We have what I would call a keyclown on cb here, although he
technically isn't really doing anything illegal.

Except maybe using offensive language over the air.

And although I consider his language offensive, I also know what's
considered offensive in one area is considered
not ofensive and completely innocent in other areas.

Which is why the FCC doesn't have a list of official offensive words
not allowed to be said on the radio.

For example, a ham in Appalachia could end up in jail for the rest of
his life for saying
things that are commonly used there and completely innocent there that
northern hams take as
offensive and as admitting to committing a very serious crime.

Even though no crime was ever committed.

We also have a certain ham radio here (up north) that has indeed
committed very serious crimes but is
very smart and smart enough to have avoided getting in trouble for
comitting them.

I also consider him to be a jerk. However, a very smart jerk.

So I finally came to the conclusion that it isn't whether it's cb
radio or ham radio.

It's the kind of people you have in your community

Or the kind of the people in the community you're talking to on the
radio.

Enough about keyclowns. Now about keydowns.

I've seen several postings by ham radio operators putting down cbers
for keydowns, saying that they are illegal.

I've never participated in one myself and never plan to. It doesn't
interest me.

I've also heard on my scanner hams mentioning for hams to participate
in keydowns. And these were hams
who had passed their cw tests over twenty years ago.

Why is it legal for hams to have keydowns and cbers not to?

Or does having a keydown mean something different in ham radio than it
does in cb?

Which reminds me. I also read a post by hams complaing about "QSL" and
"Roger" being used as
qustions.

Granted, QSL should not be used as a question in the way they were
using it, but as long as I can remember,
ever since the 1960's (maybe even before) "Roger" was always used as
either a question or statement
depending on the context of the transmissions.

Even in the 1960's, "Roger" was commonly used as a question besides
just meaning "acknowkledged".

Both were common.

Even in the same transmissions.

On Apr 16, 11:30*am, wrote:
We have what I would call a keyclown on cb here, although he
technically isn't really doing anything illegal.

Except maybe using offensive language over the air.

And although I consider his language offensive, I also know what's
considered offensive in one area is considered
not ofensive and completely innocent in other areas.

Which is why the FCC doesn't have a list of official offensive words
not allowed to be said on the radio.

For example, a ham in Appalachia could end up in jail for the rest of
his life for saying
things that are commonly used there and completely innocent there that
northern hams take as
offensive and as admitting to committing a very serious crime.

Even though no crime was ever committed.

We also have a certain ham radio here (up north) that has indeed
committed very serious crimes but is
very smart and smart enough to have avoided getting in trouble for
comitting them.

I also consider him to be a jerk. However, a very smart jerk.

So I finally came to the conclusion that it isn't whether it's cb
radio or ham radio.

It's the kind of people you have *in your community

Or the kind of the people in the community you're talking to on the
radio.

Enough about keyclowns. Now about keydowns.

I've seen several postings by ham radio operators putting down cbers
for keydowns, saying that they are illegal.

I've never participated in one myself and never plan to. It doesn't
interest me.

I've also heard on my scanner hams mentioning for hams to participate
in keydowns. And these were hams
who had passed their cw tests over twenty years ago.

Why is it legal for hams to have keydowns and cbers not to?

Or does having a keydown mean something different in ham radio than it
does in cb?

Which reminds me. I also read a post by hams complaing about "QSL" and
"Roger" being used as
qustions.

Granted, QSL should not be used as a question in the way they were
using it, but as long as I can remember,
ever since the 1960's (maybe even before) "Roger" was always used as
either a question or statement
depending on the context of the transmissions.

Even in the 1960's, "Roger" was commonly used as a question besides
just meaning "acknowkledged".

*Both were common.

Even in the same transmissions.

Good commentary...
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