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Dr.X August 12th 04 04:26 PM

chipswitch?
 
"Dr.X" Dr.X@null wrote in message
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Is Bills 2 way the only place to buy a chipswitch for an hr2600?

Thanks
-Dr.X




I guess I'm not gettin' out....

BREAKER!

;-)

Dr.X



Dr.X August 13th 04 07:22 PM

"M-Tech" wrote in message
...
You're gettin' out Dr X.....I just can't give ya any info on that
directly....only indirectly


Thanks M-Tech. I thought I was gonna have to get some extra watts to be
heard. :-)

I did that search before and found no one else claiming to sell it. I guess
I'm outta luck.

Thanks a bunch.

Dr.X (at the sand pile, happily sitting in the evacuation zone)



Steveo August 13th 04 07:35 PM

"Dr.X" Dr.X@null wrote:
"M-Tech" wrote in message
...
You're gettin' out Dr X.....I just can't give ya any info on that
directly....only indirectly


Thanks M-Tech. I thought I was gonna have to get some extra watts to be
heard. :-)

I did that search before and found no one else claiming to sell it. I
guess I'm outta luck.

Thanks a bunch.

Dr.X (at the sand pile, happily sitting in the evacuation zone)

Sorry if you answered this already, X. What's wrong with getting
it from Bills?

Hope you're ok with that storm..looks like they've upgraded it.

Dr.X August 13th 04 09:46 PM

"Steveo" wrote in message
...
"Dr.X" Dr.X@null wrote:
"M-Tech" wrote in message
...
You're gettin' out Dr X.....I just can't give ya any info on that
directly....only indirectly


Thanks M-Tech. I thought I was gonna have to get some extra watts to be
heard. :-)

I did that search before and found no one else claiming to sell it. I
guess I'm outta luck.

Thanks a bunch.

Dr.X (at the sand pile, happily sitting in the evacuation zone)

Sorry if you answered this already, X. What's wrong with getting
it from Bills?


Bills says 1 month before I can get it. :-(

Hope you're ok with that storm..looks like they've upgraded it.


Thanks for the concern Steveo.
Just as they upgraded to cat 4, Charlie danced to the east. I'll be find I
but wonder about those that evacuated into that direction.

Dr.X



M-Tech August 13th 04 11:16 PM

You installing yourself? Or is Bill doing that install as well? Keep me
posted. I'm picking up a virgin 2510 tomorrow that I'm considering have the
same swap.

Thought I read they had an adapter that fit into the original socket and
converted it over to the pin-out of the chipswitch? So you could go back
and forth(if needed). That way, no soldering/desoldering is necessary.

Keep me posted:-)
Don

"Dr.X" Dr.X@null wrote in message
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Steveo August 13th 04 11:37 PM

"Dr.X" Dr.X@null wrote:
"Steveo" wrote in message
...
"Dr.X" Dr.X@null wrote:
"M-Tech" wrote in message
...
You're gettin' out Dr X.....I just can't give ya any info on that
directly....only indirectly


Thanks M-Tech. I thought I was gonna have to get some extra watts to
be heard. :-)

I did that search before and found no one else claiming to sell it. I
guess I'm outta luck.

Thanks a bunch.

Dr.X (at the sand pile, happily sitting in the evacuation zone)

Sorry if you answered this already, X. What's wrong with getting
it from Bills?


Bills says 1 month before I can get it. :-(

Hope you're ok with that storm..looks like they've upgraded it.


Thanks for the concern Steveo.
Just as they upgraded to cat 4, Charlie danced to the east. I'll be find
I but wonder about those that evacuated into that direction.

Dr.X

Good news for you on the direction turn, like you said..

One month goes by like a week anymore! :)

Dr.X August 14th 04 12:11 AM

"M-Tech" wrote in message
...
You installing yourself? Or is Bill doing that install as well? Keep me


Yes, I'm installing it myself.

posted. I'm picking up a virgin 2510 tomorrow that I'm considering have

the
same swap.


From what I understand, the chipswitch is the way to go with the 2510 too,
even if you are able to mod the radio without it. I have my 2600 in 11m now
with just a xtal swap (22Mhz to 20) but I do want all the features the
chipswitch has to offer.

Thought I read they had an adapter that fit into the original socket and
converted it over to the pin-out of the chipswitch?


My 2600 does not have a socket. The cpu is soldered directly to the board. I
intend to remove it and replace it with a socket.

So you could go back
and forth(if needed). That way, no soldering/desoldering is necessary.


I don't see an advantage to being able to switch between the chips at will
since the new chip is able to do everything the old one can do, but I could
be wrong. As for the no soldering/desoldering, how can you be absolutly sure
to have a connection to all 62 pins? I'll look around for more info and pass
it along if I find any. I would be interested to know how it's done. I
remember adding memory to a computer back in the old comdor 64 days by
ganging chips on top of the original chips to double the ram. Bent one pin
up (chip select pin) on each chip and ran a line between them all plus a
couple of diods. Worked great. Perhaps what you're talking about is
something similar.

Keep me posted:-)
Don


Will do.
Dr.X



M-Tech August 14th 04 01:58 AM

Okay, now I see. You can solder it directly to the board :-)

For some reason, I thought you had to use a socket.

Don

"M-Tech" wrote in message
...
Well I could be completely wrong then...I thought you had to buy the

socket
and solder that on the board. Then, push the chip in....as seen he
http://www.chipswitch.com/Bills_Socket.htm

Hmm...if you do a good job, maybe I'll let you do mine. LOL!!

Don

"Dr.X" Dr.X@null wrote in message
. ..
"M-Tech" wrote in message
...
You installing yourself? Or is Bill doing that install as well? Keep

me

Yes, I'm installing it myself.

posted. I'm picking up a virgin 2510 tomorrow that I'm considering

have
the
same swap.


From what I understand, the chipswitch is the way to go with the 2510

too,
even if you are able to mod the radio without it. I have my 2600 in 11m

now
with just a xtal swap (22Mhz to 20) but I do want all the features the
chipswitch has to offer.

Thought I read they had an adapter that fit into the original socket

and
converted it over to the pin-out of the chipswitch?


My 2600 does not have a socket. The cpu is soldered directly to the

board.
I
intend to remove it and replace it with a socket.

So you could go back
and forth(if needed). That way, no soldering/desoldering is

necessary.

I don't see an advantage to being able to switch between the chips at

will
since the new chip is able to do everything the old one can do, but I

could
be wrong. As for the no soldering/desoldering, how can you be absolutly

sure
to have a connection to all 62 pins? I'll look around for more info and

pass
it along if I find any. I would be interested to know how it's done. I
remember adding memory to a computer back in the old comdor 64 days by
ganging chips on top of the original chips to double the ram. Bent one

pin
up (chip select pin) on each chip and ran a line between them all plus a
couple of diods. Worked great. Perhaps what you're talking about is
something similar.

Keep me posted:-)
Don


Will do.
Dr.X







Dr.X August 14th 04 05:22 AM

"M-Tech" wrote in message
...
Well I could be completely wrong then...I thought you had to buy the

socket
and solder that on the board. Then, push the chip in....as seen he
http://www.chipswitch.com/Bills_Socket.htm

Hmm...if you do a good job, maybe I'll let you do mine. LOL!!

Don


Yeah, that link shows the socket. But you remove the old chip, and in it's
place you put the socket and plug the new chip into it. This also means that
if you find that you need to put back the old chip, you can just unplug the
chipswitch and plug in the old one without having to do any soldering.

Putting in the socket does require you to desolder the old chip and solder
in the new socket though.

-Dr.X

PS: previous message said 62 pin socket...I meant to say 64.



Dr.X August 14th 04 05:24 AM

"M-Tech" wrote in message
...
Okay, now I see. You can solder it directly to the board :-)

For some reason, I thought you had to use a socket.

Don


You don't have to, but it's the smart thing to do. One advantage is the
ability to revert back to the old chip. Another is that you do not have to
apply heat to the new chip to install it 'cuz you applied the heat to the
socket instead.

-Dr.X



Dr.X August 14th 04 05:36 AM

"Steveo" wrote in message
...
....

Good news for you on the direction turn, like you said..

One month goes by like a week anymore! :)


Yeah but when you're waiting a month for a chipswitch, it's like a little
kid having to wait a month for Christmas. :-p

Dr.X



Steveo August 14th 04 05:44 AM

"Dr.X" Dr.X@null wrote:
"Steveo" wrote in message
...
...

Good news for you on the direction turn, like you said..

One month goes by like a week anymore! :)


Yeah but when you're waiting a month for a chipswitch, it's like a little
kid having to wait a month for Christmas. :-p

Dr.X

That did suck, as I remember.

M-Tech August 14th 04 12:51 PM

Ah. THAT'S where I got the "replace the old chip" from. I see now. I
thought the radio's came with a socket but it was the wrong one(for the
chipswitch).

Well, it looks like I'll be going this route too. I pick mine(hr2510) up
today. I'm going to clean it up and check it out first and then have the
chipswitch installed later.

Don

"Dr.X" Dr.X@null wrote in message
...
"M-Tech" wrote in message
...
Well I could be completely wrong then...I thought you had to buy the

socket
and solder that on the board. Then, push the chip in....as seen he
http://www.chipswitch.com/Bills_Socket.htm

Hmm...if you do a good job, maybe I'll let you do mine. LOL!!

Don


Yeah, that link shows the socket. But you remove the old chip, and in it's
place you put the socket and plug the new chip into it. This also means

that
if you find that you need to put back the old chip, you can just unplug

the
chipswitch and plug in the old one without having to do any soldering.

Putting in the socket does require you to desolder the old chip and solder
in the new socket though.

-Dr.X

PS: previous message said 62 pin socket...I meant to say 64.





Rogerbird1 August 14th 04 11:00 PM

Hi all,
Just a note of info..
Bills 2 Way is the current owner of the Chipswitch Technology.
If you are looking for a chipswitch and socket, there are many places on
the 'net that sell them, But Bill's is the supplier.

Bill's website also has a link page of authorized installers of the
chipswitch.

Rogerbird (ME) is one of those Authorized installers.
I do not sell just the Chipswitches. I don't keep a large qty on hand,
but I have Chipswitches and sockets for installs. I will install a
Chipswitch and socket for $85 plus return shipping.
With the Chipswitch install I also install my 24Mhz enhancement to allow
operation from 24.800 to 29.999MHz. See my website for more info and
other mods available for the HR series radios.
http://Rogerbird.tripod.com

I can be contacted by email at Rogerbird1NO

Roger



M-Tech wrote:

Ah. THAT'S where I got the "replace the old chip" from. I see now. I
thought the radio's came with a socket but it was the wrong one(for the
chipswitch).

Well, it looks like I'll be going this route too. I pick mine(hr2510) up
today. I'm going to clean it up and check it out first and then have the
chipswitch installed later.

Don

"Dr.X" Dr.X@null wrote in message
...

"M-Tech" wrote in message
...

Well I could be completely wrong then...I thought you had to buy the


socket

and solder that on the board. Then, push the chip in....as seen he
http://www.chipswitch.com/Bills_Socket.htm

Hmm...if you do a good job, maybe I'll let you do mine. LOL!!

Don


Yeah, that link shows the socket. But you remove the old chip, and in it's
place you put the socket and plug the new chip into it. This also means


that

if you find that you need to put back the old chip, you can just unplug


the

chipswitch and plug in the old one without having to do any soldering.

Putting in the socket does require you to desolder the old chip and solder
in the new socket though.

-Dr.X

PS: previous message said 62 pin socket...I meant to say 64.






M-Tech August 15th 04 12:52 AM

Ah, thanks:-)

Don

"Rogerbird1" wrote in message
...
Hi all,
Just a note of info..
Bills 2 Way is the current owner of the Chipswitch Technology.
If you are looking for a chipswitch and socket, there are many places on
the 'net that sell them, But Bill's is the supplier.

Bill's website also has a link page of authorized installers of the
chipswitch.

Rogerbird (ME) is one of those Authorized installers.
I do not sell just the Chipswitches. I don't keep a large qty on hand,
but I have Chipswitches and sockets for installs. I will install a
Chipswitch and socket for $85 plus return shipping.
With the Chipswitch install I also install my 24Mhz enhancement to allow
operation from 24.800 to 29.999MHz. See my website for more info and
other mods available for the HR series radios.
http://Rogerbird.tripod.com

I can be contacted by email at Rogerbird1NO

Roger



M-Tech wrote:

Ah. THAT'S where I got the "replace the old chip" from. I see now. I
thought the radio's came with a socket but it was the wrong one(for the
chipswitch).

Well, it looks like I'll be going this route too. I pick mine(hr2510)

up
today. I'm going to clean it up and check it out first and then have

the
chipswitch installed later.

Don

"Dr.X" Dr.X@null wrote in message
...

"M-Tech" wrote in message
...

Well I could be completely wrong then...I thought you had to buy the

socket

and solder that on the board. Then, push the chip in....as seen he
http://www.chipswitch.com/Bills_Socket.htm

Hmm...if you do a good job, maybe I'll let you do mine. LOL!!

Don


Yeah, that link shows the socket. But you remove the old chip, and in

it's
place you put the socket and plug the new chip into it. This also means


that

if you find that you need to put back the old chip, you can just unplug


the

chipswitch and plug in the old one without having to do any soldering.

Putting in the socket does require you to desolder the old chip and

solder
in the new socket though.

-Dr.X

PS: previous message said 62 pin socket...I meant to say 64.








Dr.X August 15th 04 02:07 PM

[top posting on purpose]

M-Tech, If you want it installed for you, I think Rogerbird is the way to
go. I would do it for you but it would take too long for me to get around to
it. Also, he has the chip on hand so he will not be faced with waiting until
the supplier sends to him as I would. I can't say anything about his work
since I have never seen anything done by him but I can tell you this; I've a
component level tech for about 20 years and can tell right away when some
one is talkin' out their @$$. After reading his site, I believe he is _very_
capable of doing the job correctly. The price seems great to me (I would
charge a little more). If you are not experienced enough to de-solder the
old chip without damaging your radio, you should hire Rogerbird1 to do it
for you. Looks like a bargain to me considering if you damage your rig, you
may end up paying a lot more for the repairs.

jmho.
Good Luck,
-Dr.X


"M-Tech" wrote in message
...
Ah, thanks:-)

Don

"Rogerbird1" wrote in message
...
Hi all,
Just a note of info..
Bills 2 Way is the current owner of the Chipswitch Technology.
If you are looking for a chipswitch and socket, there are many places on
the 'net that sell them, But Bill's is the supplier.

Bill's website also has a link page of authorized installers of the
chipswitch.

Rogerbird (ME) is one of those Authorized installers.
I do not sell just the Chipswitches. I don't keep a large qty on hand,
but I have Chipswitches and sockets for installs. I will install a
Chipswitch and socket for $85 plus return shipping.
With the Chipswitch install I also install my 24Mhz enhancement to allow
operation from 24.800 to 29.999MHz. See my website for more info and
other mods available for the HR series radios.
http://Rogerbird.tripod.com

I can be contacted by email at Rogerbird1NO

Roger



M-Tech wrote:

Ah. THAT'S where I got the "replace the old chip" from. I see now.

I
thought the radio's came with a socket but it was the wrong one(for

the
chipswitch).

Well, it looks like I'll be going this route too. I pick mine(hr2510)

up
today. I'm going to clean it up and check it out first and then have

the
chipswitch installed later.

Don

"Dr.X" Dr.X@null wrote in message
...

"M-Tech" wrote in message
...

Well I could be completely wrong then...I thought you had to buy the

socket

and solder that on the board. Then, push the chip in....as seen

he
http://www.chipswitch.com/Bills_Socket.htm

Hmm...if you do a good job, maybe I'll let you do mine. LOL!!

Don


Yeah, that link shows the socket. But you remove the old chip, and in

it's
place you put the socket and plug the new chip into it. This also

means

that

if you find that you need to put back the old chip, you can just

unplug

the

chipswitch and plug in the old one without having to do any soldering.

Putting in the socket does require you to desolder the old chip and

solder
in the new socket though.

-Dr.X

PS: previous message said 62 pin socket...I meant to say 64.











M-Tech August 15th 04 05:15 PM

I'm considering that very thing:-) I might also have him check out this
(gotta get it yet) 2510 and tune it up a tad.....I'll be emailing him
shortly.

I would NEVER consider doing it myself. I'm more than capable of
desoldering/soldering. However, I'd be more concerned with tuning AFTER the
mod and the necessary equipment needed. Also, a guy who does it all the
time would know the rights and wrongs....neither of which I'll know!!!

Yes, the price looks good to me and I'll be contacting him after I receive
this new 2510.

Don

"Dr.X" Dr.X@null wrote in message
...
[top posting on purpose]

M-Tech, If you want it installed for you, I think Rogerbird is the way to
go. I would do it for you but it would take too long for me to get around

to
it. Also, he has the chip on hand so he will not be faced with waiting

until
the supplier sends to him as I would. I can't say anything about his work
since I have never seen anything done by him but I can tell you this; I've

a
component level tech for about 20 years and can tell right away when some
one is talkin' out their @$$. After reading his site, I believe he is

_very_
capable of doing the job correctly. The price seems great to me (I would
charge a little more). If you are not experienced enough to de-solder the
old chip without damaging your radio, you should hire Rogerbird1 to do it
for you. Looks like a bargain to me considering if you damage your rig,

you
may end up paying a lot more for the repairs.

jmho.
Good Luck,
-Dr.X


"M-Tech" wrote in message
...
Ah, thanks:-)

Don

"Rogerbird1" wrote in message
...
Hi all,
Just a note of info..
Bills 2 Way is the current owner of the Chipswitch Technology.
If you are looking for a chipswitch and socket, there are many places

on
the 'net that sell them, But Bill's is the supplier.

Bill's website also has a link page of authorized installers of the
chipswitch.

Rogerbird (ME) is one of those Authorized installers.
I do not sell just the Chipswitches. I don't keep a large qty on hand,
but I have Chipswitches and sockets for installs. I will install a
Chipswitch and socket for $85 plus return shipping.
With the Chipswitch install I also install my 24Mhz enhancement to

allow
operation from 24.800 to 29.999MHz. See my website for more info and
other mods available for the HR series radios.
http://Rogerbird.tripod.com

I can be contacted by email at Rogerbird1NO

Roger



M-Tech wrote:

Ah. THAT'S where I got the "replace the old chip" from. I see now.

I
thought the radio's came with a socket but it was the wrong one(for

the
chipswitch).

Well, it looks like I'll be going this route too. I pick

mine(hr2510)
up
today. I'm going to clean it up and check it out first and then

have
the
chipswitch installed later.

Don

"Dr.X" Dr.X@null wrote in message
...

"M-Tech" wrote in message
...

Well I could be completely wrong then...I thought you had to buy

the

socket

and solder that on the board. Then, push the chip in....as seen

he
http://www.chipswitch.com/Bills_Socket.htm

Hmm...if you do a good job, maybe I'll let you do mine. LOL!!

Don


Yeah, that link shows the socket. But you remove the old chip, and

in
it's
place you put the socket and plug the new chip into it. This also

means

that

if you find that you need to put back the old chip, you can just

unplug

the

chipswitch and plug in the old one without having to do any

soldering.

Putting in the socket does require you to desolder the old chip and

solder
in the new socket though.

-Dr.X

PS: previous message said 62 pin socket...I meant to say 64.














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