wrote:

Huh......... A bent over 9 foot whip has a very noticeable Loss
compared to a efficient 4 or 5 foot vertical.

how do you know have you modeled it hoople head?

Many times...........even tested them.


Sorry your tests results were debunked by Frank in the xterminator
thread, you are a voodoo tech

(I Am Not George) wrote:
wrote:

Huh......... A bent over 9 foot whip has a very noticeable Loss
compared to a efficient 4 or 5 foot vertical.

how do you know have you modeled it hoople head?

Many times...........even tested them.

Sorry your tests results were debunked by Frank in the xterminator
thread, you are a voodoo tech

You sure do like to speak for Frank and Leland. hmmm

--
I won't retire, but I might retread.

On 14 Jun 2004 19:53:19 -0700, (I Am Not
George) wrote:

wrote:

Huh......... A bent over 9 foot whip has a very noticeable Loss
compared to a efficient 4 or 5 foot vertical.

how do you know have you modeled it hoople head?

Many times...........even tested them.


Sorry your tests results were debunked by Frank in the xterminator
thread, you are a voodoo tech

In your opinion. The subject has nothing to do with that. It has to do
with a bent over antenna becoming a poor antenna.

On Tue, 15 Jun 2004 05:10:57 -0400, wrote:

On 14 Jun 2004 19:53:19 -0700, (I Am Not
George) wrote:

wrote:

Huh......... A bent over 9 foot whip has a very noticeable Loss
compared to a efficient 4 or 5 foot vertical.

how do you know have you modeled it hoople head?

Many times...........even tested them.


Sorry your tests results were debunked by Frank in the xterminator
thread, you are a voodoo tech

In your opinion. The subject has nothing to do with that. It has to do
with a bent over antenna becoming a poor antenna.

Yeah, if you really want to improve the efficiency of your antenna,
bend it over and put the high voltage node close to a large mass of
metal. LOL.

Lancer wrote in message . ..
On Tue, 15 Jun 2004 05:10:57 -0400, wrote:

On 14 Jun 2004 19:53:19 -0700, (I Am Not
George) wrote:

wrote:

Huh......... A bent over 9 foot whip has a very noticeable Loss
compared to a efficient 4 or 5 foot vertical.

how do you know have you modeled it hoople head?

Many times...........even tested them.


Sorry your tests results were debunked by Frank in the xterminator
thread, you are a voodoo tech

In your opinion. The subject has nothing to do with that. It has to do
with a bent over antenna becoming a poor antenna.

Yeah, if you really want to improve the efficiency of your antenna,
bend it over and put the high voltage node close to a large mass of
metal. LOL.

I didnt say the whip was close to a large mass of metal I said bent
over like a bow and that means in free space, assteroid.

lol remember I said

if you want efficient youd be using a 9 ft whip. even bent over
like a bow the 9 ft is more efficient than a 4 ft loaded open air
coil model.

then asshole said

wrote
Huh......... A bent over 9 foot whip has a very noticeable Loss
compared to a efficient 4 or 5 foot vertical.

now hoople head says

wrote
Modeling, showed that the Max Horizontal field is
broadside to the antenna and Max vertical is more inline with the
direction that its bent. Does your news server carry
alt.binaries.pictures.radio? I put a jpeg of it there.
Red is The Hor field, Black is the Vert

I dont see any big loss there tnom I see only gain gain and more gain.
Yes clip your whip Barney style and point the car in the direction you
want to talk and you got gain, no illegal amp needed lol

On 16 Jun 2004 12:13:45 -0700, (I Am Not
George) wrote:

lol remember I said

if you want efficient youd be using a 9 ft whip. even bent over
like a bow the 9 ft is more efficient than a 4 ft loaded open air
coil model.

then asshole said

wrote
Huh......... A bent over 9 foot whip has a very noticeable Loss
compared to a efficient 4 or 5 foot vertical.

now hoople head says

wrote
Modeling, showed that the Max Horizontal field is
broadside to the antenna and Max vertical is more inline with the
direction that its bent. Does your news server carry
alt.binaries.pictures.radio? I put a jpeg of it there.
Red is The Hor field, Black is the Vert

I dont see any big loss there tnom I see only gain gain and more gain.
Yes clip your whip Barney style and point the car in the direction you
want to talk and you got gain, no illegal amp needed lol

You don't see any gain compared to a vertical 1/4 antenna from that
plot. All you see are far field patterns. Try again Dimwit.

On 16 Jun 2004 12:13:45 -0700, (I Am Not
George) wrote:

lol remember I said

if you want efficient youd be using a 9 ft whip. even bent over
like a bow the 9 ft is more efficient than a 4 ft loaded open air
coil model.

then asshole said

wrote
Huh......... A bent over 9 foot whip has a very noticeable Loss
compared to a efficient 4 or 5 foot vertical.

now hoople head says

wrote
Modeling, showed that the Max Horizontal field is
broadside to the antenna and Max vertical is more inline with the
direction that its bent. Does your news server carry
alt.binaries.pictures.radio? I put a jpeg of it there.
Red is The Hor field, Black is the Vert

I dont see any big loss there tnom I see only gain gain and more gain.
Yes clip your whip Barney style and point the car in the direction you
want to talk and you got gain, no illegal amp needed lol

I didn't write "modeling....." from above, but it is common sense that
when an antenna rotates away from its vertical polarization it also
rotates away from its original vertical gain.

Many times...........even tested them.


Sorry your tests results were debunked by Frank in the xterminator
thread, you are a voodoo tech

Frank never tested any of the antennas. Frank as well as you still
believes the earth is flat.

In , wrote:


Many times...........even tested them.


Sorry your tests results were debunked by Frank in the xterminator
thread, you are a voodoo tech

Frank never tested any of the antennas.


I just tested my 9' whip (mounted on the roo-guard of my Dodge). Tied
it back so the top was parallel with the ground (pointing East, if
that makes a difference). Measurements were compared to the antenna
straight up.......;

SWR didn't change at all, and vertically polarized field strength
dropped by a hair. However, horizontally polarized field strength made
a huge jump to the good. Subjectively, I listened to the toilet bowl
while pulling on the lanyard. Some weak signals disappeared while
others came in that weren't there before. Let the whip go back to
vertical and the old signals came back while the new signals were
lost.

Looks like it's a compromise situation.


Frank as well as you still
believes the earth is flat.


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