"Telstar Electronics" wrote:
On Dec 6, 3:26 am, Scott in Baltimore wrote:
SoundZone is a reality!... and prototypes are being field tested at
this time.

I guess I only asked for name suggestions... but never said what it
was. Good question.

You asked people to name a product, without telling them what it was?

See
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...m=260320276884
for some preliminary information.


Are the competitors not well established companies with many years of
experience
in designing and building such products and an established route to
market?
http://www.siemens-hearing.com/
http://www.bellhowell.com/

Bell Howell Sonic Earz

http://www.thpsales.com/store/viewIt...&campaign=BH_2
http://www.asseenontvguys.com/index....PROD&ProdID=67

http://www.asontv.com/electronics-an...onic-earz.html

Bell+Howell® Silver Sonic XL, $19.99
http://health-products.drleonards.co...Sonic-XL/13516
..cfm

Listen Up Personal Sound Amplifier, Price: $14.94

http://www.asontv.com/electronics-an...amplifier.html

Then there are ones that fit in the ear, some designed to look like
phone
head-sets rather than hearing aids.
18 GBP delivered to USA.

http://cgi.ebay.com.my/Super-Mini-Ea...iewItemQQitemZ
230304012679#ebayphotohosting
Same product, $10.04:

http://www.edirectory.co.uk/pf/880/m...ew/pid/8676152

Magni EarT $34.99

http://www.mileskimball.com/MilesKim...sonal+Care&SCI
D=Health+Care&ProductID=0000089983&SiteNum=0&Sourc eCode=10508000007&Affid=1

The Stealth S.S.AT, $29.99

http://health-products.drleonards.co...-S-A/48557.cfm


When many products fit in the ear and work out cheaper than your
product,
I just don't see how the SoundZone can hope to get a foot in the market.
So what sets this product aside from existing devices, apart from the
trouble
I will have getting a 9v battery in my ear?


Regards,
Peter.

I will have trouble getting a 9v battery in my ear?
Regards,
Peter.

Don't worry Peter... I help you... lol

"Telstar Electronics" spammed...
Again, thanks to all here who offered their excellent suggestions for
a product name.

Have you not already thanked everyone on this group, earlier this
year? And was you not asked back then, why you are thanking us
when you never asked this group for a name?

As you appear to have forgotten to tell us, exactly what is this new
product? What does it do, why should I bother following your link?

SoundZone is a reality!...

Oh, that explains it... a reality. I am sure that we all want a reality
in our CB radios.

http://www.telstar-electronics.com/soundzone.htm

Why bother creating a Web page for your "reality", then leave out
important information... like WTF it is?

If your intention was to build up excitement, keeping people begging
for the next installment of the saga (as done on TV advertising), then
you have lost the plot.
There is no excitement in a couple of photos of PCBs. The response
is, "yeah, so what?" I see no reason to keep going back to that page
in the hope that you will - one day - decide to tell us what it is.


BTW: Your combination of text, background color and font weight
makes it hard to read (at best). Some text is barely visible and totally
unreadable (like the line below the "Telstar" banner).
The fact that browsers have "accessibility" options is no excuse for poor
design, where the "Webmaster" has totally ignored the way the human
eye works.
If I set my browser to ignore your poor choice of colors, fonts, etc. then
it ignores them for all Websites. Why should people set their browser to
make all sites look crap, when it is far easier to avoid crap sites?


I know, I know...
"Thank you for your interest..."
But it would help if you could at least appear to be interested in the
comments of potential customers and site visitors, rather than appearing
totally arrogant.
After all, if you cannot give a flying poo about site visitors before they
buy a product, they have no hope of "support" once you have their
money.


Regards,
Peter.

On Dec 7, 5:32*am, "Peter" wrote:
"Telstar Electronics" spammed...

Again, thanks to all here who offered their excellent suggestions for
a product name.

Have you not already thanked everyone on this group, earlier this
year? *And was you not asked back then, why you are thanking us
when you never asked this group for a name?

As you appear to have forgotten to tell us, exactly what is this new
product? *What does it do, why should I bother following your link?


just good marketing on his part why does that **** you off so?

"an_old_fart" whimpered...

just good marketing on his part

Rubbish.
Where did you learn about business and marketing, back of a cornflake
box?

Brian is far from being the only person selling that type of product,
the
market is already saturated with cheaper and better products. If the
audience don't get the message, then it is only Brian who will lose out.

If people cannot see a good reason to follow a link, then they will not
follow it. You think it's just a link, one click, right?
But how many links does a serious surfer see each day? They cannot
follow them all, they go for those that look like they will interest
them.
Also, links in newsgroups are not always what they may seem. Not
all links in this group have been CB related or fit for public viewing.

What made Brian's post worse was that those who did follow the link
were still not informed what the product was.
I was not the only person who asked, but the more important question
is the number who did not bother asking... because they simply gave
up and may never follow a Telstar link again.


Another issue is that of thanking the wrong people, and thanking them
twice. It makes the sender look absent minded, not fully in control
and lacking organization. That point is covered in basic business
studies, as are advertising methods.

Marketing is more than just spamming newsgroups or advertising. It
goes much deeper, and bad marketing can be worse than none at all.

I suggest that you take a look at some media releases of REAL
businesses.
You know, those who do not claim to be a "hobby" whenever it suits them
and who actually make a nett profit above the minimum wage.


If Brian was using "good marketing", he would not still be struggling to
sell
ONE product. After all these years, he should at least be living off
the profit
(look at his figures) and possibly paying other people to work for him.


why does that **** you off so?

If that were so, he would be in my killfile along with so many trolls on
the group who only come here to abuse people.
What I don't get is why you feel the need to speak up for Brian, do
you represent him? Are the two of you... errr... "partners"?


It was not "good marketing", it was a lie. The proof came when, after
posting that message suggesting that he welcomed feedback, he
actually got real genuine feedback.
He started wailing, moaning, swinging his handbag and hurling personal
insults. Then you wade in, making it look like he has or needs some
"partner" to help him insult and abuse people.

If you think that showing total contempt for potential customers, site
visitors, media, etc. is "good marketing", then you have lost touch
with reality.


Regards,
Peter.

Peter wrote:
"an_old_fart" whimpered...

just good marketing on his part


Rubbish.
Where did you learn about business and marketing, back of a cornflake
box?

Brian is far from being the only person selling that type of product,
the
market is already saturated with cheaper and better products. If the
audience don't get the message, then it is only Brian who will lose out.

If people cannot see a good reason to follow a link, then they will not
follow it. You think it's just a link, one click, right?
But how many links does a serious surfer see each day? They cannot
follow them all, they go for those that look like they will interest
them.
Also, links in newsgroups are not always what they may seem. Not
all links in this group have been CB related or fit for public viewing.

What made Brian's post worse was that those who did follow the link
were still not informed what the product was.
I was not the only person who asked, but the more important question
is the number who did not bother asking... because they simply gave
up and may never follow a Telstar link again.


Another issue is that of thanking the wrong people, and thanking them
twice. It makes the sender look absent minded, not fully in control
and lacking organization. That point is covered in basic business
studies, as are advertising methods.

Marketing is more than just spamming newsgroups or advertising. It
goes much deeper, and bad marketing can be worse than none at all.

I suggest that you take a look at some media releases of REAL
businesses.
You know, those who do not claim to be a "hobby" whenever it suits them
and who actually make a nett profit above the minimum wage.


If Brian was using "good marketing", he would not still be struggling to
sell
ONE product. After all these years, he should at least be living off
the profit
(look at his figures) and possibly paying other people to work for him.



why does that **** you off so?


If that were so, he would be in my killfile along with so many trolls on
the group who only come here to abuse people.
What I don't get is why you feel the need to speak up for Brian, do
you represent him? Are the two of you... errr... "partners"?


It was not "good marketing", it was a lie. The proof came when, after
posting that message suggesting that he welcomed feedback, he
actually got real genuine feedback.
He started wailing, moaning, swinging his handbag and hurling personal
insults. Then you wade in, making it look like he has or needs some
"partner" to help him insult and abuse people.

If you think that showing total contempt for potential customers, site
visitors, media, etc. is "good marketing", then you have lost touch
with reality.


Regards,
Peter.

Good post Peter. I wonder if any of his kit has been type accepted by
any legal authority.

BTW: *Your combination of text, background color and font weight
makes it hard to read (at best). *Some text is barely visible and totally
unreadable (like the line below the "Telstar" banner).
The fact that browsers have "accessibility" options is no excuse for poor
design, where the "Webmaster" has totally ignored the way the human
eye works.
If I set my browser to ignore your poor choice of colors, fonts, etc. then
it ignores them for all Websites. *Why should people set their browser to
make all sites look crap, when it is far easier to avoid crap sites?
Peter.

Peter, you need to pry that old wallet open and get yourself a decent
monitor.
After all... what can you expect fom a 19" CRT that has had
convergence problems since 1992. You got your money's worth... quit
milking it!

"Telstar Electronics" wrote...

Peter, you need to pry that old wallet open and get yourself a decent
monitor.
After all... what can you expect fom a 19" CRT that has had
convergence problems since 1992. You got your money's worth... quit
milking it!

Brian, you need to read up on Web accessibility standards, the
human eye and color.
I'll get you started...
http://www.w3.org/TR/WAI-WEBCONTENT/
http://www.w3.org/TR/WAI-WEBCONTENT/#gl-color
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rod_cell
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cone_cell
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Color_blindness
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Night_blindness

10 Million American men (7%) suffer from color blindness:
http://www.hhmi.org/senses/b130.html
That is why browsers have "accessibility" settings, to compensate for
poor Web design which does not consider these people.

Your new product appears to be aimed at people with poor hearing. As
these may be older people, chances are that their sight will not be
perfect.
Yet you really don't seem to care.



I have yet to see a monitor with convergence problems, and it was not a
common problem on old TVs unless some idiot had been inside it. Old
CRTs are more likely to suffer from low emission.
Low emission can be cured, I have done it many times... with brilliant
results
from a home-built rejuvenator.

We have several systems with a range of browsers, operating systems,
monitors, etc. I have checked the systems I use, and asked others their
thoughts on color. Dark backgrounds can be a real issue, much worse
on some laptops, and one particular hate was red on black background.

At best, with a great CRT monitor, the line below your banner is a
struggle. With some monitors, it is barely visible and certainly
unreadable.
It is a fact that certain types of monitor, as used in modern computers,
do not display colors and contrast as well as others.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Computer_monitor
Not everyone has the system you have, the Internet was intended to
allow for different systems and browsers.

It's bad enough that some Webmasters think they can tell visitors what
browser they should use... but you go as far as telling them to go get a
monitor to suit your site design ideas?


I was just telling you about an issue with accessibility and possibly
compatibility. What you do with that information is up to you.

I wish you luck with the new product, you'll sure need luck with the
number of smaller and cheaper products of that type already on the
market... and the way you respond to feedback.


Regards,
Peter.