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Steveo October 25th 06 05:50 AM

11 meter quad beam
 
Which is the best light wind load horizontal/vertical on the market today?

pete October 25th 06 08:48 AM

11 meter quad beam
 

"Steveo" wrote in message
...
Which is the best light wind load horizontal/vertical on the market today?


Hardly anyone uses them, try google for reviews.



Steveo October 25th 06 11:47 AM

11 meter quad beam
 
"pete" wrote:
"Steveo" wrote in message
...
Which is the best light wind load horizontal/vertical on the market
today?


Hardly anyone uses them, try google for reviews.

Yeah I tried that first and it seems you're right, Pete. My Y-quad is wore
out after many years of good service and I was wondering if the Maco comet
would be much of an upgrade:

http://www.bellscb.com/products/ante...maco_comet.htm

Or just buy another Y-quad.

http://www.bellscb.com/products/antennas/Maco/yquad.htm

I wish the PDL II was still being made.

I PUNCE October 25th 06 05:59 PM

11 meter quad beam
 

Steveo wrote:
"pete" wrote:
"Steveo" wrote in message
...
Which is the best light wind load horizontal/vertical on the market
today?


Hardly anyone uses them, try google for reviews.

Yeah I tried that first and it seems you're right, Pete. My Y-quad is wore
out after many years of good service and I was wondering if the Maco comet
would be much of an upgrade:

http://www.bellscb.com/products/ante...maco_comet.htm

Or just buy another Y-quad.

http://www.bellscb.com/products/antennas/Maco/yquad.htm

I wish the PDL II was still being made.


I PUNCE


Vinnie S. October 25th 06 06:08 PM

11 meter quad beam
 
On 25 Oct 2006 04:50:05 GMT, Steveo wrote:

Which is the best light wind load horizontal/vertical on the market today?



I drive around alot, and find myself looking at antenna often. I almost never
see quads. I always see 3 element beams, and usualy with a combo of other ham
antennas (2M and such).

Vinnie S.

Lloyd Davies Slappa October 25th 06 07:24 PM

11 meter quad beam
 

"I PUNCE" wrote in message
oups.com...

Steveo wrote:
"pete" wrote:
"Steveo" wrote in message
...
Which is the best light wind load horizontal/vertical on the market
today?

Hardly anyone uses them, try google for reviews.

Yeah I tried that first and it seems you're right, Pete. My Y-quad is
wore
out after many years of good service and I was wondering if the Maco
comet
would be much of an upgrade:

http://www.bellscb.com/products/ante...maco_comet.htm

Or just buy another Y-quad.

http://www.bellscb.com/products/antennas/Maco/yquad.htm

I wish the PDL II was still being made.


I PUNCE

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an_old_friend October 25th 06 09:54 PM

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Vinnie S. wrote:
On 25 Oct 2006 04:50:05 GMT, Steveo wrote:

Which is the best light wind load horizontal/vertical on the market today?



I drive around alot, and find myself looking at antenna often. I almost never
see quads. I always see 3 element beams, and usualy with a combo of other ham
antennas (2M and such).

Vinnie S.


vinnie i droive arund to sumtimes wehn i punce but the maco quard is
whet i maed moss of my eme qso whit but the jammeres haev a bot so
indeed my contents were infractured by a few hat hams who want to gte
rid of the ars.


jim October 25th 06 11:59 PM

11 meter quad beam
 
Steveo wrote:

"pete" wrote:

"Steveo" wrote in message
...

Which is the best light wind load horizontal/vertical on the market
today?


Hardly anyone uses them, try google for reviews.


Yeah I tried that first and it seems you're right, Pete. My Y-quad is wore
out after many years of good service and I was wondering if the Maco comet
would be much of an upgrade:

http://www.bellscb.com/products/ante...maco_comet.htm

Or just buy another Y-quad.

http://www.bellscb.com/products/antennas/Maco/yquad.htm

I wish the PDL II was still being made.


Ever think of a JoGunn? Maybe Jay in the Mojave can come up with something.

Slow Code October 26th 06 12:50 AM

11 meter quad beam
 
Steveo wrote in
:

"pete" wrote:
"Steveo" wrote in message
...
Which is the best light wind load horizontal/vertical on the market
today?


Hardly anyone uses them, try google for reviews.

Yeah I tried that first and it seems you're right, Pete. My Y-quad is
wore out after many years of good service and I was wondering if the
Maco comet would be much of an upgrade:

http://www.bellscb.com/products/ante...maco_comet.htm

Or just buy another Y-quad.

http://www.bellscb.com/products/antennas/Maco/yquad.htm

I wish the PDL II was still being made.



I'm glad they quit making it. CB'ers should be seen, not heard.

SC

Jay in the Mojave October 26th 06 03:04 AM

11 meter quad beam
 
Hello Stevo and jim:

Look at the Qubex Magum CB Series Quad antennas.

http://www.cubex.com/index.htm

Jay in the Mojave

jim wrote:

Ever think of a JoGunn? Maybe Jay in the Mojave can come up with something.


ScanDaBands October 26th 06 04:46 AM

11 meter quad beam
 
Hey look an actual question that makes sense............ :O)

On 25 Oct 2006 04:50:05 GMT, Steveo wrote:

Which is the best light wind load horizontal/vertical on the market today?


Steveo October 26th 06 11:58 AM

11 meter quad beam
 
Vinnie S. wrote:
On 25 Oct 2006 04:50:05 GMT, Steveo wrote:

Which is the best light wind load horizontal/vertical on the market
today?


I drive around alot, and find myself looking at antenna often. I almost
never see quads. I always see 3 element beams, and usualy with a combo of
other ham antennas (2M and such).

Vinnie S.

I'm the same way, always looking for antennas when I'm traveling about. I
like to use the flat side every now and then when the band opens up so I'm
going to put up another quad of some sort.

Steveo October 26th 06 12:04 PM

11 meter quad beam
 
jim wrote:
Steveo wrote:

"pete" wrote:

"Steveo" wrote in message
...

Which is the best light wind load horizontal/vertical on the market
today?

Hardly anyone uses them, try google for reviews.


Yeah I tried that first and it seems you're right, Pete. My Y-quad is
wore out after many years of good service and I was wondering if the
Maco comet would be much of an upgrade:

http://www.bellscb.com/products/ante...maco_comet.htm

Or just buy another Y-quad.

http://www.bellscb.com/products/antennas/Maco/yquad.htm

I wish the PDL II was still being made.


Ever think of a JoGunn? Maybe Jay in the Mojave can come up with
something.

Yeah I was looking at the JO GUNN STAR and comparing it to the Maco Comet.
The comet is lighter and less expensive but I don't know about durability.
The 3 + 3 has a bit better rejection and gain numbers, if they're to be
believed.

http://www.bellscb.com/products/ante...maco_comet.htm

http://www.jogunn.com/jgstar.htm

Steveo October 26th 06 12:11 PM

11 meter quad beam
 
Hi Jay.

Yeah someone emailed me about those and said they were happy with it. I
can't say I've ever heard of them before. Do you have any hands on
experience with them?

Jay in the Mojave wrote:
Hello Stevo and jim:

Look at the Qubex Magum CB Series Quad antennas.

http://www.cubex.com/index.htm

Jay in the Mojave

jim wrote:

Ever think of a JoGunn? Maybe Jay in the Mojave can come up with
something.


I PUNCE October 26th 06 05:27 PM

11 meter quad beam
 

Steveo wrote:
Hi Jay.

Yeah someone emailed me about those and said they were happy with it. I
can't say I've ever heard of them before. Do you have any hands on
experience with them?

Jay in the Mojave wrote:
Hello Stevo and jim:

Look at the Qubex Magum CB Series Quad antennas.

http://www.cubex.com/index.htm

Jay in the Mojave

jim wrote:

Ever think of a JoGunn? Maybe Jay in the Mojave can come up with
something.


I PUNCE AGAINNE


james October 26th 06 07:23 PM

11 meter quad beam
 
On 26 Oct 2006 11:04:49 GMT, Steveo wrote:

+++Yeah I was looking at the JO GUNN STAR and comparing it to the Maco Comet.
+++The comet is lighter and less expensive but I don't know about durability.
+++The 3 + 3 has a bit better rejection and gain numbers, if they're to be
+++believed.

****************

Steveo

I used an antenna like the Star back in the 70's called a Gizmotchy. I
had a four element version. One thing that that beam had was a very
deep null at about 120 degrees both sides from the front. Easily knock
down a signal 6 or 7 S units no trouble. Had the top of the driven
element at about 36 feet and it worked very well ground wave. I could
talk with 5 watts easily here in Florida 100 miles just about every
night.

The Star has a bit unbelievable rejection numbers. Still the design
does not appear to be a bad one from what I can determine by looking
at the pictures and limited description. From the boom length of the 4
element and three element designs it seems to be somewhat similar to
what I had. My 4 element was on a 13 foot boom. It could have been on
a slightly shorter boom.

james

james October 26th 06 07:36 PM

11 meter quad beam
 
On Wed, 25 Oct 2006 13:08:49 -0400, Vinnie S.
wrote:

+++On 25 Oct 2006 04:50:05 GMT, Steveo wrote:
+++
+++Which is the best light wind load horizontal/vertical on the market today?
+++
+++
+++I drive around alot, and find myself looking at antenna often. I almost never
+++see quads. I always see 3 element beams, and usualy with a combo of other ham
+++antennas (2M and such).
+++
+++Vinnie S.

*****************

Quads are very nice antennae. They are a bit more tidious to setup and
errect than single polarity yagis are. Being that the driven element
is a full wavelength the feed impednace is much different than that of
a yagi and a better broad band match can be implemented.

One disadvantage of quads is that they need to be physcally higher
than a horizontal yagi. Depending on how you mount the rotation of the
antenna, can even make the placement of the boom even higher. A major
advantage of a quad is that element for element, the quad will have
more gain than a yagi design.

One other thing is the fiberglass spreaders whould be protected from
UV light. Some form of coating to block UV light is a necessity. UV
light tends to break down the resin composition of the spreaders. In
years gone by bamboo spreaders were used with some degree of success.

james

Steveo October 26th 06 09:59 PM

11 meter quad beam
 
wrote:
On 26 Oct 2006 11:04:49 GMT, Steveo wrote:

+++Yeah I was looking at the JO GUNN STAR and comparing it to the Maco
Comet. +++The comet is lighter and less expensive but I don't know about
durability. +++The 3 + 3 has a bit better rejection and gain numbers, if
they're to be +++believed.

****************

Steveo

I used an antenna like the Star back in the 70's called a Gizmotchy.

One of these?

http://www.gizmotchy.com/

I've heard good things about those..I didn't find the price section so I'll
have to go back and do a little research later. I'd forgotten about them.
Thanks for the reminder, beerkeg.

I
had a four element version. One thing that that beam had was a very
deep null at about 120 degrees both sides from the front. Easily knock
down a signal 6 or 7 S units no trouble. Had the top of the driven
element at about 36 feet and it worked very well ground wave. I could
talk with 5 watts easily here in Florida 100 miles just about every
night.

Sounds decent.

The Star has a bit unbelievable rejection numbers. Still the design
does not appear to be a bad one from what I can determine by looking
at the pictures and limited description. From the boom length of the 4
element and three element designs it seems to be somewhat similar to
what I had. My 4 element was on a 13 foot boom. It could have been on
a slightly shorter boom.

james

Have you looked at the maco comet quad? (I posted the url earlier) I'm
trying to decide which has the most bang for the bucks, along with the wind
load and durability considerations.

Thanks for your input, keg.

Steveo October 26th 06 10:08 PM

11 meter quad beam
 
Steveo wrote:
Thanks for your input, keg.


err, James. :)

Slow Code October 27th 06 01:08 AM

11 meter quad beam
 
ScanDaBands wrote in
:

Hey look an actual question that makes sense............ :O)

On 25 Oct 2006 04:50:05 GMT, Steveo wrote:

Which is the best light wind load horizontal/vertical on the market
today?



CB'ers gotta buy off the shelf, they can't roll their own.

SC

james October 27th 06 01:25 PM

11 meter quad beam
 
On 26 Oct 2006 20:59:48 GMT, Steveo wrote:

+++One of these?
+++
+++http://www.gizmotchy.com/
+++
+++I've heard good things about those..I didn't find the price section so I'll
+++have to go back and do a little research later. I'd forgotten about them.
+++Thanks for the reminder, beerkeg.

**************

Yep that looks like it. I wonder if they redesigned the boom to
element clamps. That was the one weakness of the antenna. They used to
be made of "pot" metal aluminum and would crack after time due to the
wind. I had a freind tool some clamps for me from 6061-T6 aluminum and
they worked superior. I also replaced the Polyethelene dialectric
spacer in the gamma match with teflon.

Saw the pictures on the web page. One thing that would be better for
very long beams, 5 or 6 elements, is to increase the boom diameter.
This will prevent saging and not require the boom supports. This would
be acceptable to boom lengths of about 25 feet or so.

Never looked at others. Don't really spend that much time on the air
any more.

james

I AmnotGeorgeBush October 27th 06 06:51 PM

11 meter quad beam
 
From: (Steveo)
"pete" wrote:
"Steveo" wrote in message
...
Which is the best light wind load


horizontal/vertical on the market today?


(Hardly anyone uses them, try google for reviews. )

Yeah I tried that first and it seems you're right,


Pete. My Y-quad is wore out after many years


of good service and I was wondering if the


Maco comet would be much of an upgrade:


Or just buy another Y-quad.


I wish the PDL II was still being made.


Have you considered stacked V-quads?


Steveo October 27th 06 09:03 PM

11 meter quad beam
 
(I AmnotGeorgeBush) wrote:
From:
(Steveo)
I wish the PDL II was still being made.


Have you considered stacked V-quads?

Not really. I think jo gunn is the route I'm going so far. Anyone disagree?

Steveo October 27th 06 09:09 PM

11 meter quad beam
 
wrote:
On 26 Oct 2006 20:59:48 GMT, Steveo wrote:

+++One of these?
+++
+++
http://www.gizmotchy.com/
+++
+++I've heard good things about those..I didn't find the price section
so I'll +++have to go back and do a little research later. I'd forgotten
about them. +++Thanks for the reminder, beerkeg.

**************

Yep that looks like it. I wonder if they redesigned the boom to
element clamps. That was the one weakness of the antenna. They used to
be made of "pot" metal aluminum and would crack after time due to the
wind. I had a freind tool some clamps for me from 6061-T6 aluminum and
they worked superior. I also replaced the Polyethelene dialectric
spacer in the gamma match with teflon.

Saw the pictures on the web page. One thing that would be better for
very long beams, 5 or 6 elements, is to increase the boom diameter.
This will prevent saging and not require the boom supports. This would
be acceptable to boom lengths of about 25 feet or so.

Never looked at others. Don't really spend that much time on the air
any more.

james

Thanks James, that antenna is sorta tempting and looks fairly stout
especially if I could say I'm ruining a 'gizmotchy'. I like the sound of
that!

I'm leaning toward the 3 element jo gunn tho. Reckon that's OK?

Steveo October 28th 06 04:01 AM

11 meter quad beam
 
wrote:
On 26 Oct 2006 11:04:49 GMT, Steveo wrote:

+++Yeah I was looking at the JO GUNN STAR and comparing it to the Maco
Comet. +++The comet is lighter and less expensive but I don't know about
durability. +++The 3 + 3 has a bit better rejection and gain numbers, if
they're to be +++believed.

****************

Steveo

I used an antenna like the Star back in the 70's called a Gizmotchy.
-snip-



I've been corresponding with that guy via email since you mentioned
Gizmotchy and I gotta say he is very good with support for his product, I'm
impressed.

Demon Lord of Confusion October 28th 06 07:31 AM

11 meter quad beam
 
On Thu, 26 Oct 2006 09:27:25 -0700, I PUNCE attempted to confuse the issue
further by squeaking:
Steveo wrote:
Hi Jay.

Yeah someone emailed me about those and said they were happy with it. I
can't say I've ever heard of them before. Do you have any hands on
experience with them?

Jay in the Mojave wrote:
Hello Stevo and jim:

Look at the Qubex Magum CB Series Quad antennas.

http://www.cubex.com/index.htm

Jay in the Mojave
jim wrote:

Ever think of a JoGunn? Maybe Jay in the Mojave can come up with
something.


I PUNCE AGAINNE


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jim October 30th 06 01:51 AM

11 meter quad beam
 
Steveo wrote:

(I AmnotGeorgeBush) wrote:

From:
(Steveo)

I wish the PDL II was still being made.


Have you considered stacked V-quads?


Not really. I think jo gunn is the route I'm going so far. Anyone disagree?

Being a fan of the ants, the only thing i can say about them is its 10+
years in a salt air environment and the only thing I modified was the
nuts/screws to stainless.

Steveo October 30th 06 10:04 AM

11 meter quad beam
 
jim wrote:
Steveo wrote:

(I AmnotGeorgeBush) wrote:

From:
(Steveo)

I wish the PDL II was still being made.

Have you considered stacked V-quads?


Not really. I think jo gunn is the route I'm going so far. Anyone
disagree?


Being a fan of the ants, the only thing i can say about them is its 10+
years in a salt air environment and the only thing I modified was the
nuts/screws to stainless.

Dang, you'd think it would come with stainless screws. *******s! :)

james October 31st 06 02:21 AM

11 meter quad beam
 
On Sun, 29 Oct 2006 20:51:14 -0500, jim
wrote:

+++Steveo wrote:
+++
+++ (I AmnotGeorgeBush) wrote:
+++
+++From:
(Steveo)
+++
+++I wish the PDL II was still being made.
+++
+++Have you considered stacked V-quads?
+++
+++
+++ Not really. I think jo gunn is the route I'm going so far. Anyone disagree?
+++Being a fan of the ants, the only thing i can say about them is its 10+
+++years in a salt air environment and the only thing I modified was the
+++nuts/screws to stainless.

*************

I prefer chrome plated brass for marine and salt environment over
stainless steel. With enough exposure and time, SS will rust. Brass
never rusts.


james

keyclowns are the squirming worms on the fruit of hobby communications October 31st 06 09:20 AM

11 meter quad beam
 

Steveo wrote:
Which is the best light wind load horizontal/vertical on the market today?


Never been a cb beam with a boom long enough for the frequency coverage.


Steveo October 31st 06 11:28 AM

11 meter quad beam
 
"keyclowns are the squirming worms on the fruit of hobby communications"
wrote:
Steveo wrote:
Which is the best light wind load horizontal/vertical on the market
today?


Never been a cb beam with a boom long enough for the frequency coverage.

We've all seen your antenna, dogie.

http://n8wwm.4t.com/photo.html

Now go lay down by your bowl.

jim November 1st 06 12:33 AM

11 meter quad beam
 
james wrote:
On Sun, 29 Oct 2006 20:51:14 -0500, jim
wrote:


+++Steveo wrote:
+++
+++ (I AmnotGeorgeBush) wrote:
+++
+++From:
(Steveo)
+++
+++I wish the PDL II was still being made.
+++
+++Have you considered stacked V-quads?
+++
+++
+++ Not really. I think jo gunn is the route I'm going so far. Anyone disagree?
+++Being a fan of the ants, the only thing i can say about them is its 10+
+++years in a salt air environment and the only thing I modified was the
+++nuts/screws to stainless.


*************

I prefer chrome plated brass for marine and salt environment over
stainless steel. With enough exposure and time, SS will rust. Brass
never rusts.


james

Cheers James, but where am I missing something when you say stainless
steel rusts? Wouldn't brass oxidize in a salt environment? Besides what
I am reffering to is the nuts/bolts holding the kit together. An
observant operator will inspect his kit yearly and make adjustments
accordingly.

Slow Code November 1st 06 12:43 AM

11 meter quad beam
 
jim wrote in :

james wrote:
On Sun, 29 Oct 2006 20:51:14 -0500, jim
wrote:


+++Steveo wrote:
+++
+++ (I AmnotGeorgeBush) wrote:
+++
+++From:
(Steveo)
+++
+++I wish the PDL II was still being made.
+++
+++Have you considered stacked V-quads?
+++
+++
+++ Not really. I think jo gunn is the route I'm going so far. Anyone
disagree? +++Being a fan of the ants, the only thing i can say about
them is its 10+ +++years in a salt air environment and the only thing I
modified was the +++nuts/screws to stainless.


*************

I prefer chrome plated brass for marine and salt environment over
stainless steel. With enough exposure and time, SS will rust. Brass
never rusts.


james

Cheers James, but where am I missing something when you say stainless
steel rusts? Wouldn't brass oxidize in a salt environment? Besides what
I am reffering to is the nuts/bolts holding the kit together. An
observant operator will inspect his kit yearly and make adjustments
accordingly.



CB'ers aren't all that observant.

SC

jim November 1st 06 01:33 AM

11 meter quad beam
 
Slow Code wrote:

jim wrote in :


james wrote:

On Sun, 29 Oct 2006 20:51:14 -0500, jim
wrote:



+++Steveo wrote:
+++
+++ (I AmnotGeorgeBush) wrote:
+++
+++From:
(Steveo)
+++
+++I wish the PDL II was still being made.
+++
+++Have you considered stacked V-quads?
+++
+++
+++ Not really. I think jo gunn is the route I'm going so far. Anyone
disagree? +++Being a fan of the ants, the only thing i can say about
them is its 10+ +++years in a salt air environment and the only thing I
modified was the +++nuts/screws to stainless.

*************

I prefer chrome plated brass for marine and salt environment over
stainless steel. With enough exposure and time, SS will rust. Brass
never rusts.


james


Cheers James, but where am I missing something when you say stainless
steel rusts? Wouldn't brass oxidize in a salt environment? Besides what
I am reffering to is the nuts/bolts holding the kit together. An
observant operator will inspect his kit yearly and make adjustments
accordingly.




CB'ers aren't all that observant.

SC

Ya know mate you've been postng negative crap concerning cb operators
for the past several months. Whats up with that? I'm thinking, correct
me if I'm wrong, you have nothing better to do. Do you post on the
amateur ng's with any relative discussions?

Steveo November 1st 06 02:48 AM

11 meter quad beam
 
jim wrote:
james wrote:
On Sun, 29 Oct 2006 20:51:14 -0500, jim
wrote:


+++Steveo wrote:
+++
+++ (I AmnotGeorgeBush) wrote:
+++
+++From:
(Steveo)
+++
+++I wish the PDL II was still being made.
+++
+++Have you considered stacked V-quads?
+++
+++
+++ Not really. I think jo gunn is the route I'm going so far. Anyone
disagree? +++Being a fan of the ants, the only thing i can say about
them is its 10+ +++years in a salt air environment and the only thing I
modified was the +++nuts/screws to stainless.


*************

I prefer chrome plated brass for marine and salt environment over
stainless steel. With enough exposure and time, SS will rust. Brass
never rusts.


james

Cheers James, but where am I missing something when you say stainless
steel rusts? Wouldn't brass oxidize in a salt environment? Besides what
I am reffering to is the nuts/bolts holding the kit together. An
observant operator will inspect his kit yearly and make adjustments
accordingly.

Stainless is usually adequate for one antenna lifetime here in Ohio. Dunno
much about antenna hardware life down by the sharks and such.

Landshark November 1st 06 03:09 PM

11 meter quad beam
 

"jim" wrote in message ...
james wrote:
On Sun, 29 Oct 2006 20:51:14 -0500, jim
wrote:


+++Steveo wrote:
+++
+++ (I AmnotGeorgeBush) wrote:
+++ +++From:
(Steveo)
+++
+++I wish the PDL II was still being made.
+++
+++Have you considered stacked V-quads?
+++
+++ +++ Not really. I think jo gunn is the route I'm going so far. Anyone
disagree?
+++Being a fan of the ants, the only thing i can say about them is its 10+
+++years in a salt air environment and the only thing I modified was the
+++nuts/screws to stainless.


*************

I prefer chrome plated brass for marine and salt environment over
stainless steel. With enough exposure and time, SS will rust. Brass
never rusts. james

Cheers James, but where am I missing something when you say stainless steel rusts?
Wouldn't brass oxidize in a salt environment? Besides what I am reffering to is
the nuts/bolts holding the kit together. An observant operator will inspect his
kit yearly and make adjustments accordingly.


Howdy Jim,

Yes SS does rust, but at a far lower rate than regular steel. Brass might
oxidize a little, but will never corrode under salt air environments.

Landshark



Slow Code November 2nd 06 01:23 AM

11 meter quad beam
 
jim wrote in :

Slow Code wrote:

jim wrote in
:


james wrote:

On Sun, 29 Oct 2006 20:51:14 -0500, jim
wrote:



+++Steveo wrote:
+++
+++ (I AmnotGeorgeBush) wrote:
+++
+++From:
(Steveo)
+++
+++I wish the PDL II was still being made.
+++
+++Have you considered stacked V-quads?
+++
+++
+++ Not really. I think jo gunn is the route I'm going so far.
Anyone disagree? +++Being a fan of the ants, the only thing i can say
about them is its 10+ +++years in a salt air environment and the only
thing I modified was the +++nuts/screws to stainless.

*************

I prefer chrome plated brass for marine and salt environment over
stainless steel. With enough exposure and time, SS will rust. Brass
never rusts.


james

Cheers James, but where am I missing something when you say stainless
steel rusts? Wouldn't brass oxidize in a salt environment? Besides what
I am reffering to is the nuts/bolts holding the kit together. An
observant operator will inspect his kit yearly and make adjustments
accordingly.




CB'ers aren't all that observant.

SC

Ya know mate you've been postng negative crap concerning cb operators
for the past several months. Whats up with that?



Just being observant.

SC


Landshark November 2nd 06 02:35 AM

11 meter quad beam
 

"jim" wrote in message
...

Ya know mate you've been postng negative crap concerning cb operators for
the past several months. Whats up with that? I'm thinking, correct me if
I'm wrong, you have nothing better to do. Do you post on the amateur ng's
with any relative discussions?


On a lighter note, how about them Niners???? LMAO!!!!

Landshark



RadioGuy November 2nd 06 03:46 AM

11 meter quad beam
 
In article k.net,
says...
ScanDaBands wrote in
:

Hey look an actual question that makes sense............ :O)

On 25 Oct 2006 04:50:05 GMT, Steveo wrote:

Which is the best light wind load horizontal/vertical on the market
today?



CB'ers gotta buy off the shelf, they can't roll their own.

SC

You wouldn't know. You couldn't homebrew a cup of hot water!

RadioGuy November 2nd 06 03:47 AM

11 meter quad beam
 



I'm glad they quit making it. CB'ers should be seen, not heard.

SC


You're a Radio Bigot!!!!!!!!!! You pick on those who aren't like you.
You're just jealous because no one will talk to you on the CB since you
loast your Ham License.


IDIOT!!!!


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