"Dave Hall" wrote in message
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On Fri, 14 May 2004 04:13:14 GMT, "Landshark"
So, can I assume then that you have no alternative answer? Should we
just allow society to regress in much the same manner as operators on
CB radio did?

There's not much you can do about society as a whole.

A single individual cannot make much of a difference. But if every
individual joined with other like-minded individuals, pretty soon you
develop a force to be reckoned with.

A noble idea, but IMHO not viable

You
can only make your part of society the best you can. Raise
the children with good values and to respect their elders.

A lot of good it does when they are thrust into a world which does not
share those well taught values. When your (and mine) kid has to hang
out with other kids who think it's cool to be stupid, indifferent, or
rebellious (even if they don't fully understand what they're rebelling
against), all of that good upbringing goes out the window unless they
have a strong support system.


Actually it does a lot of good. If you taught them right and they
can tell the difference between right & wrong, they won't hangout
with those "other" kids. As you said, did dumb things when younger
and since have learned better, that's what you hope you can instill
into your children, but maybe a little earlier than you & I.


I can not see the regress of CB as the eminent downfall
of society.

One is simply a reflection of the other. The gradual, but definite,
regression of morality and good character is evident on both CB and in
society as a whole. Having been involved with CB radio for the better
part of 30+ years, I had a front row seat for the show.

How far this "regression" continues remains to be seen.


Well a lot has to do with location, location, location. Been
through a lot of place in the state and mostly the big cities
have the agitators. The burbs and small places usually are
pretty A-typical type of CB.


Technology offers yet another solution. GPS technology and OBD-II
emission control systems can be integrated to the point where all
functions of the car can be monitored. If the car travels down a
road
over the posted speed limit, it sends a little "On-Star" type
message
to a LEO, and a ticket in then issued. This has the added benefit
of
enabling the tracking of the car if it were to be stolen. This is
similar to the idea of mounting cameras to take pictures of people
running red lights.
People will scream "Big Brother". But maybe that's what it takes
when
you can't trust people to behave on their own.

Already done, dismissed in the courts. A rental car agency
was doing that, issuing speeding tickets to thier customers,
the courts ordered them to stop.

There's a difference between a rental car agency and a provision in
the law. If the law were changed, it would be allowed. Your testimony
only proves that the technology is viable.

Yes Technology is available, but it won't be used, at least
probably not in our lifetime.

I'm curious to know why you feel that way.

I just don't think the general public at large is going to let
the government know where they are at all times, as
you said "Big Brother".

As for the rental car agency,
they were turning them into the state troopers, the DA then
threw the cases out of court.

Most likely a case of expectation of privacy. A joke. People have the
right to privacy so that they can break laws with a reasonable chance
of getting away with it.

Well yes & no. You are right on they can break laws, but those
same laws are there to protect you and I.


Good Luck! I've gone to the city and county councils, tried
to get the street closed at one end, to prevent all the people
from speeding down my street to get over to their street
faster, but not a chance. Speed bumps? Yeah right! I
don't want to hear the sound of cars "jumping" the speed
bumps at all hours of the night & day. So the best they
can offer is "selective" enforcement, LOL!! Useless!

Hmm.... I'm not sure how I want to proceed here. On the one hand I
can
lambast you for your duplicitous position with regard to "selective"
speeding (It's ok, just don't do it on my street).

Yeah you could, but then this thread will have gone from a
civil thread to an abusive thread.

Not really. I don't lambast people directly, only their ideas.


I am a little that way, as for
around town I don't really speed, out in the coutry side, on
the bike, yeah. But again about the worst that can happen there
is tha I kill myself. As for on the freeway, Bronco doesn't go
over 70MPH, so don't speed there. My other cars on the
freeway, I'll admit that I ocassionally go over the speed limit,
but nothing dramatic, most cars are still passing me, so the
cops go by me and catch the guy that's going 20-30 MPH
over the speed limit.

Same thing here. I never speed in a residential area. I may push it to
60 or 62 MPH on the highway, since they can't cite you in Pa, until
you exceed 5 MPH over the limit.

Speed limit in this state on the highways and freeways is
between 55 & 75 MPH.

We still have many highways which are 55 MPH. Others (out of
residential areas) are 65 MPH. None higher than that.

Dave
"Sandbagger"