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Lancer January 14th 04 03:48 PM

On 14 Jan 2004 15:35:38 GMT, Steveo
wrote:

Lancer wrote:
On 14 Jan 2004 15:27:22 GMT, Steveo
wrote:

Lancer wrote:
On 14 Jan 2004 15:11:14 GMT, Steveo
wrote:

Lancer wrote:
On 14 Jan 2004 14:51:03 GMT, Steveo
wrote:

"Landshark" wrote:
"Steveo" wrote in message
...
"Landshark" wrote:
"Steveo" wrote in message
...
Like Lancer said, great for Crappie, one of the best
tasting
fish I've ever caught.

Yellow fin Tuna, great fight, great taste.

Landshark

Must be a big ole cane pole!

Nah, that's for really old men ;-)

Landshark

I've had a 10 foot cane pole for years, great for pan fish.

Time for a new pole? I have some bamboo in my yard thats over 20
feet tall.

Hard to fit in the truck! ;)

Is it cold enough for Ice Fishing were you are? Great way to crappie
fish, after a few Tom and Jerry's.

No safe ice yet. It'a also a great way to catch Walleye and Perch
if Lake Erie freezes up tight enough.


Thought you weren't supposed to eat fish from Erie?

I've been eating it for years. Lake Erie isn't the sewer it
used to be. It's known as the Walleye capitol of the world.

Been awhile since I have had fresh walleye, you can ship any extras
you may have down to me..

We'll see. You don't have a freshwater fish market near you?


No really, you would think since we are so close to the coast that
seafood would be cheap here. The only thing that is cheap is catfish,
or tilapia (grass carp). I prefer crappies or sunfish, or even bass
if its done right.

Twistedhed January 14th 04 04:29 PM

From: (Lancer)
On Tue, 13 Jan 2004 18:01:01 -0500 (EST),

(Twistedhed) wrote:
From:
(Lancer)
On Tue, 13 Jan 2004 13:45:01 -0500, "Jerry Oxendine"
wrote:
"Steveo" wrote in message
... "Jerry Oxendine"
wrote: "Steveo"
wrote in message ...
(Yes, but not extensively. Most of my fishin' is done on the Catawba
River with a cane pole and a cork! I catch a few cats now and
then....................... Jerry )
_
Great way to fish for Crappie, really exciting if


you get a "pike" on one.


No Pike in the southland.

No, but we do have pretty good bass fishing.


For sure.

Not sure I'd want to get a big striper on a cane
pole.



*SNAP*


Twistedhed January 14th 04 04:33 PM

Lancer@web wrote:
Time for a new pole? I have some bamboo in


my yard thats over 20 feet tall.


I know someone that lives on a river and grows that stuff....sells it
only on the weekends and one Monday a month at flea markets. Guess he
makes great cash at it,,,those lots begin at 100G with no home on
it,,add the house and you're looking at 150 and up, easily.


Lancer January 14th 04 11:06 PM

On Wed, 14 Jan 2004 11:33:58 -0500 (EST),
(Twistedhed) wrote:

Lancer@web wrote:
Time for a new pole? I have some bamboo in


my yard thats over 20 feet tall.


I know someone that lives on a river and grows that stuff....sells it
only on the weekends and one Monday a month at flea markets. Guess he
makes great cash at it,,,those lots begin at 100G with no home on
it,,add the house and you're looking at 150 and up, easily.


Damn stuff grows like a weed here. You have to pour gas on it to
kill the roots.

Twistedhed January 15th 04 08:30 PM

Lancer@web said:
No really, you would think since we are so


close to the coast that seafood would be


cheap here. The only thing that is cheap is


catfish, or tilapia (grass carp). I prefer crappies
or sunfish, or even bass if its done right.



No doubt. The grouper are being caught daily, and plenty of
them,,,inshore and out, but the damn restaurants are raping the
tourists, now that the season is in full swing. Plenty of charters
selling out and new blood taking their place....oldtimers are going out
once a day instead of twice and making more than they ever did,
by.......selling to the restaurants. Even the restaurants with their own
boats can't keep up with the demand right now.


gw January 16th 04 01:03 AM

"Jerry Oxendine" wrote in message .. .
"gw" wrote in message
om...
"Jerry Oxendine" wrote in message

.. .
"Dennis12Amplify" wrote in message
...
I can't believe this message board is still 'haunted' by the same few

bad
apples after so much time has gone by............

I just read the last 10 or 15 days of postings, and this news group

is as
bad
or worse than when I left it.

Well, for the old timers out there; an update:

I retired from Lucent after 37 years (to avoid being laid off and to

'lock-in'
my retirement medical benefits before they reduced the retiree health

plan
options again).

I finally had time to do some travelling and went to Sturgis for the

first
time this year. Aside from Stugis, I have been spending most of my

time
fishing
and just riding my motorcycles; neither of which I can do in this COLD

weather
which is why I decided to check in on the old newsgroup again.

To supplement my income I have been doing contract engineering for a

medical
electronics place. Since I get paid by the finished job, I can come

and
go as
I please with no set schedule, and I really like that.

Hope you all had a Merry Christmas and a Happy and Healthy New Year!

Regards,

Dennis W. Ostrowski
#12

\
Dennis,

I don't know if you would remember me, but I just wanted to say welcome

to
retirement! It's FUN, ain't it!!
Like you, I kinda got forced out in 2000, and looked upon the future

with
dread. I worked all my life from the
age of 15 and couldn't envision not having a job to go to
or a "clock" to punch. I discovered a couple of things:
1) I am more busy than EVER, and (2 it is nice to get up in the morning

and
have to option of doing or not
doing. I can get up in the AM, make a pot of coffee, and
go downstairs and tinker in my radio shack/shop, if the
weather is bad (snow, ice, rain), I don't have to go out in it. No

traffic
to fight, no wear and tear on my car commuting.

The downside is that everyone now says, "OH! You can
do this little "favor" for me." or "How 'bout doing...........
you're retired and have nothing to do". Boy, ain't that a joke!

There's
ALWAYS something to do.

But right now, I think I'll run up to a friend's shop and go to lunch!

73


Jerry



retired kind of early didn't ya jerry???


Yes, I did! I didn't want to, but it worked out that way. I got "downsized"
and squeezed out by a huge corporation.
But, I am still fortunate. How many people can make
xx number of dollars while working, then go home and
make as much or more? Plus no commute.
How's that go on the McDonalds commercial? I'm LOVIN' it!!!!!


Jerry



you got downsized?? hmmm...what exactly did you do jerry, before you
retired if you don't mind talking about it.....sounds
exciting.........

gw January 16th 04 01:05 AM

Steveo wrote in message ...
(gw) wrote:
just checking...i want to write it down in my big chief
notepad with my number 2 pencil.........

lmao!


stevo, stevo and more stevo...working that baby driver in the mistake
by the lake and i jus got down..........hey stevo if you lived by
jerry, would you key on him????

gw January 16th 04 01:08 AM

jim wrote in message ...
Dennis12Amplify wrote:
I can't believe this message board is still 'haunted' by the same few bad
apples after so much time has gone by............

I just read the last 10 or 15 days of postings, and this news group is as bad
or worse than when I left it.

Well, for the old timers out there; an update:

I retired from Lucent after 37 years (to avoid being laid off and to 'lock-in'
my retirement medical benefits before they reduced the retiree health plan
options again).

I finally had time to do some travelling and went to Sturgis for the first
time this year. Aside from Stugis, I have been spending most of my time fishing
and just riding my motorcycles; neither of which I can do in this COLD weather
which is why I decided to check in on the old newsgroup again.

To supplement my income I have been doing contract engineering for a medical
electronics place. Since I get paid by the finished job, I can come and go as
I please with no set schedule, and I really like that.

Hope you all had a Merry Christmas and a Happy and Healthy New Year!

Regards,

Dennis W. Ostrowski
#12


we just hired an ex lucent fiber optic equipment installer. they made a
mistake letting him go. good to see you kept the bennies... 73



jim how do they make connections on that fibre optic stuff......is heat involved???

Steveo January 16th 04 12:09 PM

(gw) wrote:
Steveo wrote in message
...
(gw) wrote:
just checking...i want to write it down in my big chief
notepad with my number 2 pencil.........

lmao!


stevo, stevo and more stevo...working that baby driver in the mistake
by the lake and i jus got down..........hey stevo if you lived by
jerry, would you key on him????

Nah, if I lived by Jerry we'd of gone fishing and had a few
cold malted beverages by now.

He wouldn't let me tell which freeband frequency was our
meeting place tho. ;)

Lancer January 16th 04 01:08 PM

On Thu, 15 Jan 2004 15:30:19 -0500 (EST),
(Twistedhed) wrote:

Lancer@web said:
No really, you would think since we are so


close to the coast that seafood would be


cheap here. The only thing that is cheap is


catfish, or tilapia (grass carp). I prefer crappies
or sunfish, or even bass if its done right.



No doubt. The grouper are being caught daily, and plenty of
them,,,inshore and out, but the damn restaurants are raping the
tourists, now that the season is in full swing. Plenty of charters
selling out and new blood taking their place....oldtimers are going out
once a day instead of twice and making more than they ever did,
by.......selling to the restaurants. Even the restaurants with their own
boats can't keep up with the demand right now.


Yeah, same thing going on in the stores around here. Demand for fresh
seafood is high around this area, so the stores pretty much charge
what they want. The only real good deals you get are if you meet the
shrimp boats when they come in and buy right off the boat.

Steveo January 16th 04 01:26 PM

Lancer wrote:
On Thu, 15 Jan 2004 15:30:19 -0500 (EST),
(Twistedhed) wrote:

Lancer@web said:
No really, you would think since we are so


close to the coast that seafood would be


cheap here. The only thing that is cheap is


catfish, or tilapia (grass carp). I prefer crappies
or sunfish, or even bass if its done right.



No doubt. The grouper are being caught daily, and plenty of
them,,,inshore and out, but the damn restaurants are raping the
tourists, now that the season is in full swing. Plenty of charters
selling out and new blood taking their place....oldtimers are going out
once a day instead of twice and making more than they ever did,
by.......selling to the restaurants. Even the restaurants with their own
boats can't keep up with the demand right now.


Yeah, same thing going on in the stores around here. Demand for fresh
seafood is high around this area, so the stores pretty much charge
what they want. The only real good deals you get are if you meet the
shrimp boats when they come in and buy right off the boat.

Well you wouldn't want to buy fresh Walleye here then. It goes
for about $10/pound, here on the south shore of Erie.

Commercial fishing for Walleye is illegal in the USA. The fish
you might find at the market come out of Canada. Those assholes
rape the lake with friggin 4 inch gill nets. If you take a boat
ride from the south side of the lake to the north (Ohio to Canada),
it's
-real- easy to tell when you've arrived in Canadian waters.

Nets are everywhere between thaw and ice up. That and the Zebra
Mussel have made more than a few charter captains go out of
business in the last 5 or so years.

Lancer January 16th 04 01:39 PM

On 16 Jan 2004 13:26:15 GMT, Steveo
wrote:

Lancer wrote:
On Thu, 15 Jan 2004 15:30:19 -0500 (EST),
(Twistedhed) wrote:

Lancer@web said:
No really, you would think since we are so

close to the coast that seafood would be

cheap here. The only thing that is cheap is

catfish, or tilapia (grass carp). I prefer crappies
or sunfish, or even bass if its done right.


No doubt. The grouper are being caught daily, and plenty of
them,,,inshore and out, but the damn restaurants are raping the
tourists, now that the season is in full swing. Plenty of charters
selling out and new blood taking their place....oldtimers are going out
once a day instead of twice and making more than they ever did,
by.......selling to the restaurants. Even the restaurants with their own
boats can't keep up with the demand right now.


Yeah, same thing going on in the stores around here. Demand for fresh
seafood is high around this area, so the stores pretty much charge
what they want. The only real good deals you get are if you meet the
shrimp boats when they come in and buy right off the boat.

Well you wouldn't want to buy fresh Walleye here then. It goes
for about $10/pound, here on the south shore of Erie.

Commercial fishing for Walleye is illegal in the USA. The fish
you might find at the market come out of Canada. Those assholes
rape the lake with friggin 4 inch gill nets. If you take a boat
ride from the south side of the lake to the north (Ohio to Canada),
it's
-real- easy to tell when you've arrived in Canadian waters.

Nets are everywhere between thaw and ice up. That and the Zebra
Mussel have made more than a few charter captains go out of
business in the last 5 or so years.


$10.00 for any decent fish is pretty much the norm here. They
want to import all their fish from New Zealand and Australia rather
than sell gulf fish. You can't find amber jack, snapper, but all
kinds of imported white roughy.

I didn't think that the U.S. allowed game fish to be imported. I
thought the Walleye and others that were sold were farm raised?

Steveo January 16th 04 02:14 PM

Lancer wrote:
On 16 Jan 2004 13:26:15 GMT, Steveo
wrote:

Lancer wrote:
On Thu, 15 Jan 2004 15:30:19 -0500 (EST),
(Twistedhed) wrote:

Lancer@web said:
No really, you would think since we are so

close to the coast that seafood would be

cheap here. The only thing that is cheap is

catfish, or tilapia (grass carp). I prefer crappies
or sunfish, or even bass if its done right.


No doubt. The grouper are being caught daily, and plenty of
them,,,inshore and out, but the damn restaurants are raping the
tourists, now that the season is in full swing. Plenty of charters
selling out and new blood taking their place....oldtimers are going
out once a day instead of twice and making more than they ever did,
by.......selling to the restaurants. Even the restaurants with their
own boats can't keep up with the demand right now.

Yeah, same thing going on in the stores around here. Demand for fresh
seafood is high around this area, so the stores pretty much charge
what they want. The only real good deals you get are if you meet the
shrimp boats when they come in and buy right off the boat.

Well you wouldn't want to buy fresh Walleye here then. It goes
for about $10/pound, here on the south shore of Erie.

Commercial fishing for Walleye is illegal in the USA. The fish
you might find at the market come out of Canada. Those assholes
rape the lake with friggin 4 inch gill nets. If you take a boat
ride from the south side of the lake to the north (Ohio to Canada),
it's
-real- easy to tell when you've arrived in Canadian waters.

Nets are everywhere between thaw and ice up. That and the Zebra
Mussel have made more than a few charter captains go out of
business in the last 5 or so years.


$10.00 for any decent fish is pretty much the norm here. They
want to import all their fish from New Zealand and Australia rather
than sell gulf fish. You can't find amber jack, snapper, but all
kinds of imported white roughy.

I didn't think that the U.S. allowed game fish to be imported. I
thought the Walleye and others that were sold were farm raised?

That's catfish, retail Lake Erie Walleye come from Canada. It's
even illegal to sell Walleye that you catch on a line in the US.

I hope it stays that way too!

Landshark January 16th 04 02:45 PM


"Steveo" wrote in message
...
Lancer wrote:
On 16 Jan 2004 13:26:15 GMT, Steveo moparholic@hotmail-

Lancer@web said:

I didn't think that the U.S. allowed game fish to be imported. I
thought the Walleye and others that were sold were farm raised?

That's catfish, retail Lake Erie Walleye come from Canada. It's
even illegal to sell Walleye that you catch on a line in the US.

I hope it stays that way too!


Man they farm raise all sorts fish
now a days.

Landshark


--
Real heroes are men who fall and fail
and are flawed, but win out in the end
because they've stayed true to their
ideals and beliefs and commitments.



Lancer January 16th 04 03:22 PM

On Fri, 16 Jan 2004 14:45:04 GMT, "Landshark"
wrote:


"Steveo" wrote in message
...
Lancer wrote:
On 16 Jan 2004 13:26:15 GMT, Steveo moparholic@hotmail-

Lancer@web said:

I didn't think that the U.S. allowed game fish to be imported. I
thought the Walleye and others that were sold were farm raised?

That's catfish, retail Lake Erie Walleye come from Canada. It's
even illegal to sell Walleye that you catch on a line in the US.

I hope it stays that way too!


Man they farm raise all sorts fish
now a days.

Landshark


Best one I have seen are the sea turtle farms in the Caymans. Ever
have a turtle burger?

Steveo January 16th 04 03:32 PM

Lancer wrote:
On Fri, 16 Jan 2004 14:45:04 GMT, "Landshark"
wrote:


"Steveo" wrote in message
...
Lancer wrote:
On 16 Jan 2004 13:26:15 GMT, Steveo moparholic@hotmail-
Lancer@web said:

I didn't think that the U.S. allowed game fish to be imported.
I thought the Walleye and others that were sold were farm raised?

That's catfish, retail Lake Erie Walleye come from Canada. It's
even illegal to sell Walleye that you catch on a line in the US.

I hope it stays that way too!


Man they farm raise all sorts fish
now a days.

Landshark


Best one I have seen are the sea turtle farms in the Caymans. Ever
have a turtle burger?

My buddy puts on a turtle fry. Those hard shelled *******s
have 5 different tasting meats in them. His wife cooks most
of it like city chicken.

I don't like the 'cleansing' process. He puts them in a rubber
garbage can for a week with no water or food, claims it 'cleans
them out from the earthy taste.

I told him thats friggin cruel. I still eat it tho.

Twistedhed January 16th 04 03:57 PM

Lancer@webrock wrote:
Yeah, same thing going on in the stores


around here. Demand for fresh seafood is


high around this area, so the stores pretty


much charge what they want. The only real


good deals you get are if you meet the shrimp


boats when they come in and buy right off the


boat.






If boats are selling seafood without the proper licensing here and they
get popped, chances are high you won't be seeing the owner on that
vessel again. They really cracked down on this over the years. The real
money has been curtailed. Not only does a moratorium exist, but several
years waiting list to attain certain commercial licensing permits for
when they DO start reissuing such permits,,,such as Blue Crab. Some of
the oldtimers were grandfathered..: )


Twistedhed January 16th 04 04:01 PM

From: (Steveo)
Lancer wrote:
On Fri, 16 Jan 2004 14:45:04 GMT, "Landshark"
wrote:
"Steveo" wrote in message
...
Lancer wrote:
On 16 Jan 2004 13:26:15 GMT, Steveo moparholic@hotmail-
Lancer@web said:
=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0I didn't think that the U.S. allowed game
fish to be imported. I thought the Walleye and others that were sold
were farm raised?
_
That's catfish, retail Lake Erie Walleye come from Canada. It's even
illegal to sell Walleye that you catch on a line in the US.
I hope it stays that way too!


=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0Ma n they farm raise all
sorts fish
now a days.
=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0La ndshark
_
(Best one I have seen are the sea turtle farms in the Caymans. Ever have
a turtle burger?)

_
My buddy puts on a turtle fry. Those hard


shelled *******s have 5 different tasting


meats in them. His wife cooks most of it like


city chicken.


I don't like the 'cleansing' process. He puts


them in a rubber garbage can for a week with


no water or food, claims it 'cleans them out


from the earthy taste.


I told him thats friggin cruel. I still eat it tho.





Two things in this world that taste more like fish than fish..gator and
turtle. Reptilian dishes can be dashed a bit with some cajun
cookin'..but I'll stick with a good white fish and things that have
gills.


Lancer January 16th 04 04:12 PM

On 16 Jan 2004 15:32:58 GMT, Steveo
wrote:

Lancer wrote:
On Fri, 16 Jan 2004 14:45:04 GMT, "Landshark"
wrote:


"Steveo" wrote in message
...
Lancer wrote:
On 16 Jan 2004 13:26:15 GMT, Steveo moparholic@hotmail-
Lancer@web said:

I didn't think that the U.S. allowed game fish to be imported.
I thought the Walleye and others that were sold were farm raised?

That's catfish, retail Lake Erie Walleye come from Canada. It's
even illegal to sell Walleye that you catch on a line in the US.

I hope it stays that way too!

Man they farm raise all sorts fish
now a days.

Landshark


Best one I have seen are the sea turtle farms in the Caymans. Ever
have a turtle burger?

My buddy puts on a turtle fry. Those hard shelled *******s
have 5 different tasting meats in them. His wife cooks most
of it like city chicken.

I don't like the 'cleansing' process. He puts them in a rubber
garbage can for a week with no water or food, claims it 'cleans
them out from the earthy taste.

I told him thats friggin cruel. I still eat it tho.


Never heard of doing that, I know people that feed them corn meal to
help clean them out. They sure are good eating.

Lancer January 16th 04 04:15 PM

On Fri, 16 Jan 2004 10:57:54 -0500 (EST),
(Twistedhed) wrote:

Lancer@webrock wrote:
Yeah, same thing going on in the stores


around here. Demand for fresh seafood is


high around this area, so the stores pretty


much charge what they want. The only real


good deals you get are if you meet the shrimp


boats when they come in and buy right off the


boat.






If boats are selling seafood without the proper licensing here and they
get popped, chances are high you won't be seeing the owner on that
vessel again. They really cracked down on this over the years. The real
money has been curtailed. Not only does a moratorium exist, but several
years waiting list to attain certain commercial licensing permits for
when they DO start reissuing such permits,,,such as Blue Crab. Some of
the oldtimers were grandfathered..: )


I'm not sure what kind of permits they need, but if you walk along the
piers in Galveston there is a long line of boats selling fresh shrimp.
They even sell them from roadside vans, kind of like the ice cream
trucks that I remember as a kid.

Steveo January 16th 04 04:45 PM

Lancer wrote:
On 16 Jan 2004 15:32:58 GMT, Steveo
Best one I have seen are the sea turtle farms in the Caymans. Ever
have a turtle burger?

My buddy puts on a turtle fry. Those hard shelled *******s
have 5 different tasting meats in them. His wife cooks most
of it like city chicken.

I don't like the 'cleansing' process. He puts them in a rubber
garbage can for a week with no water or food, claims it 'cleans
them out from the earthy taste.

I told him thats friggin cruel. I still eat it tho.


Never heard of doing that, I know people that feed them corn meal to
help clean them out.

It's fairly common around here and it's ugly to look at. He put
on 90 lbs of it at his last feed, 30 lbs of it came on dry ice
from someplace.

They sure are good eating.

No doubt.

Steveo January 16th 04 04:51 PM

(Twistedhed) wrote:
Two things in this world that taste more like fish than fish..gator and
turtle. Reptilian dishes can be dashed a bit with some cajun
cookin'..but I'll stick with a good white fish and things that have
gills.

I disagree, gator or turtle taste nothing like fish. Of course
you've been eating that salty stuff so long your buds are toast.

:-)

Landshark January 17th 04 04:11 AM


"Steveo" wrote in message
...
(Twistedhed) wrote:
Two things in this world that taste more like fish than fish..gator and
turtle. Reptilian dishes can be dashed a bit with some cajun
cookin'..but I'll stick with a good white fish and things that have
gills.

I disagree, gator or turtle taste nothing like fish. Of course
you've been eating that salty stuff so long your buds are toast.

:-)


I'll agree, it's all about how
it's made.

Landshark



--
Hard things are put in our way,
not to stop us, but to call out our
courage and strength.



jim January 17th 04 09:08 PM



Landshark wrote:
"Steveo" wrote in message
...

(Twistedhed) wrote:

Two things in this world that taste more like fish than fish..gator and
turtle. Reptilian dishes can be dashed a bit with some cajun
cookin'..but I'll stick with a good white fish and things that have
gills.


I disagree, gator or turtle taste nothing like fish. Of course
you've been eating that salty stuff so long your buds are toast.

:-)



I'll agree, it's all about how
it's made.

Landshark




on the flip side the striper is one helluva good tasting fish with no
need for spices. the recent 17 pounder fed 7 people most of who had
trepidation eating something that might taste fishy. clean plates all
around...


Landshark January 18th 04 06:02 PM


"jim" wrote in message
...


Landshark wrote:
"Steveo" wrote in message
...

(Twistedhed) wrote:

Two things in this world that taste more like fish than fish..gator and
turtle. Reptilian dishes can be dashed a bit with some cajun
cookin'..but I'll stick with a good white fish and things that have
gills.


I disagree, gator or turtle taste nothing like fish. Of course
you've been eating that salty stuff so long your buds are toast.

:-)



I'll agree, it's all about how
it's made.

Landshark




on the flip side the striper is one helluva good tasting fish with no
need for spices. the recent 17 pounder fed 7 people most of who had
trepidation eating something that might taste fishy. clean plates all
around...


Same with Sturgeon, Yellow fin, Sole among others.

Landshark


--
Hard things are put in our way,
not to stop us, but to call out our
courage and strength.



milty456 February 12th 12 09:26 AM

Is this Dennis from B shift photo? Hope all is well with you.
This is Rich from D shift photo. One of the young-ins you and Mary Jackson use to look out for LOL.

Hows the family?

Take Care

Rich


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