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Brian December 15th 03 06:28 AM

"KØHB" wrote in message ink.net...
"Brian" wrote


She is, more or less, an official ARRL spam-bot.
Wonder if she is an official bulletin station?


And you are, more or less, the official LHA junior-Unabasher. I want you to
be fully aware of your role in rrap, Brian. It goes like this: LHA is the
organ grinder, playing a song called "I Left My Heart in ADA, and Newington
Won't Give It Back". You are the little monkey in a bright red hat hopping
up and down and acting silly for our amusement.

With all best wishes for the recovery of your missing T5 logs,

de Hans, K0HB/4ID


Brakejob/4ID, the only problem with your little organ grinder/monkey
scenario is that is didn't play out here.

You smell like you've been ****ed on, so perhaps you've got some other
monkey scenario going on there. In any case, its none of my biddness
what you do in the privacy of your home so please stop trying to
entertain us with it here.

With all kind wished for a speedy recovery, my T5 logs are intact.
You're still not in them, so don't solicit for an unearned card.

Brian

Brian December 15th 03 06:41 AM

"Dee D. Flint" wrote in message igy.com...
"Brian" wrote in message
om...
"Dee D. Flint" wrote in message

igy.com...

It probably was no longer cost effective to sell it on newstands.

If the ARRL is making money (a no-no for a non-profit corp) then report

them
to the IRS. If they are not making money, then no matter how big they

are,
it is not about money since no one is making a profit.

Dee D. Flint, N8UZE


Un-friggin-believable.

Non-profits aren't about profit. They're about salaries.


If the salaries are too high, get on the board and get them reduced.

Dee D. Flint, N8UZE


Who said they were too high?

They have to balance their books somehow (to avoid the appearance of
profit), and the salary is the most convenient place to dump the
excess.

It's about your ignorance of what a non-profit really is.

Dwight Stewart December 15th 03 09:00 AM


"Dan/W4NTI" wrote:

You do realize that the ARRL has the
publication and distribution of QST
contracted out, don't you? You should
crab to them, not the league per se.



Of course. I wasn't complaining about not getting the magazine - only
explaining why I purchased the magazine at a book store.


Dwight Stewart (W5NET)

http://www.qsl.net/w5net/


Kim W5TIT December 15th 03 10:22 AM

"Brian" wrote in message
om...
"Dee D. Flint" wrote in message

igy.com...
"Brian" wrote in message
om...
"Dee D. Flint" wrote in message

igy.com...

It probably was no longer cost effective to sell it on newstands.

If the ARRL is making money (a no-no for a non-profit corp) then

report
them
to the IRS. If they are not making money, then no matter how big

they
are,
it is not about money since no one is making a profit.

Dee D. Flint, N8UZE

Un-friggin-believable.

Non-profits aren't about profit. They're about salaries.


If the salaries are too high, get on the board and get them reduced.

Dee D. Flint, N8UZE


Who said they were too high?

They have to balance their books somehow (to avoid the appearance of
profit), and the salary is the most convenient place to dump the
excess.

It's about your ignorance of what a non-profit really is.


Oh yeah...non-profit is the best place to be...And, the greates exploiter of
human emotion, etc. With little effort, the dollars churn in--most people
don't file for the donation they are entitled to (only large donations whose
contributors are also playing the non-profit game).

That's why I'd like to see the tax structure change to some kind of
percentage across the board. The *only* entity that would not have to pay
any would be a church--and that only for the church building, its parking
lot, and its parish. If they've got a private school, nursing home, etc.,
they pay. And, no deductions for *anyone* or *anything* across the board.
Colgate, Mr. Bates, and me all pay the same percentage of tax out of our
income; that's it--end of game.

Kim W5TIT

Kim W5TIT



Dee D. Flint December 15th 03 11:16 PM


"Brian" wrote in message
om...
"Dee D. Flint" wrote in message

igy.com...
"Brian" wrote in message
om...


Dee got on early supporting the status quo; hook,line and sinker. She
is a perfect mouth-piece for the ARRL, and I've heard her repeating,
word for word, the policies of this organization. She is, more or
less, an official ARRL spam-bot. Wonder if she is an official
bulletin station?


Not hardly. I disapprove of some of the policies but I do not expect it

to
change when my view doesn't represent the majority view. I do not

consider
differences of opinion on some policies to be reason to stop supporting
them. Also I merely state that non-members shouldn't think they can

change
the policies. The ARRL policies, as with any organization, will reflect

the
opinions of the majority of members. Someone with a minority opinion in

any
organization will have to work very hard to get the majority to adopt

it.
Organizations have no obligation to reflect the opinion of non-members.

Dee D. Flint, N8UZE


Oh, BS, Dee. You just got through saying that if you don't belong, if
you don't rise to the top of the food chain, blah blah, horse crap,
blah blah.

The ARRL wants to be the -ONE- voice for the ARS. I suggest that they
start with forward thinking leadership representing all, not just
their CW-centric membership. Or get out of the way.


There you show how out of date you are. In recent years, the ARRL has
shifted to a neutral stand on CW. Their efforts have indeed been centered
on more important issues. What policies do you think the ARRL should be
focusing on? They have to pick and choose. And again they have to pick the
issues that the majority of their members want not the minority and not
non-members. If they don't, they'll be voted out of office and someone will
be put in who will do it that way.

Dee D. Flint, N8UZE


Dee D. Flint December 15th 03 11:19 PM


"Brian" wrote in message
om...
Were you in the majority?? If not then why should everyone else change

to
suit you.


The FCC spoke. And what they spoke was not ARRL majority opinion.

What do you make of that, Dee?


Very simple. The ARRL only has the power to lobby. They cannot force the
FCC to go along with the ARRL opinion.

Dee D. Flint, N8UZE


Dee D. Flint December 15th 03 11:20 PM


"Brian" wrote in message
om...
"Dee D. Flint" wrote in message

igy.com...
"Brian" wrote in message
om...
"Dee D. Flint" wrote in message

igy.com...

It probably was no longer cost effective to sell it on newstands.

If the ARRL is making money (a no-no for a non-profit corp) then

report
them
to the IRS. If they are not making money, then no matter how big

they
are,
it is not about money since no one is making a profit.

Dee D. Flint, N8UZE

Un-friggin-believable.

Non-profits aren't about profit. They're about salaries.


If the salaries are too high, get on the board and get them reduced.

Dee D. Flint, N8UZE


Who said they were too high?

They have to balance their books somehow (to avoid the appearance of
profit), and the salary is the most convenient place to dump the
excess.

It's about your ignorance of what a non-profit really is.


Ok where is the money going?? You said they dump it into salaries thus
implying that said salaries are artificially inflated and then indicate that
you don't think the salaries are too high. Which is it? Facts please, not
emotional innuendo.

Dee D. Flint, N8UZE


Mike Coslo December 16th 03 03:21 AM

Brian wrote:
Mike Coslo wrote in message t...


Won't happen, Dan. People like that have selective memory. They'll rail
about how QST doesn't have articles about what they want to see, and
conveniently forget about the important jobs ARRL does for us.

1. That only a minority of hams belong to ARRL speaks much more about
hams than it does the ARRL.



Are you saying that I'm a sucker?


Don't think so. I'm a member too.


2. I would challenge the ARRL haters to come up with scenario's of what
the ARS would be like today (if it even existed) if there was no ARRL.

- Mike KB3EIA -



World peace?


I prefer my peas boiled with butter, though I might like to try whirled
peas some time.

- Mike KB3EIA


Steveo December 16th 03 03:25 AM

Mike Coslo wrote:
I prefer my peas boiled with butter, though I might like to try whirled

peas some time.

- Mike KB3EIA

Finally something I can relate to in rec.radio.cb . Homegrown
peas and butter. Mmmmm!

Thanks for sharing this thread with us CBer's.

sideband December 16th 03 04:30 AM

I eat my peas with honey,
I've done it all my life.
It makes the peas taste funny,
But it keeps them on my knife.

-SSB

Mike Coslo wrote:
Brian wrote:

Mike Coslo wrote in message
t...


Won't happen, Dan. People like that have selective memory.
They'll rail about how QST doesn't have articles about what they want
to see, and conveniently forget about the important jobs ARRL does
for us.

1. That only a minority of hams belong to ARRL speaks much more
about hams than it does the ARRL.




Are you saying that I'm a sucker?



Don't think so. I'm a member too.



2. I would challenge the ARRL haters to come up with scenario's
of what the ARS would be like today (if it even existed) if there was
no ARRL.

- Mike KB3EIA -




World peace?



I prefer my peas boiled with butter, though I might like to try whirled
peas some time.

- Mike KB3EIA




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