Looking for 15-20mile handheld CB radio...
 

Hi...

I am looking for a way to communicate with my wife while I am out doing
errands.

Looking for something hand held with a range of 15-20miles that would either
have no license or a small licensing requirement from the FCC.

Looking for something without a monthly fee also :)

Any suggestions?

Thank you!

Reo wrote:
Hi...

I am looking for a way to communicate with my wife while I am out
doing errands.

Looking for something hand held with a range of 15-20miles that would
either have no license or a small licensing requirement from the FCC.

Looking for something without a monthly fee also :)

Any suggestions?

Thank you!

The ONLY thing I can see is you and wife both get your amateur Tech.
licenses. Then you could work through a repeater ( assuming there is one
near y'all) and be pretty reliable. A CB , FRS or GMRS handheld is just not
gonna cut it. Only other way is the cell phone thing but there goes that
monthly fee.

Anyone else got any ideas?

"Sarge" wrote in message
...
Reo wrote:
The ONLY thing I can see is you and wife both get your amateur Tech.
licenses. Then you could work through a repeater ( assuming there is one
near y'all) and be pretty reliable. A CB , FRS or GMRS handheld is just
not
gonna cut it. Only other way is the cell phone thing but there goes that
monthly fee.


What kind of equipment would we need to be able to do this? Also... Where
can I find information on the licensing?

Thanks!

A pair of ICOM IC-V8000's or IC-2100H's for the mobiles, and one for
the house, a couple of antennas for the mobiles and one for the
house.. total investment of around $600.

http://www.qrz.com .. Check the column on the left hand side of the
screen for VE sessions (testing Volunteer Examiners), practice tests,
places to find study manuals, etc.

HTH

73 de SSB

Reo wrote:
"Sarge" wrote in message
...

Reo wrote:
The ONLY thing I can see is you and wife both get your amateur Tech.
licenses. Then you could work through a repeater ( assuming there is one
near y'all) and be pretty reliable. A CB , FRS or GMRS handheld is just

not

gonna cut it. Only other way is the cell phone thing but there goes that
monthly fee.



What kind of equipment would we need to be able to do this? Also... Where
can I find information on the licensing?

Thanks!

I should add that TexasTowers ( http://www.texastowers.com ) generally
has the best prices on radios, but you can also check with R and L (
http://www.randl.com ) for great prices on these rigs.

Lakeview Antenna ( http://www.hamstick.com ) has a couple of great
options for 2 meter mobile and base antennas.

You'll also want to look for local Amateur clubs to find out more
about the repeaters available in your area. QRZ can help you with that
as well.

73 de SSB

sideband wrote:

A pair of ICOM IC-V8000's or IC-2100H's for the mobiles, and one for the
house, a couple of antennas for the mobiles and one for the house..
total investment of around $600.

http://www.qrz.com .. Check the column on the left hand side of the
screen for VE sessions (testing Volunteer Examiners), practice tests,
places to find study manuals, etc.

HTH

73 de SSB

Reo wrote:

"Sarge" wrote in message
...

Reo wrote:
The ONLY thing I can see is you and wife both get your amateur Tech.
licenses. Then you could work through a repeater ( assuming there is one
near y'all) and be pretty reliable. A CB , FRS or GMRS handheld is just


not

gonna cut it. Only other way is the cell phone thing but there goes that
monthly fee.




What kind of equipment would we need to be able to do this? Also...
Where
can I find information on the licensing?

Thanks!

On Tue, 23 Dec 2003 13:14:43 -0800, "Reo"
wrote:

Hi...

I am looking for a way to communicate with my wife while I am out doing
errands.

Looking for something hand held with a range of 15-20miles that would either
have no license or a small licensing requirement from the FCC.

Looking for something without a monthly fee also :)

Any suggestions?

Thank you!


What you're looking for isn't available.
Raymond Sirois KAXN-9546
SysOp: The Lost Chord BBS
607-733-5745
telnet://thelostchord.dns2go.com:6000

WHY do you want it hand held? Are you going to MAINLY use it walking
around with it, or in a vehicle? IF you are wanting to use it walking
around with it, 2 meter ham is it. If you want it in vehicles or
house, then CB will be cheaper.
Dave!


On Tue, 23 Dec 2003 13:14:43 -0800, "Reo"
wrote:

Hi...

I am looking for a way to communicate with my wife while I am out doing
errands.

Looking for something hand held with a range of 15-20miles that would either
have no license or a small licensing requirement from the FCC.

Looking for something without a monthly fee also :)

Any suggestions?

Thank you!




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From: (Sarge)
Reo wrote:
Hi...
I am looking for a way to communicate with my wife while I am out doing
errands.
Looking for something hand held with a range of 15-20miles that would
either have no license or a small licensing requirement from the FCC.
Looking for something without a monthly fee also :)
Any suggestions?
Thank you!

The ONLY thing I can see is you and wife both
get your amateur Tech. licenses. Then you

could work through a repeater ( assuming

there is one near y'all) and be pretty reliable. A
CB , FRS or GMRS handheld is just not gonna
cut it. Only other way is the cell phone thing

but there goes that monthly fee.

Anyone else got any ideas?

Couple of 10 meter radios coverted with a couple of low power linears
will do the job perfectly. You get quiet frequencies on the freeband and
at times won't even need the linear. **** on the repeaters, not enough
privacy for what you want.

Sure there is Ray,,,,you never saw a handheld hooked up to a linear?

Twist,

He mentioned 'handheld'. He didn't say 'radio in a vehicle'. I suspect
trying to walk around with a handheld, a linear amp, and four Sears
Die-Hards in a backpack might prove uncomfortable :)

15 to 20 miles is going to be *very* tough, unless one of the handhelds is
located up four or five hundred feet in the air. The antenna and ground
system (or, rather, lack thereof) is going to doom any 27 MHz handheld.
MURS would have a good chance, as long as one of those units is up hundreds
of feet in the air. FRS is unlikely to have the erp to make the distance
(certainly not a reliable job) even if one of the handhelds was up 400 or
500 feet in the air. About the only choice I see is a tech license and
using a repeater. The key here is 'handheld'. However, if Sarge is willing
to use a radio in a car, things change a bit. MURS would likely make 15
miles with a decent antenna and tower at the base and a decent 5/8 wave
antenna on the car.


73 from Rochester, NY
Jim


"Twistedhed" wrote in message
...
From: (Sarge)
Reo wrote:
Hi...
I am looking for a way to communicate with my wife while I am out doing
errands.
Looking for something hand held with a range of 15-20miles that would
either have no license or a small licensing requirement from the FCC.
Looking for something without a monthly fee also :)
Any suggestions?
Thank you!

The ONLY thing I can see is you and wife both
get your amateur Tech. licenses. Then you

could work through a repeater ( assuming

there is one near y'all) and be pretty reliable. A
CB , FRS or GMRS handheld is just not gonna
cut it. Only other way is the cell phone thing

but there goes that monthly fee.

Anyone else got any ideas?

Couple of 10 meter radios coverted with a couple of low power linears
will do the job perfectly. You get quiet frequencies on the freeband and
at times won't even need the linear. **** on the repeaters, not enough
privacy for what you want.



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You can get a pair of communicators that are good from ship to surface.
We use them all the time on landing parties.
They work very well.

Good Luck,
James Kirk
=============

Twistedhed wrote:

From: (Sarge)
Reo wrote:
Hi...
I am looking for a way to communicate with my wife while I am out doing
errands.
Looking for something hand held with a range of 15-20miles that would
either have no license or a small licensing requirement from the FCC.
Looking for something without a monthly fee also :)
Any suggestions?
Thank you!

The ONLY thing I can see is you and wife both
get your amateur Tech. licenses. Then you

could work through a repeater ( assuming

there is one near y'all) and be pretty reliable. A
CB , FRS or GMRS handheld is just not gonna
cut it. Only other way is the cell phone thing

but there goes that monthly fee.

Anyone else got any ideas?

Couple of 10 meter radios coverted with a couple of low power linears
will do the job perfectly. You get quiet frequencies on the freeband and
at times won't even need the linear. **** on the repeaters, not enough
privacy for what you want.

On Thu, 1 Jan 2004 11:03:41 -0500 (EST),
(Twistedhed) wrote:

Sure there is Ray,,,,you never saw a handheld hooked up to a linear?

Well... I've got a 90 watt amp here that I can use on my handheld,
but that tends to cut down on the mobility factor just at LEETLE bit
Raymond Sirois KAXN-9546
SysOp: The Lost Chord BBS
607-733-5745
telnet://thelostchord.dns2go.com:6000

On Fri, 02 Jan 2004 05:05:25 GMT, KAXN-9546 wrote:

On Thu, 1 Jan 2004 11:03:41 -0500 (EST),
(Twistedhed) wrote:

Sure there is Ray,,,,you never saw a handheld hooked up to a linear?

Well... I've got a 90 watt amp here that I can use on my handheld,
but that tends to cut down on the mobility factor just at LEETLE bit
Raymond Sirois KAXN-9546
SysOp: The Lost Chord BBS
607-733-5745
telnet://thelostchord.dns2go.com:6000

Ooop. Sorry.. 90 watt amp is for 2-meter... No amp here for
27MHz... Regardless... 15-20 mile range HT to HT is NOT going to
happen under "real world" conditions. Closest one could get is the
PTT feature offered on the newer generations of cell phones. And even
THEN, you're looking a difficulties regarding coverage areas,
operations inside of structures with large amounts of metal, etc...


Raymond Sirois KAXN-9546
SysOp: The Lost Chord BBS
607-733-5745
telnet://thelostchord.dns2go.com:6000

From: (Jim=A0Hampton)
Twist,

He mentioned 'handheld'. He didn't say 'radio

in a vehicle'. I suspect trying to walk around

with a handheld, a linear amp, and four Sears

Die-Hards in a backpack might prove

uncomfortable :)



My bad! My only excuse is being road weary..I missed the "handheld" the
first time around until I came to Raymond's post, and I certainly
assumed he was longing for mobile use as oposed to something truly
portable.


15 to 20 miles is going to be *very* tough,

unless one of the handhelds is located up four
or five hundred feet in the air. The antenna

and ground system (or, rather, lack thereof) is

going to doom any 27 MHz handheld. MURS

would have a good chance, as long as one of

those units is up hundreds of feet in the air.

FRS is unlikely to have the erp to make the

distance (certainly not a reliable job) even if

one of the handhelds was up 400 or 500 feet

in the air. About the only choice I see is a tech
license and using a repeater. The key here is

'handheld'. However, if Sarge is willing to use

a radio in a car, things change a bit. MURS

would likely make 15 miles with a decent

antenna and tower at the base and a decent

5/8 wave antenna on the car.

73 from Rochester, NY

Jim


Agreed. As you astutely illustrated, I was thinking along the lines of a
half-decent (*?*) handheld attached to a decent mobile antenna with a
tiny bit of juice,,,my bad was interpreting portable as mobile,,,,not
the same thing.

From: (James=A0T.=A0Kirk)
You can get a pair of communicators that are good from ship to surface.
We use them all the time on landing parties. They work very well.
Good Luck,
James Kirk
_

My "communicators" are unsurpassed and time-proven over the years. They
give flawless performance. I point to my group of followers as
testament. My crew of followers is not capable of having their minds
enlightened, Captain Kirk,... something you picked up on.

From: (KAXN-9546)
On Thu, 1 Jan 2004 11:03:41 -0500 (EST),
(Twistedhed) wrote:
Sure there is Ray,,,,you never saw a handheld hooked up to a linear?
Well... I've got a 90 watt amp here that I can use on my handheld, but
that tends to cut down on the mobility factor just at LEETLE bit Raymond
Sirois KAXN-9546
SysOp: The Lost Chord BBS
607-733-5745
telnet://thelostchord.dns2go.com:6000
_
LOL..yea,,,,I'm in the digestion mode now, Ray. Happy New Year.

Steveo wrote in message ...
(Twistedhed) wrote:
From: (James=A0T.=A0Kirk)
You can get a pair of communicators that are good from ship to surface.
We use them all the time on landing parties. They work very well.
Good Luck,
James Kirk
_

My "communicators" are unsurpassed and time-proven over the years. They
give flawless performance. I point to my group of followers as
testament. My crew of followers is not capable of having their minds
enlightened, Captain Kirk,... something you picked up on.

Do they go to Uranus and wipe out cling on's? G

Steveo you are useless you add nothing of value.

That's the opinion of an asshole, I'll file it accordingly.

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