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Dale Parfitt February 29th 04 07:59 PM

F.A. Mint Ranger RCI-2950
 
Excellent condition- with mic, power cable, mobile bracket, original box. A
few days left at $99:
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...PageName= ADM
E:B:LC:US:1



SouthDakotaRadio March 3rd 04 02:26 AM

According to the eBay police, the RCI-2950 is an "illegal CB radio" and
therefore not allowed on their site.

LancasterLimited March 4th 04 01:50 AM

According to the AOL police, the AKC is an "idiot group" and therefore not
allowed on their site.



Richard Cranium March 5th 04 01:37 PM

(SouthDakotaRadio) wrote in message ...
According to the eBay police, the RCI-2950 is an "illegal CB radio" and
therefore not allowed on their site.


Actually, it's a perfectly legal 10 (and maybe 12) meter amateur
radio. Shows how much the "eBay police" know!

I Am Not George March 5th 04 07:23 PM

(Richard Cranium) wrote in message . com...
(SouthDakotaRadio) wrote in message ...
According to the eBay police, the RCI-2950 is an "illegal CB radio" and
therefore not allowed on their site.


Actually, it's a perfectly legal 10 (and maybe 12) meter amateur
radio. Shows how much the "eBay police" know!



Read this, you brainless ass.





Before the

Federal Communications Commission

Washington, D.C. 20554

In the Matter of )

)

Palco Electronics, Inc. ) File No. EB-04-DT-062

)

Southgate, Michigan ) Citation No. C20043236003 )

CITATION

Released: February 20, 2004

By the Enforcement Bureau, Detroit Office:

1.

This is an official Citation issued pursuant to Section 503(b)(5) of the
Communications Act of 1934, as amended ("Act"), to Palco Electronics, Inc.
("Palco") for violation of Section 302(b) of the Act, and Section
2.803(a)(1) of the Commission's Rules ("Rules").

2..

On February 10, 2004, Palco offered for sale at their store located at 18676
Eureka Road, Southgate, Michigan, the following non-certified Citizens Band
("CB") transceivers:

NAME MODEL COST

President Lincoln $269.99

Ranger Communications American Spirit (SS-3900 EGHPA) $199.99

Ranger RCI 2950 DX $269.99

Ranger RCI 2970 DX $399.99

Ranger RCI 6900F Turbo $454.99

Ranger RCI 2985 DX $439.99

Ranger RCI 2995 DX $589.99

According to the Commission's records, these devices have not received an
FCC equipment authorization which is required for Citizens Band transmitters
marketed in the United States.

3.

Section 302(b) of the Act provides "No person shall manufacture, import,
sell, offer for sale, or ship devices or home electronic equipment and
systems, or use devices, which fail to comply with regulations promulgated
pursuant to this section." Section 2.803(a)(1) of the Rules provides that ".
no person shall sell or lease, or offer for sale or lease (including
advertising for sale or lease), or import, ship or distribute for the
purpose of selling or leasing or offering for sale or lease, any radio
frequency device unless: (1) In the case of a device subject to
certification, such device has been authorized by the Commission in
accordance with the rules in this chapter and is properly identified and
labeled.." Palco's offer for sale of these devices violates both sections.

4.

Palco marketed these devices as amateur transceivers. The Commission has
evaluated radiofrequency devices similar to those listed in paragraph 2 and
concluded that the devices at issue are not only amateur radios but can
easily be altered for use as CB devices as well. A CB transmitter is a
transmitter that operates or is intended to operate at a station authorized
for the CB service, and it must be certificated by the FCC prior to
marketing or importation. The Commission has further concluded that these
devices fall within the definition of a CB transmitter and therefore cannot
legally be imported or marketed in the United States. See Response from the
Commission's General Counsel to U.S. Customs Service dated May 17, 1999, 14
FCC Rcd 7797 (1999).

5.

Additionally, dual use CB and amateur radios of the kind at issue here may
not be certificated under the Commission's rules. Section 95.655(a) of the
Rules states "..([CB] Transmitters with frequency capability for the Amateur
Radio Services..will not be certificated." See also FCC 88-256, 1988
WL488084 (August 17, 198 . This clarification was added to explicitly
foreclose the possibility of certification of dual use CB and amateur
radios, see id., and thereby deter use by CB operators of frequencies
allocated for amateur radio use.

6.

Furthermore, the Commission has revised Section 2.1204(a)(5) of its Rules to
prohibit all marketing and/or offering for sale in the United States of such
devices even when the purchaser(s) had provided assurances that the
transceivers are being bought solely for export. ALL DOMESTIC MARKETING OF
SUCH DEVICES VIOLATES THE COMMUNICATIONS ACT OF 1934, AS AMENDED, AND THE
COMMISSION'S RULES.

7.

In addition to the marketing of the non-certified transceivers addressed
above, Palco is hereby warned that Section 302(b) of the Act and Section
2.815(c) of the Rules requires FCC Type Acceptance (or Certification) of
External Radio Frequency Power Amplifiers (or amplifier kits) capable of
operation on any frequency or frequencies below 144 MHz. Furthermore,
Section 2.815(b) of the Rules prohibits the marketing of External Radio
Frequency Power Amplifiers (or amplifier kits) capable of operation on any
frequency or frequencies between 24 and 35 MHz.

8.

Subsequent violations of the Communications Act and/or the Commission's
Rules may subject the violator to substantial monetary forfeitures not to
exceed $11,000 for each such violation or each day of a continuing
violation, seizure of equipment through in rem forfeiture action, and
criminal sanctions including imprisonment.

9.

Palco may request a personal interview at the Commission's Field Office
nearest your place of business. The nearest office is the Detroit Office,
24897 Hathaway Street, Farmington Hills, Michigan 48335-1552 , which you may
contact by telephone at (24 471-5661. You must schedule this interview to
take place within fourteen (14) days of the date of this Citation.
Alternatively, you may submit a written statement to the above address
within fourteen (14) days of the date of this Citation. Any written
statement should specify what actions have been taken to correct the
violations outlined above. Please reference case number EB-04-DT-062 when
corresponding with the Detroit Office.

10.

This Citation shall be sent First Class U.S. Mail and, Certified Mail,
Return Receipt Requested, to Palco Electronics, Inc., 18676 Eureka Road,
Southgate, Michigan 48195.

11.

The Privacy Act of 1974 requires that we advise you that the Commission will
use all relevant material information before it, including any information
disclosed in your reply, to determine what, if any, enforcement action is
required to ensure compliance. Any false statement made knowingly and
willfully in reply to this Citation is punishable by fine or imprisonment
under Title 18 of the U.S. Code. Please be advised that if you choose not to
respond to this Citation and a forfeiture is issued, your unresponsiveness
will be considered in our assessment of a forfeiture amount.

FEDERAL COMMUNICATIONS COMMISSION

James A. Bridgewater

District Director

Detroit Office

47 U.S.C. § 503(b)(5)

47 U.S.C. § 302(b)

47 C.F.R. § §2.803(a)(1)

See 47 C.F.R, §§ 95.603(c), 2.803

47 C.F.R. § 95.655(a)

47 C.F.R. § 2.1204(a)(5) revised effective February 28, 2000

47 C.F.R. § 2.815(c)

47 C.F.R. § 2.815(b)

See 47 C.F.R. § 1.80(b)(3)

See 47 U.S.C. §§ 401, 501, 503, 510

P.L. 93-579, 5 U.S.C. § 552a(e)(3)

18 U.S.C. § 1001 et seq.

Federal Communications Commission

1

3

Federal Communications Commission

gw March 5th 04 08:06 PM

(Richard Cranium) wrote in message . com...
(SouthDakotaRadio) wrote in message ...
According to the eBay police, the RCI-2950 is an "illegal CB radio" and
therefore not allowed on their site.


Actually, it's a perfectly legal 10 (and maybe 12) meter amateur
radio. Shows how much the "eBay police" know!


hey numbnutts...get that crappy illegal radio off this newsgroup
asap.....it will not be sold here under any circumstances and your isp
has been alerted by your lords and masters to this illegal
activity...AKC4L....

Steveo March 5th 04 11:03 PM

(gw) wrote:
(Richard Cranium) wrote in message
. com...
(SouthDakotaRadio) wrote in message
...
According to the eBay police, the RCI-2950 is an "illegal CB radio"
and therefore not allowed on their site.


Actually, it's a perfectly legal 10 (and maybe 12) meter amateur
radio. Shows how much the "eBay police" know!


hey numbnutts...get that crappy illegal radio off this newsgroup
asap.....it will not be sold here under any circumstances and your isp
has been alerted by your lords and masters to this illegal
activity...AKC4L....

Your mom has been notified that you're not taking your meds again.

Richard Cranium March 6th 04 02:01 PM

(I Am Not George) wrote in message om...
(Richard Cranium) wrote in message . com...
(SouthDakotaRadio) wrote in message ...
According to the eBay police, the RCI-2950 is an "illegal CB radio" and
therefore not allowed on their site.


Actually, it's a perfectly legal 10 (and maybe 12) meter amateur
radio. Shows how much the "eBay police" know!



Read this, you brainless ass.


Still talking to or about yourself, huh?




Before the

Federal Communications Commission

Washington, D.C. 20554

In the Matter of )

)

Palco Electronics, Inc. ) File No. EB-04-DT-062

)

Southgate, Michigan ) Citation No. C20043236003 )

CITATION

Released: February 20, 2004

By the Enforcement Bureau, Detroit Office:

1.

This is an official Citation issued pursuant to Section 503(b)(5) of the
Communications Act of 1934, as amended ("Act"), to Palco Electronics, Inc.
("Palco") for violation of Section 302(b) of the Act, and Section
2.803(a)(1) of the Commission's Rules ("Rules").

2..

On February 10, 2004, Palco offered for sale at their store located at 18676
Eureka Road, Southgate, Michigan, the following non-certified Citizens Band
("CB") transceivers:

NAME MODEL COST

President Lincoln $269.99

Ranger Communications American Spirit (SS-3900 EGHPA) $199.99

Ranger RCI 2950 DX $269.99

Ranger RCI 2970 DX $399.99

Ranger RCI 6900F Turbo $454.99

Ranger RCI 2985 DX $439.99

Ranger RCI 2995 DX $589.99

According to the Commission's records, these devices have not received an
FCC equipment authorization which is required for Citizens Band transmitters
marketed in the United States.

3.

Section 302(b) of the Act provides "No person shall manufacture, import,
sell, offer for sale, or ship devices or home electronic equipment and
systems, or use devices, which fail to comply with regulations promulgated
pursuant to this section." Section 2.803(a)(1) of the Rules provides that ".
no person shall sell or lease, or offer for sale or lease (including
advertising for sale or lease), or import, ship or distribute for the
purpose of selling or leasing or offering for sale or lease, any radio
frequency device unless: (1) In the case of a device subject to
certification, such device has been authorized by the Commission in
accordance with the rules in this chapter and is properly identified and
labeled.." Palco's offer for sale of these devices violates both sections.

4.

Palco marketed these devices as amateur transceivers. The Commission has
evaluated radiofrequency devices similar to those listed in paragraph 2 and
concluded that the devices at issue are not only amateur radios but can
easily be altered for use as CB devices as well. A CB transmitter is a
transmitter that operates or is intended to operate at a station authorized
for the CB service, and it must be certificated by the FCC prior to
marketing or importation. The Commission has further concluded that these
devices fall within the definition of a CB transmitter and therefore cannot
legally be imported or marketed in the United States. See Response from the
Commission's General Counsel to U.S. Customs Service dated May 17, 1999, 14
FCC Rcd 7797 (1999).

5.

Additionally, dual use CB and amateur radios of the kind at issue here may
not be certificated under the Commission's rules. Section 95.655(a) of the
Rules states "..([CB] Transmitters with frequency capability for the Amateur
Radio Services..will not be certificated." See also FCC 88-256, 1988
WL488084 (August 17, 198 . This clarification was added to explicitly
foreclose the possibility of certification of dual use CB and amateur
radios, see id., and thereby deter use by CB operators of frequencies
allocated for amateur radio use.

6.

Furthermore, the Commission has revised Section 2.1204(a)(5) of its Rules to
prohibit all marketing and/or offering for sale in the United States of such
devices even when the purchaser(s) had provided assurances that the
transceivers are being bought solely for export. ALL DOMESTIC MARKETING OF
SUCH DEVICES VIOLATES THE COMMUNICATIONS ACT OF 1934, AS AMENDED, AND THE
COMMISSION'S RULES.

7.

In addition to the marketing of the non-certified transceivers addressed
above, Palco is hereby warned that Section 302(b) of the Act and Section
2.815(c) of the Rules requires FCC Type Acceptance (or Certification) of
External Radio Frequency Power Amplifiers (or amplifier kits) capable of
operation on any frequency or frequencies below 144 MHz. Furthermore,
Section 2.815(b) of the Rules prohibits the marketing of External Radio
Frequency Power Amplifiers (or amplifier kits) capable of operation on any
frequency or frequencies between 24 and 35 MHz.

8.

Subsequent violations of the Communications Act and/or the Commission's
Rules may subject the violator to substantial monetary forfeitures not to
exceed $11,000 for each such violation or each day of a continuing
violation, seizure of equipment through in rem forfeiture action, and
criminal sanctions including imprisonment.

9.

Palco may request a personal interview at the Commission's Field Office
nearest your place of business. The nearest office is the Detroit Office,
24897 Hathaway Street, Farmington Hills, Michigan 48335-1552 , which you may
contact by telephone at (24 471-5661. You must schedule this interview to
take place within fourteen (14) days of the date of this Citation.
Alternatively, you may submit a written statement to the above address
within fourteen (14) days of the date of this Citation. Any written
statement should specify what actions have been taken to correct the
violations outlined above. Please reference case number EB-04-DT-062 when
corresponding with the Detroit Office.

10.

This Citation shall be sent First Class U.S. Mail and, Certified Mail,
Return Receipt Requested, to Palco Electronics, Inc., 18676 Eureka Road,
Southgate, Michigan 48195.

11.

The Privacy Act of 1974 requires that we advise you that the Commission will
use all relevant material information before it, including any information
disclosed in your reply, to determine what, if any, enforcement action is
required to ensure compliance. Any false statement made knowingly and
willfully in reply to this Citation is punishable by fine or imprisonment
under Title 18 of the U.S. Code. Please be advised that if you choose not to
respond to this Citation and a forfeiture is issued, your unresponsiveness
will be considered in our assessment of a forfeiture amount.

FEDERAL COMMUNICATIONS COMMISSION

James A. Bridgewater

District Director

Detroit Office

47 U.S.C. § 503(b)(5)

47 U.S.C. § 302(b)

47 C.F.R. § §2.803(a)(1)

See 47 C.F.R, §§ 95.603(c), 2.803

47 C.F.R. § 95.655(a)

47 C.F.R. § 2.1204(a)(5) revised effective February 28, 2000

47 C.F.R. § 2.815(c)

47 C.F.R. § 2.815(b)

See 47 C.F.R. § 1.80(b)(3)

See 47 U.S.C. §§ 401, 501, 503, 510

P.L. 93-579, 5 U.S.C. § 552a(e)(3)

18 U.S.C. § 1001 et seq.

Federal Communications Commission

1

3

Federal Communications Commission


Which proves exactly what? I never said it was a legal CB radio. I
stated, correctly, that it's a perfectly legal AMATEUR radio. And it
is.

Stop sitting on your brain (if you have one) twit!

Richard Cranium March 6th 04 02:07 PM

(gw) wrote in message . com...
(Richard Cranium) wrote in message . com...
(SouthDakotaRadio) wrote in message ...
According to the eBay police, the RCI-2950 is an "illegal CB radio" and
therefore not allowed on their site.


Actually, it's a perfectly legal 10 (and maybe 12) meter amateur
radio. Shows how much the "eBay police" know!


hey numbnutts...get that crappy illegal radio off this newsgroup
asap.....it will not be sold here under any circumstances and your isp
has been alerted by your lords and masters to this illegal
activity...AKC4L....


LOL, you childish little man. The radio is not illegal; it's a
perfectly legal amateur radio.

No reason for him to remove it from this newsgroup. There are many
licensed hams who browse he There's the faggot DouGay Arair N8WWM,
there's the idiot Georgie-girl Busch WA3MOJ, the list goes on. Maybe
they're interested?

Here's a suggestion: If you're so freakin concerned about these
things, why don't you losers get together and buy up all those
so-called "illegal" radios and amps and take them out of circulation?

Andy in NJ March 7th 04 04:07 AM

But somehow it managed to be sold for $153.50 without being removed!!!

Amazing.

It's kind of ironic, actually, that Ebay considers 2950's bad enough to be
removed, but easily modified VHF radios which can be used to interupt
important frequencies, like police, fire and EMS continue to be sold. Do a
search for IC-2100 and see how many are offered modified, or with the
ability of the seller to modify after the auction.

"SouthDakotaRadio" wrote in message
...
According to the eBay police, the RCI-2950 is an "illegal CB radio" and
therefore not allowed on their site.




Andy in NJ March 7th 04 04:09 AM


"gw" wrote in message
om...
hey numbnutts...get that crappy illegal radio off this newsgroup
asap.....it will not be sold here under any circumstances and your isp
has been alerted by your lords and masters to this illegal
activity...AKC4L....


Oops, but it WAS sold. Guess it slipped through Ebay's hands! :)

BTW - An ISP doesn't give 2 sh*ts if you're selling "illegal" radio
equipment. They are not technically knowledgable enough in radios to make a
determination if you're doing something illegal with them. Besides, they
want to continue to collect your fees every month. No need to kick someone
off for a petty "offense" as that.



I Am Not George March 7th 04 06:21 AM

"Andy in NJ" SHORECOGSat COMCAST DOT NET wrote:
But somehow it managed to be sold for $153.50 without being removed!!!

Amazing.

It's kind of ironic, actually, that Ebay considers 2950's bad enough to
be
removed, but easily modified VHF radios which can be used to interupt
important frequencies, like police, fire and EMS continue to be sold. Do
a
search for IC-2100 and see how many are offered modified, or with the
ability of the seller to modify after the auction.


Big difference the icom is not in widespread use by bootleggers and the 2950 is.

Richard Cranium March 7th 04 01:45 PM

(I Am Not George) wrote in message om...
"Andy in NJ" SHORECOGSat COMCAST DOT NET wrote:
But somehow it managed to be sold for $153.50 without being removed!!!

Amazing.

It's kind of ironic, actually, that Ebay considers 2950's bad enough to
be
removed, but easily modified VHF radios which can be used to interupt
important frequencies, like police, fire and EMS continue to be sold. Do
a
search for IC-2100 and see how many are offered modified, or with the
ability of the seller to modify after the auction.


note: ALL IC2100s (and most other 2m rigs) come with the ability to
wideband. Clip a single diode (in the 2100 I think it's D16, on the
back of the display board) and you have xmit from 138 to 174 MHz. But
this is nothing new; most amateur radios have had this capability for
a long time.

Big difference the icom is not in widespread use by bootleggers and the 2950 is.


As usual, you proudly and publicly display your total stupidity and
abyssmal ignorance: The most common rigs "in widespread use by
bootleggers" are Icoms, Kenwoods, and Yaesus. The FT101 series was
legendary on 11 meters, but more Kenwoods, Icoms, and even Alincos are
showing up these days.

Geez, $153 for a Ranger 2950? Good price for the buyer, and worth
every penny.

Andy in NJ March 7th 04 04:53 PM


"Richard Cranium" wrote in message
...
note: ALL IC2100s (and most other 2m rigs) come with the ability to
wideband. Clip a single diode (in the 2100 I think it's D16, on the
back of the display board) and you have xmit from 138 to 174 MHz. But
this is nothing new; most amateur radios have had this capability for
a long time.


And when sellers advertise that the tx capabilities have been expanded, or
the fact that they will do it for the high bidder at no extra cost, Ebay
turns a blind eye. It's all about making money. I've noticed Ebay ignoring
many of the supposed "illegal" radios being sold on there lately.



I Am Not George March 7th 04 06:42 PM

(Richard Cranium) wrote in message m...
(I Am Not George) wrote in message om...
"Andy in NJ" SHORECOGSat COMCAST DOT NET wrote:
But somehow it managed to be sold for $153.50 without being removed!!!

Amazing.

It's kind of ironic, actually, that Ebay considers 2950's bad enough to
be
removed, but easily modified VHF radios which can be used to interupt
important frequencies, like police, fire and EMS continue to be sold. Do
a
search for IC-2100 and see how many are offered modified, or with the
ability of the seller to modify after the auction.


note: ALL IC2100s (and most other 2m rigs) come with the ability to
wideband. Clip a single diode (in the 2100 I think it's D16, on the
back of the display board) and you have xmit from 138 to 174 MHz. But
this is nothing new; most amateur radios have had this capability for
a long time.


LOL typical keyclown dickless figures you know exactly what diode to
clip you are a pirate arent you


Big difference the icom is not in widespread use by bootleggers and the 2950 is.


As usual, you proudly and publicly display your total stupidity and
abyssmal ignorance: The most common rigs "in widespread use by
bootleggers" are Icoms, Kenwoods, and Yaesus. The FT101 series was
legendary on 11 meters, but more Kenwoods, Icoms, and even Alincos are
showing up these days.


You ****ing retard look where the RCI is sold in CB stores on the web
and in truckstops all over the USA go ahead LOL you start spewing your
BS how RCI is meant for hams to buy but you know and the rest of the
world knows it is a CB keyclown rig meant for CB keyclowns and that is
very different from the IC2100

Geez, $153 for a Ranger 2950? Good price for the buyer, and worth
every penny.


you know this from you many years in the AE SSB bootleggers club

Richard Cranium March 8th 04 12:17 AM

(I Am Not George) wrote in message om...
(Richard Cranium) wrote in message m...
(I Am Not George) wrote in message om...
"Andy in NJ" SHORECOGSat COMCAST DOT NET wrote:
But somehow it managed to be sold for $153.50 without being removed!!!

Amazing.

It's kind of ironic, actually, that Ebay considers 2950's bad enough to
be
removed, but easily modified VHF radios which can be used to interupt
important frequencies, like police, fire and EMS continue to be sold. Do
a
search for IC-2100 and see how many are offered modified, or with the
ability of the seller to modify after the auction.


note: ALL IC2100s (and most other 2m rigs) come with the ability to
wideband. Clip a single diode (in the 2100 I think it's D16, on the
back of the display board) and you have xmit from 138 to 174 MHz. But
this is nothing new; most amateur radios have had this capability for
a long time.


LOL typical keyclown dickless figures you know exactly what diode to
clip you are a pirate arent you


It's no secret. The info is available on the web. Or are you so
completely retarded that you can't find it?


Big difference the icom is not in widespread use by bootleggers and the 2950 is.


As usual, you proudly and publicly display your total stupidity and
abyssmal ignorance: The most common rigs "in widespread use by
bootleggers" are Icoms, Kenwoods, and Yaesus. The FT101 series was
legendary on 11 meters, but more Kenwoods, Icoms, and even Alincos are
showing up these days.


You ****ing retard look where the RCI is sold in CB stores on the web
and in truckstops all over the USA go ahead LOL you start spewing your
BS how RCI is meant for hams to buy but you know and the rest of the
world knows it is a CB keyclown rig meant for CB keyclowns and that is
very different from the IC2100


Of course you ignore the fact that the original poster was talking
about the Icom IC2100, which can be modified to operate in hi-band VHF
on frequencies that are not open to amateurs. Since you have zero
comprehension, allow me to help out: He said that it was stupid of
eBay (and yourself) to waste so much time on radios that MIGHT be
modified to work on CB when it's so easy to modify a 2 meter amateur
radio to operate where it shouldn't. And, of course, you have no
intelligent comment to make, so you keep spewing trash. I agree with
the poster that it's probably a whole lot more serious for someone to
get on police or fire frequencies with a 2 meter radio than it is to
get on CB with a 10 meter radio.

Beside which, you have been proven powerless to stop the sales of what
you erroneously call "illegal" CB radios.

Now you can tell me what I (or anyone else) know, when you prove
repeatedly that you don't have a freakin' clue? Gawd, what a clueless
dumbass you are.

The Ranger is a 10 meter radio, which can be modified to operate on
the 12 meter ham band as well. Anything else is pure speculation on
your part, dimbulb. Maybe you used one on CB, but they're not made for
that purpose.

Again, the most common "bootleg" radios on CB are Icom, Kenwood and
Yaesu. I don't see you shutting down sales of those radios anytime
soon. But, of course, you haven't shut down the sales of Rangers or
Unidens, either. And that bothers your tiny little ego something
fierce, doesn't it, little man?

Geez, $153 for a Ranger 2950? Good price for the buyer, and worth
every penny.


you know this from you many years in the AE SSB bootleggers club


Wrong again. As usual, numbskull. I wouldn't even know how to contact
them. But I bet you're a charter member!

I Am Not George March 8th 04 01:02 AM

(Richard Cranium) wrote:
The Ranger is a 10 meter radio, which can be modified to operate on
the 12 meter ham band as well. Anything else is pure speculation on
your part, dimbulb.


ROTFLMFAO how dense can you be Oh I forgot your the same dickhead
cranium who said there were no CBers on the 10M band....






ILLEGAL CB TRANSCEIVER LIST

The FCC's Office of Engineer and Technology (OET) has evaluated the
devices listed below and has concluded that these devices are not only
amateur transceivers but can easily be altered for use as Citizens
Band (CB) transceivers as well. As such, OET has further concluded
that these devices cannot legally be imported or marketed within the
United States for the reasons discussed below. Further, the FCC
General Council has issued a decision in a specific case involving one
manufacturer and has concluded that dual use CB and amateur radios of
the kind at issue may not be approved under the Commission's rules and
are in violation of several rules including the RF power level limits
of 47 CFR 95.639. (letter from Christopher J. Wright, FCC-OGC to John
F. Atwood, US Customs Service, dated May 17, 1999).

Transceivers used in the Amateur Radio Service below 30 MHz do not
require FCC authorization prior to being imported into or marketed
within the United States, but transceivers for other services,
including the CB Radio Service (CB), do require Commission approval.
The transceivers listed herein and other similar models operate in the
amateur "10-meter band" and are often referred to as "10-meter" radios
or "export" radios. The amateur 10-meter band uses frequencies that
are very close to the channels set aside for use in the CB service.
Some of the transceivers that manufacturers call "10-meter" radios
either operate on CB frequencies as manufactured and imported or are
designed such that internal circuits can readily be activated by a
user, a service technician or a dealer to operate on CB frequencies.
According to Section 95.603(c) of the Commission's rules, a CB
transmitter is a transmitter that operates or is intended to operate
at a station authorized for the CB service. 47C.F.R. § 95.603(c).
The Commission's equipment authorization experts in the FCC Laboratory
have determined that the transceivers listed herein and other similar
models at issue here are intended for use on the CB frequencies as
well as those in the amateur service because they have built-in
capability to operate on CB frequencies. This capability can be
readily activated by moving or removing a jumper plug, cutting or
splicing a wire, plugging in a connector, or other simple means.
Thus, all the transceivers listed herein and similar models fall
within the definition of a CB transmitter. See 47C.F.R. § 95.603(c).
A CB transmitter must be certificated by the FCC prior to marketing or
importation. 47 C.F.R. §§ 95.603(c); 2.803.

Moreover, the dual use CB and amateur radios of the kind at issue here
may not be certified under the Commission's rules. Section 95.655(a)
states: "….([CB] Transmitters with frequency capability for the
Amateur Radio Services … will not be certificated.)" See also
Amendment of Part 95, Subpart E, Technical Regulations in the Personal
Radio Services Rules, FCC 88-256, 1888 WL 488084 (August 17, 1988).
This clarification was added to explicitly foreclose the possibility
of certification of dual use CB and amateur radios, see id, and
thereby deter use by CB operators of frequencies allocated for amateur
radio use.

In addition, the Commission's equipment authorization experts have
determined that these devices violate or appear to violate a number of
the rules governing CB devices. For example, they may use emission
types not permitted, or emit RF power at a level in excess of the
levels permitted in the CB radio service. See 47 C.F.R. § 95.639.

In view of the foregoing, the following "10-meter" transceivers are
not acceptable for importation or marketing into/within the United
States. Importation and marketing of these units is illegal pursuant
to Section 302(b) of the Communications Act and Section 2.803 of the
rules. Willful violations of the Rules and the Act may subject the
violator to a monetary forfeiture of not more than $11,000 for each
violation or each day of a continuing violation. The Commission
continues to review this type of equipment, and additional makes and
models may be added to this list in the future.



LIST OF TRANSCEIVERS
ILLEGAL TO IMPORT OR MARKET


GALAXY - models: DX33HML, DX 44V, DX55V, DX66V, DX 73V, DX 77HML, DX
88HL, DX99V and Saturn Turbo

CONNEX - models: 3300, 3300HP-ZX, 3300 PLUS and CX-3800

MIRAGE - models: 44, Galaxy 88, 9900 and 2950EX

NORTH STAR - models: NS-3000 and NS-9000

PRESIDENT - models: Grant, J.F.K., Jackson and Lincoln

PRO STAR - model: 240

RANGER - models: AR-3500 and RCI-2950

TEK - model: HR-3950

UNIDEN - models: HR-2510 and HR-2600

SUPER STAR - model: 121






Before the

Federal Communications Commission

Washington, D.C. 20554

In the Matter of )

)

Palco Electronics, Inc. ) File No. EB-04-DT-062

)

Southgate, Michigan ) Citation No. C20043236003 )

CITATION

Released: February 20, 2004

By the Enforcement Bureau, Detroit Office:

1.

This is an official Citation issued pursuant to Section 503(b)(5) of
the
Communications Act of 1934, as amended ("Act"), to Palco Electronics,
Inc.
("Palco") for violation of Section 302(b) of the Act, and Section
2.803(a)(1) of the Commission's Rules ("Rules").

2..

On February 10, 2004, Palco offered for sale at their store located at
18676
Eureka Road, Southgate, Michigan, the following non-certified Citizens
Band
("CB") transceivers:

NAME MODEL COST

President Lincoln $269.99

Ranger Communications American Spirit (SS-3900 EGHPA) $199.99

Ranger RCI 2950 DX $269.99

Ranger RCI 2970 DX $399.99

Ranger RCI 6900F Turbo $454.99

Ranger RCI 2985 DX $439.99

Ranger RCI 2995 DX $589.99

According to the Commission's records, these devices have not received
an
FCC equipment authorization which is required for Citizens Band
transmitters
marketed in the United States.

3.

Section 302(b) of the Act provides "No person shall manufacture,
import,
sell, offer for sale, or ship devices or home electronic equipment and
systems, or use devices, which fail to comply with regulations
promulgated
pursuant to this section." Section 2.803(a)(1) of the Rules provides
that ".
no person shall sell or lease, or offer for sale or lease (including
advertising for sale or lease), or import, ship or distribute for the
purpose of selling or leasing or offering for sale or lease, any radio
frequency device unless: (1) In the case of a device subject to
certification, such device has been authorized by the Commission in
accordance with the rules in this chapter and is properly identified
and
labeled.." Palco's offer for sale of these devices violates both
sections.

4.

Palco marketed these devices as amateur transceivers. The Commission
has
evaluated radiofrequency devices similar to those listed in paragraph
2 and
concluded that the devices at issue are not only amateur radios but
can
easily be altered for use as CB devices as well. A CB transmitter is a
transmitter that operates or is intended to operate at a station
authorized
for the CB service, and it must be certificated by the FCC prior to
marketing or importation. The Commission has further concluded that
these
devices fall within the definition of a CB transmitter and therefore
cannot
legally be imported or marketed in the United States. See Response
from the
Commission's General Counsel to U.S. Customs Service dated May 17,
1999, 14
FCC Rcd 7797 (1999).

5.

Additionally, dual use CB and amateur radios of the kind at issue here
may
not be certificated under the Commission's rules. Section 95.655(a) of
the
Rules states "..([CB] Transmitters with frequency capability for the
Amateur
Radio Services..will not be certificated." See also FCC 88-256, 1988
WL488084 (August 17, 198 . This clarification was added to explicitly
foreclose the possibility of certification of dual use CB and amateur
radios, see id., and thereby deter use by CB operators of frequencies
allocated for amateur radio use.

6.

Furthermore, the Commission has revised Section 2.1204(a)(5) of its
Rules to
prohibit all marketing and/or offering for sale in the United States
of such
devices even when the purchaser(s) had provided assurances that the
transceivers are being bought solely for export. ALL DOMESTIC
MARKETING OF
SUCH DEVICES VIOLATES THE COMMUNICATIONS ACT OF 1934, AS AMENDED, AND
THE
COMMISSION'S RULES.

7.

In addition to the marketing of the non-certified transceivers
addressed
above, Palco is hereby warned that Section 302(b) of the Act and
Section
2.815(c) of the Rules requires FCC Type Acceptance (or Certification)
of
External Radio Frequency Power Amplifiers (or amplifier kits) capable
of
operation on any frequency or frequencies below 144 MHz. Furthermore,
Section 2.815(b) of the Rules prohibits the marketing of External
Radio
Frequency Power Amplifiers (or amplifier kits) capable of operation on
any
frequency or frequencies between 24 and 35 MHz.

8.

Subsequent violations of the Communications Act and/or the
Commission's
Rules may subject the violator to substantial monetary forfeitures not
to
exceed $11,000 for each such violation or each day of a continuing
violation, seizure of equipment through in rem forfeiture action, and
criminal sanctions including imprisonment.

9.

Palco may request a personal interview at the Commission's Field
Office
nearest your place of business. The nearest office is the Detroit
Office,
24897 Hathaway Street, Farmington Hills, Michigan 48335-1552 , which
you may
contact by telephone at (24 471-5661. You must schedule this interview
to
take place within fourteen (14) days of the date of this Citation.
Alternatively, you may submit a written statement to the above address
within fourteen (14) days of the date of this Citation. Any written
statement should specify what actions have been taken to correct the
violations outlined above. Please reference case number EB-04-DT-062
when
corresponding with the Detroit Office.

10.

This Citation shall be sent First Class U.S. Mail and, Certified Mail,
Return Receipt Requested, to Palco Electronics, Inc., 18676 Eureka
Road,
Southgate, Michigan 48195.

11.

The Privacy Act of 1974 requires that we advise you that the
Commission will
use all relevant material information before it, including any
information
disclosed in your reply, to determine what, if any, enforcement action
is
required to ensure compliance. Any false statement made knowingly and
willfully in reply to this Citation is punishable by fine or
imprisonment
under Title 18 of the U.S. Code. Please be advised that if you choose
not to
respond to this Citation and a forfeiture is issued, your
unresponsiveness
will be considered in our assessment of a forfeiture amount.

FEDERAL COMMUNICATIONS COMMISSION

James A. Bridgewater

District Director

Detroit Office

47 U.S.C. § 503(b)(5)

47 U.S.C. § 302(b)

47 C.F.R. § §2.803(a)(1)

See 47 C.F.R, §§ 95.603(c), 2.803

47 C.F.R. § 95.655(a)

47 C.F.R. § 2.1204(a)(5) revised effective February 28, 2000

47 C.F.R. § 2.815(c)

47 C.F.R. § 2.815(b)

See 47 C.F.R. § 1.80(b)(3)

See 47 U.S.C. §§ 401, 501, 503, 510

P.L. 93-579, 5 U.S.C. § 552a(e)(3)

18 U.S.C. § 1001 et seq.

Federal Communications Commission

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Federal Communications Commission

DANNY JESWALD March 8th 04 01:52 AM

In article , I Am Not George
says...

(Richard Cranium) wrote:
The Ranger is a 10 meter radio, which can be modified to operate on
the 12 meter ham band as well. Anything else is pure speculation on
your part, dimbulb.


ROTFLMFAO how dense can you be Oh I forgot your the same dickhead
cranium who said there were no CBers on the 10M band....


im a cber and im also a hammer on 10 meters. do i win a prize?


Richard Cranium March 8th 04 01:26 PM

(I Am Not George) wrote in message om...
(Richard Cranium) wrote:
The Ranger is a 10 meter radio, which can be modified to operate on
the 12 meter ham band as well. Anything else is pure speculation on
your part, dimbulb.


ROTFLMFAO how dense can you be Oh I forgot your the same dickhead
cranium who said there were no CBers on the 10M band....


Where did I say that? Please produce the post. What I said was that,
as of the time I made the post, I hadn't HEARD any of the so-called
"intruders" on ten meters. I've also posted that a few people (like
you) are making a huge mountain out of a tiny molehill, which appears
to still be the case. So please dredge up any post of mine where I
said otherwise.

And what difference does it make to a no-code Tech whether there's
someone intruding on 10 meters? You cannot legally use the band, so
you have nothing to say about it. I suppose next you'll be taking on
the international broadcasters in 40 meters? LOL!

irrelevant drivel snipped

Where have I ever said a Ranger was legal for use on CB? Please
produce the post. I said it's a 10 (and 12) meter amateur radio. It's
obvious that your reading comprehension deficit is far larger than
anyone had suspected.

Allow me to point out (again) that the most commonly used "bootlegger"
rigs on 11 meters are Icoms, Kenwoods, and Yaesus; not Rangers or
Unidens. A point you repeatedly ignore because it doesn't fit your
arroneous, preconceived notions.

No matter. The point is moot anyhow, since the radio was sold despite
your attempts to stop the sale. Which shows how little everyone thinks
of you and your stupidy.

You should stop using your brain for a seat-cushion. I know you like
to sniff it after a long day at the keyboard but it's intended for
rational thought, which is obviously completely foreign to you.

Richard Cranium March 8th 04 01:30 PM

DANNY JESWALD wrote in message ...
In article , I Am Not George
says...

(Richard Cranium) wrote:
The Ranger is a 10 meter radio, which can be modified to operate on
the 12 meter ham band as well. Anything else is pure speculation on
your part, dimbulb.


ROTFLMFAO how dense can you be Oh I forgot your the same dickhead
cranium who said there were no CBers on the 10M band....


im a cber and im also a hammer on 10 meters. do i win a prize?


LOL! Don't pay any attention to DouGay Adair N8WWM. Nobody will talk
to him on 6 meters, so he trolls here 24/7 under fake names. You would
think that a licensed ham and machine shop owner in Toledo, Ohio,
would have something better to do than stir up trouble, but not
DouGay!

Twistedhed March 8th 04 03:04 PM

From: (Richard=A0Cranium)
(I Am Not George) wrote in message
om...
(Richard Cranium) wrote:
The Ranger is a 10 meter radio, which can be modified to operate on the
12 meter ham band as well. Anything else is pure speculation on your
part, dimbulb.


ROTFLMFAO how dense can you be Oh I


forgot your the same dickhead cranium who


said there were no CBers on the 10M band....


_
(Where did I say that? Please produce the post. What I said was that, as
of the time I made the post, I hadn't HEARD any of the so-called
"intruders" on ten meters. I've also posted that a few people (like you)
are making a huge mountain out of a tiny molehill, which appears to
still be the case. So please dredge up any post of mine where I said
otherwise.)

_
Of course you never said anything of the such. The loser has always lied
and attempted to place words in other folk's posts. He is a liar,
nothing more to it. He wants, no,,,,needs others to feel his shame.


Twistedhed March 8th 04 03:08 PM

From: (Richard=A0Cranium)
DANNY JESWALD wrote in message
...
In article , I Am Not
George says...
(Richard Cranium) wrote:
LOL! Don't pay any attention to DouGay Adair


N8WWM. Nobody will talk to him on 6 meters,


so he trolls here 24/7 under fake names. You


would think that a licensed ham and machine


shop owner in Toledo, Ohio, would have


something better to do than stir up trouble, but
not DouGay!




His dainty little clubbed hooves, I mean hands working a cheap Tyco
drill press to make holes in cheap, scrappy antennas that he sells at
hyper-inflated prices does not maketh a machine shoppe g


I Am Not George March 8th 04 07:51 PM

(Twistedhed) wrote in message ...
From:
(Richard Cranium)
(I Am Not George) wrote in message
om...
(Richard Cranium) wrote:
The Ranger is a 10 meter radio, which can be modified to operate on the
12 meter ham band as well. Anything else is pure speculation on your
part, dimbulb.


ROTFLMFAO how dense can you be Oh I


forgot your the same dickhead cranium who


said there were no CBers on the 10M band....



(Where did I say that? Please produce the post. What I said was that, as
of the time I made the post, I hadn't HEARD any of the so-called
"intruders" on ten meters. I've also posted that a few people (like you)
are making a huge mountain out of a tiny molehill, which appears to
still be the case. So please dredge up any post of mine where I said
otherwise.)


Of course you never said anything of the such. The loser has always lied
and attempted to place words in other folk's posts. He is a liar,
nothing more to it. He wants, no,,,,needs others to feel his shame.




wow Dickhead and twistihead you got very upset at this thread you
reply two or three times to one post LOL!!!! both of you are awful
busy defending the intruders on 10 M and the radios on the FCC banned
list I wonder why.

Richard Cranium March 9th 04 01:46 AM

(I Am Not George) wrote in message om...
(Twistedhed) wrote in message ...
From:
(Richard Cranium)
(I Am Not George) wrote in message
om...
(Richard Cranium) wrote:
The Ranger is a 10 meter radio, which can be modified to operate on the
12 meter ham band as well. Anything else is pure speculation on your
part, dimbulb.


ROTFLMFAO how dense can you be Oh I


forgot your the same dickhead cranium who


said there were no CBers on the 10M band....



(Where did I say that? Please produce the post. What I said was that, as
of the time I made the post, I hadn't HEARD any of the so-called
"intruders" on ten meters. I've also posted that a few people (like you)
are making a huge mountain out of a tiny molehill, which appears to
still be the case. So please dredge up any post of mine where I said
otherwise.)


Of course you never said anything of the such. The loser has always lied
and attempted to place words in other folk's posts. He is a liar,
nothing more to it. He wants, no,,,,needs others to feel his shame.




wow Dickhead and twistihead you got very upset at this thread you
reply two or three times to one post LOL!!!!


Lie.

both of you are awful
busy defending the intruders on 10 M and the radios on the FCC banned
list I wonder why.


Lie. I haven't defended anything or anybody. I question your actions
and your motives, along with your extremely selective attempts at
being a FCC agent and internet cop. You are a pathetic, sick little
man, DouGay; no wonder your Mommy died of embarassment!

As usual, you ignore facts and legitimate questions because they don't
fit your illogical preconceived notions.

If you bother to read the FCC stuff you have been spamming the
newsgroup with, you'd see that amateur transceivers do not require FCC
type acceptance before being imported. The Ranger is imported as an
amateur radio: It's a 10 meter (and 12 meter, if modified) rig and
it's perfectly legal for such use. I have never said (nor has Twist
that I've found) that it's legal for use on CB.

It's only you that can't figure it out.

Which makes you the village idiot, doesn't it DouGay? And you're real
proud of yourself, too. But don't worry, we humor idiots here.
Sometimes.

I Am Not George March 9th 04 03:31 AM

(Richard Cranium) wrote:
(I Am Not George) wrote in message om...
(Twistedhed) wrote in message ...
From:
(Richard Cranium)
(I Am Not George) wrote in message
om...
(Richard Cranium) wrote:
The Ranger is a 10 meter radio, which can be modified to operate

on
the
12 meter ham band as well. Anything else is pure speculation on

your
part, dimbulb.


ROTFLMFAO how dense can you be Oh I


forgot your the same dickhead cranium who


said there were no CBers on the 10M band....


(Where did I say that? Please produce the post. What I said was

that,
as
of the time I made the post, I hadn't HEARD any of the so-called
"intruders" on ten meters. I've also posted that a few people

(like
you)
are making a huge mountain out of a tiny molehill, which appears

to
still be the case. So please dredge up any post of mine where I

said
otherwise.)


Of course you never said anything of the such. The loser has

always
lied
and attempted to place words in other folk's posts. He is a liar,
nothing more to it. He wants, no,,,,needs others to feel his

shame.



wow Dickhead and twistihead you got very upset at this thread you
reply two or three times to one post LOL!!!!


Lie.

both of you are awful
busy defending the intruders on 10 M and the radios on the FCC

banned
list I wonder why.


Lie. I haven't defended anything or anybody. I question your actions
and your motives, along with your extremely selective attempts at
being a FCC agent and internet cop. You are a pathetic, sick little
man, DouGay; no wonder your Mommy died of embarassment!

As usual, you ignore facts and legitimate questions because they

don't
fit your illogical preconceived notions.

If you bother to read the FCC stuff you have been spamming the
newsgroup with, you'd see that amateur transceivers do not require

FCC
type acceptance before being imported. The Ranger is imported as an
amateur radio: It's a 10 meter (and 12 meter, if modified) rig and
it's perfectly legal for such use. I have never said (nor has Twist
that I've found) that it's legal for use on CB.

It's only you that can't figure it out.

Which makes you the village idiot, doesn't it DouGay? And you're real
proud of yourself, too. But don't worry, we humor idiots here.
Sometimes.


Hey too bad sperm swallower, the flow of those radios is being cut off
and soon keyclowns like you will not be able to get them at truckstops
and on the internet. Go back to the pirate newsgroup and cry some more
about how its not fair and the FCC is spoiling your fun ROTFLMFAO

I Am Not God March 9th 04 03:46 AM


"I Am Not George" wrote in message
m...
(Richard Cranium) wrote:
(I Am Not George) wrote in message

om...
(Twistedhed) wrote in message
...
From:
(Richard Cranium)
(I Am Not George) wrote in message
om...
(Richard Cranium) wrote:
The Ranger is a 10 meter radio, which can be modified to operate

on
the
12 meter ham band as well. Anything else is pure speculation on

your
part, dimbulb.


ROTFLMFAO how dense can you be Oh I

forgot your the same dickhead cranium who

said there were no CBers on the 10M band....


(Where did I say that? Please produce the post. What I said was

that,
as
of the time I made the post, I hadn't HEARD any of the so-called
"intruders" on ten meters. I've also posted that a few people

(like
you)
are making a huge mountain out of a tiny molehill, which appears

to
still be the case. So please dredge up any post of mine where I

said
otherwise.)


Of course you never said anything of the such. The loser has

always
lied
and attempted to place words in other folk's posts. He is a liar,
nothing more to it. He wants, no,,,,needs others to feel his

shame.



wow Dickhead and twistihead you got very upset at this thread you
reply two or three times to one post LOL!!!!


Lie.

both of you are awful
busy defending the intruders on 10 M and the radios on the FCC

banned
list I wonder why.


Lie. I haven't defended anything or anybody. I question your actions
and your motives, along with your extremely selective attempts at
being a FCC agent and internet cop. You are a pathetic, sick little
man, DouGay; no wonder your Mommy died of embarassment!

As usual, you ignore facts and legitimate questions because they

don't
fit your illogical preconceived notions.

If you bother to read the FCC stuff you have been spamming the
newsgroup with, you'd see that amateur transceivers do not require

FCC
type acceptance before being imported. The Ranger is imported as an
amateur radio: It's a 10 meter (and 12 meter, if modified) rig and
it's perfectly legal for such use. I have never said (nor has Twist
that I've found) that it's legal for use on CB.

It's only you that can't figure it out.

Which makes you the village idiot, doesn't it DouGay? And you're real
proud of yourself, too. But don't worry, we humor idiots here.
Sometimes.


Hey too bad sperm swallower, the flow of those radios is being cut off
and soon keyclowns like you will not be able to get them at truckstops
and on the internet. Go back to the pirate newsgroup and cry some more
about how its not fair and the FCC is spoiling your fun ROTFLMFAO


Cool! Icoms, Kenwoods, etc, have much more features, and are not that much
more expensive. Fine business.



Twistedhed March 9th 04 03:40 PM

From: (I=A0Am=A0Not=A0George)
(Twistedhed) wrote in message
...
From:
(Richard Cranium)
(I Am Not George) wrote in message
om...
(Richard Cranium) wrote: The Ranger is a 10 meter
radio, which can be modified to operate on the 12 meter ham band as
well. Anything else is pure speculation on your part, dimbulb.
_
wa3moj wroted: ROTFLMFAO how dense can you be Oh I
forgot your the same dickhead cranium who said there were no CBers on
the 10M band....

_
(Where did I say that? Please produce the post. What I said was that, as
of the time I made the post, I hadn't HEARD any of the so-called
"intruders" on ten meters. I've also posted that a few people (like you)
are making a huge mountain out of a tiny molehill, which appears to
still be the case. So please dredge up any post of mine where I said
otherwise.)




Of course you never said anything of the such. The loser has always lied
and attempted to place words in other folk's posts. He is a liar,
nothing more to it. He wants, no,,,,needs others to feel his shame.
_
wow Dickhead and twistihead you got very


upset at this thread you reply two or three


times to one post LOL!!!! both of you are awful
busy defending the intruders on 10 M and the


radios on the FCC banned list I wonder why.




WOW ! You just be as mad as Lelnad kc8ldo to take to his behavior and
start making things up...lol. One can ALWAYS tell when kc8ldo lelnad is
mad, about to pop and throw a coronary or cerebral vascular
accident,,,he starts posting forges and begins to babble
about...............(ahem) his deity.
Geogre is simply adorable with his obtuse mannerisms and manias. I made
no comment concerning any radio in this thread, but poor, collapsible
Geogre somehow interpreted it differently,,,,,no need to wonder
why,,,his severe communication deficit and mild retardations are
responsible.



"Tampa Bay Freeband Radio.......you know the one."


Twistedhed March 9th 04 03:45 PM

wa3moj mused poetic prose with:
Hey too bad sperm swallower, the flow of those radios is being cut off
and soon keyclowns like you will not be able to get them at truckstops
and on the internet. Go back to the pirate newsgroup and cry some more
about how its not fair and the FCC is spoiling your fun ROTFLMFAO

Cool! Icoms, Kenwoods, etc, have much more
features, and are not that much more


expensive. Fine business.




In the first place, Geogre is on the floor, voluntarily.,,leave it to
the 'ol dog trainah wh can teaach old, blind, stinky dogs new
tricks..LOL!
Yup,,,concerning the Icoms, this is exactly what I told Lelnad KC8LDO
back in '91 when he made the uneducated, off-the-cuff incorrect
prediction that the FCC enforcement actions were going to drive the
prices of exports sky high.


Twistedhed March 9th 04 04:06 PM

Awwww.....poor Dogie was mistaken for wa3moj,,,,my sincerest apologies,
Geogre,,,,LOL,,,but, after all, it was an honest mistake,,,,the way you
guys play identity games amongst yourselves, talk about gay
stuff,,,,,it's getting difficult to tell you two apart. One thing is
constant, you both are shamed as amateurs and were forced to hiding like
a common criminal. Wait a second,,,N8WWM is a common criminal,,he was
busted by the FCC for interfering on several occasions, the Toledo
Amateur Club's repeater, according to the Rain Report, put out by the
Federal Communications Commission.


gw March 9th 04 10:37 PM

"Andy in NJ" SHORECOGS at COMCAST DOT NET wrote in message ...
"gw" wrote in message
om...
hey numbnutts...get that crappy illegal radio off this newsgroup
asap.....it will not be sold here under any circumstances and your isp
has been alerted by your lords and masters to this illegal
activity...AKC4L....


Oops, but it WAS sold. Guess it slipped through Ebay's hands! :)

BTW - An ISP doesn't give 2 sh*ts if you're selling "illegal" radio
equipment. They are not technically knowledgable enough in radios to make a
determination if you're doing something illegal with them. Besides, they
want to continue to collect your fees every month. No need to kick someone
off for a petty "offense" as that.


oh really that is pure bull****. your lords and masters the akc had a
very important conference call with comcast about this insipid problem
and it was told to your lords and masters the akc that this problem
will be dealt with forthwith....put that in your crack pipe and smoke
it asshole...............AKC4L........

Steveo March 9th 04 11:48 PM

(gw) wrote:
"Andy in NJ" SHORECOGS at COMCAST DOT NET wrote in message
...
"gw" wrote in message
om...
hey numbnutts...get that crappy illegal radio off this newsgroup
asap.....it will not be sold here under any circumstances and your
isp has been alerted by your lords and masters to this illegal
activity...AKC4L....


Oops, but it WAS sold. Guess it slipped through Ebay's hands! :)

BTW - An ISP doesn't give 2 sh*ts if you're selling "illegal" radio
equipment. They are not technically knowledgable enough in radios to
make a determination if you're doing something illegal with them.
Besides, they want to continue to collect your fees every month. No
need to kick someone off for a petty "offense" as that.


oh really that is pure bull****. your lords and masters the akc had a
very important conference call with comcast

Newslash: Comcast doesn't give a rats ass about usenet, in fact
they farm their newsfeed out now.

Try another angle, douchebag.

Richard Cranium March 10th 04 12:57 AM

(I Am Not George) wrote in message om...
(Richard Cranium) wrote:
(I Am Not George) wrote in message om...
(Twistedhed) wrote in message ...
From:
(Richard Cranium)
(I Am Not George) wrote in message
om...
(Richard Cranium) wrote:
The Ranger is a 10 meter radio, which can be modified to operate

on
the
12 meter ham band as well. Anything else is pure speculation on

your
part, dimbulb.


ROTFLMFAO how dense can you be Oh I


forgot your the same dickhead cranium who


said there were no CBers on the 10M band....


(Where did I say that? Please produce the post. What I said was

that,
as
of the time I made the post, I hadn't HEARD any of the so-called
"intruders" on ten meters. I've also posted that a few people

(like
you)
are making a huge mountain out of a tiny molehill, which appears

to
still be the case. So please dredge up any post of mine where I

said
otherwise.)


Of course you never said anything of the such. The loser has

always
lied
and attempted to place words in other folk's posts. He is a liar,
nothing more to it. He wants, no,,,,needs others to feel his

shame.



wow Dickhead and twistihead you got very upset at this thread you
reply two or three times to one post LOL!!!!


Lie.

both of you are awful
busy defending the intruders on 10 M and the radios on the FCC

banned
list I wonder why.


Lie. I haven't defended anything or anybody. I question your actions
and your motives, along with your extremely selective attempts at
being a FCC agent and internet cop. You are a pathetic, sick little
man, DouGay; no wonder your Mommy died of embarassment!

As usual, you ignore facts and legitimate questions because they

don't
fit your illogical preconceived notions.

If you bother to read the FCC stuff you have been spamming the
newsgroup with, you'd see that amateur transceivers do not require

FCC
type acceptance before being imported. The Ranger is imported as an
amateur radio: It's a 10 meter (and 12 meter, if modified) rig and
it's perfectly legal for such use. I have never said (nor has Twist
that I've found) that it's legal for use on CB.

It's only you that can't figure it out.

Which makes you the village idiot, doesn't it DouGay? And you're real
proud of yourself, too. But don't worry, we humor idiots here.
Sometimes.


Hey too bad sperm swallower


You're a sperm swallower? Figures.

, the flow of those radios is being cut off
and soon keyclowns like you will not be able to get them at truckstops
and on the internet. Go back to the pirate newsgroup and cry some more
about how its not fair and the FCC is spoiling your fun ROTFLMFAO


I don't shop at truckstops. Why would I when amateur stores sell
better radios? And they're much easier to modify: Clip one wire or a
diode and you have DC to light coverage! You're really missing the
boat here, DouGay Adair.

So you're claiming that you've found a way to cut off the import of
Icoms, Kenwoods, and Yaesu radios? LOL! Dream on, loser.

What a maroon you are, DouGay. You always were and you always will be
the village idiot! Thanks for the comic relief.

Have to wonder why even Georgie-girl doesn't chime in with you
anymore, though. You two fags have a spat?

Twistedhed March 10th 04 01:50 PM

Richard Cranium wrote:
Have to wonder why even Georgie-girl doesn't
chime in anymore


Ahh,,you noticed,,,since Geogre was disciplined by Comcast,,the number
of postings to this group have decreased dramatically.


Landshark March 11th 04 03:32 AM


"Twistedhed" wrote in message
...
Richard Cranium wrote:
Have to wonder why even Georgie-girl doesn't
chime in anymore


Ahh,,you noticed,,,since Geogre was disciplined by Comcast,,the number
of postings to this group have decreased dramatically.



Yup. Also the amounts of screen nics & type of
language used when he does change nics has changed.
At least he's not as foul mouthed or perverted on his
posts anymore.

Landshark


--
Hard things are put in our way,
not to stop us, but to call out our
courage and strength.



Landshark March 11th 04 02:23 PM


"Beck Blows Goats" wrote in message
...
"Landshark" wrote in news:W4R3c.36887$2j.20319
@newssvr25.news.prodigy.com:


"Twistedhed" wrote in message
...
Richard Cranium wrote:
Have to wonder why even Georgie-girl doesn't
chime in anymore

Ahh,,you noticed,,,since Geogre was disciplined by Comcast,,the number
of postings to this group have decreased dramatically.



Yup. Also the amounts of screen nics & type of
language used when he does change nics has changed.
At least he's not as foul mouthed or perverted on his
posts anymore.

Landshark


Ohhh eat **** you transexual homo, your impotent bunch did nothing.
I control what I want to say and when I say it. Always have always will,
shame your gay sorry ass still doesnt talk about CB, always just mythical
"george". now watch gayshark make a post about CB's since I said
something.


Yawn, yes this is our George Busch WA3MOJ of
Allentown Pa. If you are a lurker here and you see a post
like this one and are upset by his foul language, check properties
and see if it from ComCast 68.45.67.196
You can then send a complete copy including headers to
, use the following letter as a guide
line:

To whom it may concern,
I and I'm sure numerous others have complained about
this individual, with his constant harassing, foul language,
false accusations and off topic posts. Now you might say kill
file him, you can't! He is always changing his screen address to purposely
by pass kill file filters, as is evident with the proof I
am including. I have asked him very very politely to please stop changing
his screen nic, but to no avail.
I ask that you have this person refrain from doing these things,
they are a clear violation of your Terms Of Service agreement
and as such, he obligated as I am with his ISP to follow them


So Again George, I ask that you stop changing screen nics
to harass me and stop using such foul vulgar language to harrass
me and others.

Landshark


--
Hard things are put in our way,
not to stop us, but to call out our
courage and strength.



gw March 11th 04 08:26 PM

"Landshark" wrote in message . com...
"Beck Blows Goats" wrote in message
...
"Landshark" wrote in news:W4R3c.36887$2j.20319
@newssvr25.news.prodigy.com:


"Twistedhed" wrote in message
...
Richard Cranium wrote:
Have to wonder why even Georgie-girl doesn't
chime in anymore

Ahh,,you noticed,,,since Geogre was disciplined by Comcast,,the number
of postings to this group have decreased dramatically.


Yup. Also the amounts of screen nics & type of
language used when he does change nics has changed.
At least he's not as foul mouthed or perverted on his
posts anymore.

Landshark


Ohhh eat **** you transexual homo, your impotent bunch did nothing.
I control what I want to say and when I say it. Always have always will,
shame your gay sorry ass still doesnt talk about CB, always just mythical
"george". now watch gayshark make a post about CB's since I said
something.


Yawn, yes this is our George Busch WA3MOJ of
Allentown Pa. If you are a lurker here and you see a post
like this one and are upset by his foul language, check properties
and see if it from ComCast 68.45.67.196
You can then send a complete copy including headers to
, use the following letter as a guide
line:

To whom it may concern,
I and I'm sure numerous others have complained about
this individual, with his constant harassing, foul language,
false accusations and off topic posts. Now you might say kill
file him, you can't! He is always changing his screen address to purposely
by pass kill file filters, as is evident with the proof I
am including. I have asked him very very politely to please stop changing
his screen nic, but to no avail.
I ask that you have this person refrain from doing these things,
they are a clear violation of your Terms Of Service agreement
and as such, he obligated as I am with his ISP to follow them


So Again George, I ask that you stop changing screen nics
to harass me and stop using such foul vulgar language to harrass
me and others.

Landshark



does the term transshark bother you??? may i ask why??? ....AKC4L.......

Randy March 11th 04 11:48 PM


"Transhark" wrote in message
...
(gw) wrote in
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"Landshark" wrote in message
. com...
"Beck Blows Goats" wrote in message
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"Landshark" wrote in
news:W4R3c.36887$2j.20319 @newssvr25.news.prodigy.com:


"Twistedhed" wrote in message
...
Richard Cranium wrote:
Have to wonder why even Georgie-girl doesn't
chime in anymore

Ahh,,you noticed,,,since Geogre was disciplined by Comcast,,the
number
of postings to this group have decreased dramatically.


Yup. Also the amounts of screen nics & type of
language used when he does change nics has changed.
At least he's not as foul mouthed or perverted on his
posts anymore.

Landshark

Ohhh eat **** you transexual homo, your impotent bunch did nothing.
I control what I want to say and when I say it. Always have always
will, shame your gay sorry ass still doesnt talk about CB, always
just mythical "george". now watch gayshark make a post about CB's
since I said something.

Yawn, yes this is our George Busch WA3MOJ of
Allentown Pa. If you are a lurker here and you see a post
like this one and are upset by his foul language, check properties
and see if it from ComCast 68.45.67.196
You can then send a complete copy including headers to
, use the following letter as a guide
line:

To whom it may concern,
I and I'm sure numerous others have complained about
this individual, with his constant harassing, foul language,
false accusations and off topic posts. Now you might say kill
file him, you can't! He is always changing his screen address to
purposely by pass kill file filters, as is evident with the proof I
am including. I have asked him very very politely to please stop
changing his screen nic, but to no avail.
I ask that you have this person refrain from doing these things,
they are a clear violation of your Terms Of Service agreement
and as such, he obligated as I am with his ISP to follow them


So Again George, I ask that you stop changing screen nics
to harass me and stop using such foul vulgar language to harrass
me and others.

Landshark



does the term transshark bother you??? may i ask why???
....AKC4L.......



It sure does bother him truth always had a way of doing that to the him.
I like where he says false accusations? And off topic posts, LOL He is
king of both of them ROFLMAO, In fact look at this post from yesterday,
it was certainly off topic and posted only to malign, harass. here he
talks of his kill file again, the same one where he said I was killfiled
yet replies to my posts selectivly. I have a dossier of his posts in the
event I need to prove how he operates. Kinda like he lied to his isp when
he forged
. Notice his post have nothing to do with CB
radios, why does he post here?


Dammit Geo! Stop accusing him of doing that. I told you I forged WA3MOJ.
Please try to keep things straight.



I Am Not God March 12th 04 02:13 AM


"Dammit" wrote in message
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"Randy" wrote in
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"Transhark" wrote in message
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(gw) wrote in
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"Landshark" wrote in message
. com...
"Beck Blows Goats" wrote in message
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"Landshark" wrote in
news:W4R3c.36887$2j.20319 @newssvr25.news.prodigy.com:


"Twistedhed" wrote in message
...
Richard Cranium wrote:
Have to wonder why even Georgie-girl doesn't
chime in anymore

Ahh,,you noticed,,,since Geogre was disciplined by
Comcast,,the number
of postings to this group have decreased dramatically.


Yup. Also the amounts of screen nics & type of
language used when he does change nics has changed.
At least he's not as foul mouthed or perverted on his
posts anymore.

Landshark

Ohhh eat **** you transexual homo, your impotent bunch did
nothing. I control what I want to say and when I say it. Always
have always will, shame your gay sorry ass still doesnt talk
about CB, always just mythical "george". now watch gayshark
make a post about CB's since I said something.

Yawn, yes this is our George Busch WA3MOJ of
Allentown Pa. If you are a lurker here and you see a post
like this one and are upset by his foul language, check properties
and see if it from ComCast 68.45.67.196
You can then send a complete copy including headers to
, use the following letter as a guide
line:

To whom it may concern,
I and I'm sure numerous others have complained about
this individual, with his constant harassing, foul language,
false accusations and off topic posts. Now you might say kill
file him, you can't! He is always changing his screen address to
purposely by pass kill file filters, as is evident with the proof
I am including. I have asked him very very politely to please stop
changing his screen nic, but to no avail.
I ask that you have this person refrain from doing these things,
they are a clear violation of your Terms Of Service agreement
and as such, he obligated as I am with his ISP to follow them


So Again George, I ask that you stop changing screen nics
to harass me and stop using such foul vulgar language to harrass
me and others.

Landshark


does the term transshark bother you??? may i ask why???
....AKC4L.......



It sure does bother him truth always had a way of doing that to the
him. I like where he says false accusations? And off topic posts, LOL
He is king of both of them ROFLMAO, In fact look at this post from
yesterday, it was certainly off topic and posted only to malign,
harass. here he talks of his kill file again, the same one where he
said I was killfiled yet replies to my posts selectivly. I have a
dossier of his posts in the event I need to prove how he operates.
Kinda like he lied to his isp when he forged
. Notice
his post have nothing to do with CB radios, why does he post here?


Dammit Geo! Stop accusing him of doing that. I told you I forged
WA3MOJ. Please try to keep things straight.



I know you did Randy, but so did he, look on google a few months ago. He
forged you're wa3moj@aol account. Thanks for reconfirming it. Do you own
a CB?


He forged *my* account? Now that's funny!



I Am Not God March 12th 04 02:16 AM


"Dammit" wrote in message
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"Randy" wrote in
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"Transhark" wrote in message
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(gw) wrote in
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"Landshark" wrote in message
. com...
"Beck Blows Goats" wrote in message
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"Landshark" wrote in
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"Twistedhed" wrote in message
...
Richard Cranium wrote:
Have to wonder why even Georgie-girl doesn't
chime in anymore

Ahh,,you noticed,,,since Geogre was disciplined by
Comcast,,the number
of postings to this group have decreased dramatically.


Yup. Also the amounts of screen nics & type of
language used when he does change nics has changed.
At least he's not as foul mouthed or perverted on his
posts anymore.

Landshark

Ohhh eat **** you transexual homo, your impotent bunch did
nothing. I control what I want to say and when I say it. Always
have always will, shame your gay sorry ass still doesnt talk
about CB, always just mythical "george". now watch gayshark
make a post about CB's since I said something.

Yawn, yes this is our George Busch WA3MOJ of
Allentown Pa. If you are a lurker here and you see a post
like this one and are upset by his foul language, check properties
and see if it from ComCast 68.45.67.196
You can then send a complete copy including headers to
, use the following letter as a guide
line:

To whom it may concern,
I and I'm sure numerous others have complained about
this individual, with his constant harassing, foul language,
false accusations and off topic posts. Now you might say kill
file him, you can't! He is always changing his screen address to
purposely by pass kill file filters, as is evident with the proof
I am including. I have asked him very very politely to please stop
changing his screen nic, but to no avail.
I ask that you have this person refrain from doing these things,
they are a clear violation of your Terms Of Service agreement
and as such, he obligated as I am with his ISP to follow them


So Again George, I ask that you stop changing screen nics
to harass me and stop using such foul vulgar language to harrass
me and others.

Landshark


does the term transshark bother you??? may i ask why???
....AKC4L.......



It sure does bother him truth always had a way of doing that to the
him. I like where he says false accusations? And off topic posts, LOL
He is king of both of them ROFLMAO, In fact look at this post from
yesterday, it was certainly off topic and posted only to malign,
harass. here he talks of his kill file again, the same one where he
said I was killfiled yet replies to my posts selectivly. I have a
dossier of his posts in the event I need to prove how he operates.
Kinda like he lied to his isp when he forged
. Notice
his post have nothing to do with CB radios, why does he post here?


Dammit Geo! Stop accusing him of doing that. I told you I forged
WA3MOJ. Please try to keep things straight.



I know you did Randy, but so did he, look on google a few months ago. He
forged you're wa3moj@aol account. Thanks for reconfirming it. Do you own
a CB?


Not exactly, but I do own lots of radios. I have talked on a CB radio in the
past. Is that good enough? Do you own a CB?



Landshark March 12th 04 05:56 AM


"Steveo" wrote in message
...
Dammit wrote:
Do you own a CB?

Nice to see you're on topic, after you got spanked.


Yes it has been nice and quite, now if
we can get the French to cooperate.

Landshark


--
The world is good-natured to people
who are good natured.




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