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Chris April 12th 04 06:08 AM

Powering Condenser Mic with Capacitor
 
I have a Uniden Pro510XL that uses a condenser mic element powered off the
radio. It sounds great but is prone to squealing if there is any power. I
saw somewhere that a guy used a capacitor to power the mic element. This
will probably fix it. Can anyone tell me or point me to a link on how to do
this.

Chris



AKC KennelMaster April 12th 04 07:17 AM


"Chris" wrote in message
ink.net...
I have a Uniden Pro510XL that uses a condenser mic element powered off the
radio. It sounds great but is prone to squealing if there is any power. I
saw somewhere that a guy used a capacitor to power the mic element. This
will probably fix it. Can anyone tell me or point me to a link on how to

do
this.

Chris


You might look up the old K40 line of mics. They had one that was a
processor/amp, that used a cap to supply power. Of course, to supply power
to a transistor as opposed to an IC, this might not really be a workable
scenario.



I Am Not George April 12th 04 06:44 PM

"AKC KennelMaster" wrote in message ...
"Chris" wrote in message
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I have a Uniden Pro510XL that uses a condenser mic
element powered off the
radio. It sounds great but is prone to squealing if there is any power. I
saw somewhere that a guy used a capacitor to power the
mic element. This
will probably fix it. Can anyone tell me or point me to a link on how to

do
this.

Chris


You might look up the old K40 line of mics. They had one that was a
processor/amp, that used a cap to supply power. Of course, to
supply power
to a transistor as opposed to an IC, this might not really be a workable
scenario.


When you say prone to squealing if there is any power I dont know what
you mean. If you mean you are using an amp then you should know those
radios are not designed for that. RF will get into the unsheilded
areas esp. the eletret mike. The capacitor is already there in the
citcuit you dont need another one, just dont run power and youll have
no problem.

Chris April 12th 04 09:54 PM

You guessed it right. Just a small amp. I know the Pro510XL has problems
because power is supplied to the mic by the radio. If it were powered by a
battery, it would be fine. There is, however, an alternate method in which
the power is supplied to the mic element by a capacitor. It is charged
during receive and then switched over to power the electret element during
transmit. I just don't remember the details. BTW, it's nice to see some
people willing to discuss radios and help rather than trashing the NG.
Thanks and 73's.

Chris
"I Am Not George" wrote in message
m...
"AKC KennelMaster" wrote in message

...
"Chris" wrote in message
ink.net...
I have a Uniden Pro510XL that uses a condenser mic
element powered off the
radio. It sounds great but is prone to squealing if there is any

power. I
saw somewhere that a guy used a capacitor to power the
mic element. This
will probably fix it. Can anyone tell me or point me to a link on how

to
do
this.

Chris


You might look up the old K40 line of mics. They had one that was a
processor/amp, that used a cap to supply power. Of course, to
supply power
to a transistor as opposed to an IC, this might not really be a workable
scenario.


When you say prone to squealing if there is any power I dont know what
you mean. If you mean you are using an amp then you should know those
radios are not designed for that. RF will get into the unsheilded
areas esp. the eletret mike. The capacitor is already there in the
citcuit you dont need another one, just dont run power and youll have
no problem.




I Am Not George April 12th 04 10:09 PM

"Chris" wrote:
You guessed it right. Just a small amp. I know the Pro510XL has

problems
because power is supplied to the mic by the radio. If it were powered

by
a
battery, it would be fine. There is, however, an alternate method in

which
the power is supplied to the mic element by a capacitor. It is

charged
during receive and then switched over to power the electret element

during
transmit. I just don't remember the details. BTW, it's nice to see

some
people willing to discuss radios and help rather than trashing the

NG.
Thanks and 73's.



You might be thinking of an rf bypass capcitor. in any case it doesnt
matter how the mike element is powered it matters how the RF is
getting in to it. anything could carry rf, the mike cable, the ground
line, the ptt line. as I said the cb is not designed for more than 4w
so they get away with cheap design in that area. If you want to
persue troubleshooting it try Frank G or one of the hams in this group

MrTimNebo April 12th 04 10:24 PM

a uniden pc68xl is a much better choice in a radio.



Steveo April 12th 04 11:25 PM

(MrTimNebo) wrote:
a uniden pc68xl is a much better choice in a radio.

Bring back TimNebo.com! :)

George Kinzer April 13th 04 04:23 AM

"power is supplied to the mic by the radio"
WTF? huh?

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jim April 13th 04 11:15 PM



Steveo wrote:
(MrTimNebo) wrote:

a uniden pc68xl is a much better choice in a radio.


Bring back TimNebo.com! :)


seconded...


Steveo April 14th 04 12:15 AM

jim wrote:
Steveo wrote:
(MrTimNebo) wrote:

a uniden pc68xl is a much better choice in a radio.


Bring back TimNebo.com! :)


seconded...

I wish I would of saved the pics.

jim April 14th 04 12:20 AM



Steveo wrote:
jim wrote:

Steveo wrote:

(MrTimNebo) wrote:


a uniden pc68xl is a much better choice in a radio.


Bring back TimNebo.com! :)


seconded...


I wish I would of saved the pics.


thinking about it steve so do i. hehehe. any more races you going to?


Steveo April 14th 04 12:27 AM

jim wrote:
Steveo wrote:
jim wrote:

Steveo wrote:

(MrTimNebo) wrote:


a uniden pc68xl is a much better choice in a radio.


Bring back TimNebo.com! :)

seconded...


I wish I would of saved the pics.


thinking about it steve so do i. hehehe. any more races you going to?

Mansfield is running the trucks next month, but I'm not really a
truck fan. I may go anyway?

I'd like to do Bristol again this year, under the lights. That
all hinges on ticket prices tho. I'll have my Mopars out to
Norwalk a few times too. We're renting the strip for a day
next month..12 guys. Makes for more passes, and tuning time.

Wanna go to Bristol under the lights with me?

Road Warrior April 14th 04 12:38 AM

Steveo wrote:
jim wrote:
Steveo wrote:
(MrTimNebo) wrote:

a uniden pc68xl is a much better choice in a radio.


Bring back TimNebo.com! :)


seconded...

I wish I would of saved the pics.


I am sure I mentioned this place to you befo
www.archive.org They keep
snapshots of every website that has ever been taken down. IIRC, they call
it automated web crawling.


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jim April 14th 04 12:39 AM



Steveo wrote:
jim wrote:

Steveo wrote:

jim wrote:


Steveo wrote:


(MrTimNebo) wrote:



a uniden pc68xl is a much better choice in a radio.


Bring back TimNebo.com! :)

seconded...


I wish I would of saved the pics.


thinking about it steve so do i. hehehe. any more races you going to?


Mansfield is running the trucks next month, but I'm not really a
truck fan. I may go anyway?

I'd like to do Bristol again this year, under the lights. That
all hinges on ticket prices tho. I'll have my Mopars out to
Norwalk a few times too. We're renting the strip for a day
next month..12 guys. Makes for more passes, and tuning time.

Wanna go to Bristol under the lights with me?


hmmmmmm i may have to take you up on that. depends on when the second
story on the house is done.


Steveo April 14th 04 12:40 AM

"Road Warrior" wrote:
Steveo wrote:
jim wrote:
Steveo wrote:
(MrTimNebo) wrote:

a uniden pc68xl is a much better choice in a radio.


Bring back TimNebo.com! :)

seconded...

I wish I would of saved the pics.


I am sure I mentioned this place to you befo
www.archive.org They
keep snapshots of every website that has ever been taken down. IIRC,
they call it automated web crawling.

Do us a favor and see if timnebo.com is on there, please.

Steveo April 14th 04 01:00 AM

jim wrote:
Steveo wrote:
jim wrote:

Steveo wrote:

jim wrote:


Steveo wrote:


(MrTimNebo) wrote:



a uniden pc68xl is a much better choice in a radio.


Bring back TimNebo.com! :)

seconded...


I wish I would of saved the pics.

thinking about it steve so do i. hehehe. any more races you going to?


Mansfield is running the trucks next month, but I'm not really a
truck fan. I may go anyway?

I'd like to do Bristol again this year, under the lights. That
all hinges on ticket prices tho. I'll have my Mopars out to
Norwalk a few times too. We're renting the strip for a day
next month..12 guys. Makes for more passes, and tuning time.

Wanna go to Bristol under the lights with me?


hmmmmmm i may have to take you up on that. depends on when the second
story on the house is done.

Hmmm. I'm pricing tickets now. Let me know soon.

jim April 14th 04 01:12 AM



Steveo wrote:
jim wrote:

Steveo wrote:

jim wrote:


Steveo wrote:


jim wrote:



Steveo wrote:



(MrTimNebo) wrote:




a uniden pc68xl is a much better choice in a radio.


Bring back TimNebo.com! :)

seconded...


I wish I would of saved the pics.

thinking about it steve so do i. hehehe. any more races you going to?


Mansfield is running the trucks next month, but I'm not really a
truck fan. I may go anyway?

I'd like to do Bristol again this year, under the lights. That
all hinges on ticket prices tho. I'll have my Mopars out to
Norwalk a few times too. We're renting the strip for a day
next month..12 guys. Makes for more passes, and tuning time.

Wanna go to Bristol under the lights with me?


hmmmmmm i may have to take you up on that. depends on when the second
story on the house is done.


Hmmm. I'm pricing tickets now. Let me know soon.


whats the date?


Steveo April 14th 04 01:17 AM

jim wrote:
Steveo wrote:
jim wrote:

Steveo wrote:

jim wrote:


Steveo wrote:


jim wrote:



Steveo wrote:



(MrTimNebo) wrote:




a uniden pc68xl is a much better choice in a radio.


Bring back TimNebo.com! :)

seconded...


I wish I would of saved the pics.

thinking about it steve so do i. hehehe. any more races you going to?


Mansfield is running the trucks next month, but I'm not really a
truck fan. I may go anyway?

I'd like to do Bristol again this year, under the lights. That
all hinges on ticket prices tho. I'll have my Mopars out to
Norwalk a few times too. We're renting the strip for a day
next month..12 guys. Makes for more passes, and tuning time.

Wanna go to Bristol under the lights with me?

hmmmmmm i may have to take you up on that. depends on when the second
story on the house is done.


Hmmm. I'm pricing tickets now. Let me know soon.


whats the date?

SHARPIE 500 NEXTEL CUP SERIES RACE (August 28, 2004) $94 ea. (SOLD OUT)

We get there fri and come home monday.

AKC KennelMaster April 14th 04 02:01 AM


"Steveo" wrote in message
...
"Road Warrior" wrote:
Steveo wrote:
jim wrote:
Steveo wrote:
(MrTimNebo) wrote:

a uniden pc68xl is a much better choice in a radio.


Bring back TimNebo.com! :)

seconded...

I wish I would of saved the pics.


I am sure I mentioned this place to you befo
www.archive.org They
keep snapshots of every website that has ever been taken down. IIRC,
they call it automated web crawling.

Do us a favor and see if timnebo.com is on there, please.


Yep, Tim is there.



Steveo April 14th 04 02:02 AM

"AKC KennelMaster" wrote:
"Steveo" wrote in message
...
"Road Warrior" wrote:
Steveo wrote:
jim wrote:
Steveo wrote:
(MrTimNebo) wrote:

a uniden pc68xl is a much better choice in a radio.


Bring back TimNebo.com! :)

seconded...

I wish I would of saved the pics.

I am sure I mentioned this place to you befo
www.archive.org
They keep snapshots of every website that has ever been taken down.
IIRC, they call it automated web crawling.

Do us a favor and see if timnebo.com is on there, please.


Yep, Tim is there.

Url? can you link?

AKC KennelMaster April 14th 04 02:18 AM


"Steveo" wrote in message
...
"AKC KennelMaster" wrote:
"Steveo" wrote in message
...
"Road Warrior" wrote:
Steveo wrote:
jim wrote:
Steveo wrote:
(MrTimNebo) wrote:

a uniden pc68xl is a much better choice in a radio.


Bring back TimNebo.com! :)

seconded...

I wish I would of saved the pics.

I am sure I mentioned this place to you befo
www.archive.org
They keep snapshots of every website that has ever been taken down.
IIRC, they call it automated web crawling.

Do us a favor and see if timnebo.com is on there, please.


Yep, Tim is there.

Url? can you link?


Try this one:

http://web.archive.org/web/*/http://www.timnebo.com



Steveo April 14th 04 02:34 AM

"AKC KennelMaster" wrote:
"Steveo" wrote in message
...
"AKC KennelMaster" wrote:
"Steveo" wrote in message
...
"Road Warrior" wrote:
Steveo wrote:
jim wrote:
Steveo wrote:
(MrTimNebo) wrote:

a uniden pc68xl is a much better choice in a radio.


Bring back TimNebo.com! :)

seconded...

I wish I would of saved the pics.

I am sure I mentioned this place to you befo
www.archive.org
They keep snapshots of every website that has ever been taken
down. IIRC, they call it automated web crawling.

Do us a favor and see if timnebo.com is on there, please.

Yep, Tim is there.

Url? can you link?


Try this one:

http://web.archive.org/web/*/http://www.timnebo.com

No good here..i want to see those pics of tim holding
up those massive buds and butts!

MrTimNebo April 14th 04 04:38 PM

I wish I would of saved the pics.

which ones u like?

MrTimNebo April 14th 04 04:43 PM

sorry dude but ive left the weed alone and i dont smoke anymore. it was taking
too much time away from my hoes.......

http://members.aol.com/mrtimnebo/MeandSavannah.jpg



Steveo April 14th 04 05:16 PM

(MrTimNebo) wrote:
sorry dude but ive left the weed alone and i dont smoke anymore. it was
taking too much time away from my hoes.......

http://members.aol.com/mrtimnebo/MeandSavannah.jpg

A man's gotta know his limitations.

Steveo April 14th 04 05:21 PM

(MrTimNebo) wrote:
I wish I would of saved the pics.


which ones u like?

They were all pretty good, thanks for the one you posted, and feel
free to post more.


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