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David[_2_] July 7th 07 08:50 PM

legal power
 
Does anyone run legal power anymore? I can sit in my jeep and work the
United States and many times the world on any band from 10 to 40 meters
running 40 watts. But I can't seem to make a damn CB contact. I modified
my Yaesu FT840 for open TX when the 60 meter band became available to hams
and I can TX on the CB channels now. Even running 20 W AM no one seems to
hear me on any CB channel though I can tune up to 10 Meters and get a 59+20
signal report from Arizona an the same radio and antenna. I'm starting to
think that every CBer runs 600 Watts with a bad receiver. I used to have a
lot of fun with a little 4 watt CB when I was a kid and before I got my ham
ticket.

David KG2LI



Scott in Baltimore July 8th 07 02:32 PM

legal power
 
David wrote:
Does anyone run legal power anymore? I can sit in my jeep and work the
United States and many times the world on any band from 10 to 40 meters
running 40 watts. But I can't seem to make a damn CB contact. I modified
my Yaesu FT840 for open TX when the 60 meter band became available to hams
and I can TX on the CB channels now. Even running 20 W AM no one seems to
hear me on any CB channel though I can tune up to 10 Meters and get a 59+20
signal report from Arizona an the same radio and antenna. I'm starting to
think that every CBer runs 600 Watts with a bad receiver. I used to have a
lot of fun with a little 4 watt CB when I was a kid and before I got my ham
ticket.



The band is a bit noisy. I can make contacts all over on 10 meters, but I
can yell until I'm hoarse on 11 meters with 125 watts.

Telstar Electronics July 8th 07 02:47 PM

legal power
 
On Jul 7, 2:50 pm, "David" wrote:
Does anyone run legal power anymore? I can sit in my jeep and work the
United States and many times the world on any band from 10 to 40 meters
running 40 watts. But I can't seem to make a damn CB contact. I modified
my Yaesu FT840 for open TX when the 60 meter band became available to hams
and I can TX on the CB channels now. Even running 20 W AM no one seems to
hear me on any CB channel though I can tune up to 10 Meters and get a 59+20
signal report from Arizona an the same radio and antenna. I'm starting to
think that every CBer runs 600 Watts with a bad receiver. I used to have a
lot of fun with a little 4 watt CB when I was a kid and before I got my ham
ticket.

David KG2LI


Yes... I run 100% legal. I talk to people every day on the way to and
from work.
www.telstar-electronics


Frank Gilliland July 9th 07 12:19 AM

legal power
 
On Sun, 08 Jul 2007 06:47:37 -0700, Telspam Electronics
wrote in
om:

On Jul 7, 2:50 pm, "David" wrote:
Does anyone run legal power anymore? I can sit in my jeep and work the
United States and many times the world on any band from 10 to 40 meters
running 40 watts. But I can't seem to make a damn CB contact. I modified
my Yaesu FT840 for open TX when the 60 meter band became available to hams
and I can TX on the CB channels now. Even running 20 W AM no one seems to
hear me on any CB channel though I can tune up to 10 Meters and get a 59+20
signal report from Arizona an the same radio and antenna. I'm starting to
think that every CBer runs 600 Watts with a bad receiver. I used to have a
lot of fun with a little 4 watt CB when I was a kid and before I got my ham
ticket.

David KG2LI


Yes... I run 100% legal.



You admitted just a few posts ago that you modified your two radios
with your hack-job of a processor: "I have two installed in both my
Cobra19 and Cobra25 using the stock mic on one... and the Astatic 636L
on the other. They both work like a million bucks." So either you are
lying about them being installed in your radios and working "like a
million bucks" or you are lying about being 100% legal. Or both.


I talk to people every day on the way to and
from work.



Considering you live and "work" in your parent's basement, you must be
sleeping with a walkie-talkie. That's perverted, Brian.




FUBAR July 10th 07 03:39 AM

legal power
 
David wrote:

Does anyone run legal power anymore? I can sit in my jeep and work the
United States and many times the world on any band from 10 to 40 meters
running 40 watts. But I can't seem to make a damn CB contact. I modified
my Yaesu FT840 for open TX when the 60 meter band became available to hams
and I can TX on the CB channels now. Even running 20 W AM no one seems to
hear me on any CB channel though I can tune up to 10 Meters and get a
59+20
signal report from Arizona an the same radio and antenna. I'm starting to
think that every CBer runs 600 Watts with a bad receiver. I used to have
a lot of fun with a little 4 watt CB when I was a kid and before I got my
ham ticket.

David KG2LI


David,
You might be right on that. I hear much the same up here In Washington
State. I am wondering if its because of all those fools running 600 watts
sitting right next to one-another and burning up their front ends doing it.

I have been hearing some skip on 10 of late (and I did hear a familiar
callsign or 2 out of phoenix on 28.350 USb this last week).

anyway, I wouldn't worry too much about those 11 meter operators and
their "LEENEEARS" snicker. just have fun working the other bands and know
that you can do so on under 100 watts. :)

FUBAR

Telstar Electronics July 10th 07 12:26 PM

legal power
 
You admitted just a few posts ago that you modified your two radios
with your hack-job of a processor: "I have two installed in both my
Cobra19 and Cobra25 using the stock mic on one... and the Astatic 636L
on the other. They both work like a million bucks." So either you are
lying about them being installed in your radios and working "like a
million bucks" or you are lying about being 100% legal. Or both.


Both my radios are fully legal. They produce legal power... and the
modulation is a constant 100% with the VoiceMax module.
www.telstar-electronics.com


David[_2_] July 10th 07 02:58 PM

legal power
 
Sounds like a plan, I've been using CB CH6 to see when 10 is open and one
day I just thought I'd try tuning down to CH 19, "27.185 MHz on a real
radio" and see what I could do. I have a few local HAM friends that still
have a CB in their car or truck so I just ordered a Uniden PC68XL so I can
join the fun with out breaking any laws. If it sucks it was only $79.99 at
Amazon.com with free shipping so not much lost.

I was going to order a Cobra 148 GTL for the SSB but I stumbled onto a
picture of the inside of the radio and it was built like a piece of crap so
I went with Uniden. I can't imagine why Uniden dropped all SSB CB's from
their line, they sell nothing but AM now.

David KG2LI



"FUBAR" wrote in message
...
David wrote:

Does anyone run legal power anymore? I can sit in my jeep and work the
United States and many times the world on any band from 10 to 40 meters
running 40 watts. But I can't seem to make a damn CB contact. I
modified
my Yaesu FT840 for open TX when the 60 meter band became available to
hams
and I can TX on the CB channels now. Even running 20 W AM no one seems
to
hear me on any CB channel though I can tune up to 10 Meters and get a
59+20
signal report from Arizona an the same radio and antenna. I'm starting
to
think that every CBer runs 600 Watts with a bad receiver. I used to have
a lot of fun with a little 4 watt CB when I was a kid and before I got my
ham ticket.

David KG2LI


David,
You might be right on that. I hear much the same up here In Washington
State. I am wondering if its because of all those fools running 600 watts
sitting right next to one-another and burning up their front ends doing
it.

I have been hearing some skip on 10 of late (and I did hear a familiar
callsign or 2 out of phoenix on 28.350 USb this last week).

anyway, I wouldn't worry too much about those 11 meter operators and
their "LEENEEARS" snicker. just have fun working the other bands and
know
that you can do so on under 100 watts. :)

FUBAR




Frank Gilliland July 10th 07 05:29 PM

legal power
 
On Tue, 10 Jul 2007 04:26:21 -0700, Telspam Electronics
wrote in
.com:

You admitted just a few posts ago that you modified your two radios
with your hack-job of a processor: "I have two installed in both my
Cobra19 and Cobra25 using the stock mic on one... and the Astatic 636L
on the other. They both work like a million bucks." So either you are
lying about them being installed in your radios and working "like a
million bucks" or you are lying about being 100% legal. Or both.


Both my radios are fully legal. They produce legal power... and the
modulation is a constant 100% with the VoiceMax module.



CFR95.425(a): You must not make or have any one else make any internal
modification to your CB transmitter.
CFR95.425(c): You must not operate a CB transmitter which has been
modified by anyone in any way,....

You radios are illegal and operating them is illegal. You manufacture
and sell a product which has the sole purpose of illegal modification
and operation. Not only that, manufacturing and selling CB amps is
illegal, which is what you have been doing for the past 10 years. It
would be foolish to think that you don't use them, too. You are hardly
100% legal. You lied.

Also, you said that you weren't going to respond to any more of my
posts. You lied again.



moparhoLICK and chukkeesukkee are lovers July 10th 07 09:01 PM

legal power
 
On Jul 10, 1:29 pm, Frank Gilliland
wrote:
On Tue, 10 Jul 2007 04:26:21 -0700, Telspam Electronics
wrote in
.com:

You admitted just a few posts ago that you modified your two radios
with your hack-job of a processor: "I have two installed in both my
Cobra19 and Cobra25 using the stock mic on one... and the Astatic 636L
on the other. They both work like a million bucks." So either you are
lying about them being installed in your radios and working "like a
million bucks" or you are lying about being 100% legal. Or both.


Both my radios are fully legal. They produce legal power... and the
modulation is a constant 100% with the VoiceMax module.


CFR95.425(a): You must not make or have any one else make any internal
modification to your CB transmitter.
CFR95.425(c): You must not operate a CB transmitter which has been
modified by anyone in any way,....

You radios are illegal and operating them is illegal. You manufacture
and sell a product which has the sole purpose of illegal modification
and operation. Not only that, manufacturing and selling CB amps is
illegal, which is what you have been doing for the past 10 years. It
would be foolish to think that you don't use them, too. You are hardly
100% legal. You lied.

Also, you said that you weren't going to respond to any more of my
posts. You lied again.


Thats because all keyclowns lie, and basement boy is a keyclown


Jay in the Mojave July 11th 07 01:04 PM

legal power
 
FUBAR wrote:
David wrote:


Does anyone run legal power anymore? I can sit in my jeep and work the
United States and many times the world on any band from 10 to 40 meters
running 40 watts. But I can't seem to make a damn CB contact. I modified
my Yaesu FT840 for open TX when the 60 meter band became available to hams
and I can TX on the CB channels now. Even running 20 W AM no one seems to
hear me on any CB channel though I can tune up to 10 Meters and get a
59+20
signal report from Arizona an the same radio and antenna. I'm starting to
think that every CBer runs 600 Watts with a bad receiver. I used to have
a lot of fun with a little 4 watt CB when I was a kid and before I got my
ham ticket.

David KG2LI



David,
You might be right on that. I hear much the same up here In Washington
State. I am wondering if its because of all those fools running 600 watts
sitting right next to one-another and burning up their front ends doing it.

I have been hearing some skip on 10 of late (and I did hear a familiar
callsign or 2 out of phoenix on 28.350 USb this last week).

anyway, I wouldn't worry too much about those 11 meter operators and
their "LEENEEARS" snicker. just have fun working the other bands and know
that you can do so on under 100 watts. :)

FUBAR

You would be surprised to know how many guys want to upgrade there mono
band beams for 10 to 20 KW. Hehhehehehe

Jay in the Mojave

Vinnie S. July 11th 07 02:02 PM

legal power
 
On Sat, 7 Jul 2007 15:50:08 -0400, "David" wrote:

Does anyone run legal power anymore? I can sit in my jeep and work the
United States and many times the world on any band from 10 to 40 meters
running 40 watts. But I can't seem to make a damn CB contact. I modified
my Yaesu FT840 for open TX when the 60 meter band became available to hams
and I can TX on the CB channels now. Even running 20 W AM no one seems to
hear me on any CB channel though I can tune up to 10 Meters and get a 59+20
signal report from Arizona an the same radio and antenna. I'm starting to
think that every CBer runs 600 Watts with a bad receiver. I used to have a
lot of fun with a little 4 watt CB when I was a kid and before I got my ham
ticket.

David KG2LI



The CB band has gone to hell this summer. I cannot engage in local rag chew
because I have DX coming in like they are next door. I love DX, but sometime I
want to just BS with my friends.

Vinnie S.

Scott in Baltimore July 11th 07 11:07 PM

legal power
 
The CB band has gone to hell this summer. I cannot engage in local rag chew
because I have DX coming in like they are next door. I love DX, but sometime I
want to just BS with my friends.


And now you know why I earned privileges on lots of other frequencies.
11 meters is now just one band of many. I find folks that stay on one
band only. If you want to meet new people, you've just got to poke around...

Peter July 15th 07 08:23 PM

legal power
 
"Frank Gilliland" wrote...

CFR95.425(a): You must not make or have any one else make any internal
modification to your CB transmitter.
CFR95.425(c): You must not operate a CB transmitter which has been
modified by anyone in any way,....

You radios are illegal and operating them is illegal. You manufacture
and sell a product which has the sole purpose of illegal modification
and operation.


Out of interest, would it be legal if he put it in a box as a plug in
unit?


Regards,
Peter.
http://www.citizensband.radiouk.com/




Frank Gilliland July 15th 07 08:57 PM

legal power
 
On Sun, 15 Jul 2007 20:23:10 +0100, " Peter"
wrote in :

"Frank Gilliland" wrote...

CFR95.425(a): You must not make or have any one else make any internal
modification to your CB transmitter.
CFR95.425(c): You must not operate a CB transmitter which has been
modified by anyone in any way,....

You radios are illegal and operating them is illegal. You manufacture
and sell a product which has the sole purpose of illegal modification
and operation.


Out of interest, would it be legal if he put it in a box as a plug in
unit?



Yep, as long as the radio is not modified. The only external device
that is prohibited by Part 95 is an RF power amp.

That's U.S. rules, BTW.




Peter July 23rd 07 09:01 AM

legal power
 
"Frank Gilliland" wrote...
" Peter" wrote:

Out of interest, would it be legal if he put it in a box as
a plug in unit?


Yep, as long as the radio is not modified. The only external
device that is prohibited by Part 95 is an RF power amp.

That's U.S. rules, BTW.


As I expected :~)

Here in the UK, the use of power amps and pre-amps are
both illegal. However, as possession is not illegal, they
have to prove use.
The use of a SWR meter is only allowed while testing
the antenna.

External microphones could be a grey (or gray) area. The
radio is tested for approval, with the microphone that
will be supplied.
I believe that, if the manufacturer changes the microphone
supplied they must submit the radio for retesting - at a
very high cost.

But I see nothing in the rules about users plugging in any
replacement microphone they can get their hands on.

However, back to my original point...

His present method:
1. Is illegal.
2. Is only a board - putting off general CBers.
3. Is not as impressive to a CBer as a finished product.
4. Allows "screwdriver experts" to fekk up the
fitting and blame his product.
5. Has no way of proving "tampering", as the customer
is supposed to "tamper".
6. Allows less profit, with the extra going to
people, who may be wrecking the equipment.
7. Encourages "DIY" bodging inside radio.

What the potential customer is asking for:
1. Is legal.
2. Is "plug & play - CBer friendly.
3. Is a finished product and can look that way.
4. Ensures that only the manufacturer does
the wiring.
5. Can be warranty sealed.
6. Allows the manufacturer to make extra money
on the complete product.
7. Ensures the radio remains working as designed.


Yep, I can see why he decided to keep it as an
add-on board... You tell a CBer that the product
is legal, there's no way they are going to buy it.
:~)


Regards,
Peter.
http://www.citizensband.radiouk.com/




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