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rab October 20th 03 10:35 PM

best type and location of antenna(s)
 
I've got an older ford crewcab with a radioshack ssb cb radio. What
would be a good antenna setup for this rig. I will be hauling an
overhead camper on occasion. Twin mirror mounts apeal to me. What is
going to get me the best all round performance?

Thanks

Radioman October 21st 03 12:27 AM

One, single, large antenna on a properly grounded mount will work
better then any attempt at co-phase on any vehicle not 8.5 feet wide.

At 27 MHz, any antenna shorter then 5 feet is a waste of time.

rab wrote:

I've got an older ford crewcab with a radioshack ssb cb radio. What
would be a good antenna setup for this rig. I will be hauling an
overhead camper on occasion. Twin mirror mounts apeal to me. What is
going to get me the best all round performance?

Thanks


[email protected] October 21st 03 02:25 AM

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At 27 MHz, any antenna shorter then 5 feet is a waste of time.

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Not true. There are antennas at five feet that will match or even
surpass a 102" SS whip.


Frank Gilliland October 21st 03 02:53 AM

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At 27 MHz, any antenna shorter then 5 feet is a waste of time.

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Not true. There are antennas at five feet that will match or even
surpass a 102" SS whip.


Bull****.





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rab October 21st 03 01:32 PM

Okay guys I know next to nothing about mounting an antenna so bear
with me...A single stainless steel 102" antenna mounted in the middle
of my roof is the best setup? How long and what type of coax?


Frank Gilliland wrote in message . ..
In , wrote:

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At 27 MHz, any antenna shorter then 5 feet is a waste of time.

snip

Not true. There are antennas at five feet that will match or even
surpass a 102" SS whip.


Bull****.





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toolz toolz October 21st 03 02:23 PM

Just buy yourself a Wilson 2000 or 5000, and you will be pleased with the
results. Do not let the "experts" here yank you around. A 102" whip is a
pain in the ass. It will hit everything above you , trees, garages , etc.
The Wilson comes with coax. Good luck. t
"rab" wrote in message
om...
Okay guys I know next to nothing about mounting an antenna so bear
with me...A single stainless steel 102" antenna mounted in the middle
of my roof is the best setup? How long and what type of coax?


Frank Gilliland wrote in message

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In , wrote:

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At 27 MHz, any antenna shorter then 5 feet is a waste of time.
snip

Not true. There are antennas at five feet that will match or even
surpass a 102" SS whip.


Bull****.





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Richard Cranium October 21st 03 02:24 PM

Frank Gilliland wrote in message . ..
In , wrote:

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At 27 MHz, any antenna shorter then 5 feet is a waste of time.

snip

Not true. There are antennas at five feet that will match or even
surpass a 102" SS whip.


Bull****.


This may shock and dismay some people, but I agree with you Frank. A
102" stainless steel (or fiberglass) whip properly mounted will beat
shortened and loaded antennas any day.

Best location would be dead center on the roof, but with a cab-over
camper you can't do that permanently, although you could use a
mag-mount antenna and place it on top of the camper when you have it
onboard.

Frank Gilliland October 21st 03 03:18 PM

In ,
(Richard Cranium) wrote:

Frank Gilliland wrote in message . ..
In ,
wrote:

snip
At 27 MHz, any antenna shorter then 5 feet is a waste of time.
snip

Not true. There are antennas at five feet that will match or even
surpass a 102" SS whip.


Bull****.


This may shock and dismay some people, but I agree with you Frank. A
102" stainless steel (or fiberglass) whip properly mounted will beat
shortened and loaded antennas any day.

Best location would be dead center on the roof, but with a cab-over
camper you can't do that permanently, although you could use a
mag-mount antenna and place it on top of the camper when you have it
onboard.


I mounted mine dead-center on the roo-guard and tie it back. That way I can
still use it with my camper, and it doesn't snag on the brush like it does when
it's mounted on the rear bumper and tied forward.






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[email protected] October 21st 03 05:59 PM

On Mon, 20 Oct 2003 18:53:01 -0700, Frank Gilliland
wrote:

In , wrote:

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At 27 MHz, any antenna shorter then 5 feet is a waste of time.

snip

Not true. There are antennas at five feet that will match or even
surpass a 102" SS whip.


Bull****.


This has been shown before. Get off your fat ass and do an actual
test. You will find that a Stainless Steel 102" whip can be marginally
beat. You can not realize this by reading a book! Get off your ass.

P.S. A 1/4 wave whip of thicker more conductive material can't be beat
by a shorter antenna, but my comment was about the common 102" SS
whip.

[email protected] October 21st 03 06:27 PM

snip
This may shock and dismay some people, but I agree with you Frank. A
102" stainless steel (or fiberglass) whip properly mounted will beat
shortened and loaded antennas any day.

Best location would be dead center on the roof, but with a cab-over
camper you can't do that permanently, although you could use a
mag-mount antenna and place it on top of the camper when you have it
onboard.

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A repost of a ACTUAL test:

The antennas:

108" SS whip
7 foot Firestik
5'4" X- Terminator double coil


The conditions of this test follow:

1. All connected to Hustler Quick disconnects
2. All used at 1.5 : 1 match or better
3. All tested with a constant tone, constant power transmitter
4. All used on a three magnet mount on the roof of a truck
5. All tested from a parked vehicle that never moved during each test
6. All tested within a very brief time period of each other (15 sec.)
7. All used a stationary Kenwood 940 receiver.
8. The 940 used a vertical beam free and clear of obstacles.
9. A video camera and a 31" television was used to display
a (31" S- METER) and record the results.

Thirteen mile free and clear of obstacles.

108" SS 5.2 s-units
Firestik 5.3 s-units
X-Term 5.4 s-units

Thirteen mile in the middle of the woods test

108" SS 3.3 s-units
Firestik 3.7 s-units
X-Term 3.9 s-units

Twenty four mile free and clear of obstacles.
108" SS .25 s-units
Firestik 1.3 s-units
X-Term 1.5 s-units


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