"Frank Gilliland" wrote in message
...

Is that why you are arguing with me now? Was the purpose of your original
post
in this thread to discuss "CB radio information"? Practice what you
preach.

I am just stating the facts, not arguing.


Of course this information can't be supressed. But it -can- be evaluated
for
it's technical validity. For example, "swang" is a new word for an old
concept:
DSBRC (Double-SideBand Reduced Carrier), a mode given up over half a
century ago
because it causes more problems than it solves. So when a CB newbie
listens to
some dummy talking about 'bird-watts', don't you think he would like to
know the
truth of the matter? Of course he would, and that's all I'm doing. It's
the
"golden-screwdriver" techs that spread this 'information', and instead of
supressing it, I just tell what the 'information' really means so the CBer
can
make an informed decision as to whether or not to trash his radio.

Whether you like it or not, do you suppose that you are arguing about things
that you and the so-called "golden crewdrivers" agree upon? Sometimes I
have to re-read the posts and find out that both of you folks are saying the
exact same thing, just in a different way. Maybe some people don't have the
technical "tongue" like you do, but chastizing such people only degrades
your validity. Do you like getting picked on?


I think you are taking the word "goals" to the extreme --

That's what you wrote and I just merely responded to your post.


I merely meant that if
a person wants more from radio than what the CB has to offer then he has
three
choices: 1) Memorize the question pool and get a license; 2) Operate
illegally;
or 3) Find another hobby. And no, the information isn't going away, but as
I
said before, that 'information' is incomplete. If the CBer knows all the
facts
then he can make a decision that's better for both him and the band.

True.


Since you brought it up, speeding isn't a federal offense and doesn't
carry a
maximum fine of $17,000. That may scare some, while it may be nothing more
than
a financial risk to others. But it's DEFINITELY something that everyone
should
know BEFORE they make that decision.

But on the contrary, Frank. Speeding can be a cause of many felonious
behaviors. Like radio, like speeding. It is the same thing. Owning a
radio is not a federal offense. Operating it "illegally" is. Speeding is
not a federal offense. Speeding and killing someone is. Know what I mean?


There have been MANY technical discussions here that haven't become a
thread
about legalities. But you are right, many technical discussions do end up
about
legalities. Why? I'll tell you...

Just for the sake of argument, just how technical can CB get? I mean, the
CB is
a radio service that was intended to have minimal technical requirements,
which
is why there is no license (and when a license was required in the past it
required no test of technical competence). Just hook up the power, run the
antenna, plug in the mic and you're working (and to think that some people
make
that their hobby...LOL!). Yet most technical discussions seem to be about
swang,
bird-watts, keydowns, amps, flame-throwing antennas and being as loud as
possible. IOW, most of the technical topics here focus around -illegal-
CB, and
that's why legal issues come up so often.

What's wrong with that? Talking about such subjects is not illegal. Even
if -encourages- such illegal activities, let them suffer the consequences.
Not rub it in...


Slightly OT, why does everything here have to be about technical topics?
How
about making a hobby of COMMUNICATING on the CB? About the only posts made
in
this newsgroup even remotely close to -that- topic are Twisty's DX
reports.

But you and your compadres BASH him for it.


Doesn't anybody think about what's possible with CB radio? Like, how about
setting up CB broadcasts for Amber Alerts, or organizing networks for
public
events? When was the last time you saw any mention of the REACT program in
this
newsgroup? :

Have you done such a thing? You may say you do or don't, but how do I know.
It's one thing to talk about starting such broadcasts and another about
actually doing it.


end rant

Thanks...


If I bother you that much then maybe you should take a break from the
newsgroups
for a while.

It was a joke, Franklin. A little humor didn't hurt nobody.


Your choice to believe that CB is in a state of anarchy is nothing but a
precursor to that "if you can't beat 'em, join 'em" excuse I mentioned
before.

No. It is a trend. "...beat 'em, join 'em" had nothing to do with what
was, did, is and will go on. And soon, like the CB boom of the '70's, it
will fade away and slowly creep back up again. That's the way it is and
that's the truth.


WHOA there butthole, where did I say anything about being a "baby-killer"?
You
need to take a step back (and probably a Valium).

Like you, like me... I just posted my reaction to your post. I wish I could
get ahold of some Valium right now... my back is killing me.


If you are so stupid that you can't handle the unbelievably simple
requirements
to get a license and operate legally, then could give a **** about your
"hobby".

NOW I'M STUPID... when does it stop, Frank? You're the stupid one that
frequents this NG day in and day out, EVERYday for the past (3) years since
my last post. I've read and you're still here. And you just don't get the
notion that you are the subject of mockery by everyone here (except your AKC
cheering section). And you're calling me stupid? I work on my Harley
instead of messing with these cats in here that do not get the message you
and the AKC is trying to promote.


I don't suppose you have ever heard of the Anasazi....

That was then... this is now. You mean to tell me you are going to be a
cultural influence and change things over night? How about something more
previous in history... have you ever heard of "BUCKWHEAT" ?snicker


RASTA, the Keyclown Psychic.

No. Just a RASTA... we tell the truth.


have a good day.

I usually do.

When you do have a nice day, you usually shoot that **** down by coming here
and getting your blood-pressure up. What is this about you drinking now?

But really, have a good one.

Chim Bubba wrote:
Me too! Always have. That is the main reason for coming here but as
was mentioned by others before. The crap that goes on in this group
NEVER and I mean NEVER even affects the real guy on the cb.

So what's your problem? Why even waste your energy of coming in here
and complaining about it? It's been going on for so long, nothing's
ever gonna change it.You can't accomplish anything with whining.It's a
losing battle. It's like trying to drain the ocean with a teacup.You
might as well just give up.What you're doing is useless.
(sarcasm/irony intentional)

I mean
forget about the diehard guys as was said they dont even know this
place exists and for the ones that do and by the small chance even
visit here, they still get on their big linears and talk skip or
compete as they choose! It affects nothing in the real world but yes
it may have bothered some who are on this group. In reality for the
guy that at this very moment is using a 16 pill linear talking skip
and enjoying his setup, doesn't give a rat's ass that there are some
old geeky folk on some newsgroup somewhere that dont like what he is
doing. I mean even if I went and told him!

I think Dave Hall said it best:

"There are many people out there that are "on the fence" with regard
to whether or not to follow the law or not. Those are the people that
will hopefully read what is discussed here and decide that it might
not be a good idea to break the law. THOSE are the people that we're
trying to reach. Those that are hopelessly incorrigable will continue
their anti-social ways until the law finally catches up with them. Of
course you can't blame those of us that understand the purpose of law,
from assisting the people entrusted with enforcing the law, by
gathering evidence for them. It's called looking after our best
interests."

-Aaron-

(Aaron H. Voobner) wrote in message . com...
Chim Bubba wrote:
Me too! Always have. That is the main reason for coming here but as
was mentioned by others before. The crap that goes on in this group
NEVER and I mean NEVER even affects the real guy on the cb.

So what's your problem? Why even waste your energy of coming in here
and complaining about it? It's been going on for so long, nothing's
ever gonna change it.You can't accomplish anything with whining.It's a
losing battle. It's like trying to drain the ocean with a teacup.You
might as well just give up.What you're doing is useless.
(sarcasm/irony intentional)

That's actually the most reasonable and logical thing I've ever seen
you post, Aanal Aaron. Too bad you're trying to impose it on others,
instead of applying it to yourself.

You, Frankie-boy, Georgie-girl, and others have attempted to control
other people thru trolling for quite some time. It hasn't worked, it
doesn't work, it won't work. If FCC enforcement hasn't worked, what
makes you believe that your lame trolling will?

You are quite correct: Ain't nothing gonna change it. All you can do
is control yourself, something you're really poor at. That applies to
you, Aanal Aaron, to Frankie-boy, to Georgie-girl, and the others. So
why bother taking up space here to complain about it?

CBers are aware of the Rules, and a few of them make a decision to
violate them. You are not an FCC operative (if you are, what's your
badge number?), nor are any of the other trolls. Hell, Frankie-boy
isn't a ham or a "commercial broadcast engineer" as he has claimed.
He's lucky if he's even a tech.

Thus, you might as well give it up. The best you can do is operate
your CB legally and try to set an example. Nothing else is going to do
anything but raise your blood pressure.

Thansk for saying dat'.
These purest guardians and their poor subjects need to
be sent packin'.

I will still key when I want to and talk where ever I can get to.
Who cares.........

The2x4


"RASTA" wrote in message
. ..
For the amount of years I've spent here on this NG, I have yet to see
(hear)
the bandwidth cleaned up. More truckers are getting hired, more
neighborhood idiots are still throwing "10-95's" while you're
chit-chatting,
newer people are skip talking... what good is arguing here gonna do for
cleaning up the band?

Should I answer that?

Don't need to.

This NG is saved for open conversation about CB radio. Not random
bashing.
Everybody wants to know how to mod a radio. Everybody wants to know where
to purchase an amplifier. Everybody wants to know antenna efficiency and
coax lengths. Is this breaking the law? NO! Discussing CB radio subject
matter doesn't constitute the individual breaking any laws.

Know what the funny thing is? I only know of "1" (one) person that was on
this NG that got turned in to the FCC. The rest is still keying down.
Imagine that! With the rants of Leland, Doug, Frank, George, Ric and
Dave,
it ain't doing no good for these guys. Even when they go to there graves
(like Ric), ain't nothing gonna change.

AKC??? You're wasting your time. You guys need to get out more often.
Go
play with your radio or something. Take it to the streets if you folks
want
something to happen. Don't bring it here to the NG. No one cares about
your rants. Look at the past 8 years since I've been here. Nothing
changed!

I will still be here, in the background looking for CB radio
conversations.
I will still key the mobile on the air and I will still be looking for
skip
from elsewhere. We ain't going anywhere... we will still be here. Good
luck "AKC" in your endeavors... its like trying to pour the ocean into a
hole dug into the beach sand with a cup. Take care...

I will still key when I want to and talk where ever I can get to.
Who cares.........


Oh yeah with whatever it takes to get there!
The2x4