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On 23 Feb 2005 03:24:41 GMT, "Blue Cat" wrote:
There are some that I came upon: WGY 810 kHz, Schenectady, NY "G" for General Electric, "Y" last letter in Schenectady. KGO 810 kHz, San Francisco, CA "G" for GE, "O" last letter in San Francisco. GE owned both stations many years ago. WROW 590 kHz, Albany, NY "Row!" (like a dog growling) "Watchdog of the Capital District". WPTR 1540 kHz, Albany, NY (back in the 1960s), Patroon Broadcasting Corp. WROV 1240 kHz, Roanoke, VA (back before 1990s) "RO" for Roanoke, "V" for Virginia. WSLS 610 kHz, Roanoke, VA (Before 1980), Shenandoah Life (insurance) Station WQBA 1140 kHz, Miami, FL (Spanish speaking) Q, pronounced "coo", BA as in "bah". Said together, it is "Cuba" as said in Spanish. WEAF (later WNBC, WRCA and WFAN) was next in sequence after the call letters that the FCC originally offered and the owners rejected - WDAM. WEVD (now WEPN) stood for Eugene V. Debs, the labor union leader who helped found the Socialist Party and was jailed for criticizing World War I. WCFL (I'm not sure what that is now) was Chicago Federation of Labor WLS (then owned by Sears) was the World's Largest Store KYW doesn't stand for anything but it has an interesting migratory history, having originated in Chicago, then Philadelphia, Cleveland and back to Philadelphia. WJZ is another call associated with AT&T and Westinghouse which has done some migration. Originally the NBC Blue Network (later ABC) call in New York, it is now the call for the Westinghouse (later CBS) TV station in Baltimore. I don't think you can actually buy a call from one station to use on another station but Ted Turner bribed the MIT student radio station WTBS (Technology Broadcasting System) to change its call to WMBR so that the call WTBS would become available to his TV station. Also, are there any sets of calls in which the AM/FM and TV stations are hundreds of miles apart other than for KCBS? KCBS is in San Francisco. KCBS-TV (originally KNXT, from KNX for the Los Angeles Evening Express) and KCBS-TV are in Los Angeles. |
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On 23 Feb 2005 03:24:41 GMT, "Blue Cat" wrote:
WROV 1240 kHz, Roanoke, VA (back before 1990s) "RO" for Roanoke, "V" for Virginia. WSLS 610 kHz, Roanoke, VA (Before 1980), Shenandoah Life (insurance) Station For future historical reference with these two: The WROV calls landed on 96.3 Martinsville, VA, which inherited 1240's history as "The Rock of Virginia" for the Roanoke/Lynchburg market. 1240 is now WGMN ("The Game", sports), simulcast with Lynchburg's WVGM/1320. The WSLS calls are still on TV channel 10, the R/L market's NBC affiliate. 610 eventually became WSLC, for decades the area's dominant country station. The format and WSLC calls migrated to FM 94.9, where it exists today as "Star Country". For a time, WSLC/610 simulcasted the new FM country signal, and is now WVBE(AM)... the AM and Roanoke simulcast of Lynchburg-targetted urban FM station "Vibe 100" (WVBE[FM] 100.1). That station was once WLYK ("Lynchburg's K", I presume), and IT used to simulcast Roanoke top 40 WXLK/92.3 before breaking out on its own with the new format in 2001. |
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"Blue Cat" wrote in message ... There are some that I came upon: Interesting list... here's another: WCCO, Minneapolis/St. Paul, MN (830 KHz). W-C-CO stands for Washburn Crosby Co., a milling company that eventually became the food giant, General Mills. Jackie |
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Followups set to rrb only, because I don't know how applicable this is to
shortwave. Michael A. Terrell wrote: Steve Sobol wrote: I could offer tons more, but isn't someone collecting these and putting them on a website, or am I not recalling correctly? Steven J. Sobol Sorry No, don't be! I was just curious, because we have this discussion once every year or two. In fact, I'll add some... A local Christian TV station bought an existing low power station in Lake county Florida. The call letters were WIYE so they cam up with "We Inspire You Everyday" Later, they went full power and changed their call to WACX for "ACTS TV" because it was as close as they could get to what they wanted. WSVN Channel 7 Miami, Florida. WSYX Channel 6 Columbus, Ohio. WTHR Channel 13, Indianapolis, Indiana. WFOR Channel 4 Miami. And WFOR used to be WCIX Channel 6... WEWS-TV 5 Cleveland, Ohio, owned by Scripps-Howard and one of the first TV stations in the country. Callsign stands for "Edward W. Scripps." WOIO Channel 19 Cleveland. I've never asked but I always assume the calls stand for "Ohio." WXIX Channel 19 Cincinnati, Ohio. XIX is the Roman numeral 19. WIII Channel 64 Cincinnati. "The Eyes of Cincinnati." (Eyes... I's... heh... someone had a rather cheesy sense of humor.) W-One and W-Two: WONE-AM 980 Dayton, Ohio and WONE-FM 97.5 Akron, Ohio, and WTUE-104.7 Dayton. All used to be owned by Summit Broadcasting. Clear Channel now owns the Dayton stations and a local broadcaster, Rubber City Radio, owns WONE-FM in Akron. WLQT 99.9 Dayton used to be WVUD, broadcasting from Kennedy Union at the University of Dayton. WVUD was the "Voice of UD" and was licensed to the university until 1993 when the station was sold to Clear Channel. Incidentally - I didn't realize this until doing a Google search, but the University of Dayton campus radio station (where I used to do an airshift that you could almost hear in the dorms if you were lucky) has hit the airwaves. WDCR used to be carrier-current only. Now they're WUDR-99.5/98.1... "The Udder". (no, I'm not kidding, see for yourself: http://flyer-radio.udayton.edu/) WEOL-AM 930, Lorain County, Ohio, serving Elyria, Oberlin and Lorain. WELW-AM 1330, Lake County, Ohio, serving Eastlake and Willoughby. There was a Christian radio station on 1260 for a while in Cleveland, with the calls WRDZ ("Words"). (It's now Radio Disney.) How about WZAK-93.1 Cleveland, currently owned by Radio One but previously the flagship station for Cleveland-owned Zapis Communications. And WJW-TV 8 Cleveland, which became WJKW for a number of years in the 80s after it was sold to a different company from the one that owned WJW-AM 850, and then became WJW again after WJW-AM was sold and changed calls. Not notable, except that they were allowed to go back to three-letter calls. I'm not sure how that happened, or if a lot of strings had to be pulled to make it happen. In the area where I now live, KHWY 98.9 Essex, CA. Part of the "Highway Radio" group of stations catering to people driving the highways between SoCal and Laughlin, NV, and SoCal and Las Vegas. (KHWY is on the way to Laughlin.) I'm sure I'll come up with some more later... -- JustThe.net - Apple Valley, CA - http://JustThe.net/ - 888.480.4NET (4638) Steven J. Sobol, Geek In Charge / / PGP: 0xE3AE35ED "In case anyone was wondering, that big glowing globe above the Victor Valley is the sun." -Victorville _Daily Press_ on the unusually large amount of rain the Southland has gotten this winter (January 12th, 2005) |
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Joel Rubin wrote:
On 23 Feb 2005 03:24:41 GMT, "Blue Cat" wrote: There are some that I came upon: WGY 810 kHz, Schenectady, NY "G" for General Electric, "Y" last letter in Schenectady. KGO 810 kHz, San Francisco, CA "G" for GE, "O" last letter in San Francisco. GE owned both stations many years ago. WROW 590 kHz, Albany, NY "Row!" (like a dog growling) "Watchdog of the Capital District". WPTR 1540 kHz, Albany, NY (back in the 1960s), Patroon Broadcasting Corp. WROV 1240 kHz, Roanoke, VA (back before 1990s) "RO" for Roanoke, "V" for Virginia. WSLS 610 kHz, Roanoke, VA (Before 1980), Shenandoah Life (insurance) Station WQBA 1140 kHz, Miami, FL (Spanish speaking) Q, pronounced "coo", BA as in "bah". Said together, it is "Cuba" as said in Spanish. WEAF (later WNBC, WRCA and WFAN) was next in sequence after the call letters that the FCC originally offered and the owners rejected - WDAM. WEVD (now WEPN) stood for Eugene V. Debs, the labor union leader who helped found the Socialist Party and was jailed for criticizing World War I. WCFL (I'm not sure what that is now) was Chicago Federation of Labor The WCFL refered to above is now WMVP and is owned by ABC and is ESPN Radio WLS (then owned by Sears) was the World's Largest Store Also in Chicago, there is WMBI, Moody Bible Institute WGN which stands for Worlds Greatest Newspaper (Chicago Tribune) WIND does not stand for Windy City, but stands for Indiana where it was first licensed. Downstate in Champaign-Urbana, IL there is WILL which is licensed to the University of Illinois and stands for Illinois. In South Bend Indiana WSBT stands for South Bend Tribune and WNDU (now only TV) stands for Notre Dame University who owns it through a commercial subsidiary. KYW doesn't stand for anything but it has an interesting migratory history, having originated in Chicago, then Philadelphia, Cleveland and back to Philadelphia. WJZ is another call associated with AT&T and Westinghouse which has done some migration. Originally the NBC Blue Network (later ABC) call in New York, it is now the call for the Westinghouse (later CBS) TV station in Baltimore. I don't think you can actually buy a call from one station to use on another station but Ted Turner bribed the MIT student radio station WTBS (Technology Broadcasting System) to change its call to WMBR so that the call WTBS would become available to his TV station. Also, are there any sets of calls in which the AM/FM and TV stations are hundreds of miles apart other than for KCBS? There is an AM & FM in Michigan that are about 175 miles apart. WKLZ-AM, Kalamazoo and WKLZ-FM, Petosky. They are not commonly owned. KCBS is in San Francisco. KCBS-TV (originally KNXT, from KNX for the Los Angeles Evening Express) and KCBS-TV are in Los Angeles. Early call letters and their meanings can be found at the top of the page at Jeff Miller's Broadcasting History site at http://members.aol.com/jeff560/jeff.html Charlie -- To respond by Email remove never- from address |
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Also, are there any sets of calls in which the AM/FM and TV stations are hundreds of miles apart other than for KCBS? KCBS is in San Francisco. KCBS-TV (originally KNXT, from KNX for the Los Angeles Evening Express) and KCBS-TV are in Los Angeles. First, an answer to that last question. I've got one here in Utah. KJZZ TV 14. Larry Miller, owner of the Utah Jazz, got permission from Rio Solado Community College to use KJZZ for the TV station. The calls were first seen in 1980 in Phoenix. KMCR 91.5 (Maricopa College Radio) first used them. And here's a stack more... KBAQ 89.5 (soon moving to 89.1 in frequency swap with EMF) Phoenix. K-Bach. Classical station. Oddly, they originally were assigned 'KBQA' when someone forgot to request calls within a certain amount of time back in 1992. EMF '*LV', 'LV*', and L*V' calls. Loads of these, all for 'Love' as in K-Love. See the whole list for yourself at klove.com. Their sister network, Air1, uses 'RI' for that name in some of their calls. But the most interesting of these is KAER 89.3 Saint George Utah. Yes, there is also a 'KLOV' in Winchester, OR, used to feed their translators. University calls. Plenty abound, loads of other examples, but here's one not obvious to some. KBYU Provo (kbyufm.org) is obvious, but did you know they were KBRG originally for 'Brigham' because KBYU was a ship call. KSL was once assigned KZN but that was because of the same reason. I was responsible for the KXCI calls in Tucson. XCI stands for 91 in roman numerals. Station is now on 91.3 but once was on 91.7. More info may still be on kxci.org Othere. KUUU 'U-92'. More for identity. KRAR 'Rock and roll', hard rock station in Utah in late 90s. Left the air as rock station in an expletive filled hour in late 90s, became 50s oldies until CC got it and ran KOSY 'Cozy' on it before selling it last year. KHTB 'Hot 94.9, the Blaze' 'Hot 94.9 was dropped two months later. KMDG 'Mad Dog' active rock station. KDUT 'La Gran D' (the Big D) Utah. KZZA. Opened last night with 'Hurban' format in Dallas. They got 'Casa' (Spanish for house) out of that one. Was KKDL up until last night. WEAK-LP. Obvious. LPFMs run with weak power, 100 watts at 100 feet HAAT. KRIM-LP 'Rim' as in Mogollon Rim in Arizona. Natural landmark related. KNRJ 'Energy' Dance format. energyarizonafm.com. Various 'Edge' nicknames. KEDG, KEDJ, etc. Common alternative format name and identity in calls. Salt Lake's 'zoo', all stations owned by Citadel. KUBL 93.3 K-Bull, country KBEE 98.7 'B98.7 or 'Bee 98.7'. Based on honeybee/beehive in state seal. KBER 101.1 Chris Devine of 3 Point Media came up with this in the 80s. Bear. KKAT 860 (earlier 101.9). Cat. 'Kat Country. and they have 'pop' now, KPQP, 'Pop-FM'. Two 'Oasis's. KOAI Dallas, KOAS Dolan Springs/Las Vegas. Both smooth jazz formats. 'Vegas'. KVGS, KVEG. Both rimshotters, neither is in Las Vegas itself. 'Luck' or other similar gambling-related stuff. KLUC, KLUK, KWNR. KSOS. 'Sounds of the Spirit' (old KILA) on 800 (defunct) in Brigham City. Might have stood for 'S*** on a shingle' but it's not known if the original owner that took the calls ever meant that anyway, although its signal reached a nearby military base. KMTI 'Manti, Utah'. The town name comes from a location mentioned in 'The Book of Mormon, Another Testament of Jesus Christ'. KVVA 'Viva' 107.1 Apache Junction/Phoenix. Spanish word. KUTR 'Utah'. Two stations had it in the late 80s, early 9os, will soon be heard again this spring when Bonneville puts 820 on the air in Salt Lake. KLGN 'Logan Utah'. KVNU 'Voice of Northern Utah', station in Logan, Utah. KEVA short for 'Evanston' Wyoming. KUDD I doubt had anything to do with the Simpsons episode that parodied KOME in the Bay Area. KOME had a liner that said 'Don't touch that dial, it's got KOME all over it'. The Simpsons episode had 'KUDD', may have been a reference to cow cuds. The KUDD calls are in Roy, Utah on 107.9 (docket 04-427 proposes move to Henefer Utah), and the D's stood originally for 'Dianna' and 'Power D'. Station still uses Power 107.9 but has segued from CHR/Pop to hot AC lately. KKFR 92.3 Glendale/Phoenix. K-Fire. Used for short time in mid-80s. Now another 'Power', as a rhythmic CHR. I'll post more later. Keep all the stories coming. |
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WTIC is Travelers Insurance Company, although back in the 70's I also heard it explained as "Watch Travelers Ignore Claims". |
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Joel Rubin wrote:
Also, are there any sets of calls in which the AM/FM and TV stations are hundreds of miles apart other than for KCBS? KCBS is in San Francisco. KCBS-TV (originally KNXT, from KNX for the Los Angeles Evening Express) and KCBS-TV are in Los Angeles. Yep: for one example, WWVA-AM in Wheeling, West Virginia: WWVA-FM in an Atlanta suburb. There are other examples. But to the best of my knowledge, KCBS was the *first* station to "split" their calls like that. -- Doug Smith W9WI Pleasant View (Nashville), TN EM66 http://www.w9wi.com |
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A few from my previous stomping grounds, Northeastern Oklahoma/Northwest
Arkansas. KRMG (AM 740) - Originally owned by Kerr McGee oil company KVOO (now KFAQ 1170AM) - stood for Voice Of Oklahoma - I believe these calls are now parked on the sister FM at 98.5. KMOD - acronym for Middle Of the Dial (97.5FM) KELI (used to be AM1430) - if memory serves, Kelly was the name of the original owners' daughter. KXOJ (100.9 FM) - Christian easy listening station - ironically, the calls stood for eXcited Over Jesus. KCFO (AM 970) - Christian talk station, the calls stand for Christ For Oklahoma - originally these calls were parked at 98.5FM as "Love 98". KXUA (88.3 FM) - University of Arkansas KUAF (91.3 FM) - University of Arkansas at Fayetteville KAMO (94.3 FM) - The story I was told was that when the station signed on in the late 60's, it was the only FM in the region that could be heard in all four of the following states - Kansas, Arkansas, Missouri and Oklahoma. KBVA (106.5 FM) - Licensed to Bella Vista, Arkansas. KURM (AM 790) - I've actually met the original owner, and his first name was/is Kermit. |
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WRVA 1140 in Richmond VA shares those calls with an FM in Raleigh NC on 100.7. I think they're both CC properties. WERO 93.3 in Washington NC had flipped to WBOB (they call themselves Bob933) but flipped back to the former when the FCC folks realized there was already a WBOB in Florence KY that had not been consulted about it. Also in NC, there is a WANG AM-FM in Havelock NC, and years ago the 1250 signal out of Farmville NC was assigned WFAG. GTTyson Doug Smith W9WI wrote: Joel Rubin wrote: Also, are there any sets of calls in which the AM/FM and TV stations are hundreds of miles apart other than for KCBS? KCBS is in San Francisco. KCBS-TV (originally KNXT, from KNX for the Los Angeles Evening Express) and KCBS-TV are in Los Angeles. Yep: for one example, WWVA-AM in Wheeling, West Virginia: WWVA-FM in an Atlanta suburb. There are other examples. But to the best of my knowledge, KCBS was the *first* station to "split" their calls like that. |
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