McWebber wrote:


What did the study examine? News? Or all of the Fox broadcasts including
their commentators?


Quote from the study:

" Few studies provide an objective measure of the slant of news,
and none has provided a way to link such a measure to ideological
measures of other political actors. That is, none of the existing
measures can say, for example, whether the New York Times is more
liberal than Tom Daschle or whether Fox News is more conservative
than Bill Frist. We provide such a measure. Namely, we compute an
ADA score for various news outlets, including the New York Times,
the Los Angeles Times, USA Today, the Drudge Report, Fox News?
Special Report, and all three networks? nightly news shows.

Our results show a very significant liberal bias. All of the
news outlets except Fox News? Special Report received a score to the
left of the average member of Congress. Moreover, by one of our
measures all but three of these media outlets (Special Report, the
Drudge Report, and ABC?s World News Tonight) were closer to the
average Democrat in Congress than to the median member of the House
of Representatives. One of our measures found that the Drudge
Report is the most centrist of all media outlets in our sample. Our
other measure found that Fox News? Special Report is the most
centrist. These findings refer strictly to the news stories of the
outlets. That is, we omitted editorials, book reviews, and letters
to the editor from our sample. "

Doug McDonald

In article ,
Doug McDonald wrote:

McWebber wrote:


What did the study examine? News? Or all of the Fox broadcasts including
their commentators?


Quote from the study:

" Few studies provide an objective measure of the slant of news,
and none has provided a way to link such a measure to ideological
measures of other political actors. That is, none of the existing
measures can say, for example, whether the New York Times is more
liberal than Tom Daschle or whether Fox News is more conservative
than Bill Frist. We provide such a measure. Namely, we compute an
ADA score for various news outlets, including the New York Times,
the Los Angeles Times, USA Today, the Drudge Report, Fox News?
Special Report, and all three networks? nightly news shows.

Our results show a very significant liberal bias. All of the
news outlets except Fox News? Special Report received a score to the
left of the average member of Congress. Moreover, by one of our
measures all but three of these media outlets (Special Report, the
Drudge Report, and ABC?s World News Tonight) were closer to the
average Democrat in Congress than to the median member of the House
of Representatives. One of our measures found that the Drudge
Report is the most centrist of all media outlets in our sample. Our
other measure found that Fox News? Special Report is the most
centrist. These findings refer strictly to the news stories of the
outlets. That is, we omitted editorials, book reviews, and letters
to the editor from our sample. "

Doug McDonald



One man's liberalism is another man's conservatism. The "average member
of Congress" would look like an antideluvian right-winger in England.
Ditto in the US of the late 1940s.

But in the US the whole "true left" end ot the spectrum of public
opinion, socialism, is missing, neatly excised by the long pressure of
the Cold War. Now the American right wing is busily propogandizing us
into believing that traditional liberals, who have always been staunchly
pro-capitalist and are more like libertarians than anything else known,
are "leftists".

They'll probably succeed, too.

Leonard

--
"Everything that rises must converge"
--Flannery O'Connor

Leonard Martin wrote:

But in the US the whole "true left" end ot the spectrum of public
opinion, socialism, is missing, neatly excised by the long pressure of
the Cold War.



You mean the Communists and Socilaists.

"Center" means what it means. Of course, to quote the
famous Centist Democrat, Bill Clinton, it all depends on the
meaning of the word "is".

Those that say "Fox News is right wing" are simply
misusing the word "is", not the phrase "right wing".
These people are living in the world of 50 years ago
when Communism and Socialism were actually active. Today,
Fox is centrist.

Doug McDonald

"Leonard Martin" wrote in message
...
But in the US the whole "true left" end ot the spectrum of public
opinion, socialism, is missing, neatly excised by the long pressure of
the Cold War. Now the American right wing is busily propogandizing us
into believing that traditional liberals, who have always been staunchly
pro-capitalist and are more like libertarians than anything else known,
are "leftists".

They'll probably succeed, too.


Leonard, that is a very telling statement. Is that an observation of your
own as I'd love to pass that along with proper attribution.

Charles Tomaras
Seattle, WA

In article ,
"Charles Tomaras" wrote:

"Leonard Martin" wrote in message
...
But in the US the whole "true left" end ot the spectrum of public
opinion, socialism, is missing, neatly excised by the long pressure of
the Cold War. Now the American right wing is busily propogandizing us
into believing that traditional liberals, who have always been staunchly
pro-capitalist and are more like libertarians than anything else known,
are "leftists".

They'll probably succeed, too.


Leonard, that is a very telling statement. Is that an observation of your
own as I'd love to pass that along with proper attribution.

Charles Tomaras
Seattle, WA



An observation of my own indeed. Here, this is my wisdom. Go and share
it with the world and be my prophet.

Leonard

--
"Everything that rises must converge"
--Flannery O'Connor

"Doug McDonald" wrote in message
...
McWebber wrote:


What did the study examine? News? Or all of the Fox broadcasts including
their commentators?



snip irrelevant stuff

These findings refer strictly to the news stories of the
outlets.

And if anyone can watch the majority of the Fox network, (90% of which would
not be considered news stories), and still say they are not biased way to
the right, I'd like to see their nose grow as they say it.

--
McWebber
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