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Sarge December 19th 03 08:25 AM

Cobra 139 XLR
 
Anyone know how to strap it ( mod to boost output) ?



Radioman December 19th 03 08:14 PM

Sarge wrote:

Anyone know how to strap it ( mod to boost output) ?


Hook Charlie Hugg's amp to it.

Any boost from the radio will only be noticed on YOUR meter.
The person on the other end will wonder why you sound like sh!t...

siroblivion. December 20th 03 02:00 PM


"Sarge" wrote in message
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Anyone know how to strap it ( mod to boost output) ?


Remove ALC - Part # R-132




Sarge December 20th 03 09:15 PM


"siroblivion." wrote in message
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"Sarge" wrote in message
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Anyone know how to strap it ( mod to boost output) ?


Remove ALC - Part # R-132


thank you, sir. Any idea what increase you get?



CBM December 20th 03 11:04 PM

Live it alone, like was said , will not help on the receiving end, if you
need a difference use a amp.


"Sarge" wrote in message
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"siroblivion." wrote in message
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"Sarge" wrote in message
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Anyone know how to strap it ( mod to boost output) ?


Remove ALC - Part # R-132


thank you, sir. Any idea what increase you get?





Steveo December 20th 03 11:15 PM

"CBM" wrote:
Live it alone, like was said , will not help on the receiving end, if you
need a difference use a amp.

Good advice.

Sarge December 21st 03 12:31 AM


"CBM" wrote in message
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Live it alone, like was said , will not help on the receiving end, if you
need a difference use a amp.


got an amp but need to kick it harder. I have plenty recieve. Working off an
inverted V.



Steveo December 21st 03 12:38 AM

"Sarge" wrote:
"CBM" wrote in message
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Live it alone, like was said , will not help on the receiving end, if
you need a difference use a amp.


got an amp but need to kick it harder. I have plenty recieve. Working off
an inverted V.

How directional is it? ;)

Donald Sherwood December 21st 03 08:02 AM


I agree leave it alone, unless you know what your doing. Even then just
Yanking out Mod. Limiter will just increase your spurious emissions
(Splatter) Increase.
--
1991 Tornado Red Corrado, CCA Mem # 6645
Stereo is a continuous W.I.P.

There are two parts to wisdom:
1) Having a lot to say, and
2) Not saying it.

"CBM" wrote in message
Live it alone, like was said , will not help on the receiving end, if you
need a difference use a amp.


"Sarge" wrote in message
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"siroblivion." wrote in message
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"Sarge" wrote in message
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Anyone know how to strap it ( mod to boost output) ?

Remove ALC - Part # R-132


thank you, sir. Any idea what increase you get?







Sarge December 21st 03 11:04 PM


"Steveo" wrote in message
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"Sarge" wrote:
"CBM" wrote in message
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Live it alone, like was said , will not help on the receiving end, if
you need a difference use a amp.


got an amp but need to kick it harder. I have plenty recieve. Working

off
an inverted V.

How directional is it? ;)


figures out to be about 80% forward lobe.



Sarge December 22nd 03 08:20 AM


"Radioman" wrote in message
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Sarge wrote:

Anyone know how to strap it ( mod to boost output) ?


Hook Charlie Hugg's amp to it.

Any boost from the radio will only be noticed on YOUR meter.
The person on the other end will wonder why you sound like sh!t...


Hahahahaha!



Steveo December 22nd 03 11:51 PM

"Sarge" wrote:
"Radioman" wrote in message
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Sarge wrote:

Anyone know how to strap it ( mod to boost output) ?


Hook Charlie Hugg's amp to it.

Any boost from the radio will only be noticed on YOUR meter.
The person on the other end will wonder why you sound like sh!t...


Hahahahaha!

Why is that funny?

Steveo December 22nd 03 11:52 PM

"Sarge" wrote:
"Steveo" wrote in message
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"Sarge" wrote:
"CBM" wrote in message
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Live it alone, like was said , will not help on the receiving end,
if you need a difference use a amp.

got an amp but need to kick it harder. I have plenty recieve. Working

off
an inverted V.

How directional is it? ;)


figures out to be about 80% forward lobe.

Make sure you aim it, then.

Radioman December 23rd 03 12:02 AM

Anyone know how to strap it ( mod to boost output) ?
Any boost from the radio will only be noticed on YOUR meter.
The person on the other end will wonder why you sound like sh!t...

Hahahahaha!

Why is that funny?


It ain't a reddeo unless the meter swings wildly on AM.
(I must clip, remove that damn limiter...it's hurting me!
My reddeo is broke because it has a factory part in it.)

Steveo December 23rd 03 12:12 AM

Radioman wrote:
Anyone know how to strap it ( mod to boost output) ?
Any boost from the radio will only be noticed on YOUR meter.
The person on the other end will wonder why you sound like sh!t...
Hahahahaha!

Why is that funny?


It ain't a reddeo unless the meter swings wildly on AM.
(I must clip, remove that damn limiter...it's hurting me!
My reddeo is broke because it has a factory part in it.)

Put a 2 pill behind it, if you need a kick. Donut transmit
in your driveway. ;)

Radioman December 23rd 03 12:19 AM

Put a 2 pill behind it, if you need a kick. Donut transmit
in your driveway. ;)


Can I do donuts in your driveway?

Steveo December 23rd 03 12:21 AM

Radioman wrote:
Put a 2 pill behind it, if you need a kick. Donut transmit
in your driveway. ;)


Can I do donuts in your driveway?

Sure, just be careful to not fall in the creek.

Steveo December 23rd 03 02:57 AM

Steveo wrote:
How directional is it? ;)


figures out to be about 80% forward lobe.

Make sure you aim it, then.

A 3 element vertical with a rotor would be more efficient. But
a y quad or pdl 2 style beam would be better for dx/ local. Inverted
V will handle a kw, if it's tuned...so many choices.

Sarge December 23rd 03 04:43 AM


"Steveo" wrote in message
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laced wrote:
Steveo wrote in
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"Sarge" wrote:
"Steveo" wrote in message
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"Sarge" wrote:
"CBM" wrote in message
news:Dz4Fb.166133$_M.754572@attbi_s54...
Live it alone, like was said , will not help on the receiving
end, if you need a difference use a amp.

got an amp but need to kick it harder. I have plenty recieve.
Working
off
an inverted V.

How directional is it? ;)

figures out to be about 80% forward lobe.

Make sure you aim it, then.


great technical answer big guy.

Great technical question. 10-4?

Anyone know how to strap it ( mod to boost output) ?


and you would have worded the question, how? Back in the 60s thats what we
called it. This is the first one I've had since '68 or 69.



Sarge December 23rd 03 04:45 AM


"Steveo" wrote in message
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"Sarge" wrote:
"Radioman" wrote in message
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Sarge wrote:

Anyone know how to strap it ( mod to boost output) ?

Hook Charlie Hugg's amp to it.

Any boost from the radio will only be noticed on YOUR meter.
The person on the other end will wonder why you sound like sh!t...


Hahahahaha!

Why is that funny?

I'm wondering why you figure it will sound like sh*t for one. The other
thing was the reference to someones amp.



Steveo December 23rd 03 04:46 AM

"Sarge" wrote:
"Steveo" wrote in message
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laced wrote:
Steveo wrote in
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"Sarge" wrote:
"Steveo" wrote in message
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"Sarge" wrote:
"CBM" wrote in message
news:Dz4Fb.166133$_M.754572@attbi_s54...
Live it alone, like was said , will not help on the
receiving end, if you need a difference use a amp.

got an amp but need to kick it harder. I have plenty recieve.
Working
off
an inverted V.

How directional is it? ;)

figures out to be about 80% forward lobe.

Make sure you aim it, then.

great technical answer big guy.

Great technical question. 10-4?

Anyone know how to strap it ( mod to boost output) ?


and you would have worded the question, how? Back in the 60s thats what
we called it. This is the first one I've had since '68 or 69.

You laughed at the best advice..leave it alone.

Sarge December 23rd 03 04:49 AM


"Steveo" wrote in message
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Steveo wrote:
How directional is it? ;)

figures out to be about 80% forward lobe.

Make sure you aim it, then.

A 3 element vertical with a rotor would be more efficient. But
a y quad or pdl 2 style beam would be better for dx/ local. Inverted
V will handle a kw, if it's tuned...so many choices.


Don't want a beam for it. Going with an inverted V and NVIS. Only reason for
it is to communicate with the REACT folks who help out with our ham
emergency group and the EMC. And I might shoot some skip now and then, LOL!



Steveo December 23rd 03 04:50 AM

"Sarge" wrote:
"Steveo" wrote in message
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"Sarge" wrote:
"Radioman" wrote in message
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Sarge wrote:

Anyone know how to strap it ( mod to boost output) ?

Hook Charlie Hugg's amp to it.

Any boost from the radio will only be noticed on YOUR meter.
The person on the other end will wonder why you sound like sh!t...

Hahahahaha!

Why is that funny?


I'm wondering why you figure it will sound like sh*t for one.

That's been answered already, you'll only increase your splatter
with those snip jobs. Leave it alone.

Steveo December 23rd 03 04:51 AM

"Sarge" wrote:
"Steveo" wrote in message
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Steveo wrote:
How directional is it? ;)

figures out to be about 80% forward lobe.

Make sure you aim it, then.

A 3 element vertical with a rotor would be more efficient. But
a y quad or pdl 2 style beam would be better for dx/ local. Inverted
V will handle a kw, if it's tuned...so many choices.


Don't want a beam for it. Going with an inverted V and NVIS. Only reason
for it is to communicate with the REACT folks who help out with our ham
emergency group and the EMC. And I might shoot some skip now and then,
LOL!

Rock on, you alligator station! ;)

Landshark December 23rd 03 05:13 AM


"Steveo" wrote in message
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Steveo wrote:
aaron av2000.com wrote:
Steveo wrote in
news:20031222215731.123 :

Steveo wrote:
How directional is it? ;)

figures out to be about 80% forward lobe.

Make sure you aim it, then.

A 3 element vertical with a rotor would be more efficient. But
a y quad or pdl 2 style beam would be better for dx/ local. Inverted
V will handle a kw, if it's tuned...so many choices.


steve what type antenna do you use?

I have one of Jays ground plane's, and a y-quad.

..and some long wires.


Bet you mine is up higher g

Landshark


--
Hard things are put in our way,
not to stop us, but to call out our
courage and strength.



Landshark December 23rd 03 05:13 AM


"Steveo" wrote in message
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"Sarge" wrote:
"Steveo" wrote in message
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"Sarge" wrote:
"Radioman" wrote in message
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Sarge wrote:

Anyone know how to strap it ( mod to boost output) ?

Hook Charlie Hugg's amp to it.

Any boost from the radio will only be noticed on YOUR meter.
The person on the other end will wonder why you sound like sh!t...

Hahahahaha!

Why is that funny?


I'm wondering why you figure it will sound like sh*t for one.

That's been answered already, you'll only increase your splatter
with those snip jobs. Leave it alone.


He's right, cutting limiters only increase splatter.
You are better off getting a good antenna, proper
grounding and if needed a small good amp.

Landshark


--
Hard things are put in our way,
not to stop us, but to call out our
courage and strength.



Steveo December 23rd 03 05:19 AM

"Landshark" wrote:
"Steveo" wrote in message
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Steveo wrote:
aaron av2000.com wrote:
Steveo wrote in
news:20031222215731.123 :

Steveo wrote:
How directional is it? ;)

figures out to be about 80% forward lobe.

Make sure you aim it, then.

A 3 element vertical with a rotor would be more efficient. But
a y quad or pdl 2 style beam would be better for dx/ local.
Inverted V will handle a kw, if it's tuned...so many choices.


steve what type antenna do you use?

I have one of Jays ground plane's, and a y-quad.

..and some long wires.


Bet you mine is up higher g

Landshark

I'll keep my pennies in my pocket. Bet I've tried more angles
than you!

Landshark December 23rd 03 05:38 AM


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Bet you mine is up higher g

Landshark

I'll keep my pennies in my pocket. Bet I've tried more angles
than you!


Maybe, but my antenna we just put up the tree,
118', now that's up there.

Landshark


--
Hard things are put in our way,
not to stop us, but to call out our
courage and strength.



Steveo December 23rd 03 05:57 AM

"Landshark" wrote:
"Steveo" wrote in message
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Bet you mine is up higher g

Landshark

I'll keep my pennies in my pocket. Bet I've tried more angles
than you!


Maybe, but my antenna we just put up the tree,
118', now that's up there.

Landshark

Wrist rocket?

Landshark December 23rd 03 06:02 AM


"Steveo" wrote in message
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"Landshark" wrote:
"Steveo" wrote in message
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Bet you mine is up higher g

Landshark

I'll keep my pennies in my pocket. Bet I've tried more angles
than you!


Maybe, but my antenna we just put up the tree,
118', now that's up there.

Landshark

Wrist rocket?


Nope, had a friend that trims tree's
for a living, put on the tree spikes, climb
the tree. Had an Army bigstick on a 10'
mast above the tree, works pretty good
barefoot, you should hear it with the
power on g

Landshark


--
Hard things are put in our way,
not to stop us, but to call out our
courage and strength.



Steveo December 23rd 03 06:09 AM

"Landshark" wrote:
"Steveo" wrote in message
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"Landshark" wrote:
"Steveo" wrote in message
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Bet you mine is up higher g

Landshark

I'll keep my pennies in my pocket. Bet I've tried more angles
than you!

Maybe, but my antenna we just put up the tree,
118', now that's up there.

Landshark

Wrist rocket?


Nope, had a friend that trims tree's
for a living, put on the tree spikes, climb
the tree. Had an Army bigstick on a 10'
mast above the tree, works pretty good
barefoot, you should hear it with the
power on g

Landshark

118 feet is way up there. You better be careful to not
fry that tree-stick with power, it's a bitch to replace. ;)

I fried 2 of them, before I realized they're not built for that.

Lucky for me they weren't in a tree. g

Ever wrist rocket a long wire leader?

Landshark December 23rd 03 02:34 PM


"Steveo" wrote in message
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" Maybe, but my antenna we just put up the tree,
118', now that's up there.

Landshark

Wrist rocket?


Nope, had a friend that trims tree's
for a living, put on the tree spikes, climb
the tree. Had an Army bigstick on a 10'
mast above the tree, works pretty good
barefoot, you should hear it with the
power on g

Landshark

118 feet is way up there. You better be careful to not
fry that tree-stick with power, it's a bitch to replace. ;)

I fried 2 of them, before I realized they're not built for that.

Lucky for me they weren't in a tree. g


Nope there not, but if I do run any power it's not more
than a couple hundred. No need to run more than that
at home IMO, especially since the antenna so high up.

Ever wrist rocket a long wire leader?


LOL!! Nope, I've heard of that, but never seen it
done. I do know of someone that did a type of
mortar thing that shot some wire up once, that
was a long time ago though.

Landshark


--
Hard things are put in our way,
not to stop us, but to call out our
courage and strength.



Sarge December 23rd 03 09:26 PM

Steveo wrote:
"Sarge" wrote:
"Steveo" wrote in message
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"Sarge" wrote:
"Radioman" wrote in message
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Sarge wrote:

Anyone know how to strap it ( mod to boost output) ?

Hook Charlie Hugg's amp to it.

Any boost from the radio will only be noticed on YOUR meter.
The person on the other end will wonder why you sound like sh!t...

Hahahahaha!
Why is that funny?


I'm wondering why you figure it will sound like sh*t for one.

That's been answered already, you'll only increase your splatter
with those snip jobs. Leave it alone.


Hmm, I think we're not quite on the same trail. All I need is about 10 watts
to kick the amp properly. I don't like the idea of cutting the limiter
myself, however, I'm betting a small change to get 8 or 10 watts out of it
would not cause splatter. Maybe I'll just swap out the finals in the thing
and see if the rig can drive 'em.
I do understand what you were saying about splatter and I hate hearing that
on air too. Thanks, Steveo.



Sarge December 23rd 03 09:28 PM

Steveo wrote:
"Sarge" wrote:
"Steveo" wrote in message
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Steveo wrote:
How directional is it? ;)

figures out to be about 80% forward lobe.
Make sure you aim it, then.

A 3 element vertical with a rotor would be more efficient. But
a y quad or pdl 2 style beam would be better for dx/ local. Inverted
V will handle a kw, if it's tuned...so many choices.


Don't want a beam for it. Going with an inverted V and NVIS. Only
reason for it is to communicate with the REACT folks who help out
with our ham emergency group and the EMC. And I might shoot some
skip now and then, LOL!

Rock on, you alligator station! ;)


Hahahahaha! Will do...



Sarge December 23rd 03 09:31 PM

Steveo wrote:
"Landshark" wrote:
"Steveo" wrote in message
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Bet you mine is up higher g

Landshark

I'll keep my pennies in my pocket. Bet I've tried more angles
than you!


Maybe, but my antenna we just put up the tree,
118', now that's up there.

Landshark

Wrist rocket?


Shoulder mounted SAM ? Good gawd, that is up there !!



Landshark December 24th 03 02:13 AM


"Sarge" wrote in message ...
Steveo wrote:
"Landshark" wrote:
"Steveo" wrote in message
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Bet you mine is up higher g

Landshark

I'll keep my pennies in my pocket. Bet I've tried more angles
than you!

Maybe, but my antenna we just put up the tree,
118', now that's up there.

Landshark

Wrist rocket?


Shoulder mounted SAM ? Good gawd, that is up there !!


LMAO!!! You would have to have a
heck of a lot of wire for that set up.

Landshark


--
Merry Christmas & Happy New Year to All



Dr. Death December 24th 03 08:04 AM

if you hook up an oscilloscope and do a before and after test you will see
with your own eyes that clipping the limiter will cause splattery modulation

--
visit http://www.geocities.com/linearschematics/



"Steveo" wrote in message
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"Sarge" wrote:
"Steveo" wrote in message
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"Sarge" wrote:
"Radioman" wrote in message
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Sarge wrote:

Anyone know how to strap it ( mod to boost output) ?

Hook Charlie Hugg's amp to it.

Any boost from the radio will only be noticed on YOUR meter.
The person on the other end will wonder why you sound like sh!t...

Hahahahaha!

Why is that funny?


I'm wondering why you figure it will sound like sh*t for one.

That's been answered already, you'll only increase your splatter
with those snip jobs. Leave it alone.




Dr. Death December 24th 03 08:14 AM

Removing the ALC limiter will cause distortion
There are other ways to increase output WITHOUT causing distortion
If you do not have or know how to use an oscilloscope then you need to have
a professional do the work
--
visit http://www.geocities.com/linearschematics/



"Sarge" wrote in message
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"siroblivion." wrote in message
m...

"Sarge" wrote in message
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Anyone know how to strap it ( mod to boost output) ?


Remove ALC - Part # R-132


thank you, sir. Any idea what increase you get?





Sarge December 24th 03 11:04 PM


"Dr. Death" wrote in message
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if you hook up an oscilloscope and do a before and after test you will see
with your own eyes that clipping the limiter will cause splattery

modulation
No, had no intention of clipping the limiter. There are other ways.
Thanks for the link. Got a homebrew amp but it takes 10 to 50 watts to kick
it. If I can't do it, thats fine, I'll just use the ol Cobra as is.



Sarge December 24th 03 11:07 PM


"Dr. Death" wrote in message
...
Removing the ALC limiter will cause distortion
There are other ways to increase output WITHOUT causing distortion
If you do not have or know how to use an oscilloscope then you need to

have
a professional do the work
--
visit http://www.geocities.com/linearschematics/


My buddy has one . He's gonna bring it over Fri. and I have some parts we're
gonna try in it. Got the antennas up and coverage is pretty darn good
already. But, boys must tinker with things. LOL!




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