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I wish CBers would follow rules that exist concerning the use of foul
language. I like to hear and speak with CBers during my daily commute. I
can't, however, have the CB on when the kids are in the car due to the
prolific use of foul language. It's really sad how far the service has
sunk.

Oh for the heyday of the 70s when CBers were numerous and truckers were the
best drivers on the road (and, yes, I remember those days personally)!

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"an old friend" wrote in message
...
On Aug 12, 12:03 pm, "The Dude!" wrote:
I wish CBers would follow rules that exist concerning the use of foul
language. I like to hear and speak with CBers during my daily commute. I
can't, however, have the CB on when the kids are in the car due to the
prolific use of foul language. It's really sad how far the service has
sunk.

Oh for the heyday of the 70s when CBers were numerous and truckers were
the
best drivers on the road (and, yes, I remember those days personally)!

maybe you need to hang in a better part of the country

I never hear bad lang here on CB that seem reseverved for 75m and
occionanly 20 m ham

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On a recent trip, I heard foul language in Missouri, Kansas, and Colorado -
especially Colorado, near Denver. I'm sure the offenders weren't locals.
They were definitely truckers. I don't know what "part of the country" the
truckers were from.

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On Aug 12, 12:03*pm, "The Dude!" wrote:
I wish CBers would follow rules that exist concerning the use of foul
language. *I like to hear and speak with CBers during my daily commute. *I
can't, however, have the CB on when the kids are in the car due to the
prolific use of foul language. *It's really sad how far the service has
sunk.



Well for starters, while the above is true, there's also the fact that
what is considered perfectly acceptable G rated okay
sentences for kids to use in Appalachia, is considered by the rest of
the country to be X-rated words that kids should never say and no one
should ever use on the radio.

And all because the words simply have a different meaning in the
different parts of the country.

And since most people think of cb, for some reason, as connected with
Appalachia, of course you're going to hear
sentences on CB such as "that freaking lady at the store didn't give
my kids a poke" that you don't want your kids to
hear because it's X rated "foul language".

No, not there it isn't. It doesn't mean the same thing. It's not X-
rated, but perfectly acceptable G rated.

And complaining about store workers not doing that is a very valid
complaint today.

And then the "radio cops" wonder why people don't like them when the
radio cops turn them in to the fcc for saying such
innocent things over the air as "saying obscene things over the air
that are prohibited by FCC rules" and filing severe
criminal charges against them with other agencies that can land the
person in jail for the rest of their lives for a crime
they never ever committed, just because the radio cop decides the
sentence means something other than it does.

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"Bob Dobbs" wrote in message
news:48a2dde2.1766830@chupacabra...
The Dude! wrote:

On a recent trip, I heard foul language in Missouri, Kansas, and
Colorado -
especially Colorado, near Denver. I'm sure the offenders weren't locals.
They were definitely truckers. I don't know what "part of the country"
the
truckers were from.

Recent conditions on eleven meters have brought signals from many parts
of the country to and from those regions. Since you don't know what part
of the country those 'offenders' were from, how do you even know they
were truckers. Could have been some anal retentive repressed prude such
as you seem to be, expressing themselves while mommy was away with her
lover and dad was at work, leaving the radio available.

--

Operator Bob
Echo Charlie 42

LOL!!!

They were not rolling in on skip. They were local truckers calling each
other, "driver." I've used CB radios since the 70s and know what I'm
talking about. BTW, how does not liking foul language on the air waves
(which is illegal) make someone a prude. What a leap!

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wrote in message
...
On Aug 12, 12:03 pm, "The Dude!" wrote:
I wish CBers would follow rules that exist concerning the use of foul
language. I like to hear and speak with CBers during my daily commute. I
can't, however, have the CB on when the kids are in the car due to the
prolific use of foul language. It's really sad how far the service has
sunk.



Well for starters, while the above is true, there's also the fact that
what is considered perfectly acceptable G rated okay
sentences for kids to use in Appalachia, is considered by the rest of
the country to be X-rated words that kids should never say and no one
should ever use on the radio.

And all because the words simply have a different meaning in the
different parts of the country.

And since most people think of cb, for some reason, as connected with
Appalachia, of course you're going to hear
sentences on CB such as "that freaking lady at the store didn't give
my kids a poke" that you don't want your kids to
hear because it's X rated "foul language".

No, not there it isn't. It doesn't mean the same thing. It's not X-
rated, but perfectly acceptable G rated.

And complaining about store workers not doing that is a very valid
complaint today.

And then the "radio cops" wonder why people don't like them when the
radio cops turn them in to the fcc for saying such
innocent things over the air as "saying obscene things over the air
that are prohibited by FCC rules" and filing severe
criminal charges against them with other agencies that can land the
person in jail for the rest of their lives for a crime
they never ever committed, just because the radio cop decides the
sentence means something other than it does.


--------
All I'm really talking about is, "****, ****, ****, ****, cock-sucker,
mother-****er, tits." And maybe a few other words thrown in. I don't have
a problem with people using foul language in general, just not in PUBLIC
(including the PUBLIC airwaves). Inuendo that masks the meaning of a
sentence to children but is amusing to adults is fine as far as I'm
concerned.

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"Bob Dobbs" wrote in message
news:48a2528b.3474105@chupacabra...
The Dude! wrote:
BTW, how does not liking foul language on the air waves
(which is illegal) make someone a prude.

Prudishness is an overly expressed concern
for some infraction of modesty, especially spoken language.

Right. So I suppose that expecting people to not say "****" and "****" on
PUBLIC airwaves that kids can be listening to is an "overly expressed
concern??" Damn, Bob! I suppose you would defend kiddy porn, too.

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"Bob Dobbs" wrote in message
news:48a354bf.4038467@chupacabra...
The Dude! wrote:

All I'm really talking about is, "****, ****, ****, ****, cock-sucker,
mother-****er, tits." And maybe a few other words thrown in. I don't
have
a problem with people using foul language in general, just not in PUBLIC
(including the PUBLIC airwaves). Inuendo that masks the meaning of a
sentence to children but is amusing to adults is fine as far as I'm
concerned.

Maybe CB shouldn't be considered as an acceptable entertainment source
for your kids? Why should the free access nature of CB make it more
subject to moral considerations than something like Howard Stern that
you have to pay for?

Because it is a PUBLIC service. The airwaves are public. It's not a moral
concern, just one of common courtesy and decent behavior. Mostly, it's
because the free access nature of CB has restricted communications. By
using a CB radio, you are agreeing to abide by the rules. Title 47 Part
95, section 95.413 states that "to transmit obscence, indecent or profane
words, language or meaning" is prohibited. If you are using a CB and
agreeing to the rules and then violate those rules, you are showing your
lack of character (not to mention violating federal regulations).

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"Bob Dobbs" wrote in message
news:48a3a44a.1711260@chupacabra...
Fred wrote:
On Tue, 12 Aug 2008 12:00:06 -0700, Bob Dobbs
wrote:

although quite a bargain by
today's blundering Bush standards,

Try Nancy Pelosi and the Dumbocrat Congress and Senate, you ****tard!
Look no further if you want to find the answer to the energy crisis.
Now we want to elect the next Jimmy Carter ie: Obumba, to really drive
us into a recession.

You really have that anger meter in the red, Fred.

It is amazing how ignorant some people can be, yet they preach their
stupidity at any given chance.

I don't quite find you as amazing as you think yourself to be,
maybe you could see if it's possible to take your own advice
and...

Go **** yourself!

--

Operator Bob
Echo Charlie 42

I think that the terminology of the quote "Go fu*k yourself!, comes from the
following:

a father and his son were having a discussion of when the father would
procure a vehicle for the son on at a given time; whereas the son turns 16
and the father says "does your schmekel reach your tuchas"? and the son
replies "NO" and the father tells him to come back when it does. Awhile
later - a year or so - the son again approaches the father with the same
question and the father again asks the same of his son, again the answer is
"NO"! Then the son turns 18 years old and again comes to the father and
asks the same stupid question again & if the father is going to procure a
vehicle for him? Again the father ask the same stupid question and to his
surprise the son answers "YES"! And that is where the terminology comes
from, as the father says ""good then" - "GO FU*K YOURSELF""!

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All I'm really talking about is, " *And maybe a few other words thrown in. *

I know. It's just that the self-appointed radio cops really irrritate
me since they're usually guilty of far worse crimes theirselves than
what they claim the people they turn in have committed.

And the people they turn in are usually completely innocent people
caught inbetween catch-22 situations that the
self-appointed radio cops manufactures for them in the first place.

Since the self-appointed radio cops are obsessed with knowing every
single little obscure law there is, they KNOW the
laws are purposely written contradictory to each other so that the law
can charge anyone for anything anytime they
feel like it, no matter which course of the only possible actions to
take the unfortunate person decides to take.


And yet the self-appointed radio cops who have done such, usually get
away scott free from the very serious very illeal crimes they commit.

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"The Dude!" wrote in message
...

--------
All I'm really talking about is, "sh#t, ****, f*ck, c@nt, c%ck-sucker,
mother-f!cker, tits." And maybe a few other words thrown in. I don't
have
a problem with people using foul language in general, just not in PUBLIC
(including the PUBLIC airwaves). Inuendo that masks the meaning of a
sentence to children but is amusing to adults is fine as far as I'm
concerned.
If you were so concerned about the language, why did you repeat it here,
where children could read it?
I fixed it for you....................

KA6SCO Rolf

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wrote in message
...
All I'm really talking about is, " And maybe a few other words thrown in.

I know. It's just that the self-appointed radio cops really irrritate
me since they're usually guilty of far worse crimes theirselves than
what they claim the people they turn in have committed.

And the people they turn in are usually completely innocent people
caught inbetween catch-22 situations that the
self-appointed radio cops manufactures for them in the first place.

Since the self-appointed radio cops are obsessed with knowing every
single little obscure law there is, they KNOW the
laws are purposely written contradictory to each other so that the law
can charge anyone for anything anytime they
feel like it, no matter which course of the only possible actions to
take the unfortunate person decides to take.


And yet the self-appointed radio cops who have done such, usually get
away scott free from the very serious very illeal crimes they commit.

---------

Well, as for me, I've never turned anybody in. I'm not even advocating
that. I'd just like people to have some manners again and treat each other
with respect.

CB Radio Operating
 

If you were so concerned about the language, why did you repeat it here,
where children could read it?

Because it's not "in the public" here and not illegal. No one agreed not to
use foul language in order to post here. By using the CB radio frequencies,
one is impliciting agreeing to the FCC rules of use.

If I was at a public venue, such as a game at a city park, I would call a
person on the use of foul language. However, if I was in a bar & grill and
someone is at the bar drinking and swearing, I'd leave it alone. It's a
matter of appropriate places and contexts. The CB radio services in neither
the appropriate place or context. Besides, it constitutes illegal use.

It seems that common decency isn't very common any more.

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"Bob Dobbs" wrote in message
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The Dude! wrote:
I suppose you would defend kiddy porn, too.

Why must you try to sneak your inner passions into the mix?

--

Operator Bob
Echo Charlie 42

Ahhh, we've reached the point of your attacking me personally instead of
speaking to the points being discussed. YOU LOSE!

CB Radio Operating
 

Maybe you'd better drop the dime, channel cop


As stated in a previous post, I have never turned anyone in nor do I intend
to. You're missing the whole point of the post, which is trying to make
people think a little bit and perhaps treat others better - as in being more
polite and respectful of other people who want to use a public service.

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"Bob Dobbs" wrote in message
news:48ac1f95.1594062@chupacabra...
The Dude! wrote:

It seems that common decency isn't very common any more.

Your version of 'common' only exists
in the hollow echo of your own mind,
not very common at all in the real world.

Thank you for making my point. But it used to exist.

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"Bob Dobbs" wrote in message
news:48ab1f86.1579911@chupacabra...
KA6SCO wrote:
If you were so concerned about the language, why did you repeat it here,
where children could read it?

Censorship only applies to the other guy,
same as all the morality spewed from those xian leaders.

HELLO, McFly! I didn't advocate anything akin to cencorship. I was talking
about people behaving because it's the right thing to do. I never wrote of
censoring anyone. You pulled that out of your own delusions.

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"The Dude!" wrote in message
om...
If you were so concerned about the language, why did you repeat it here,
where children could read it?

Because it's not "in the public" here and not illegal. No one agreed not
to
use foul language in order to post here. By using the CB radio
frequencies,
one is impliciting agreeing to the FCC rules of use.

If I was at a public venue, such as a game at a city park, I would call a
person on the use of foul language. However, if I was in a bar & grill
and
someone is at the bar drinking and swearing, I'd leave it alone. It's a
matter of appropriate places and contexts. The CB radio services in
neither
the appropriate place or context. Besides, it constitutes illegal use.

It seems that common decency isn't very common any more.

It most certainly is "in the public" as you put it, when you post it here.
I will agree that it is not illegal to use it here or against any rules, but
you have made quite a few comments regarding "decency", to which you say it
is not on the cb bands. Yet here, you feel that "decency" doesn't apply, why
not? It should apply any where you are, even the "bar & grill". If you are
going to preach decency and complain about it, then you must practice it
across the board, not only to where "you" think it should be applied. If you
don't like what people are saying at that "Bar & Grill", go to another. If
you don't like what people are talking about at a particular park, go to a
different part of the park or leave. Saying just because it's against the
rules on cb and it's indecent, it shouldn't be said there, but perfectly ok
to swear anywhere else, as long as it's to "your" standards, that
hypocritical.
Honestly, if you were very concerned hearing that over the cb
radio, you would be equally adamant about not perpetuating it in public or
in type.

KA6SCO Rolf

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not? It should apply any where you are, even the "bar & grill". If you are
going to preach decency and complain about it, then you must practice it
across the board, not only to where "you" think it should be applied.

It's not just me that thinks it should be applied. It's a federal
regulation that makes it inappropriate on CB.

CB Radio Operating
 

"The Dude!" wrote in message
om...
not? It should apply any where you are, even the "bar & grill". If you
are
going to preach decency and complain about it, then you must practice it
across the board, not only to where "you" think it should be applied.

It's not just me that thinks it should be applied. It's a federal
regulation that makes it inappropriate on CB.

OK, you're point??? I never disagreed with you, I was talking about how you
repeated those words in type, to which was
not necessary nor was it decent or appropriate. YOU are the
one going on about how "decency" is needed on CB radio airwaves, I'll agree,
same paragraph you go off and type the very words you say are indecent to
say, you don't think that's a
little hypocritical? I was at a SF Giants game last week with
my 6 year old grandson, the people behind me were using words
that I thought were inappropriate for those surroundings (children
with in ear shot). I even recorded it on my cell phone for the ushers to
hear, they said that it wasn't "foul language", though it's content was
pretty raw, they couldn't do anything about it. So I requested to be moved
to comparable seats due to the fact these people were not taking into
account there were children with in ear shot, they moved me. Now they
weren't swearing, but I did not want my grandson hearing about how he puked
his guts out because he drank to much, or what drugs they were taking to get
high.
My whole point is, you are going off on how people swear on
the CB radio, it's indecent and against the rules, but yet you break that
decency rule right away by putting it into type.

If you are going to complain about decency, you must practice
it too.

KA6SCO Rolf

CB Radio Operating
 

Right. So I suppose that expecting people to not say "****" and "****" on
PUBLIC airwaves that kids can be listening to is an "overly expressed
concern??" Damn, Bob! I suppose you would defend kiddy porn, too.

Hey! I can't have the Computer on when the kids are in the room
due to the prolific use of foul language. It's really sad how far the
news service has sunk.

CB Radio Operating
 

My whole point is, you are going off on how people swear on
the CB radio, it's indecent and against the rules, but yet you break that
decency rule right away by putting it into type.

There is no decency rule against putting it into type. There is a clear
federal regulation against using it on the CB.

CB Radio Operating
 

"KA6SCO" wrote in message
...

"The Dude!" wrote in message
om...
not? It should apply any where you are, even the "bar & grill". If you
are
going to preach decency and complain about it, then you must practice
it
across the board, not only to where "you" think it should be applied.

It's not just me that thinks it should be applied. It's a federal
regulation that makes it inappropriate on CB.

OK, you're point??? I never disagreed with you, I was talking about how
you
repeated those words in type, to which was
not necessary nor was it decent or appropriate. YOU are the
one going on about how "decency" is needed on CB radio airwaves, I'll
agree,
same paragraph you go off and type the very words you say are indecent to
say, you don't think that's a
little hypocritical? I was at a SF Giants game last week with
my 6 year old grandson, the people behind me were using words
that I thought were inappropriate for those surroundings (children
with in ear shot). I even recorded it on my cell phone for the ushers to
hear, they said that it wasn't "foul language", though it's content was
pretty raw, they couldn't do anything about it. So I requested to be moved
to comparable seats due to the fact these people were not taking into
account there were children with in ear shot, they moved me. Now they
weren't swearing, but I did not want my grandson hearing about how he
puked
his guts out because he drank to much, or what drugs they were taking to
get
high.
My whole point is, you are going off on how people swear on
the CB radio, it's indecent and against the rules, but yet you break that
decency rule right away by putting it into type.

If you are going to complain about decency, you must practice
it too.

KA6SCO Rolf

BTW, I do get your point; and you're probably right.

CB Radio Operating
 

On Aug 13, 1:54*pm, Bob Dobbs wrote:
The Dude! wrote:
If you are using a CB and
agreeing to the rules

Who's agreeing to anything?

and then violate those rules, you are showing your
lack of character (not to mention violating federal regulations).

Maybe you'd better drop the dime, channel cop

--

Operator Bob
Echo Charlie 42

Well, I agree with the original poster that foul language doesn't
belong on the CB. However, the original poster seems to
not grasp the concept that what is considered foul language in his
part of the country isn't necessarilly considered
foul language in other parts of the country.

Such as in the original poster's part of the country, wherever that
is, "tits" is considered foul language the same as
F.U. and other words he mentioned, while in my part of the country,
"tits" was never considered a foul or obscene
word like F.U. and other words the original poster mentioned.

While sentences like "She gave me a poke" is considered X-rated foul
language that kids should never hear, in my
part of the country, the exact same sentence is considered perfectly
acceptable G-rated language that is okay for
even little kids to hear and say, in Appalachia.

It means something different there than it does hear.

CB is meant for mobile operation. And for some reason seems to be
associated with Appalachia, so when a self-
appointed radio cop hears someone from Appalachia say that while
driving elsewhere, the self-appointed radio cop
just assumes that the person said X-rated material that doesn't belong
on the public airwaves and turns him in.

Even though what was said was really G-rated material that does belong
on the CB.


When what's perfectly acceptable G-rated material in one part of the
country is non-acceptable X-rated material in another
part of the country, and the rmobile adio operator is of course used
to speaking the way people in his own part of the
country do.

One of the funniest things I seen, a long time ago, was a CB website
written by a ham radio operator, complaining about CB'ers using CB-
lingo to disguse the meaning of words instead of using plain English
like the FCC rules require.

And he gave examples. (and he really believed what he wrote)

And the examples were all what is plain English (in Appalachia) just
as the FCC rules require.

Except for one example he gave which was plain English all over the
country while I was growing up and before that.

I don't know wherever he got the notion that "nose" was secret CB-
lingo for the front of a vehicle.

When I was growing up and before that, "nose" to the mean the front of
a vehicle was common plain English all over
the country. The only vehicle I never heard it used for was boats,
which havve their own terminology.

As for the other examples he gave, those type of hams need to learn
that

"Drawers" is NOT secret CB-lingo to disguise the meaning of
"underwear". It IS plain English.

"Britches" is NOT secret CB-lingo to disguise the meaning of "pants"
It IS plain English

"Pedal to the metal" IS not secret CB lingo. It IS plain English.

"Booger" is NOT secret CB lingo to disguise the meaning of "ghosts".
It IS plain English.

"Poke: is NOT secret CB lingo to disguise the meaning of "bag" or
"sack". It IS plain English.

"Roadhouse" is NOT secret CB lingo to disguise the meaning of "bar" so
that the smokies don't know the CB'ers and truckers are going to a bar
to get drunk. It IS plain English.

CB Radio Operating
 

Your sole objective in posting here seems to be of a trolling nature,

I don't think The Dude is a troll, but Dude, answer this

Under Federal law, a state can NOT make food from another state
illegal, and if the person with the
food is travelling interstate, it falls under Federal law and not
state law.

yet you on a family vacation can go to a regular grocery store in
Appalachia, buy cans of food there, and when you get
into California, if a California cop catches you with those cans of
food you bought in Appalachia, you are now in very
very very serious legal trouble since California made a law declaring
that Appalachian food is illegal drugs, which
states can prohibit and make illegal under state law since Federal law
also prohibits and makes illegal drugs illegal.

You are now in very very very serious legal trouble for using illegal
drugs, and being a drug dealer, and being a drug
dealer who gave minors (your kids) illegal drugs. And contributing to
the delinquency of minors.

And now the Feds can arrest you for using illegal drugs since
California police records "prove" you did.

Did you break the law or not?

And heaven help the poor Appalachian family who actually eats some of
those cans of food in the next state right
before they get into California and then a California cop also gets
them on "traces of illegal drugs were found in
their blood".

Did that family break the law or not?

remember, under Federal law, states are NOT allowed to make food from
other states illegal.

But under Federal law, states ARE allowed to arrest people for using,
distributing, and even simply just having illegal
drugs.

CB Radio Operating
 

Such as in the original poster's part of the country, wherever that
is, "tits" is considered foul language the same as
F.U. and other words he mentioned, while in my part of the country,
"tits" was never considered a foul or obscene
word like F.U. and other words the original poster mentioned.

The words were an allusion to George Carlin's famouse, "seven words you can
never say on television" routine. Since it was all over the news that he
died recently, I figured most people would have gotten the reference.

CB Radio Operating
 

The flatlands? Or the Appalachian hills?

California, the land of fruits and nuts? Or the rest of the states?


Liberal California hates conservative Appalachia so much that
California banned bringing normal food from Appalachia
into California. You can get arrested, ticketed, fine, and thrown in
jail for doing so.

-------------------

You make a lot of references to Appalachia which seem to indicate that you
sense persecution a lot for being from there. I grew up in and currently
live in the Ozarks, which has even more of a hillbilly reputation than
Appalachia. I call Kalifornia the granola state - nuts, fruits, and flakes.

Back to the original post: there are certain words that are considered foul
language throughout the country. I wasn't referring to inuendo that can be
interpreted by some as foul. I was referring to obvious foul language that
would be considered foul in the entire country. You know, the words you
can't say on prime time TV. . .

CB Radio Operating
 

OK, I'll play,
just who determines 'the right thing to do'
and if it isn't up to your standards, then what,
bitch and moan on usenet?

Yep! It started a conversation that is very active and fruitful, didn't it?
After all, dialog is what usenet is all about, nes pas!

CB Radio Operating
 

wrote in message
...
Your sole objective in posting here seems to be of a trolling nature,

I don't think The Dude is a troll, but Dude, answer this

Under Federal law, a state can NOT make food from another state
illegal, and if the person with the
food is travelling interstate, it falls under Federal law and not
state law.

Can you site that federal law. I've never heard of it.

yet you on a family vacation can go to a regular grocery store in
Appalachia, buy cans of food there, and when you get
into California, if a California cop catches you with those cans of
food you bought in Appalachia, you are now in very
very very serious legal trouble since California made a law declaring
that Appalachian food is illegal drugs, which
states can prohibit and make illegal under state law since Federal law
also prohibits and makes illegal drugs illegal.

Are you sure? I've never heard of food being classified as illegal drugs by
a state. I know California will dissallow food being brought into the state
due to bugs that cause crop blights. They just tell you you can't bring it
in. They don't charge you with a crime. I know this from personal
experience.


You are now in very very very serious legal trouble for using illegal
drugs, and being a drug dealer, and being a drug
dealer who gave minors (your kids) illegal drugs. And contributing to
the delinquency of minors.

And now the Feds can arrest you for using illegal drugs since
California police records "prove" you did.
Did you break the law or not?


Not true. The feds can only arrest and charge you under specific federal
laws that they must site when charging you. California can make milk
illegal and classify it as a narcotic. But unless there is a federal law
that also classifies it as a narcotic, the feds can't charge you with a
crime. It would be a state matter.

And heaven help the poor Appalachian family who actually eats some of
those cans of food in the next state right
before they get into California and then a California cop also gets
them on "traces of illegal drugs were found in
their blood".

Did that family break the law or not?

No.


remember, under Federal law, states are NOT allowed to make food from
other states illegal.

But under Federal law, states ARE allowed to arrest people for using,
distributing, and even simply just having illegal
drugs.

That's not really accurate, either. State laws are what allows a state to
arrest someone. A state cannot charge someone under a federal law just as a
federal prosecutor can't charge someone under a state law. It's a little
thing called jurisdiction. A state can only charge a person for having or
distributing drugs under a state law. The federal laws against possession
are only enforceable on federal property where the federal government has
"exclusive federal jurisdiction." I know this from my training in federal
law enforcement. This is only given by a state legislature and approved by
the Attorney General except in territories and on reservations where no
state has authority.

Sorry. Your argument sounds plausible; but the basic premise is inaccurate.

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The words were an allusion to George Carlin's famouse, "seven words you can
never say on television" routine. *Since it was all over the news that he
died recently, I figured most people would have gotten the reference.


I didn't know he died. I don't watch much tv anymore or listen to the
broadcast
radio. And my isp's newslinks didn't mention it.

Why watch something you can't follow or hear what's going on?

Analog cable tv keeps breaking up into unwatchable unlistenable
blocks,
since the cable company picks everything up digitally now and
retransmits it
over the analog.

Other people at my house thought that effect is caused by poor cable
wiring in
our house and can be fixed by us replacing the cable with new.

Well, that won't and doesn't work. Analog cable doesn't break up into
blocks even with a poor signal.

So since it is, the problem is obvious (to me) on the cable company's
end.

They just can't pick up a watchable digital signal around here even
with their
very expensive antennas and equipment.

Other people with much better antennas than we ever had can't even
pick up
digital tv over the air from here. It keeps breaking up into blocks
and is totally
unlistenable when it does so.

So in about six months, no one around here will have any watchable tv
at all.

Satellite won't work from here either. Way too many trees for that.

So it's the end of tv period, in about six months.

Which will probably cause a huge backlash by the public.

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Springfield is home to the Simpsons isn't it?

I like to think so; but would get attacked by people from Springfield's all
over the nation if I claimed to work in THE Springfield.

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Are you sure? *I've never heard of food being classified as illegal drugs by
a state.

California is the ONLY state in the entire U.S. that does it.

Go to a regular grocery store in Appalachia, buy some cans of "poke
salat"
or "poke salad" and just try bringing it into California, making sure
that a
bunch of California cops see you with it and see how long it takes
before you end up in the poke. (pun intended).

Did that family break the law or not?

No.

While I agree they didn't, California disagrees.

Just like someone in a state where a blood alcohol content not
considered
drunk in that state drinks legal in that state then crosses over into
the next
state where that level of blood alcohol content is considered drunk
and over
the legal limit even thoug he never drank any alcohol in that latter
state.

He still legally gets arrested for DUI (driving under the influence
of alcohol)

In the same way, California can legally arrest someone for driving
under the
influence of illegal drugs )



remember, under Federal law, states are NOT allowed to make food from
other states illegal.

s. *A state cannot charge someone under a federal law just as a
federal prosecutor can't charge someone under a state law. *It's a little
thing called jurisdiction.

Interesting. I recently read claims that since the FCC no longer
investigates
complaints of ham radio interference that all complaints about ham
radios
interfering with someone automatically fall under local police
jurisdiction.

That is separate from and in addition to the law giving local police
the authority
to regulate CB radio.


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*A. *The federal laws against possession
are only enforceable on federal property where the federal government has
"exclusive federal jurisdiction." *I

Now that can't be correct because if it is correct, then the FCC laws
against
posession (of 10 metermateur radios and certain FCC-approved CB radios
and
10 meter power amplifiers) are only enforcable on federal property
where the
federal government has exclusive federal jurisdiction and not
enforcable on
non-federal government property like Pilot truckstop stores or
private homes
and the FCC is committing a very serious crime by doing so.

I'm not talking about using them illegally. I'm talking about the
mere posession
of them. Since such devices could be and were used legally (or so
they
thought) by some people before the FCC declared that they were always
illegal
even back then.

And the FCC rule against operating certain types of FCC-approved CB
radios
ON the legal 40 CB channels makes the majority of , if not all of the
CB
radios sold from the mid 70's to the present day against the law to
use on
the legal 40 CB channels.!!!!

They tried moving it up to the more localized UHF band (frs) but John
Wilkerson did his best to make sure the opposite happened. Much to
the
delight of many 11 meter CB operators who don't want to move off the
11 meter band.

11 meter CB is here to stay. I hope. Because most of us poor people
can't
afford a bunch of new radios.

And yet the radio cops will turn in someone who is using a early to
mid 70's
FCC-approved Mr. Microphone for "illegally broadcastng with 1 watt of
power on
the FM broadcast band".

Well, from what I learned in public school, by law the FCC is supposed
to grandfather those devices.

However, that's not what's been happening lately from FCC notices I
read on
the internet.

The oposite seems to be happening and that they're fining anyone
using
any device over the current limits even if that device was made years
ago.

Some peole can't afford a new Mr. Microphone. Or a new CB.

And even some that can, see buying a new one as wasteful. Especially
if their
old one still works as well as it ever did.

Since current FCC rules prohibt using the majority of, if not all of,
the FCC-approved CB radios sold since the mid 1970's to the current
day on the regular legal 40 CB channels, look out!!!!

Because they've really been enforcing it lately, thanks to some of
the
self-appointed radio cops.

The self-appointed radio cops messed up MURS, and CB, and ham radio.

But even when pointed out to them how they messed it up, they still
couldn't
see the forest for the trees until it came back to bite them in the
butt.

And now the self-appointed radio cops are complaining about the very
rules
that they theirselves wanted to force into existence and that they
theirselves did get forced into existence.

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Maybe you could stroll through the hallways
of whatever school they go to,
and audit some of the language they get there,
they do attend school, don't they?

They do attend school; and the principal does a very good job of monitoring
the students' behavior. It's a small school with about 20-25 kids in each
grade. That's why I live near a very small town.

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"Fred" wrote in message
...
On Fri, 15 Aug 2008 22:24:34 -0700, Bob Dobbs
wrote:

Fred wrote:
Does
it bother you to be wrong?

I guess I'll just have to wait and see.
Bluegrass Bitch

It is so priceless! Your ignorance is the greatest toy I could ever
ask for; I am blessed!

Yeah, you are right, I am from Kentucky, LMAO! Well, I rode through
there on Greyhound once. Does that count?


Why do you ride dogs? Couldn't afford a horse?

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On Aug 14, 7:58*am, "The Dude!" wrote:
The flatlands? Or the Appalachian hills?

California, the land of fruits and nuts? *Or the rest of the states?

Liberal California hates conservative Appalachia so much that
California banned bringing normal food from Appalachia
into California. You can get arrested, ticketed, fine, and thrown in
jail for doing so.

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You make a lot of references to Appalachia which seem to indicate that you
sense persecution a lot for being from there. *I grew up in and currently
live in the Ozarks, which has even more of a hillbilly reputation than
Appalachia. *I call Kalifornia the granola state - nuts, fruits, and flakes.

Back to the original post: *there are certain words that are considered foul
language throughout the country. *I wasn't referring to inuendo that can be
interpreted by some as foul. *I was referring to obvious foul language that
would be considered foul in the entire country. *You know, the words you
can't say on prime time TV. . .

Back to the original post: there are certain words that are
considered foul
language throughout the country. I wasn't referring to inuendo that
can be
interpreted by some as foul. I was referring to obvious foul language
that
would

ah, but that's just it. While I agree with you and agree the F word
shouldn't be said on public airwaves, in my part of
the country, the F word was said several times on prime time tv years
before cable tv was even available to anyone here.

It was on regular free over the air tv. And in prime time. And at
times kids could be watching. 7 PM to 11 PM
or maybe it was 6 PM to 12 mdnight.

And the FCC never fined them for it.

"community standards"

This was as far back as 1981.





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On Aug 12, 12:03*pm, "The Dude!" wrote:
I wish CBers would follow rules that exist concerning the use of foul
language. *I like to hear and speak with CBers during my daily commute. *I
can't, however, have the CB on when the kids are in the car due to the
prolific use of foul language. *It's really sad how far the service has
sunk.

Oh for the heyday of the 70s when CBers were numerous and truckers were the
best drivers on the road (and, yes, I remember those days personally)!

Just to clear up my previous post, the F word was definitely said
several times as early as the 7 PM hour on free
prime time tv here, and continued on into the other hours until at
least 11 pm.