I have seen this time and again on the internet.

"Frank'..goes by millions of names. He is an excellent example of a
person who bought a computer, has few if any friends and uses the internet
in lieu of medication, counseling or just 'getting out more.'

The millions of "Franks' out there can be seen in every group from radio
to religion (or lack there of.) to CD collecting newsgroups.

Their sole purpose in life is some 'compulsive' behavior disorder that
drives them to pay hundrends of dollars for a computer just so they can
excercise their mental disorder on the general public without any face to
face contact. A type of high tech 'sniping' that serves no purpose other
than to satisfy some mental abberation that only counseling and possiably
medication could alleviate.

Now if some think I am being mean to "Frank", I am not.

"Frank" has one very good point about legality.
In the past, CB was licensed as a way to control it. Abeit dismally.
"Frank' or "Franks' like him, are an excellent argument why people
should be licensed for the internet...of course..that will never happen..so
like the "Franks" on CB and ham radio or the little mouthy guy in the bar.
You ignore him.

As said earliar, "Franks' can be seen in every group.

"Franks" as this one did, also rant about their 'right' to 'free
speech'. The real 'right' they want is someone to acknowledge them. Because
in their dismal little world, somewhere along the way they got abandoned,
fired from their job, lost by their mother, their sister/brother hates them,
the girls/guys don't find them appealing, or when they were a kid their
puppy did'nt play with them..whatever....they must have some kind of
attention to prove to themselves they are worthy or important.

"Franks' use the 'right of free speech' and a computer as a bandaide to
hide their mental and social disorders so they can excercise it on people
whom they never met or know.
They care little about the hurt they cause, interupting civil exchanges.
They only care about themselves. Much like a sociopath who can justify
anything.
If they are not on the internet excercising their disorder (Note: not
free speech..this has nothing to do with 'free speech', it's about a mental
abberation they are displaying.), then you can find them on the CB, Ham
radio on 40 and 75 meters, your local tavern or the busy body next door who
knows when you leave or come home.. Every community has at least one.
...you know them..the ones who rant, butt in..generally obnoxious little
people who got their milk money taken from them at school when they were
little and never got over it..
"Franks' are compulsive disorder types who has to have the world their
way. They won't step on cracks. Have to have their towels folded a certain
way. A rigid personality that if one little thing is out of place, then the
world will end..at least their world.
They must 'prove' some obscure point or their world will crumble. They
will argue about a point that has no relevence in their real lives, only in
their fantasy world where they are, or think they are in control.
Franks basically fall into two main catorgories.
The first type of 'Frank' are called "trolls'..these people know they
are obnoxious and as said earliar, looking for attention. They make
outragous or inflamatory statements to get a response. Simply because, they
cannot interact in the real world. If you met a "troll' (I have..), he is a
dismal little person with no life. Shy..reclusive..few if any friends..
He would never say what he does on the interent to a 'real' person. He
excercises his disorder on the internet, in his fantasy world. We have all
seen them on CB. The mouthy guy.
But when you track him down, he is a little guy, has'nt taken a shower
in a week, his girl left him and is working at the local car wash. You feel
so sorry for him, you give him $10.00 and leave. You pray his bad luck is
not contagous..: )

The secound type of "Frank' are serious about their 'beliefs' in that
they display their compulsive disorder by making wild claims or 'polices'
groups. Their rants can range from Government coverups, CIA is watching
them..(or you..), UFO's are after them, CB's are evil, God is bad, there is
no God, the Teletubbies are gay and are after your children.
They spend an outragous amount of time arguing about something with
absolutely no relevence in the real world. Because if they don't, something
bad will happen. At least that is what they believe.
The secound type of 'Frank' is far more dangerous then the 'troll'.
The secound type 'Frank' actually 'believes' his rant and end up as Postal
Workers..: P

Again, I am not being mean to 'Frank'..

'Franks' are a sad truth about the internet. The good thing is we have
'filters' and 'killfiles' to delete these 'Franks' to make our day alittle
more enjoyable so we can talk to people and exchange ideas. You may do so if
you have "Outlook' under "Message'..

The reason to use killfiles is not because your being mean, or don't want to
read his 'free speech'. The reason is 'Franks' are annoying and have little
to contribute. And since it is a disorder we do not want to enable them thus
causing their condition to worsen.

I have just added another 'Frank' to my killfile..





"Frank Gilliland" wrote in message
...
In , "RASTA"
wrote:

For the amount of years I've spent here on this NG, I have yet to see
(hear)
the bandwidth cleaned up. More truckers are getting hired, more
neighborhood idiots are still throwing "10-95's" while you're
chit-chatting,
newer people are skip talking... what good is arguing here gonna do for
cleaning up the band?

Because through this newsgroup an anti-illegal position can be promoted
which
can directly influence the band. The concept is universal and it works;
whether
you call it social reinforcement, peer-pressure, or simply setting a good
example, it's one way that responsible CBers can improve the situation.

Should I answer that?

Don't need to.

This NG is saved for open conversation about CB radio. Not random
bashing.
Everybody wants to know how to mod a radio. Everybody wants to know
where
to purchase an amplifier. Everybody wants to know antenna efficiency and
coax lengths. Is this breaking the law? NO! Discussing CB radio
subject
matter doesn't constitute the individual breaking any laws.

Nobody said it does, a point you seemed to have missed for the past
several
years. What it DOES constitute is the -encouragement- for people to break
those
laws by making the act much easier to accomplish. There are at least two
different ways this 'information' makes lawbreaking easier:

First, and most obvious, is that the information eliminates the need for
the
prospective lawbreakers to learn the technology, allowing them to take a
criminal approach -- the 'quick and easy path' -- to accomplish their
goals. I
sincerely believe that if such information wasn't freely available, many
more of
these people would either educate themselves enough to turn their interest
in
radio into a legitimate hobby (or even a profession), or find it too
difficult
and abandon radio piracy in favor of more rewarding and responsible goals.

The other way is from the attitude that these laws are trivial. Technical
information on how to break the law with CB radio is usually provided
without
any warning that its application may cause interference to CBers and
non-CBers
alike, and most of the time it's not said that its use can be illegal. On
the
contrary, some even go so far as to play lawyer, informing people that
federal
communcation laws are "only rules" to be ignored. Then there are those
that
would have people believe the fantastic, such as that CB operation is
impossible
without illegal modifications or equipment, or that overmodulation is a
good
thing, or even that RF power is the end-all-beat-all of human existence.
This
only encourages illegal radio, and does absolutely nothing to improve the
band
or the newsgroup. And it certainly doesn't help the fence-sitting CBer to
make a
decision that's not only responsible to himself (and perhaps to the
financial
security of his family should the FCC slap him with the typical
multi-thousand
dollar fine), but responsible to all the other CBers that will be
negatively
impacted by his selfishness.

So discuss all you want. But when someone else brings up important topics
that
are ignored in those conversations, just remember that by attempting to
supress
those topics you are demonstrating your contempt for the Constitutional
right to
free speech, the very right you embrace while discussing radio piracy.

Know what the funny thing is? I only know of "1" (one) person that was
on
this NG that got turned in to the FCC. The rest is still keying down.
Imagine that! With the rants of Leland, Doug, Frank, George, Ric and
Dave,
it ain't doing no good for these guys. Even when they go to there graves
(like Ric), ain't nothing gonna change.

That's like saying that we should all just lay down and die now because we
are
all going to die eventually. Well, feel free to do so, but I have other
plans.
Contrary to your opinion, things do change. Sometimes they change for the
better
and sometimes for the worse, but they do change. Some people would rather
promote apathy and use the "if you can't beat 'em, join 'em" excuse for
their
lack of responsibility. Some, such as myself, would rather take an active
hand
in changing things for the better. Because if everybody gives up and
starts
doing whatever they please without conscience or restraint, the whole
thing
falls apart into anarchy and the FCC drops the band -- not my idea of a
bright
future for CB radio.

AKC??? You're wasting your time. You guys need to get out more often.
Go
play with your radio or something. Take it to the streets if you folks
want
something to happen. Don't bring it here to the NG. No one cares about
your rants. Look at the past 8 years since I've been here. Nothing
changed!

Quite a bit has changed. Anti-legal CBers such as yourself no longer
control the
newsgroup. Most have learned that everyone here has an equal voice, that
our
voices can't be 'stepped-on', 'keyed-over', or otherwise supressed the way
they
are on the radio. And loss of control over the airwaves by illegals isn't
far
behind: Radio direction finding technology also falls under the 'freedom
of
speech' umbrella, and their popularity is growing by leaps and bounds.
More and
more CBers are learning that they can self-police their band just like the
hams,
and many have learned that it can be fun at the same time. And because
illegal
CBers are operating with more power, less responsibility, and dirtier
radios
than ever before, the task isn't very difficult. Things have changed, and
will
continue to change whether you like it or not.

I will still be here, in the background looking for CB radio
conversations.
I will still key the mobile on the air and I will still be looking for
skip
from elsewhere. We ain't going anywhere... we will still be here. Good
luck "AKC" in your endeavors... its like trying to pour the ocean into a
hole dug into the beach sand with a cup. Take care...

Do whatever you feel you need to do. So will we.








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