Hello Steveo:

Yep it sure is. Having coffee with the local old fart CW hams, it really
erks a few of em! Thank you FCC.

Jay in the Mojave

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I hear that a lot of the no code techs will be around 28.385 Mc, on the
23 rd

Steveo wrote:
A day that will live in infamy.


aka- apartment dwellers unleashed. adu

Yep it sure is. Having coffee with the local old fart CW hams, it really
erks a few of em! Thank you FCC.

I passed the below info around on a few ham sites and one guy wrote back,
"Whoppy ****ing doo". I laughed my ass off!


I hear that a lot of the no code techs will be around 28.385 Mc, on the
23 rd

There was lots of skip on CB a few days ago. When these spots come back
around in two weeks, 10 meters should be hopping on the weekend of the 23rd.
Heck, Thursday I made a contact to Nebraska on 38 lower.

One contest club is making it the whole weekend instead of one day. My 2950
is ready to go. How much do I need to trim off a Wilson 1000 to make it
resonant at 28.5 MHz? I can't test it before the 23rd and I need it that day.

On Sat, 10 Feb 2007 03:02:36 -0500, Scott in Baltimore
wrote:

+++There was lots of skip on CB a few days ago. When these spots come back
+++around in two weeks, 10 meters should be hopping on the weekend of the 23rd.
+++Heck, Thursday I made a contact to Nebraska on 38 lower.
************

The equatorial rotation period of the Sun is about 25 days. It slows
down as you go higher in latidtude of the Sun. The Polar regions of
the Sun rotate in about 35 days.

Therefore depending on the latitude of the spots the trek around the
backside may take between 12 and 17 days.

james

I hear that a lot of the no code techs will be around 28.385 Mc, on the 23 rd

The word on this side is to meet on 28.365 USB.
Won't the 10-10 people on 28.370 just love it?

Hello Scott:

I am not saying to interfere with other stations. But I just had to make
fun of the way some of the amateurs are taking the no code testing that
our goverment has handed down.

Gee whiz yeah the Ten Ten Club, they are a Ten Meter Ham Club.
http://www.ten-ten.org/
Hope they will be a help here. What type traffic do they have there on
28.370 Mc USB???? Maybe a net?

I can use all the Ten Meter Band, but it sure needs more activity. Yeah
I'll bet 28.365, 28.375, 28.385, 28.395, and 28.405 will active, maybe?

Jay in the Mojave


Scott in Baltimore wrote:
I hear that a lot of the no code techs will be around 28.385 Mc, on
the 23 rd


The word on this side is to meet on 28.365 USB.
Won't the 10-10 people on 28.370 just love it?

:
.. But I just had to make
fun of the way some of the amateurs are taking the no code testing that


I can use all the Ten Meter Band, but it sure needs more activity. Yeah
I'll bet 28.365, 28.375, 28.385, 28.395, and 28.405 will active, maybe?


The pro-code hams have been arguing that Galaxy radios are perfectly
legal for hams to use on 10 meters, even though they're illegal for
cb'ers to use on 10 meters.

Well, IF that's the case, then a lot of Galaxy radios suddenly became
legal on 10 meters from a bunch of people passing their ham tests
without having to take a code test.

And we all now how those hams LOVE those Galaxy radios.

I don't think they're legal even for hams since they can transmit in
the 11 meter cb band with more powwer than allowed.

But since the old pro-code hams have been arguing that they are
perfectly legal for hams to use.....

On 28 Feb 2007 20:06:15 -0800, "------------"
wrote:

+++:
+++. But I just had to make
+++ fun of the way some of the amateurs are taking the no code testing that
+++
+++
+++ I can use all the Ten Meter Band, but it sure needs more activity. Yeah
+++ I'll bet 28.365, 28.375, 28.385, 28.395, and 28.405 will active, maybe?
+++
+++
+++The pro-code hams have been arguing that Galaxy radios are perfectly
+++legal for hams to use on 10 meters, even though they're illegal for
+++cb'ers to use on 10 meters.
+++
+++Well, IF that's the case, then a lot of Galaxy radios suddenly became
+++legal on 10 meters from a bunch of people passing their ham tests
+++without having to take a code test.
+++
+++And we all now how those hams LOVE those Galaxy radios.
+++
+++I don't think they're legal even for hams since they can transmit in
+++the 11 meter cb band with more powwer than allowed.
+++
+++But since the old pro-code hams have been arguing that they are
+++perfectly legal for hams to use.....
+++
+++
+++
*****************

By the letter of the Law, they are not type accepted radios. Or better
yet thay have not been certified for the band in which Hams wish to
use them. Therefore are illegal to sell for use in that spectrum.

Still any Ham with half decent skills can build a unit that would tune
the 10M band and out perform any commercial radio built for the CB
market.

james

Ham radios DON'T have to be certified by the FCC...
a person can even build their own gear if they want. Many folks modify
11-meter radios to get on 10-meters and it's perfectly legal. What the FCC
has a problem with is the so-called 'Dual Use' radios which the Galaxies,
Presidents, Connex's, et.al. become once they have been modified for
11-meters. 'Type Acceptance', now called' FCC Certification' however IS
required for 11-meter radios which makes the above mentioned radios illegal.



"james" wrote in message
...
On 28 Feb 2007 20:06:15 -0800, "------------"
wrote:

+++:
+++. But I just had to make
+++ fun of the way some of the amateurs are taking the no code testing
that
+++
+++
+++ I can use all the Ten Meter Band, but it sure needs more activity.
Yeah
+++ I'll bet 28.365, 28.375, 28.385, 28.395, and 28.405 will active,
maybe?
+++
+++
+++The pro-code hams have been arguing that Galaxy radios are perfectly
+++legal for hams to use on 10 meters, even though they're illegal for
+++cb'ers to use on 10 meters.
+++
+++Well, IF that's the case, then a lot of Galaxy radios suddenly became
+++legal on 10 meters from a bunch of people passing their ham tests
+++without having to take a code test.
+++
+++And we all now how those hams LOVE those Galaxy radios.
+++
+++I don't think they're legal even for hams since they can transmit in
+++the 11 meter cb band with more powwer than allowed.
+++
+++But since the old pro-code hams have been arguing that they are
+++perfectly legal for hams to use.....
+++
+++
+++
*****************

By the letter of the Law, they are not type accepted radios. Or better
yet thay have not been certified for the band in which Hams wish to
use them. Therefore are illegal to sell for use in that spectrum.

Still any Ham with half decent skills can build a unit that would tune
the 10M band and out perform any commercial radio built for the CB
market.

james

A.E. 352 wrote:
Ham radios DON'T have to be certified by the FCC...
a person can even build their own gear if they want. Many folks modify
11-meter radios to get on 10-meters and it's perfectly legal. What the FCC
has a problem with is the so-called 'Dual Use' radios which the Galaxies,
Presidents, Connex's, et.al. become once they have been modified for
11-meters. 'Type Acceptance', now called' FCC Certification' however IS
required for 11-meter radios which makes the above mentioned radios illegal.



"james" wrote in message
...
On 28 Feb 2007 20:06:15 -0800, "------------"
wrote:

+++:
+++. But I just had to make
+++ fun of the way some of the amateurs are taking the no code testing
that
+++
+++
+++ I can use all the Ten Meter Band, but it sure needs more activity.
Yeah
+++ I'll bet 28.365, 28.375, 28.385, 28.395, and 28.405 will active,
maybe?
+++
+++
+++The pro-code hams have been arguing that Galaxy radios are perfectly
+++legal for hams to use on 10 meters, even though they're illegal for
+++cb'ers to use on 10 meters.
+++
+++Well, IF that's the case, then a lot of Galaxy radios suddenly became
+++legal on 10 meters from a bunch of people passing their ham tests
+++without having to take a code test.
+++
+++And we all now how those hams LOVE those Galaxy radios.
+++
+++I don't think they're legal even for hams since they can transmit in
+++the 11 meter cb band with more powwer than allowed.
+++
+++But since the old pro-code hams have been arguing that they are
+++perfectly legal for hams to use.....
+++
+++
+++
*****************

By the letter of the Law, they are not type accepted radios. Or better
yet thay have not been certified for the band in which Hams wish to
use them. Therefore are illegal to sell for use in that spectrum.

Still any Ham with half decent skills can build a unit that would tune
the 10M band and out perform any commercial radio built for the CB
market.

james


If you are making a transmitter or power amplifier for personal use
then, no, the FCC does not have to approve it. It however must meet
certain FCC mandated specifications. If it doesn't then it is "ILLEGAL"
and it's use can subject the operator to sanctions.
If you making a transmitter or amplifier for sale then it "MUST" be
approved by the FCC as meeting the afore said specifications.
The various so called 10 meter ham transceivers under discussion here do
not meet these specifications and are "TOTALLY" illegal for use by
anyone in the jurisdiction of the FCC. 11 meter transceivers may be
converted to 10 meter use due to the fact that the 11 meter transceiver
has been approved (?) for use by the FCC. Also hams may now purchase
power amplifiers that have 10 meter capability manufactured into it by
the manufacturer. This has been the case for a couple of years now.

David WD9BDZ

On Thu, 1 Mar 2007 11:03:40 -0500, "A.E. 352"
wrote:

+++Ham radios DON'T have to be certified by the FCC...
+++a person can even build their own gear if they want. Many folks modify
+++11-meter radios to get on 10-meters and it's perfectly legal. What the FCC
+++has a problem with is the so-called 'Dual Use' radios which the Galaxies,
+++Presidents, Connex's, et.al. become once they have been modified for
+++11-meters. 'Type Acceptance', now called' FCC Certification' however IS
+++required for 11-meter radios which makes the above mentioned radios illegal.
+++
************
FCC Certification is required for all commercial manufactured
transmitters in the US. The exception is for amatures who make five or
less in a calendar year.

Any radio that is commercially manufactured for the CB band is not
certified for the amamture bands. And vice versa. The FCC will not
certify it for both. Also any transmitter in which more than five are
manufactured within a calendar year must have FCC certification in
order for it to be legally sold in the US. RAdios like the Galaxies
and other so called "export" radios are not certified in the US and
are not legal to sell. Therefore they are not FCC Certified radios
even for amature use.

james