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Packet Ops
Sounds like totally illegal activity to me ... if I were you, I
would not expect help here and would be prepared to duck for cover as the flames erupt ... Carl - wk3c "Cindy W" wrote in message ... There is worldwide packet radio activity on 27540 kHz. Which qsy to 6890 at night. I know of some people in the Tampa area who operate on this frequency and have qso'd other packet stations in the U.S. as well as worldwide DX. Alfa-Delta domestic call signs & Rapert International calls are being used on the frequency. Does anybody know the policy and protocol for hobby packet ops? tnx, Cindy W Worldwide #3815 friendly op endorsement |
youre troll meter is out of whack, must have been golden screwdrivered
troll meter is pegged on this one! |
Ham Dat Am wrote: Cindy -- you have to understand you asked a question about illegal CB operation and Hams are very much against ANY illegal operations on any band. Kinda like asking an atheist question in a Catholic Church. Go to rec.radio.cb --- you will get sympathy there and also probably bad mouthed about illegal operations. But perhaps you didn't know it was illegal -- now you do. Read FCC rules at URL: http://wireless.fcc.gov/services/personal/cb/ As far as your visit to the club meeting -- here in Southern California we have a youth group of young Hams under the age of 18, about 20 of them. We have donated lots of equipment to their schools, given them free books, make a point to welcome them to the repeaters and club meetings. All ethnic groups and genders are represented. They had a table and setup at Field Day just for the youth group at the GOTA station. They meet each Thurs eve for a net on one of our repeaters. Some are involved in Emergency Communications. We treat all Hams the same, young, old, green or blue. Maybe you live in an area where the converse is true. So your comments are like --- this cat is green -- so all cats are reen --- too generalized. And your comment about "Old White men" is racist and stupid, as you too will be old someday. Sooner than you think. Oh, I don't think Cindy will ever be an old white man! 8^) Ask yourself a question "When did I start to hate Old Folks ??" The ones that Tom Brokaw termed "The Greatest Generation". The ones who made this country the great nation it is. Old white guys are a legitimate target - and I hope to someday be an old white guy. |
Bravo well sed! Ditto
Maybe like taking the kids to a Lions or Rotory meeting. zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz "Mike Coslo" wrote in message ... But, to answer your paragraph, why would anyone take a group of kids to an amateur club meeting? It's a completely different environment than they would be comfortable in. And there is usually business to take care of at a meeting that would be mind numbing for kids to listen to, like finances, membership issues, etc. If you really wanted to get them interested, you would get a few amateurs to meet with the kids on the kids turf, like a classroom, the local YMCA, places like that. The kids would be comfortable, only hams who ar interested in public outreach would be involved, and a program could be put together that would keep the kids involved and interactive. - Mike KB3EIA - |
FYI Cindy From FCC URL:
http://wireless.fcc.gov/services/per...ons/#equipment You must use an FCC certificated CB transmitter at your CB station. You can identify an FCC certificated transmitter by the certification label placed on it by the manufacturer. Cindy W |
"Cindy W" wrote in message ... Which is exacly why young kids are turned off by ham radio. I once took a group of young black kids to a local ham radio club meeting. All the old white men ignored the kids or made rude remarks. These same frustrated old white men then wonder why the hobby is rapidly going the way of the horse & buggy. Cindy W Cindy, take that group of young Black kids and turn to CB Super Bowl channel 6 get them 10 kw amplifiers and they will fit right in.... |
"Mike Coslo" wrote in message ... But, to answer your paragraph, why would anyone take a group of kids to an amateur club meeting? It's a completely different environment than they would be comfortable in. And there is usually business to take care of at a meeting that would be mind numbing for kids to listen to, like finances, membership issues, etc. If you really wanted to get them interested, you would get a few amateurs to meet with the kids on the kids turf, like a classroom, the local YMCA, places like that. The kids would be comfortable, only hams who ar interested in public outreach would be involved, and a program could be put together that would keep the kids involved and interactive. - Mike KB3EIA - I think that getting kids involved with local ham clubs is an excellent idea. It will socialize them with the older, more experienced hams that can "elmer" them, show them that there is order and organization, expose them to programs and activities, etc. The KEY is finding the RIGHT ham club that will treat the kids the way they be deserve to be treated as the future of amateur radio, not a club that will shun and ridicule them as Cindy has described. Carl - wk3c |
Tom wrote:
You are mistaken. CB radio is a legal hobby and so is packet radio. But not packet on CB. |
"Twistedhed" wrote in message ... Cindy, take that group of young Black kids and turn to CB Super Bowl channel 6 get them 10 kw amplifiers and they will fit right in.... _ Gee, in addition to your many anti-semitic remarks concerning Jews, you're now going to resurrect your discrimination against not only those who don't thinkkk like you, but those who don't look like you, as well. You're a regular pillar of intellect. Yaw.....nnnnnnnn |
"Tom" wrote in message ... You are mistaken. CB radio is a legal hobby and so is packet radio. Both are legal but combining packet with CB is NOT legal. Also US law limits CB communications to LOCAL use only although propagation makes it possible to communicate world wide. You are not allowed to make cross country or out of country contacts on CB. Actually given the fact that we are in the trough of the sunspot cycle, long distance communications on the CB band will be rather rare for the next few years. Dee D. Flint, N8UZE |
"Carl R. Stevenson" wrote in message ... "Mike Coslo" wrote in message ... But, to answer your paragraph, why would anyone take a group of kids to an amateur club meeting? It's a completely different environment than they would be comfortable in. And there is usually business to take care of at a meeting that would be mind numbing for kids to listen to, like finances, membership issues, etc. If you really wanted to get them interested, you would get a few amateurs to meet with the kids on the kids turf, like a classroom, the local YMCA, places like that. The kids would be comfortable, only hams who ar interested in public outreach would be involved, and a program could be put together that would keep the kids involved and interactive. - Mike KB3EIA - I think that getting kids involved with local ham clubs is an excellent idea. It will socialize them with the older, more experienced hams that can "elmer" them, show them that there is order and organization, expose them to programs and activities, etc. The KEY is finding the RIGHT ham club that will treat the kids the way they be deserve to be treated as the future of amateur radio, not a club that will shun and ridicule them as Cindy has described. Carl - wk3c Not only that but if the group is larger than two or three, it would be very wise to arrange it with the club in advance so that they can set aside some time from the business meeting to welcome the kids and have material prepared to show them some of the marvels of ham radio. Just springing a batch of kids on the club is not the best way to introduce the kids to the club and vice versa. Dee D. Flint, N8UZE |
"Robert Casey" wrote in message ... Tom wrote: You are mistaken. CB radio is a legal hobby and so is packet radio. But not packet on CB. This is true in the U.S., but in other parts of the world CB packet is completely legal, and very popular. FBB BBS software was altered about eight or nine years ago to make it usable with CB callsigns, because of that popularity. There are dozens of European CB packet web-sites... Where have all you guys been the last decade or so? If it was legal here in the U.S., it would be popular here, too. Personally, I do not see any harm in it, but the law is the law. It can't be done here in the U.S., but we cannot assume that everybody in this newsgroup is in the U.S.. For some of the readers here, CB packet is a legal, legitimate hobby. Charles Brabham, N5PVL |
"Dan/W4NTI" w4nti@get rid of this mindspring.com wrote:
Not up to us 'old white men' to handle you and your problem. I just forwarded your initial message to the FCC. I hope they find it interesting. Don't like that? Too bad. Dan/W4NTI I'm sure they need another good laugh from you, twit. -- GO #40 |
wrote in message ... "Dan/W4NTI" w4nti@get rid of this mindspring.com wrote: Not up to us 'old white men' to handle you and your problem. I just forwarded your initial message to the FCC. I hope they find it interesting. Don't like that? Too bad. Dan/W4NTI I'm sure they need another good laugh from you, twit. -- GO #40 QRZ ??? who was the little twit there ??? QRZ ??? Dan/W4NTI |
"Dan/W4NTI" w4nti@get rid of this mindspring.com wrote:
wrote in message ... "Dan/W4NTI" w4nti@get rid of this mindspring.com wrote: Not up to us 'old white men' to handle you and your problem. I just forwarded your initial message to the FCC. I hope they find it interesting. Don't like that? Too bad. Dan/W4NTI I'm sure they need another good laugh from you, twit. -- GO #40 QRZ ??? who was the little twit there ??? QRZ ??? Dan/W4NTI That's easy: W4NTI DANIEL L JESWALD 89 WILDMAN RD ANNISTON AL 36201 USA -- GO #40 |
Ham Dat Am wrote:
"Mike Coslo" wrote in message ... Old white guys are a legitimate target - and I hope to someday be an old white guy. Don't tell that to an old Marine who fought on Iwo Jima I was just thinking that being old was better than the alternative! 8^) And well, white guys of eurpean descent are kind of the target( and supposed cause of all ills) these day, old or young are the target these days, no? - Mike KB3EIA - |
"Ham Dat Am" wrote in message news:i3y1b.12829$S_.6013@fed1read01... However the original poster Cindy indicated she was in Tampa, FL and her e-mail address substantiates that. Well then, it looks like Cindy's just going to have to find something legal to do. If she really likes packet, I'd recommend that she get her ham ticket and participate in the fine amateur packet radio activity that goes on in Florida. They have over 50 SEDAN nodes there if she is into public service and emergency communications, and there is also a great ROSE network there. Trying to do packet on CB freqs in Florida will just get her in trouble, to no particular purpose. Charles Brabham, N5PVL |
Carl R. Stevenson wrote:
"Mike Coslo" wrote in message ... But, to answer your paragraph, why would anyone take a group of kids to an amateur club meeting? It's a completely different environment than they would be comfortable in. And there is usually business to take care of at a meeting that would be mind numbing for kids to listen to, like finances, membership issues, etc. If you really wanted to get them interested, you would get a few amateurs to meet with the kids on the kids turf, like a classroom, the local YMCA, places like that. The kids would be comfortable, only hams who ar interested in public outreach would be involved, and a program could be put together that would keep the kids involved and interactive. - Mike KB3EIA - I think that getting kids involved with local ham clubs is an excellent idea. It will socialize them with the older, more experienced hams that can "elmer" them, show them that there is order and organization, expose them to programs and activities, etc. The KEY is finding the RIGHT ham club that will treat the kids the way they be deserve to be treated as the future of amateur radio, not a club that will shun and ridicule them as Cindy has described. I think that the best approach is to get with the kids at a level that they can relate to. And a club meeting is not always the right place. There is business to attend to, and that is a necessary evil which can turn a kid off really quickly. It can turn a lot of other people off also. In our club, the board tries to do as much business as possible during the separate board meetings. But we still have to bring a surprising number of issues before the membership. Now that being said, if someone wanted to bring a number of students to a club meeting, we would probably come up with some program to keep them entertained and interactive. What is interesting to a group of Older folk is probably not going to be interesting to a group of teenagers, save for a narrow overlap. The other thing I would be interested in knowing is the other side of the story. Did Ms Cindy just show up with the kids in tow? Did the hams, if they knew she was coming, do nothiing special for them? There are enough unanswered questions that I must go on the evidence presented, and that is the illegal packet suggestion, and the odd race related comment. Perhaps Cindy can elaborate....... - Mike KB3EIA - |
charlesb wrote:
"Robert Casey" wrote in message ... Tom wrote: You are mistaken. CB radio is a legal hobby and so is packet radio. But not packet on CB. This is true in the U.S., but in other parts of the world CB packet is completely legal, and very popular. FBB BBS software was altered about eight or nine years ago to make it usable with CB callsigns, because of that popularity. There are dozens of European CB packet web-sites... Where have all you guys been the last decade or so? I don't pay much attention to US CB, I'm not about to study the European version. - Mike KB3EIA - |
"charlesb" wrote:
"Dan/W4NTI" w4nti@get rid of this mindspring.com wrote in message ink.net... QRZ ??? who was the little twit there ??? QRZ ??? I don't pay much attention to anybody who claims to be a ham but won't show a callsign. They're almost always anti-ham trolls. Charles, N5PVL Why do you cross post your drivel to rec.radio.cb then, brainiak? -- GO #40 |
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The more I look at this thread the more it looks like the 'almost' perfect troll. note that Cindy made one posting to start it to two conflicting groups, one of which is known to be hostile to the discussed activity. She already knew the frequencies, times, other operators, and apparently had enough equipment to monitor said activity, which should have been enough to answer her question without having to post to these groups. And after the first, and surprisingly civil reply, she hopped in with both feet on a totally unrelated topic to attack ham operators and label them not only as judgmental hypocrites, but also as racist old white men... then she disappeared. If she could have done both with a single message it might have qualified as a perfect troll, but now I can only give it a 9 out of 10 on the troll-o-meter. |
"charlesb" wrote in message gy.com... "Dan/W4NTI" w4nti@get rid of this mindspring.com wrote in message ink.net... QRZ ??? who was the little twit there ??? QRZ ??? I don't pay much attention to anybody who claims to be a ham but won't show a callsign. They're almost always anti-ham trolls. Charles, N5PVL Yep. Dan/W4NTI |
"Mike Coslo" wrote in message ... wrote: "charlesb" wrote: "Dan/W4NTI" w4nti@get rid of this mindspring.com wrote in message ink.net... QRZ ??? who was the little twit there ??? QRZ ??? I don't pay much attention to anybody who claims to be a ham but won't show a callsign. They're almost always anti-ham trolls. Charles, N5PVL Why do you cross post your drivel to rec.radio.cb then, brainiak? Because the original message was there and in rrap, and I was responding to a person tha tI think posted from there. - Mike KB3EIA - Don't worry about Moparholic. This is his usual troll. Tries to stir it up, then bitches because its cross posted. He probably cross posted it anyway. It don't mean nothin man. Dan/W4NTI |
"Mike Coslo" wrote in message ... Ham Dat Am wrote: "Mike Coslo" wrote in message ... Old white guys are a legitimate target - and I hope to someday be an old white guy. Don't tell that to an old Marine who fought on Iwo Jima I was just thinking that being old was better than the alternative! 8^) And well, white guys of eurpean descent are kind of the target( and supposed cause of all ills) these day, old or young are the target these days, no? - Mike KB3EIA - What the Marine was saying....is some of us 'old white guys' that are targets....can fire back. Dan/W4NTI |
Dan/W4NTI wrote: "Mike Coslo" wrote in message ... wrote: "charlesb" wrote: "Dan/W4NTI" w4nti@get rid of this mindspring.com wrote in message ink.net... QRZ ??? who was the little twit there ??? QRZ ??? I don't pay much attention to anybody who claims to be a ham but won't show a callsign. They're almost always anti-ham trolls. Charles, N5PVL Why do you cross post your drivel to rec.radio.cb then, brainiak? Because the original message was there and in rrap, and I was responding to a person tha tI think posted from there. - Mike KB3EIA - Don't worry about Moparholic. This is his usual troll. Tries to stir it up, then bitches because its cross posted. He probably cross posted it anyway. It don't mean nothin man. Dan/W4NTI and you continue the xpost. it does mean something man......... |
"K0HB" wrote in message
m... "Carl R. Stevenson" wrote You *are* correct that there are too many hams who are not open to, and often disparage, newcomers or "would-be's. That IS a significant problem in bringing in the newcomers and, particularly, younger folks who represent the future of ham radio. On this point we agree 100%. If there is *one* such ham, that is too many, but you seem to suggest that the problem is widespread. On that notion we disagree 100%. For every curmudgeon who disparages newcomers there are thousands who actively welcome them. Check out www.mnyarc.org. It was formed by members of our club, originally as a club sponsored Explorer Post, and has grown into a standalone group fully dedicated to nurturing youth-oriented amateur radio in our area. Hamfest Minnesota, also sponsored by our club, has a policy of free admission to hams aged 17 and under. These are just a couple of examples right in my neighborhood. Maybe you just live in a bad neighborhood. 73, de Hans, K0HB Hans, I have seen/heard it from SoCal to Florida to New England ... over many years ... However, I did not intend to imply that all/most/a large majority of hams are that way ... just WAY too many are (although we agree that even *one* is "too many," my experience is that there are a LOT more than that ... Perhaps folks are just friendlier overall up in your neck of the woods? Carl - wk3c |
gw wrote: well comcast creep my name is gw, gw beckwith sir and i do not know those other fine gentlemen but i do appreciate your help on the matter......a advanced class turd, if you will,....... living in colorado springs ........that should narrow down the pool of likely candidates for one bodacious, first class phone phucking......doncha know... That is "an advanced class"....doncha know. Why "doncha" learn the proper use of English? |
jim wrote:
Dan/W4NTI wrote: "Mike Coslo" wrote in message ... wrote: "charlesb" wrote: "Dan/W4NTI" w4nti@get rid of this mindspring.com wrote in message ink.net... QRZ ??? who was the little twit there ??? QRZ ??? I don't pay much attention to anybody who claims to be a ham but won't show a callsign. They're almost always anti-ham trolls. Charles, N5PVL Why do you cross post your drivel to rec.radio.cb then, brainiak? Because the original message was there and in rrap, and I was responding to a person tha tI think posted from there. - Mike KB3EIA - Don't worry about Moparholic. This is his usual troll. Tries to stir it up, then bitches because its cross posted. He probably cross posted it anyway. It don't mean nothin man. Dan/W4NTI and you continue the xpost. it does mean something man......... He doesn't know any better, he even uses his call on the freeband. What a dumbass. -- GO #40 |
JJ wrote in message ...
gw wrote: whew!!!! another fink........man that makes me have this incredible compunction to go take a test .............. Don't bother, you couldn't pass it, "doncha know". What a turd. well anyone can obviously go further than you.......i mean......how come you never went for your general class ham license ......aren't there any general class guys that sit in as ve's for you to take the test in beautiful colorado springs john boy????? |
"Dan/W4NTI" w4nti@get rid of this mindspring.com wrote in message ink.net... Don't worry about Moparholic. This is his usual troll. Tries to stir it up, then bitches because its cross posted. He probably cross posted it anyway. It don't mean nothin man. Dan/W4NTI Boy, Dan sure sounds like you got him pegged. |
"gw" wrote in message om... JJ wrote in message ... gw wrote: whew!!!! another fink........man that makes me have this incredible compunction to go take a test .............. Don't bother, you couldn't pass it, "doncha know". What a turd. well anyone can obviously go further than you.......i mean......how come you never went for your general class ham license ......aren't there any general class guys that sit in as ve's for you to take the test in beautiful colorado springs john boy????? gw,curiousdan,pinhead,icecoldbeer etc etc, you sure are stuoid JJ is an advanced class which is higher than general, now go wash off, you stink |
"SD Special Delivery Jones" wrote:
you sure are stuoid JJ You're a ****ing moron. -- GO #40 |
"SD Special Delivery Jones" wrote:
"Dan/W4NTI" w4nti@get rid of this mindspring.com wrote in message ink.net... Don't worry about Moparholic. This is his usual troll. Tries to stir it up, then bitches because its cross posted. He probably cross posted it anyway. It don't mean nothin man. Dan/W4NTI Boy, Dan sure sounds like you got him pegged. The old irony meter is -pegged-. One retard kissing the others ass. -- GO #40 |
Easy Moped or twsity will accuse you of cursing all weekend and legg humping
wrote in message ... "SD Special Delivery Jones" wrote: you sure are stuoid JJ You're a ****ing moron. -- GO #40 |
"SD Special Delivery Jones" wrote in message ...
"gw" wrote in message om... JJ wrote in message ... gw wrote: whew!!!! another fink........man that makes me have this incredible compunction to go take a test .............. Don't bother, you couldn't pass it, "doncha know". What a turd. well anyone can obviously go further than you.......i mean......how come you never went for your general class ham license ......aren't there any general class guys that sit in as ve's for you to take the test in beautiful colorado springs john boy????? gw,curiousdan,pinhead,icecoldbeer etc etc, you sure are stuoid JJ is an advanced class which is higher than general, now go wash off, you stink well comcast creep my name is gw, gw beckwith sir and i do not know those other fine gentlemen but i do appreciate your help on the matter......a advanced class turd, if you will,....... living in colorado springs ........that should narrow down the pool of likely candidates for one bodacious, first class phone phucking......doncha know... |
"gw" wrote in message om... "SD Special Delivery Jones" wrote in message ... "gw" wrote in message om... JJ wrote in message ... gw wrote: whew!!!! another fink........man that makes me have this incredible compunction to go take a test .............. Don't bother, you couldn't pass it, "doncha know". What a turd. well anyone can obviously go further than you.......i mean......how come you never went for your general class ham license ......aren't there any general class guys that sit in as ve's for you to take the test in beautiful colorado springs john boy????? gw,curiousdan,pinhead,icecoldbeer etc etc, you sure are stuoid JJ is an advanced class which is higher than general, now go wash off, you stink well comcast creep my name is gw, gw beckwith sir and i do not know those other fine gentlemen Sure you know those fine gentleman, your ip address says so... |
"gw" wrote in message om... wrote in message ... "Dan/W4NTI" w4nti@get rid of this mindspring.com wrote: "Mike Coslo" wrote in message ... wrote: "charlesb" wrote: "Dan/W4NTI" w4nti@get rid of this mindspring.com wrote in message ink.net... QRZ ??? who was the little twit there ??? QRZ ??? I don't pay much attention to anybody who claims to be a ham but won't show a callsign. They're almost always anti-ham trolls. Charles, N5PVL Why do you cross post your drivel to rec.radio.cb then, brainiak? Because the original message was there and in rrap, and I was responding to a person tha tI think posted from there. - Mike KB3EIA - Don't worry about Moparholic. This is his usual troll. Tries to stir it up, then bitches because its cross posted. He probably cross posted it anyway. It don't mean nothin man. Dan/W4NTI I'm starting to hear W4NTI on the freeband. well it is no different than john boy running around calling himself ve1jot...i don't understand how some dude that lives in colorado goes around calling himself a canadian hamster...........i guess it is a attempt by some old agitator wantabee to try and shake the dogs of war, but as is usually the case.........these types of blowhards always make a mistake and it can be safely said that both , danny boy and johnny boy are two peas in the same pod so to speak........long on the mouth and short on the ass..... ......doncha know....... Who the hell is 'johnny boy' and what makes you think the real W4NTI gives a rats ass about the 'freeband' ?, whatever that is. Dan/W4NTI |
"Carl R. Stevenson" wrote:
"Mike Coslo" wrote in message ... But, to answer your paragraph, why would anyone take a group of kids to an amateur club meeting? It's a completely different environment than they would be comfortable in. And there is usually business to take care of at a meeting that would be mind numbing for kids to listen to, like finances, membership issues, etc. If you really wanted to get them interested, you would get a few amateurs to meet with the kids on the kids turf, like a classroom, the local YMCA, places like that. The kids would be comfortable, only hams who ar interested in public outreach would be involved, and a program could be put together that would keep the kids involved and interactive. - Mike KB3EIA - I think that getting kids involved with local ham clubs is an excellent idea. It will socialize them with the older, more experienced hams that can "elmer" them, show them that there is order and organization, expose them to programs and activities, etc. The KEY is finding the RIGHT ham club that will treat the kids the way they be deserve to be treated as the future of amateur radio, not a club that will shun and ridicule them as Cindy has described. Carl - wk3c Indeed that is the case Carl....I suggest she organize an Explorer Post there, built around hi-tech electronics and ham radio. We've had one for nearly 30 years here in the Phoenix area; Explorer Post 599. We've sent hundreds of kids on to careers in engineering, computers, and related technical fields. Exploring is open to both males and females, ages 14-20, as both youth members and adult advisors. You can make of it what you want, without all the "wrong" kind of old white males intimidating your kids. Rick T. W7RT Committee Chairman, Explorer Post 599 |
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