxide and feces. by George i think hes got it! consider: CO2 is necessary for tree/plant life. human/animal waste products enrich the soil, which aids plant growth. which provides healthy food, which gives us humans more time to build and operate radio stations for the enjoyment of the multitudes. the more people the more the cume and TSL therefore the more cash flow and life is wonderful. searching back trying to find who added all these freaking cross posts... this thread just started out in alt.radio,alt.radio.broadcasting |
"clifto" wrote in message
... Tim Perry wrote: since the dawn if time he earth has been drenched in radio waves and radiation. since the advent of electromagnetic telecommunications and power grid distribution mans lifespan has dramatically increased. therefore radio waves are good for you. By that reasoning, so are carbon dioxide and feces. Read what he was replying to. That's his point. The reasoning doesn't hold water. -- McWebber "Richter points to the lack of legal action against his company as proof that he's operating appropriately." Information Week, November 10, 2003 |
"David Eduardo" wrote in message ... "Dan Robbins" wrote in message ... There's a Franklin at N 41.6 and w 93.3: http://www.desmoinesbroadcasting.com...use _9867.jpg I don't know if it still exists, but KELO 1320 used to even advertise it had a Franklin. In deference to Steve who says the previous thread is dead, let me answer David's question about KDKA's "Franklin"....but only to say that KDKA's Franklin wasn't truly that. A Franklin radiator looks like two self-supporting towers, one inverted on top the other, fat ends touching. The one such that I remember (and I'd have to think that most of us have seen the picture) is WLW's tower that participated in the superpower experiments in the 30s. KDKA's radiator was simply described in the license as a center-fed vertical radiator, where the base impedance and input power was determined through quasi-indirect means at the input to the balun necessary to match the balanced feed point with the unbalanced transmission line (in years past, this stick was fed with balanced feed line, not unlike VHF twin lead on acid...hams know this feed line as "ladder" feedline, because of the characteristic cylindrical insulators placed at regular lengths along the conductors to maintain the correct separation between those conductors). KDKA's antenna was fairly broadbanded, which if I remember correctly is a feature of center-fed radiators. But WLW's Franklin, because of the larger cross-section where current was higher, had a very nice, minimally-sloped reactance curve, and thus a very consistent, symmetrical impedance...if you ever heard WLW when they played music in the 70s, it really sounded great. KDKA's system had, of course, a ground system, to help pull down the skywave, but due to the fact that my manager (who shall go nameless to protect the embarassed) let the neighborhood kids ride their BMX motorcycles on the property (she thought that the presence of life on the transmitter grounds would deter vandalism), breaking a significant number of radials that were exposed by rutting after heavy rains dredged out the BMX paths, it didn't work all that well...on solar max periods, we'd often get fading well within our local metro coverage area because so much power went skyward and came back down, just slightly out-of-phase with the ground wave. The antenna I had direct experience with was replaced in the mid 90s, but from what I've heard the only thing that was changed was the steel....the basic design was retained, and the counterpoise was repaired. -- ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- If there's nothing that offends you in your community, then you know you're not living in a free society. Kim Campbell - ex-Prime Minister of Canada - 2004 ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- For direct replies, take out the contents between the hyphens. -Really!- |
A Franklin radiator looks like two self-supporting towers, one inverted on top the other, fat ends touching. Nope. A Franklin is defined as a center-fed sectional, which is 180 degrees over 180 degrees. The base of the bottom section is connected to the ground system by an impedance, usually a capacitor. KSTP's Franklin is not a Frankin on account it is 179 degrees over 179 degrees. A true Franklin has an efficiency of 510 mV/m/kW at 1 km. KSTP's certainly equals that, although it is classified by the FCC as a conventional sectional. KDKA's sectional is just that. As was WOAI's. 120 degrees over 120 degrees. WHO's radiator isn't a Franklin, either, it is a "WHO Type", and is so classified by the FCC. It is 300 degrees tall. A true Franklin has the best horizontal field of any radiator. A WHO-type radiator probably has the best anti-fading performance of any radiator. |
A Franklin radiator looks like two self-supporting towers, one inverted on top the other, fat ends touching. Naw ... that's a Blaw-Knox, named for the company which manufactured them. Not many still standing today. |
Peter H. wrote:
A Franklin radiator looks like two self-supporting towers, one inverted on top the other, fat ends touching. Nope. A Franklin is defined as a center-fed sectional, which is 180 degrees over 180 degrees. The base of the bottom section is connected to the ground system by an impedance, usually a capacitor. So it is asymmetric, with the two sections slightly different lengths, or the base capacitor is used to compensate for that? If it were in free air, it would simply be a vertical dipole, but since the ground is below it, the electrical lengths of the bottom leg is changed, right? KSTP's Franklin is not a Frankin on account it is 179 degrees over 179 degrees. What does this do to the pattern in real terms? --scott -- "C'est un Nagra. C'est suisse, et tres, tres precis." |
"Peter H." wrote in message ... A Franklin radiator looks like two self-supporting towers, one inverted on top the other, fat ends touching. Naw ... that's a Blaw-Knox, named for the company which manufactured them. Not many still standing today. I think there are a couple. New Hampshire (WFEA?), WSM, WLW, and the WBT installation. WADO took theirs down when the new 50 kw DA was built 3-4 years ago. |
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