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Old February 24th 05, 04:45 AM
Joel Rubin
 
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On 23 Feb 2005 03:24:41 GMT, "Blue Cat" wrote:

There are some that I came upon:
WGY 810 kHz, Schenectady, NY "G" for General Electric, "Y" last letter in
Schenectady.
KGO 810 kHz, San Francisco, CA "G" for GE, "O" last letter in San
Francisco. GE owned both stations many years ago.
WROW 590 kHz, Albany, NY "Row!" (like a dog growling) "Watchdog of the
Capital District".
WPTR 1540 kHz, Albany, NY (back in the 1960s), Patroon Broadcasting Corp.
WROV 1240 kHz, Roanoke, VA (back before 1990s) "RO" for Roanoke, "V" for
Virginia.
WSLS 610 kHz, Roanoke, VA (Before 1980), Shenandoah Life (insurance) Station
WQBA 1140 kHz, Miami, FL (Spanish speaking) Q, pronounced "coo", BA as in
"bah". Said together, it is "Cuba" as said in Spanish.


WEAF (later WNBC, WRCA and WFAN) was next in sequence after the call
letters that the FCC originally offered and the owners rejected -
WDAM.

WEVD (now WEPN) stood for Eugene V. Debs, the labor union leader who
helped found the Socialist Party and was jailed for criticizing World
War I.

WCFL (I'm not sure what that is now) was Chicago Federation of Labor

WLS (then owned by Sears) was the World's Largest Store

KYW doesn't stand for anything but it has an interesting migratory
history, having originated in Chicago, then Philadelphia, Cleveland
and back to Philadelphia.

WJZ is another call associated with AT&T and Westinghouse which has
done some migration. Originally the NBC Blue Network (later ABC) call
in New York, it is now the call for the Westinghouse (later CBS) TV
station in Baltimore.

I don't think you can actually buy a call from one station to use on
another station but Ted Turner bribed the MIT student radio station
WTBS (Technology Broadcasting System) to change its call to WMBR so
that the call WTBS would become available to his TV station.

Also, are there any sets of calls in which the AM/FM and TV stations
are hundreds of miles apart other than for KCBS?

KCBS is in San Francisco. KCBS-TV (originally KNXT, from KNX for the
Los Angeles Evening Express) and KCBS-TV are in Los Angeles.


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On 23 Feb 2005 03:24:41 GMT, "Blue Cat" wrote:

WROV 1240 kHz, Roanoke, VA (back before 1990s) "RO" for Roanoke, "V" for
Virginia.
WSLS 610 kHz, Roanoke, VA (Before 1980), Shenandoah Life (insurance) Station


For future historical reference with these two:

The WROV calls landed on 96.3 Martinsville, VA, which inherited 1240's
history as "The Rock of Virginia" for the Roanoke/Lynchburg market.
1240 is now WGMN ("The Game", sports), simulcast with Lynchburg's
WVGM/1320.

The WSLS calls are still on TV channel 10, the R/L market's NBC
affiliate. 610 eventually became WSLC, for decades the area's
dominant country station. The format and WSLC calls migrated to FM
94.9, where it exists today as "Star Country". For a time, WSLC/610
simulcasted the new FM country signal, and is now WVBE(AM)... the AM
and Roanoke simulcast of Lynchburg-targetted urban FM station "Vibe
100" (WVBE[FM] 100.1).

That station was once WLYK ("Lynchburg's K", I presume), and IT used
to simulcast Roanoke top 40 WXLK/92.3 before breaking out on its own
with the new format in 2001.

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Old February 24th 05, 04:45 AM
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"Blue Cat" wrote in message
...
There are some that I came upon:


Interesting list... here's another:

WCCO, Minneapolis/St. Paul, MN (830 KHz). W-C-CO stands for Washburn Crosby
Co.,
a milling company that eventually became the food giant, General Mills.

Jackie



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Old February 25th 05, 06:31 AM
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Followups set to rrb only, because I don't know how applicable this is to
shortwave.

Michael A. Terrell wrote:
Steve Sobol wrote:


I could offer tons more, but isn't someone collecting these and putting them on
a website, or am I not recalling correctly?

Steven J. Sobol



Sorry


No, don't be! I was just curious, because we have this discussion once every
year or two. In fact, I'll add some...

A local Christian TV station bought an existing low power station in
Lake county Florida. The call letters were WIYE so they cam up with "We
Inspire You Everyday" Later, they went full power and changed their
call to WACX for "ACTS TV" because it was as close as they could get to
what they wanted.


WSVN Channel 7 Miami, Florida. WSYX Channel 6 Columbus, Ohio. WTHR Channel 13,
Indianapolis, Indiana. WFOR Channel 4 Miami. And WFOR used to be WCIX Channel 6...

WEWS-TV 5 Cleveland, Ohio, owned by Scripps-Howard and one of the first TV
stations in the country. Callsign stands for "Edward W. Scripps."

WOIO Channel 19 Cleveland. I've never asked but I always assume the calls stand
for "Ohio."

WXIX Channel 19 Cincinnati, Ohio. XIX is the Roman numeral 19.

WIII Channel 64 Cincinnati. "The Eyes of Cincinnati." (Eyes... I's... heh...
someone had a rather cheesy sense of humor.)

W-One and W-Two: WONE-AM 980 Dayton, Ohio and WONE-FM 97.5 Akron, Ohio, and
WTUE-104.7 Dayton. All used to be owned by Summit Broadcasting. Clear Channel
now owns the Dayton stations and a local broadcaster, Rubber City Radio, owns
WONE-FM in Akron.

WLQT 99.9 Dayton used to be WVUD, broadcasting from Kennedy Union at the
University of Dayton. WVUD was the "Voice of UD" and was licensed to the
university until 1993 when the station was sold to Clear Channel.

Incidentally - I didn't realize this until doing a Google search, but the
University of Dayton campus radio station (where I used to do an airshift that
you could almost hear in the dorms if you were lucky) has hit the airwaves.
WDCR used to be carrier-current only. Now they're WUDR-99.5/98.1... "The
Udder". (no, I'm not kidding, see for yourself: http://flyer-radio.udayton.edu/)

WEOL-AM 930, Lorain County, Ohio, serving Elyria, Oberlin and Lorain.
WELW-AM 1330, Lake County, Ohio, serving Eastlake and Willoughby.

There was a Christian radio station on 1260 for a while in Cleveland, with the
calls WRDZ ("Words"). (It's now Radio Disney.)

How about WZAK-93.1 Cleveland, currently owned by Radio One but previously the
flagship station for Cleveland-owned Zapis Communications.

And WJW-TV 8 Cleveland, which became WJKW for a number of years in the 80s
after it was sold to a different company from the one that owned WJW-AM 850,
and then became WJW again after WJW-AM was sold and changed calls. Not notable,
except that they were allowed to go back to three-letter calls. I'm not sure
how that happened, or if a lot of strings had to be pulled to make it happen.

In the area where I now live, KHWY 98.9 Essex, CA. Part of the "Highway Radio"
group of stations catering to people driving the highways between SoCal and
Laughlin, NV, and SoCal and Las Vegas. (KHWY is on the way to Laughlin.)

I'm sure I'll come up with some more later...

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Valley is the sun." -Victorville _Daily Press_ on the unusually large
amount of rain the Southland has gotten this winter (January 12th, 2005)

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Old February 25th 05, 06:31 AM
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Joel Rubin wrote:
On 23 Feb 2005 03:24:41 GMT, "Blue Cat" wrote:


There are some that I came upon:
WGY 810 kHz, Schenectady, NY "G" for General Electric, "Y" last letter in
Schenectady.
KGO 810 kHz, San Francisco, CA "G" for GE, "O" last letter in San
Francisco. GE owned both stations many years ago.
WROW 590 kHz, Albany, NY "Row!" (like a dog growling) "Watchdog of the
Capital District".
WPTR 1540 kHz, Albany, NY (back in the 1960s), Patroon Broadcasting Corp.
WROV 1240 kHz, Roanoke, VA (back before 1990s) "RO" for Roanoke, "V" for
Virginia.
WSLS 610 kHz, Roanoke, VA (Before 1980), Shenandoah Life (insurance) Station
WQBA 1140 kHz, Miami, FL (Spanish speaking) Q, pronounced "coo", BA as in
"bah". Said together, it is "Cuba" as said in Spanish.



WEAF (later WNBC, WRCA and WFAN) was next in sequence after the call
letters that the FCC originally offered and the owners rejected -
WDAM.

WEVD (now WEPN) stood for Eugene V. Debs, the labor union leader who
helped found the Socialist Party and was jailed for criticizing World
War I.

WCFL (I'm not sure what that is now) was Chicago Federation of Labor

The WCFL refered to above is now WMVP and is owned by ABC and is
ESPN Radio
WLS (then owned by Sears) was the World's Largest Store

Also in Chicago, there is WMBI, Moody Bible Institute
WGN which stands for Worlds Greatest Newspaper (Chicago Tribune)
WIND does not stand for Windy City, but stands for Indiana where it was
first licensed.
Downstate in Champaign-Urbana, IL there is WILL which is licensed to the
University of Illinois and stands for Illinois.

In South Bend Indiana WSBT stands for South Bend Tribune and
WNDU (now only TV) stands for Notre Dame University who owns it
through a commercial subsidiary.

KYW doesn't stand for anything but it has an interesting migratory
history, having originated in Chicago, then Philadelphia, Cleveland
and back to Philadelphia.

WJZ is another call associated with AT&T and Westinghouse which has
done some migration. Originally the NBC Blue Network (later ABC) call
in New York, it is now the call for the Westinghouse (later CBS) TV
station in Baltimore.

I don't think you can actually buy a call from one station to use on
another station but Ted Turner bribed the MIT student radio station
WTBS (Technology Broadcasting System) to change its call to WMBR so
that the call WTBS would become available to his TV station.

Also, are there any sets of calls in which the AM/FM and TV stations
are hundreds of miles apart other than for KCBS?


There is an AM & FM in Michigan that are about 175 miles apart.
WKLZ-AM, Kalamazoo and WKLZ-FM, Petosky. They are not commonly owned.

KCBS is in San Francisco. KCBS-TV (originally KNXT, from KNX for the
Los Angeles Evening Express) and KCBS-TV are in Los Angeles.


Early call letters and their meanings can be found at the top of the
page at Jeff Miller's Broadcasting History site at
http://members.aol.com/jeff560/jeff.html

Charlie

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Also, are there any sets of calls in which the AM/FM and TV stations
are hundreds of miles apart other than for KCBS?

KCBS is in San Francisco. KCBS-TV (originally KNXT, from KNX for the
Los Angeles Evening Express) and KCBS-TV are in Los Angeles.



First, an answer to that last question. I've got one here in Utah.

KJZZ TV 14. Larry Miller, owner of the Utah Jazz, got permission from
Rio Solado Community College to use KJZZ for the TV station. The calls
were first seen in 1980 in Phoenix. KMCR 91.5 (Maricopa College Radio)
first used them.

And here's a stack more...

KBAQ 89.5 (soon moving to 89.1 in frequency swap with EMF) Phoenix.
K-Bach. Classical station. Oddly, they originally were assigned
'KBQA' when someone forgot to request calls within a certain amount of
time back in 1992.

EMF '*LV', 'LV*', and L*V' calls. Loads of these, all for 'Love' as in
K-Love. See the whole list for yourself at klove.com. Their sister
network, Air1, uses 'RI' for that name in some of their calls. But the
most interesting of these is KAER 89.3 Saint George Utah. Yes, there
is also a 'KLOV' in Winchester, OR, used to feed their translators.

University calls. Plenty abound, loads of other examples, but here's
one not obvious to some. KBYU Provo (kbyufm.org) is obvious, but did
you know they were KBRG originally for 'Brigham' because KBYU was a
ship call. KSL was once assigned KZN but that was because of the same
reason.

I was responsible for the KXCI calls in Tucson. XCI stands for 91 in
roman numerals. Station is now on 91.3 but once was on 91.7. More
info may still be on kxci.org

Othere.

KUUU 'U-92'. More for identity.
KRAR 'Rock and roll', hard rock station in Utah in late 90s. Left the
air as rock station in an expletive filled hour in late 90s, became 50s
oldies until CC got it and ran KOSY 'Cozy' on it before selling it last
year.
KHTB 'Hot 94.9, the Blaze' 'Hot 94.9 was dropped two months later.
KMDG 'Mad Dog' active rock station.
KDUT 'La Gran D' (the Big D) Utah.
KZZA. Opened last night with 'Hurban' format in Dallas. They got
'Casa' (Spanish for house) out of that one. Was KKDL up until last
night.
WEAK-LP. Obvious. LPFMs run with weak power, 100 watts at 100 feet
HAAT.
KRIM-LP 'Rim' as in Mogollon Rim in Arizona. Natural landmark
related.
KNRJ 'Energy' Dance format. energyarizonafm.com.
Various 'Edge' nicknames. KEDG, KEDJ, etc. Common alternative format
name and identity in calls.
Salt Lake's 'zoo', all stations owned by Citadel.
KUBL 93.3 K-Bull, country
KBEE 98.7 'B98.7 or 'Bee 98.7'. Based on honeybee/beehive in state
seal.
KBER 101.1 Chris Devine of 3 Point Media came up with this in the 80s.
Bear.
KKAT 860 (earlier 101.9). Cat. 'Kat Country.
and they have 'pop' now, KPQP, 'Pop-FM'.
Two 'Oasis's. KOAI Dallas, KOAS Dolan Springs/Las Vegas. Both smooth
jazz formats.
'Vegas'. KVGS, KVEG. Both rimshotters, neither is in Las Vegas
itself.
'Luck' or other similar gambling-related stuff. KLUC, KLUK, KWNR.
KSOS. 'Sounds of the Spirit' (old KILA) on 800 (defunct) in Brigham
City. Might have stood for 'S*** on a shingle' but it's not known if
the original owner that took the calls ever meant that anyway, although
its signal reached a nearby military base.
KMTI 'Manti, Utah'. The town name comes from a location mentioned in
'The Book of Mormon, Another Testament of Jesus Christ'.
KVVA 'Viva' 107.1 Apache Junction/Phoenix. Spanish word.
KUTR 'Utah'. Two stations had it in the late 80s, early 9os, will
soon be heard again this spring when Bonneville puts 820 on the air in
Salt Lake.
KLGN 'Logan Utah'.
KVNU 'Voice of Northern Utah', station in Logan, Utah.
KEVA short for 'Evanston' Wyoming.
KUDD I doubt had anything to do with the Simpsons episode that parodied
KOME in the Bay Area. KOME had a liner that said 'Don't touch that
dial, it's got KOME all over it'. The Simpsons episode had 'KUDD', may
have been a reference to cow cuds. The KUDD calls are in Roy, Utah on
107.9 (docket 04-427 proposes move to Henefer Utah), and the D's stood
originally for 'Dianna' and 'Power D'. Station still uses Power 107.9
but has segued from CHR/Pop to hot AC lately.
KKFR 92.3 Glendale/Phoenix. K-Fire. Used for short time in mid-80s.
Now another 'Power', as a rhythmic CHR.

I'll post more later. Keep all the stories coming.


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snip

WTIC is Travelers Insurance Company, although back in the 70's I also heard it
explained as "Watch Travelers Ignore Claims".

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Joel Rubin wrote:
Also, are there any sets of calls in which the AM/FM and TV stations
are hundreds of miles apart other than for KCBS?

KCBS is in San Francisco. KCBS-TV (originally KNXT, from KNX for the
Los Angeles Evening Express) and KCBS-TV are in Los Angeles.


Yep: for one example, WWVA-AM in Wheeling, West Virginia: WWVA-FM in an
Atlanta suburb. There are other examples.

But to the best of my knowledge, KCBS was the *first* station to "split"
their calls like that.

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A few from my previous stomping grounds, Northeastern Oklahoma/Northwest
Arkansas.

KRMG (AM 740) - Originally owned by Kerr McGee oil company
KVOO (now KFAQ 1170AM) - stood for Voice Of Oklahoma - I believe these
calls are now parked on the sister FM at 98.5.
KMOD - acronym for Middle Of the Dial (97.5FM)
KELI (used to be AM1430) - if memory serves, Kelly was the name of the
original owners' daughter.
KXOJ (100.9 FM) - Christian easy listening station - ironically, the calls
stood for eXcited Over Jesus.
KCFO (AM 970) - Christian talk station, the calls stand for Christ For
Oklahoma - originally these calls were parked at 98.5FM as "Love 98".

KXUA (88.3 FM) - University of Arkansas
KUAF (91.3 FM) - University of Arkansas at Fayetteville

KAMO (94.3 FM) - The story I was told was that when the station signed on in
the late 60's, it was the only FM in the region that could be heard in all
four of the following states - Kansas, Arkansas, Missouri and Oklahoma.

KBVA (106.5 FM) - Licensed to Bella Vista, Arkansas.

KURM (AM 790) - I've actually met the original owner, and his first name
was/is Kermit.


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WRVA 1140 in Richmond VA shares those calls with an FM in Raleigh NC on
100.7. I think they're both CC properties.

WERO 93.3 in Washington NC had flipped to WBOB (they call themselves
Bob933) but flipped back to the former when the FCC folks realized there
was already a WBOB in Florence KY that had not been consulted about it.

Also in NC, there is a WANG AM-FM in Havelock NC, and years ago the
1250 signal out of Farmville NC was assigned WFAG.


GTTyson




Doug Smith W9WI wrote:
Joel Rubin wrote:

Also, are there any sets of calls in which the AM/FM and TV stations
are hundreds of miles apart other than for KCBS?

KCBS is in San Francisco. KCBS-TV (originally KNXT, from KNX for the
Los Angeles Evening Express) and KCBS-TV are in Los Angeles.



Yep: for one example, WWVA-AM in Wheeling, West Virginia: WWVA-FM in an
Atlanta suburb. There are other examples.

But to the best of my knowledge, KCBS was the *first* station to "split"
their calls like that.


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