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FCC BUST IN TEXAS
Hey Folks,
Kinda down at the moment, our college radio station got busted by the FCC. Here a list of the stuff that was hauled off: NRG PLL-PRO 3 20W TRANSMITTER NRG 220 WATT RF LINEAR AMPLIFIER NRG PRO III STEREO CODER NRG PRO III STEREO LIMITER COMPRESSOR DAIWA CN-101L SWR+POWER METER COMET CFM-95SL 5/8 WAVE ANTENNA 50 FEET OF LMR 400 COAX KENWOOD R-1000 SW RECEIVER (my fathers old short-wave radio?) The really weird part is that we WERE NOT transmitting at the time of the raid. One of the agents tolds us that they traced us through a purchase order from Broadcast-Warehouse! It's true that we bought a 150w amp from broadcastwarehouse.com a few weeks ago. How did the FCC know about that? Anyways, we will rebuild the station and continue to fight the globle interests of the MEGA-MACHINE. DEATH TO THE MEGA-MACHINE! |
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Kinda down at the moment, our college radio station got busted by the FCC. Here a list of the stuff that was hauled off: NRG PLL-PRO 3 20W TRANSMITTER NRG 220 WATT RF LINEAR AMPLIFIER NRG PRO III STEREO CODER NRG PRO III STEREO LIMITER COMPRESSOR DAIWA CN-101L SWR+POWER METER COMET CFM-95SL 5/8 WAVE ANTENNA 50 FEET OF LMR 400 COAX KENWOOD R-1000 SW RECEIVER (my fathers old short-wave radio?) That stuff isn't type-accepted. You should not be using it on the air. The really weird part is that we WERE NOT transmitting at the time of the raid. One of the agents tolds us that they traced us through a purchase order from Broadcast-Warehouse! It's true that we bought a 150w amp from broadcastwarehouse.com a few weeks ago. How did the FCC know about that? The same way that if you bought an amp from HRO and didn't submit the license along with it. Anyways, we will rebuild the station and continue to fight the globle interests of the MEGA-MACHINE. DEATH TO THE MEGA-MACHINE! I'm not sure what the MEGA-MACHINE is, but if you're running non-type-accepted gear that isn't custom-made, you're going to get a citation. It's good to see that FCC at least enforcing _some_ technical standards these days, since it's been a long time since they've paid much attention. Bring back annual proof of performance measurements and hourly logs, that's what I'd suggest... --scott -- "C'est un Nagra. C'est suisse, et tres, tres precis." |
we will rebuild the station and continue to fight the globle interests of
the MEGA-MACHINE. DEATH TO THE MEGA-MACHINE! Brilliant, just brilliant. Advertise to the world that you intend to break the law yet again. Why don't you just call the FCC and tell them? Oh, sorry...YOU ALREADY DID! |
Right or wrong, the broadcast regulations *are* the official rules
These rules were thought up before PLL transmitters. Analog mini transmitters can be all over the dial. The new digital ones can lock dead on. I think the FCC should change the rules to allow higher power levels depending on the type of equipment you're using. Low power stations can provide a valuable service and should be allowed to be part of the media mix. |
In article , fredtv wrote:
Right or wrong, the broadcast regulations *are* the official rules These rules were thought up before PLL transmitters. Analog mini transmitters can be all over the dial. The new digital ones can lock dead on. No. Crystal control is just as accurate as PLL control. And the FCC frankly doesn't care _how_ you control frequency, just as long as it stays within the specified limits. I think the FCC should change the rules to allow higher power levels depending on the type of equipment you're using. Low power stations can provide a valuable service and should be allowed to be part of the media mix. That's what the whole LPFM licensing is about, and it's what the old Class D allocation used to be about. The problem is that the bands are too crowded for many of the things to be given out. There just aren't a lot of places to shoehorn low power stations today because there are already too many stations on the bands. Now, if I ran the FCC, I'd be revoking licenses right and left for "failure to provide a public service and contribute to the public good," but I do not. --scott -- "C'est un Nagra. C'est suisse, et tres, tres precis." |
Scott Dorsey wrote:
In article , fredtv wrote: Right or wrong, the broadcast regulations *are* the official rules These rules were thought up before PLL transmitters. Analog mini transmitters can be all over the dial. The new digital ones can lock dead on. No. Crystal control is just as accurate as PLL control. And the FCC frankly doesn't care _how_ you control frequency, just as long as it stays within the specified limits. Scott, the other item that's being missed by these people who believe that they can use non type accepted equipment is the strenuous off frequency emissions standards. I think the FCC should change the rules to allow higher power levels depending on the type of equipment you're using. Low power stations can provide a valuable service and should be allowed to be part of the media mix. That's what the whole LPFM licensing is about, and it's what the old Class D allocation used to be about. The problem is that the bands are too crowded for many of the things to be given out. There just aren't a lot of places to shoehorn low power stations today because there are already too many stations on the bands. Now, if I ran the FCC, I'd be revoking licenses right and left for "failure to provide a public service and contribute to the public good," but I do not. --scott Charlie -- To respond by Email remove never- from address |
On Wed, 18 May 2005 18:01:23 +0000, Scott Dorsey wrote:
Now, if I ran the FCC, I'd be revoking licenses right and left for "failure to provide a public service and contribute to the public good," but I do not. --scott I wish you were running the FCC, stations these days simply don't do any public service. Running recorded Public service programs at 4 am on a Sunday morning won't cut it in my book. -- Korbin Dallas The name was changed to protect the guilty. |
Korbin Dallas wrote:
On Wed, 18 May 2005 18:01:23 +0000, Scott Dorsey wrote: Now, if I ran the FCC, I'd be revoking licenses right and left for "failure to provide a public service and contribute to the public good," but I do not. I wish you were running the FCC, stations these days simply don't do any public service. Running recorded Public service programs at 4 am on a Sunday morning won't cut it in my book. I agree, but the chances of my ever running the FCC are about as good as Clear Channel putting a classical station on the air. Oh yes, and annual proof of performance measurements. I'd bring them back. --scott -- "C'est un Nagra. C'est suisse, et tres, tres precis." |
On 19 May 2005 03:13:03 GMT, Korbin Dallas
wrote: I wish you were running the FCC, stations these days simply don't do any public service. Running recorded Public service programs at 4 am on a Sunday morning won't cut it in my book. If they ran them at 6pm would you listen to them? Rich |
These rules were thought up before PLL transmitters.
Analog mini transmitters can be all over the dial. The new digital ones can lock dead on. Wrong. Mistuned, overdriven or modified PLL transmitters can be all over the dial too. "Digital" does NOT automatically mean "better." |
"Rich Wood" wrote in message ... | On 19 May 2005 03:13:03 GMT, Korbin Dallas | wrote: | I wish you were running the FCC, stations these days simply don't do | any public service. Running recorded Public service programs at 4 am on a | Sunday morning won't cut it in my book. | If they ran them at 6pm would you listen to them? If they actually had some meaning to my life, yes. But you and I both know that, as these programs aren't exactly profit-centers, they get some pretty scant funding which limits the ability for them to actually attain relevancy. Good to hear from you, Rich! -- ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- Men born to freedom are naturally alert to repel invasion of their liberty by evil-minded rulers. The greatest dangers to liberty lurk in insidious encroachment by men of zeal, well-meaning but without understanding." -- Justice Brandeis ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- For direct replies, take out the contents between the hyphens. -Really!- |
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On Thu, 19 May 2005 16:25:47 +0000, Rich Wood wrote:
On 19 May 2005 03:13:03 GMT, Korbin Dallas wrote: I wish you were running the FCC, stations these days simply don't do any public service. Running recorded Public service programs at 4 am on a Sunday morning won't cut it in my book. If they ran them at 6pm would you listen to them? Rich No, I did not run those lousy programs. Public service should be part of what the station does every day. The typical Public service programs hidden away on Sunday morning do the public no good. The station might was well be playing music. -- Korbin Dallas The name was changed to protect the guilty. |
Public service should be part of
what the station does every day. The typical Public service programs hidden away on Sunday morning do the public no good. Remember when top 40 stations had talented and clever news people who actually crafted listenable newscasts? They were fun on slow news days and credible when the public need arose. Public service was also part of the format-- not a block of shows hidden on the schedule. Fred Cantu Austin, TX |
On 24 May 2005 07:20:50 GMT, "fredtv" wrote:
Remember when top 40 stations had talented and clever news people who actually crafted listenable newscasts? They were fun on slow news days and credible when the public need arose. Public service was also part of the format-- not a block of shows hidden on the schedule. Fred Cantu Austin, TX In the Tampa area, during the 50's, 60's and70's.. News was frequently an afterthought. Rip and Read was the norm. (And most of the news budget went for the TTY, telco, and service, rather than the humans doing the actual reading. A -few- stations had a real news team, but it -all- depended on how profitable they were. As profitability suffered, news was the first to go. Public Service? The stations that were on 24x7 simply put their "What's happening in the schools" programs on at 3 am. They put on transcriptions supplied by the government ("Forests today!", "Army Recruiting" and so on) and occasionally programs provided by the teacher's unions. Did they ever identify the propaganda pieces as such, or the suppliers of them? No.. They were -boring- and total wastes of time. How much did they put into those shows? Nothing. No budget.. Just get a talking head to come into the station one afternoon and have them talk about how great things were. Get the Sheriff's spokesman? Good. Get the head of the school board. More boredom. At the TV stations, the "public service" was aired either late at night, or early on Sunday mornings. Again, the budget for those shows was very limited... Get a news guy to sit in one chair on a empty set in the studio, and some local politician to sit in the other set... Have 2 cameras with static shots of the two folk, and let the tape spool. No one listened to them at 5 am on Sundays. The only exception to that was when the news director did a "Sky is falling" show about energy that aired in prime time. "We will be totally out of oil by 1995!" (this was in 82 or there abouts.. ) - At the rate we are going, by 1995, there won't be any cars moving. We have to buy econoboxes that get 50 mpg if we want anything available to make plastic with." "We have to have mass transit that runs on something other than oil so that our economy can survive." .... Like the Tampa Bay tourist economy would survive on coal burning airplanes carrying tourists into town? Well, Joe is long dead.. The folk he interviewed from the Sierra Club are long dead. (They were in their 70's then).. and the show got NO ratings at all. But -THAT- was the limit of "public service" on the air in the 70's and 80's.. |
"fredtv" wrote in message ... Public service should be part of what the station does every day. The typical Public service programs hidden away on Sunday morning do the public no good. Remember when top 40 stations had talented and clever news people who actually crafted listenable newscasts? They were fun on slow news days and credible when the public need arose. Public service was also part of the format-- not a block of shows hidden on the schedule. Yes, I remember that from the 50's and 60's. Every time one of the newscasts came on, I would go to the other local Top 40 station until the news came on on that station, when I would go back. All my friends did the same thing. Fortunately, the US realized what places like Mexico had known all along: the market will provide amply for news needs and specialized news and information stations will be created naturally. Mexico has, in general, more and better news and information stations than the US does, and none was ever forced to do news and information programming. |
David Eduardo wrote: Fortunately, the US realized what places like Mexico had known all along: the market will provide amply for news needs and specialized news and information stations will be created naturally. Mexico has, in general, more and better news and information stations than the US does, and none was ever forced to do news and information programming. Mexican stations were (are?) still forced to run that dreadful Sunday night program, though (didn't it sound like someone was talking over a barrel?) |
wrote in message ... David Eduardo wrote: Fortunately, the US realized what places like Mexico had known all along: the market will provide amply for news needs and specialized news and information stations will be created naturally. Mexico has, in general, more and better news and information stations than the US does, and none was ever forced to do news and information programming. Mexican stations were (are?) still forced to run that dreadful Sunday night program, though (didn't it sound like someone was talking over a barrel?) La Hora Nacional still is a must carry. However, we are talking about an hour that typically has a 3.0 rating for persons using radio, so it is not important. Mexico City has more news and talk stations than NY, LA and Chicago combined. |
wrote in message ... David Eduardo wrote: Fortunately, the US realized what places like Mexico had known all along: the market will provide amply for news needs and specialized news and information stations will be created naturally. Mexico has, in general, more and better news and information stations than the US does, and none was ever forced to do news and information programming. Mexican stations were (are?) still forced to run that dreadful Sunday night program, though (didn't it sound like someone was talking over a barrel?) La Hora Nacional still is a must carry. However, we are talking about an hour that typically has a 3.0 rating for persons using radio, so it is not important. Mexico City has more news and talk stations than NY, LA and Chicago combined. |
I don't see why people go to so much trouble to broadcast illegally
when it is possible to broadcast legally & cover large areas, of course it is only with the AM band this is possible but you can get near FM sound quality with the right audio equipment. We have customers that cover small cities legally with multiple transmitters. |
Fred-
Doesn't sound like you're speaking of Awstin stations. Having lived here off and on for 19 years, I can't picture any one here crafting a listenable newscast. I listen to the 5,000 ounce chimpanzee every morning, and the newscasts are about on par with a college radio station. Growing up in the NY market the newscasts on WABC were good and paced well. But that was a long time ago. When the music died in the early 80's I stopped listening. When I played radio in the early 70's the news was a joke. They tried to be serious, but the main goal in the control room was still to crack the newsguy. George Csahanin Awstin, TX "fredtv" wrote in message ... Public service should be part of what the station does every day. The typical Public service programs hidden away on Sunday morning do the public no good. Remember when top 40 stations had talented and clever news people who actually crafted listenable newscasts? They were fun on slow news days and credible when the public need arose. Public service was also part of the format-- not a block of shows hidden on the schedule. Fred Cantu Austin, TX |
I used to travel a lot - fortunately no longer do so - but would listen to a
news report of a current event on a given subject in Japan - then next day hear the US version on that same subject - then next day hear the BBC or European view - was very hard to tell we were talking about the same event - the skew was extreme from each source concerning that same event - what was true? well - not sure - and current extrapolation to today approach concerning US HomeLand Security news etc etc etc in US news compared to the rest of the world view of news - well - guess I will be investigated as a non US patriot for this post - whatever likable PC correct news is one thing - reality (whatever that is) is another - I would prefer reality or at least objective facts minus the politics and skew of political agendas Do you have a windmill I can tilt at????? Low rates - guaranteed success - dragons extra! David Eduardo wrote: "fredtv" wrote in message ... Public service should be part of what the station does every day. The typical Public service programs hidden away on Sunday morning do the public no good. Remember when top 40 stations had talented and clever news people who actually crafted listenable newscasts? They were fun on slow news days and credible when the public need arose. Public service was also part of the format-- not a block of shows hidden on the schedule. Yes, I remember that from the 50's and 60's. Every time one of the newscasts came on, I would go to the other local Top 40 station until the news came on on that station, when I would go back. All my friends did the same thing. Fortunately, the US realized what places like Mexico had known all along: the market will provide amply for news needs and specialized news and information stations will be created naturally. Mexico has, in general, more and better news and information stations than the US does, and none was ever forced to do news and information programming. |
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