Finally! My ARRL membership pays off!
 

"Lloyd Davies The GREAT TIME LORD" wrote in
:

Move over! People like me are coming to HF,. and there will be
nothing you can do to stop it. I am so happy.




Ten-Four on that Good-Buddy!! :-)

Dummy Load wrote:
"Lloyd Davies The GREAT TIME LORD" wrote in
:

Move over! People like me are coming to HF,. and there will be
nothing you can do to stop it. I am so happy.

Ten-Four on that Good-Buddy!! :-)

"Can ya hear me now?..Good."

I don't think a batch of newcomers can unleash any more unholy blasphemy
onto the HF bands then what has already been said and done.

Most of the conversations I've heard on HF sound like rowdy barroom talk or
a bunch old maids sitting around on deflated hemorrhoid cushions complaining
about poor health and cat food.

"Steve Stone" wrote in message ...
I don't think a batch of newcomers can unleash any more unholy blasphemy
onto the HF bands then what has already been said and done.

Most of the conversations I've heard on HF sound like rowdy barroom talk or
a bunch old maids sitting around on deflated hemorrhoid cushions complaining
about poor health and cat food.

whoopti do.........a lousy 100 watts on hf.......oh let me bow low and
kiss your feet rf gods for allowing a lowly american to use a hundred
freekin watts on my hf radio system........oh thank you
fcc........thank you a lot. man these guys just don't like letting go
of their power do they? what a insult.(but my neighbors appreciate
this fact i am sure). (one period for jim)

On 23 Jan 2004 20:33:50 -0800, (gw) wrote:

"Steve Stone" wrote in message ...
I don't think a batch of newcomers can unleash any more unholy blasphemy
onto the HF bands then what has already been said and done.

Most of the conversations I've heard on HF sound like rowdy barroom talk or
a bunch old maids sitting around on deflated hemorrhoid cushions complaining
about poor health and cat food.

whoopti do.........a lousy 100 watts on hf.......oh let me bow low and
kiss your feet rf gods for allowing a lowly american to use a hundred
freekin watts on my hf radio system........oh thank you
fcc........thank you a lot. man these guys just don't like letting go
of their power do they? what a insult.(but my neighbors appreciate
this fact i am sure). (one period for jim)

100 watts, where did that come from?

gw wrote:
"Steve Stone" wrote in message ...

I don't think a batch of newcomers can unleash any more unholy blasphemy
onto the HF bands then what has already been said and done.

Most of the conversations I've heard on HF sound like rowdy barroom talk or
a bunch old maids sitting around on deflated hemorrhoid cushions complaining
about poor health and cat food.


whoopti do.........a lousy 100 watts on hf.......oh let me bow low and
kiss your feet rf gods for allowing a lowly american to use a hundred
freekin watts on my hf radio system........oh thank you
fcc........thank you a lot. man these guys just don't like letting go
of their power do they? what a insult.(but my neighbors appreciate
this fact i am sure). (one period for jim)

..

"gw" wrote in message
om...
"Steve Stone" wrote in message
...
I don't think a batch of newcomers can unleash any more unholy blasphemy
onto the HF bands then what has already been said and done.

Most of the conversations I've heard on HF sound like rowdy barroom
talk or
a bunch old maids sitting around on deflated hemorrhoid cushions
complaining
about poor health and cat food.

whoopti do.........a lousy 100 watts on hf.......oh let me bow low and
kiss your feet rf gods for allowing a lowly american to use a hundred
freekin watts on my hf radio system........oh thank you
fcc........thank you a lot. man these guys just don't like letting go
of their power do they? what a insult.(but my neighbors appreciate
this fact i am sure). (one period for jim)



????????????? It is FIFTEEN HUNDRED watts for *most* bands, but why is that
such a big deal? I can easily work the world with 100 watts or less. I have
a
650 watt (swang?) mobile amp sitting on the shelf. I don't
use it because I don't need to. I don't have the BIG POWAH ego of many hams
AND CBers that MUST have the biggest signal to compensate for other
inadequa-
cies. AND, there is a rule in the Amatuer Service that goes somelike this
(paraphrase): "One should use only the
amount of power necessary to establish and maintain contact with a maximum
of 1500 watts. It also means that one *could* be cited (tho I know of no one
who has) for
using "excess" power--whatever value that may be, which, I assume, is up to
FCC's discretion. In what is considered *normal* conversation, if one
station is being
heard with 100 watts with ease, and the other is using
1000 watts because he just "wants" to, then that is considered excessive.

There is a difference in interpretation in CB and ham radio. For the CBer
(and this is NOT some sort of "cut"), people seem to think that a
conversation is about
"winning" some sort of battle via "louder and prouder" than one's opponent"
(?), or having mo' watts than the other fella, etc. Amateur Radio is
supposed to be about
experimenting, learning how propagation works, and using power judiciously.
Does it always happen that way? No. Human nature, being what it is, has a
competetive element, and some operators take that to extreme. And, yes,
the group of CB ops here that I talk to do it within the law. They aren't
interested in BIG signals all over everywhere; they just want to talk to
their
buddies and that's it. Plenty of hams run around 100 watts because it is
what the radios are designed for. For some of us, it just isn't worth all
the hassle and expense to
have a BIG amp when 100 watts will do all that is needed. With that 100
watts, I have worked Russia, Estonia, Serbia, Europe, S Africa, Australia,
Hawaii,
and all kinds of S. American countries. Didn't no BIG
WATTS to do it.


Jerry

Lancer wrote in message . ..
On 23 Jan 2004 20:33:50 -0800, (gw) wrote:

"Steve Stone" wrote in message ...
I don't think a batch of newcomers can unleash any more unholy blasphemy
onto the HF bands then what has already been said and done.

Most of the conversations I've heard on HF sound like rowdy barroom talk or
a bunch old maids sitting around on deflated hemorrhoid cushions complaining
about poor health and cat food.

whoopti do.........a lousy 100 watts on hf.......oh let me bow low and
kiss your feet rf gods for allowing a lowly american to use a hundred
freekin watts on my hf radio system........oh thank you
fcc........thank you a lot. man these guys just don't like letting go
of their power do they? what a insult.(but my neighbors appreciate
this fact i am sure). (one period for jim)

100 watts, where did that come from?

i think they are getting rid of the code, and allowing newbies on the
hf bands but only at 100 watts...whew!! so now leland can talk most
places but can't be heard.......too bad.....

JerryO wrote:
There is a difference in interpretation in CB

and ham radio. For the CBer (and this is NOT

some sort of "cut"), people seem to think that

a conversation is about

"winning" some sort of battle via "louder and

prouder" than one's opponent" (?), or having

mo' watts than the other fella, etc.





From the instant a non-cber turns on a cb, to fiddling with it for a few
days,,,,one thing is noticed,,,power is more range on cb, so that is
probably why folks think that way,,,,,it's the way it is.




Amateur Radio is supposed to be about

experimenting, learning how propagation

works, and using power judiciously. Does it

always happen that way? No. Human nature,

being what it is, has a competetive element,

and some operators take that to extreme. And,
yes, the group of CB ops here that I talk to do

it within the law. They aren't interested in BIG

signals all over everywhere; they just want to

talk to their

buddies and that's it.




Propagation can not be controlled. If they want to talk to their
buddies, assuming they are locals, they need wait their turn g (until
the heavy skip is gone).



Plenty of hams run

around 100 watts because it is what the radios
are designed for.




Plenty of cbers run barefoot for the same reason.


For some of us, it just isn't worth all the hassle
and expense to

have a BIG amp when 100 watts will do all

that is needed. With that 100 watts, I have

worked Russia, Estonia, Serbia, Europe, S

Africa, Australia, Hawaii,

and all kinds of S. American countries. Didn't

no BIG WATTS to do it.

Jerry

_
NOW you're talking my favorite game,,,low power dx,,,but heck, Jerry, I
long ago grew bored doing the world on 100 watts,,,,it wasn't even a
challenge any more......100 watts for across the pond contact is like
dropping a cluster bomb on citizens
because we're looking for someone who may have done something in the
future to endanger our,,,,,umm,,,,what would he have endangered again,
that had to do with us? You get my drift,,,,overkill : )
Try it with 3, 4 or 5 watt maximum,,,,,then try AM,,,then try FM,,,all
with single digit wattage capacity. When you make that contact across
the deep blue sea, experiment and see just how low you can go with the
wattage and try different modes, antennas, radios, etc.

In ,
(Twistedhed) wrote:

snip
Try it with 3, 4 or 5 watt maximum,,,,,then try AM,,,then try FM,,,all
with single digit wattage capacity. When you make that contact across
the deep blue sea, experiment and see just how low you can go with the
wattage and try different modes, antennas, radios, etc.


Working the pond with three watts on a skip band isn't much of a challenge at
all, Dave. Last week I managed to squeeze 74 mW ERP out of my experimental
antenna on 162.5 kHz (and in case I didn't 'learn' you well enough the first
time, that's KILO-Hertz, not MEGA-Hertz) and someone picked up my beacon in SLC.
Now THAT'S a challenge!






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From: (Frank=A0Gilliland)
In ,
(Twistedhed) wrote:
snip
Try it with 3, 4 or 5 watt maximum,,,,,then try AM,,,then try FM,,,all
with single digit wattage capacity. When you make that contact across
the deep blue sea, experiment and see just how low you can go with the
wattage and try different modes, antennas, radios, etc.


Working the pond with three watts on a skip

band isn't much of a challenge at all, Dave.


Lemme learn ya',,,my name is Dave as much as you aren't N7VCF. Careful,
now.
And "working the pond" would refer to just what? Across the ocean?
Shoot, opposed to JerryO doing it on a 100 watts,,,yes, it most
certainly is much more of a challenge doing "the pond" in such a manner.

Last week I managed to squeeze 74 mW ERP
out of my experimental antenna on 162.5 kHz


Congrats. It wasn't done on the fave of all HF bands, so it doesn't
interest myself in the manner it whets your enthusiasm.


(and in case I didn't 'learn' you well enough the
first time, that's KILO-Hertz, not MEGA-Hertz)


See above.


and someone picked up my beacon in SLC.

Now THAT'S a challenge!


How low can you go? There are very interesting things taking place
experimental-wise way down where only the freaks frequent.
Have you ever talked to an Emperor of a foreign country? An American
head of state in Sri Lanka? Both confirmed with cards and one of the
contacts was done on the freeband...real nice official card
received....American celeb hammies and the like don't impress
me,,,,perhaps if they were using a handheld near Victoria Falls I'd be
more inclined. Low power long distance is where it's at,,,except on the
bowl and tracks, of course.


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In ,
(Twistedhed) wrote:

From: (Frank*Gilliland)
In ,
(Twistedhed) wrote:
snip
Try it with 3, 4 or 5 watt maximum,,,,,then try AM,,,then try FM,,,all
with single digit wattage capacity. When you make that contact across
the deep blue sea, experiment and see just how low you can go with the
wattage and try different modes, antennas, radios, etc.


Working the pond with three watts on a skip

band isn't much of a challenge at all, Dave.


Lemme learn ya',,,my name is Dave as much as you aren't N7VCF. Careful,
now.


Careful yourself. I'm not N7VCF. I have proven it many, many times. Many people
in this newsgroup know this to be true. In fact, a couple years ago I bought a
scrapper Heathkit from Jerry O. -- why don't you ask him where he shipped it? I
suppose if you are nice about it (ha!) he would give you my full address, which
is in Spokane. I'm not N7VCF. Get over it.


And "working the pond" would refer to just what? Across the ocean?


Duh.


Shoot, opposed to JerryO doing it on a 100 watts,,,yes, it most
certainly is much more of a challenge doing "the pond" in such a manner.


What does that mean, "...opposed to JerryO doing it on a 100 watts..."? Do I
need to 'learn' you, a "professional journalist", in proper grammer again?


Last week I managed to squeeze 74 mW ERP
out of my experimental antenna on 162.5 kHz


Congrats. It wasn't done on the fave of all HF bands, so it doesn't
interest myself in the manner it whets your enthusiasm.


No, I don't suppose you take much interest in anything that may challenge you
physically, emotionally or mentally (as exemplified by your ignorance of both
grammer and radio fundamentals).


(and in case I didn't 'learn' you well enough the
first time, that's KILO-Hertz, not MEGA-Hertz)


See above.


and someone picked up my beacon in SLC.

Now THAT'S a challenge!


How low can you go? There are very interesting things taking place
experimental-wise way down where only the freaks frequent.


Us "freaks" are accomplishing things that you couldn't comprehend. And at least
a couple of us "freaks" is playing on freqs around 0.01 Hz, although there is
increasing interest in VLF from 3 to 9 kHz.


Have you ever talked to an Emperor of a foreign country?


I'll bet they talk to a lot of people. Not much point in talking to them,
though, since most of them don't even listen to their own constituants.


An American
head of state in Sri Lanka?


.....hmmmm, when was the last time a US President visited Sri Lanka....


Both confirmed with cards and one of the
contacts was done on the freeband...real nice official card
received..


If you want I'll send you a QSL card that confirms you contacted Santa Claus on
the freeband. BFD.


..American celeb hammies and the like don't impress
me,,


Nor me.


,,perhaps if they were using a handheld near Victoria Falls I'd be
more inclined. Low power long distance is where it's at,,,except on the
bowl and tracks, of course.


Yet 1000 miles on 74 mW doesn't even ruffle your feathers. Right. Sure. Whatever
you say, Dave.






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From: (Frank=A0Gilliland)
In ,
(Twistedhed) wrote:
From: (Frank=A0Gilliland)
In ,
(Twistedhed) wrote: snip
Try it with 3, 4 or 5 watt maximum,,,,,then try AM,,,then try FM,,,all
with single digit wattage capacity. When you make that contact across
the deep blue sea, experiment and see just how low you can go with the
wattage and try different modes, antennas, radios, etc.

Working the pond with three watts on a skip

band isn't much of a challenge at all, Dave.

Lemme learn ya',,,my name is Dave as much
as you aren't N7VCF. Careful,
now.

Careful yourself. I'm not N7VCF.


Then neither of us have anything to cry about when one of us refers to
the other as such.
Unlike yourself, I need not point to others for validation.


I have proven it many, many times.


the only thing you have proven many, many times, is what a liar you are
and what a troll you are. Take f'rinstance the fact that on certain
words, sometimes you mis-spell them, sometimes you don't. Hey, don't
froth at the snout at me,,,I merely point things like this out.


Many

people in this newsgroup know this to be true.


JerryO doesn't constitute "many." Name three more, two after that, and
you may be approaching "many" status in your two minion's eyes, no one
elses. Nevertheless,
it would also serve so that you may not be looked upon as posting
another lie just to try and refetch some of that dead ego I took from
you....you know, since YOU feel it to be of such pertinent relation that
you had to bring such nonsense to word.


In fact, a couple years ago I bought a scrapper
Heathkit from Jerry O. -- why don't you ask

him where he shipped it? I suppose if you are

nice about it (ha!) he would give you my full

address, which is in Spokane. I'm not N7VCF.



If Jerry would give out someone's address that he acquired via a private
business deal for the mere asking, he is a lowlife...,,,but then again,
if he is running to your corner to back anything you say, as opposed to
you looking to him for validation,,,,...

Get over it.


LOL,,,,,you are the one getting all worked up, as usual, over the
reference. You should try and emulate me when attempting your lack of
communication skills, as I never became hostile with you over your
referring to me as Dave McCambell. Why would I? We have you for that
when you are called Frank C. Gillinad,,,that, in addition to you
answering for posts directed toward him.

_
And "working the pond" would refer to just what? Across the ocean?


Duh.



Shoot, opposed to JerryO doing it on a 100 watts,,,yes, it most
certainly is much more of a challenge doing "the pond" in such a manner.


What does that mean, "...opposed to JerryO

doing it on a 100 watts..."?


Your communication deficit is full blown today.
It means, just waht it says...hahaha!
See, YOU took my comment to Jerry about working
the world with 3 watts and misappropriated it here. Your ignorance has
you ignoring Jerry's comment concerning working with 100 watts around
the world, in whicih I replied with a post about 3 watts,..you
know,,,,the one that has you drooling and scratching your filthy tshirt.
See what you can learn when force fed.....!

Do I need to 'learn' you, a "professional

journalist", in proper grammer again?


CB "grammer" (SIC) isn't proper, and Gillinad can spell "grammar." You
spell like Dave Hall or Geogre. Those two infamously, continually and
repeatedly spell like second graders that were held back. Of course, you
aer aware of that g. When you can learn proper communication
technique. c'mon back and you won't have it so bad. Until then, feel
free to copy my smoke!

HAhaha.....poor 'ol (ahem) "GW" is about to pop! LOL! No wonder,,,,he
heard a real radio and can't do a damn thing about it..,,except make
impotent cries about the FCC.....LOL! Besides,,,,I talked to FCC-man
yesterday and he told me I own real estate in his town...,,now go back
to being a watcher and quit bitching about those who participate. It
ain't my fault you can't bust a grape on 6. Perhaps if you ask real nice
someone will take pity and allow you some air time......watergate can be
a wonderful experience in the right hands.

In ,
(Twistedhed) wrote:

From: (Frank*Gilliland)
In ,
(Twistedhed) wrote:
From: (Frank*Gilliland)
In ,
(Twistedhed) wrote: snip
Try it with 3, 4 or 5 watt maximum,,,,,then try AM,,,then try FM,,,all
with single digit wattage capacity. When you make that contact across
the deep blue sea, experiment and see just how low you can go with the
wattage and try different modes, antennas, radios, etc.

Working the pond with three watts on a skip

band isn't much of a challenge at all, Dave.

Lemme learn ya',,,my name is Dave as much
as you aren't N7VCF. Careful,
now.

Careful yourself. I'm not N7VCF.


Then neither of us have anything to cry about when one of us refers to
the other as such.
Unlike yourself, I need not point to others for validation.


Do the names Ben Lee and Glenn Sparks ring a bell?


I have proven it many, many times.


the only thing you have proven many, many times, is what a liar you are
and what a troll you are. Take f'rinstance the fact that on certain
words, sometimes you mis-spell them, sometimes you don't.


So do you. I guess that means between the two of us there have been at least
four people posting in our conversations, huh? People misspell words all the
time, but that doesn't mean they suffer from MPD, dumbass.


Hey, don't
froth at the snout at me,,,I merely point things like this out.


So if the postman shows up one day with his fly open or his shoelace untied, is
that grounds to conclude that any or all of the mail he delivers is forged? Get
a grip.


Many

people in this newsgroup know this to be true.


JerryO doesn't constitute "many." Name three more, two after that, and
you may be approaching "many" status in your two minion's eyes, no one
elses.


1. Leland Scott
2. Moparholic

Want some more? Beg some more.


Nevertheless,
it would also serve so that you may not be looked upon as posting
another lie just to try and refetch some of that dead ego I took from
you....you know, since YOU feel it to be of such pertinent relation that
you had to bring such nonsense to word.


sobr (same old boring rhetoric).



In fact, a couple years ago I bought a scrapper
Heathkit from Jerry O. -- why don't you ask

him where he shipped it? I suppose if you are

nice about it (ha!) he would give you my full

address, which is in Spokane. I'm not N7VCF.



If Jerry would give out someone's address that he acquired via a private
business deal for the mere asking, he is a lowlife...,,,but then again,
if he is running to your corner to back anything you say, as opposed to
you looking to him for validation,,,,...


Did you cut yourself shaving with Occam's Razor again this morning?


Get over it.


LOL,,,,,you are the one getting all worked up, as usual, over the
reference. You should try and emulate me when attempting your lack of
communication skills, as I never became hostile with you over your
referring to me as Dave McCambell. Why would I? We have you for that
when you are called Frank C. Gillinad,,,that, in addition to you
answering for posts directed toward him.


Dave, perceptions are funny things. Two people can drive down a road and see a
tree, but while one person remembers the tree in one place, the other might
remember it being someplace else, and the reality might be that the tree is not
in either of those places. Yet you, in your determination to prove to the whole
world that the tree you saw is in the place you thought is was, have not only
returned to that empty field, but have grabbed an axe and started swinging away
at thin air. In the meantime, a crowd of onlookers has gathered, staring in
disbelief as they watch some nut-case (that's you, Dave) dancing in a field
tripping on his ego. Relentlessly swinging away, undiscouraged by the comments
from the multitude of generally reasonable people, you must believe that either
the tree exists or that you are actually convincing everyone else that it exists
(or both). If you had any brains at all you would realize how stupid you look,
put down the axe and walk away. But you don't -- you just keep swinging away,
much to the delight of many curious folks who have never seen a full-fledged
loony gone berserk. They get their fill of this memorable exhibition of
ignorance then leave, only to tell their children the story of Dave McCampbell,
the fruitcake who spent years trying to chop down an invisible tree.

Swing away, TwistyDave! Swing away!


_
And "working the pond" would refer to just what? Across the ocean?


Duh.



Shoot, opposed to JerryO doing it on a 100 watts,,,yes, it most
certainly is much more of a challenge doing "the pond" in such a manner.


What does that mean, "...opposed to JerryO

doing it on a 100 watts..."?


Your communication deficit is full blown today.
It means, just waht it says...hahaha!
See, YOU took my comment to Jerry about working
the world with 3 watts and misappropriated it here. Your ignorance has
you ignoring Jerry's comment concerning working with 100 watts around
the world, in whicih I replied with a post about 3 watts,..you
know,,,,the one that has you drooling and scratching your filthy tshirt.
See what you can learn when force fed.....!


I'll rephrase the question so you can understand it: What's a 100 watts?


Do I need to 'learn' you, a "professional

journalist", in proper grammer again?


CB "grammer" (SIC) isn't proper, and Gillinad can spell "grammar." You
spell like Dave Hall or Geogre. Those two infamously, continually and
repeatedly spell like second graders that were held back. Of course, you
aer aware of that g.


I am also aware that TwistyDave can spell the word "are" correctly. You must not
be TwistyDave. You are an imposter.


When you can learn proper communication
technique. c'mon back and you won't have it so bad. Until then, feel
free to copy my smoke!


TwistyDave does not put a period where there should be a comma. QUIT FORGING
TWISTYDAVE, you IMPOSTER!!!







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Frank Gilliland wrote:
In ,
(Twistedhed) wrote:

-snipper-

JerryO doesn't constitute "many." Name three more, two after that, and
you may be approaching "many" status in your two minion's eyes, no one
elses.

1. Leland Scott
2. Moparholic

Want some more? Beg some more.

Somehow I missed it, what was the question?

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Steveo wrote in message ...
Dummy Load wrote:
"Lloyd Davies The GREAT TIME LORD" wrote in
:

Move over! People like me are coming to HF,. and there will be
nothing you can do to stop it. I am so happy.

Ten-Four on that Good-Buddy!! :-)

"Can ya hear me now?..Good."

Steveo, dickhead, you are a loser.

(bobo_brazil) wrote:
Steveo wrote in message
...
Dummy Load wrote:
"Lloyd Davies The GREAT TIME LORD" wrote in
:

Move over! People like me are coming to HF,. and there will be
nothing you can do to stop it. I am so happy.

Ten-Four on that Good-Buddy!! :-)

"Can ya hear me now?..Good."

Steveo, dickhead, you are a loser.

A loser that will mop the parking lot with your over-medicated dome.

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Steveo wrote:

Japanese Nascar?
http://tinyurl.com/3apbj


Ohh, how NASCAR is going to change under Nextel! Dunno if the present
fans are gonna like it at all!

- Mike KB3EIA -

Mike Coslo wrote:
Steveo wrote:

Japanese Nascar?
http://tinyurl.com/3apbj

Ohh, how NASCAR is going to change under Nextel! Dunno if the
present fans are gonna like it at all!

- Mike KB3EIA -

I know what you mean, I'm gonna have trouble remembering not to
call it Winston. I still don't completely understand
the playoff thing. I figure Nextel won't last as long as the
smokes did for a sponsor either.

--
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Stupid Steve wrote:
Steveo wrote in news:20040201173348.091
:



It is not a playoff, and they are sure to say that it is not a playoff.


Go and believe them if you so choose, it IS a playoff.



Ohhh really dickface since when then does every team participate in the
playoffs?

Yes indeed Steveo Moparholic is a big dickface who knows nothing and
understands even less!