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Telstar Electronics January 1st 07 11:52 PM

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U-Know-Who wrote:
Don't LOL. They might not buy your splatterboxes.


You're quite right... but it's really not because they are
splatterboxes... as you put it. Really, they are quite linear with the
fully temperature controlled AB-Biasing (active transistor tracking..
not just plain diode). It's usually because they can't afford one...

www.telstar-electronics.com


U-Know-Who January 2nd 07 02:43 AM

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"Telstar Electronics" wrote in message
oups.com...
U-Know-Who wrote:
Don't LOL. They might not buy your splatterboxes.


You're quite right... but it's really not because they are
splatterboxes... as you put it. Really, they are quite linear with the
fully temperature controlled AB-Biasing (active transistor tracking..
not just plain diode). It's usually because they can't afford one...

www.telstar-electronics.com


I see. I suppose the kitchen production line is still giving you troubles?
Just can't seem to find that magic balance between sales and costs? "LOL"



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Frank Gilliland January 2nd 07 02:49 AM

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On 1 Jan 2007 15:52:12 -0800, "Telstar Electronics"
wrote in
.com:

U-Know-Who wrote:
Don't LOL. They might not buy your splatterboxes.


You're quite right... but it's really not because they are
splatterboxes... as you put it. Really, they are quite linear with the
fully temperature controlled AB-Biasing (active transistor tracking..
not just plain diode). It's usually because they can't afford one...



I've explained this to you many times before, Brian, but obviously it
didn't sink in. So here you go:

linearity -- 1. The relationship existing between two quantities when
a change in a second quantity is directly proportionate to a change in
the first quantity. 2. Deviation from a straight-line response to an
input signal..... etc, etc, etc.

Now look at the response curve in the spec sheet that -YOU- wrote for
-YOUR- amp. Is that a straight line? No, not unless you are either
drunk or using noneuclidean geometry. Your amp, by definition, is
non-linear.





Telstar Electronics January 2nd 07 01:16 PM

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u-Know-Who wrote:
I see. I suppose the kitchen production line is still giving you troubles?
Just can't seem to find that magic balance between sales and costs? "LOL"


You are absolutely right... my production is extremely limited and I
command a premium price. I produce around one amp per month now. With
all the projects I have going now... that's just fine for my needs.

www.telstar-electronics.com


Telstar Electronics January 2nd 07 01:21 PM

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Frank Gilliland wrote:
Now look at the response curve in the spec sheet that -YOU- wrote for
-YOUR- amp. Is that a straight line? No, not unless you are either
drunk or using noneuclidean geometry. Your amp, by definition, is
non-linear.


Frank... are you back on the sauce again? The line in the spec sheet
looks awful straight to me... except at the 1dB compression point.
That's the point where the linearity stops... hello Frank. Are you just
playing dumb again?

www.telstar-electronics.com


Frank Gilliland January 2nd 07 02:53 PM

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On 2 Jan 2007 05:21:19 -0800, "Telstar Electronics"
wrote in
. com:

Frank Gilliland wrote:
Now look at the response curve in the spec sheet that -YOU- wrote for
-YOUR- amp. Is that a straight line? No, not unless you are either
drunk or using noneuclidean geometry. Your amp, by definition, is
non-linear.


Frank... are you back on the sauce again? The line in the spec sheet
looks awful straight to me... except at the 1dB compression point.
That's the point where the linearity stops... hello Frank. Are you just
playing dumb again?



First, let's revisit one question that you have repeatedly ignored:
The power gain of one transistor is 15 dB. Your amp is rated for 15dB.
So why does it have two transistors?

Now for the math. Staying within your "linear" region, here are the
numbers from the last revision of your data sheet (can't seem to find
the current sheet on your site; I wonder why....LOL!!!):

Input: 1 watt
Carrier: 47 watts
100% mod: 71 watts

There's the base. Now let's look at the next line:

Input: 2 watts
Carrier: 84 watts
100% mod: 126 watts

Hmmm..... since you multiplied the input by two, the output of a
linear amp would also be multiplied by two. IOW, your carrier and 100%
mod outputs should be 94 watts and 142 watts, respectively. Next line:

Input: 3 watts
Carrier: 120 watts
100% mod: 180 watts

Well, you may not be using Bird watts but it's clear that you flunked
third-grade math. I'm pretty sure that 47 x 3 = 141, and 71 x 3 = 213.
Is this the "new math"? or are you just using the 'force'?

And with that 1dB "compression point", are you trying to suggest, or
even subtly imply, that this is insignificant? I hope not because at
your 1dB "compression point" you are pumping 34 watts of pure harmonic
distortion into the air..... with an unmodulated carrier!!!

Are you finally going to address these issues? Or are you going to
crawl back into your corner and pout for a few more months?






Telstar Electronics January 2nd 07 03:50 PM

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Frank Gilliland wrote:
Are you finally going to address these issues? Or are you going to
crawl back into your corner and pout for a few more months?


Rather than a pointless argument with you Frank... think I'll go to my
corner... LOL

www.telstar-electronics.com


Frank Gilliland January 3rd 07 02:39 AM

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On 2 Jan 2007 07:50:15 -0800, "Telstar Electronics"
wrote in
.com:

Frank Gilliland wrote:
Are you finally going to address these issues? Or are you going to
crawl back into your corner and pout for a few more months?


Rather than a pointless argument with you Frank... think I'll go to my
corner... LOL



In your own little corner, in your own little chair, you can be
whatever you want to be..... even an electronics engineer. After all,
impossible things are happening everyday!






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