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Illegal linear Sparky
2.5K...hmmm. BAD ham!
Hello, I have a Like New, one owner Ameritron AL-1200 Amp for 10-160 meters. I have only used it a handful of times on 17 meters. When I bought it from AES 2 years ago, I had an Electrical Engineering friend come down to test it, as I am visully impaired. It did about 2.5 KW into a Oil Filled Dummy Load. I keep it covered when not in use and I am a non-smoker. I had a deal and he couldn't come up with the money, but it is all packed in its original boxes. I am asking $1800 and I will ship, or 1725, and you ship from near Pgh, Pa. I can be reached at or 724-875-9357 Thanks for reading this, 73, es g.b. Regards, Marty, W3QK |
"I Am Not George" wrote in message m... marty you must be visually impaired becasue this is a cb newsgroup and linears are illegal for cb Linears are not illegal for CB. Don ps, unless they push more than 5 watts!!!!! |
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According to the FCC Web site
Operations Equipment Territorial Limits Linear Amplifier Ban Antennas Ten Codes 47 CFR 95 Subpart D prescribes all operating requirements which apply to CB. General system technical details and major operational regulations are highlighted below. Equipment You must use an FCC certificated CB transmitter at your CB station. You can identify an FCC certificated transmitter by the certification label placed on it by the manufacturer. Territorial Limits You may operate your CB unit within the territorial limits of the fifty United States, the District of Columbia, and the Caribbean and Pacific Insular areas ("U.S."). You may also operate your CB on or over any other area of the world, except within the territorial limits of areas where radio-communications are regulated by another agency of the U.S. or within the territorial limits of any foreign government. You may also be permitted to use your CB unit in Canada subject to the rules of Industry Canada. Travelers to the U.S. may operate a CB unit within the U.S. as long the unit is FCC certificated. Linear Amplifier Ban Users may not raise the power output of their CB units. That would be unfair to the other users sharing the channel by raising the level of radio noise. You must not attach a "linear," "linear amplifier" or any other type of power amplifier to your CB unit, Moreover, you must not modify your CB unit internally. Doing so cancels its certification and you forfeit your authorization to use it. |
Only if the linear "raises the power of the cb". Did you scroll down on my
original post:-) ?? Don "NO SPAM" wrote in message io.net... According to the FCC Web site Operations Equipment Territorial Limits Linear Amplifier Ban Antennas Ten Codes 47 CFR 95 Subpart D prescribes all operating requirements which apply to CB. General system technical details and major operational regulations are highlighted below. Equipment You must use an FCC certificated CB transmitter at your CB station. You can identify an FCC certificated transmitter by the certification label placed on it by the manufacturer. Territorial Limits You may operate your CB unit within the territorial limits of the fifty United States, the District of Columbia, and the Caribbean and Pacific Insular areas ("U.S."). You may also operate your CB on or over any other area of the world, except within the territorial limits of areas where radio-communications are regulated by another agency of the U.S. or within the territorial limits of any foreign government. You may also be permitted to use your CB unit in Canada subject to the rules of Industry Canada. Travelers to the U.S. may operate a CB unit within the U.S. as long the unit is FCC certificated. Linear Amplifier Ban Users may not raise the power output of their CB units. That would be unfair to the other users sharing the channel by raising the level of radio noise. You must not attach a "linear," "linear amplifier" or any other type of power amplifier to your CB unit, Moreover, you must not modify your CB unit internally. Doing so cancels its certification and you forfeit your authorization to use it. |
M-Tech wrote:
Only if the linear "raises the power of the cb". Did you scroll down on my original post:-) ?? Don in this thread? where would a cb radio need a linear to get 4 watts out? please explain. |
If I understood your comment as well as the PS you added, it seems to me, it
would be kind of ridiculous to insert some sort of low level Linear "in to" a transmitter to jack it up to 4 watts or more, don't you think? By the time you get done screwing around doing that, you could by a damned radio with rated output or one of the 10 meter radios that can put out more than the rated legal power, if you want to go that route. The FCC web site also states it is illegal to modify the insides to do same - so either way, it would be technically illegal. It is a moot point in any way shape or form to discuss raising the RF power out of a CB past legal limits regardless how it is to be done, internally or externally. I suppose we're both saying the same thing in a different way! NS "M-Tech" wrote in message ... Only if the linear "raises the power of the cb". Did you scroll down on my original post:-) ?? Don "NO SPAM" wrote in message io.net... According to the FCC Web site Operations Equipment Territorial Limits Linear Amplifier Ban Antennas Ten Codes 47 CFR 95 Subpart D prescribes all operating requirements which apply to CB. General system technical details and major operational regulations are highlighted below. Equipment You must use an FCC certificated CB transmitter at your CB station. You can identify an FCC certificated transmitter by the certification label placed on it by the manufacturer. Territorial Limits You may operate your CB unit within the territorial limits of the fifty United States, the District of Columbia, and the Caribbean and Pacific Insular areas ("U.S."). You may also operate your CB on or over any other area of the world, except within the territorial limits of areas where radio-communications are regulated by another agency of the U.S. or within the territorial limits of any foreign government. You may also be permitted to use your CB unit in Canada subject to the rules of Industry Canada. Travelers to the U.S. may operate a CB unit within the U.S. as long the unit is FCC certificated. Linear Amplifier Ban Users may not raise the power output of their CB units. That would be unfair to the other users sharing the channel by raising the level of radio noise. You must not attach a "linear," "linear amplifier" or any other type of power amplifier to your CB unit, Moreover, you must not modify your CB unit internally. Doing so cancels its certification and you forfeit your authorization to use it. |
....for goodness sake, IT WAS A JOKE SON!!!
Don "NO SPAM" wrote in message io.net... If I understood your comment as well as the PS you added, it seems to me, it would be kind of ridiculous to insert some sort of low level Linear "in to" a transmitter to jack it up to 4 watts or more, don't you think? By the time you get done screwing around doing that, you could by a damned radio with rated output or one of the 10 meter radios that can put out more than the rated legal power, if you want to go that route. The FCC web site also states it is illegal to modify the insides to do same - so either way, it would be technically illegal. It is a moot point in any way shape or form to discuss raising the RF power out of a CB past legal limits regardless how it is to be done, internally or externally. I suppose we're both saying the same thing in a different way! NS "M-Tech" wrote in message ... Only if the linear "raises the power of the cb". Did you scroll down on my original post:-) ?? Don "NO SPAM" wrote in message io.net... According to the FCC Web site Operations Equipment Territorial Limits Linear Amplifier Ban Antennas Ten Codes 47 CFR 95 Subpart D prescribes all operating requirements which apply to CB. General system technical details and major operational regulations are highlighted below. Equipment You must use an FCC certificated CB transmitter at your CB station. You can identify an FCC certificated transmitter by the certification label placed on it by the manufacturer. Territorial Limits You may operate your CB unit within the territorial limits of the fifty United States, the District of Columbia, and the Caribbean and Pacific Insular areas ("U.S."). You may also operate your CB on or over any other area of the world, except within the territorial limits of areas where radio-communications are regulated by another agency of the U.S. or within the territorial limits of any foreign government. You may also be permitted to use your CB unit in Canada subject to the rules of Industry Canada. Travelers to the U.S. may operate a CB unit within the U.S. as long the unit is FCC certificated. Linear Amplifier Ban Users may not raise the power output of their CB units. That would be unfair to the other users sharing the channel by raising the level of radio noise. You must not attach a "linear," "linear amplifier" or any other type of power amplifier to your CB unit, Moreover, you must not modify your CB unit internally. Doing so cancels its certification and you forfeit your authorization to use it. |
Yeah, in this thread. My first reply simply states that "linears" are not
illegal in CB. And if you scroll down far enough, you'll see the punch line. And the fact that no one makes(to the best of my knowledge)a 4 watt linear, was the "play" in my sarcasm. Call it a failed attempt at humor:-) Although, technically, it IS true. Don "jim" wrote in message t... M-Tech wrote: Only if the linear "raises the power of the cb". Did you scroll down on my original post:-) ?? Don in this thread? where would a cb radio need a linear to get 4 watts out? please explain. |
OK, well, in that case - please refer to your reply to Jim regarding your
ill fated attempt at humor! That was a better response. NS "M-Tech" wrote in message ... ...for goodness sake, IT WAS A JOKE SON!!! Don "NO SPAM" wrote in message io.net... If I understood your comment as well as the PS you added, it seems to me, it would be kind of ridiculous to insert some sort of low level Linear "in to" a transmitter to jack it up to 4 watts or more, don't you think? By the time you get done screwing around doing that, you could by a damned radio with rated output or one of the 10 meter radios that can put out more than the rated legal power, if you want to go that route. The FCC web site also states it is illegal to modify the insides to do same - so either way, it would be technically illegal. It is a moot point in any way shape or form to discuss raising the RF power out of a CB past legal limits regardless how it is to be done, internally or externally. I suppose we're both saying the same thing in a different way! NS "M-Tech" wrote in message ... Only if the linear "raises the power of the cb". Did you scroll down on my original post:-) ?? Don "NO SPAM" wrote in message io.net... According to the FCC Web site Operations Equipment Territorial Limits Linear Amplifier Ban Antennas Ten Codes 47 CFR 95 Subpart D prescribes all operating requirements which apply to CB. General system technical details and major operational regulations are highlighted below. Equipment You must use an FCC certificated CB transmitter at your CB station. You can identify an FCC certificated transmitter by the certification label placed on it by the manufacturer. Territorial Limits You may operate your CB unit within the territorial limits of the fifty United States, the District of Columbia, and the Caribbean and Pacific Insular areas ("U.S."). You may also operate your CB on or over any other area of the world, except within the territorial limits of areas where radio-communications are regulated by another agency of the U.S. or within the territorial limits of any foreign government. You may also be permitted to use your CB unit in Canada subject to the rules of Industry Canada. Travelers to the U.S. may operate a CB unit within the U.S. as long the unit is FCC certificated. Linear Amplifier Ban Users may not raise the power output of their CB units. That would be unfair to the other users sharing the channel by raising the level of radio noise. You must not attach a "linear," "linear amplifier" or any other type of power amplifier to your CB unit, Moreover, you must not modify your CB unit internally. Doing so cancels its certification and you forfeit your authorization to use it. |
On Sun, 29 Aug 2004 00:48:53 GMT, "Hamguy" wrote in
: Ya...but it does MORE than the allowed 1500 watts PEP, therefore it's illegal. For a "hamguy" you sure don't know the ham rules very well. -----= Posted via Newsfeeds.Com, Uncensored Usenet News =----- http://www.newsfeeds.com - The #1 Newsgroup Service in the World! -----== Over 100,000 Newsgroups - 19 Different Servers! =----- |
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On Sat, 28 Aug 2004 18:12:48 -0400, "M-Tech"
wrote: "I Am Not George" wrote in message om... marty you must be visually impaired becasue this is a cb newsgroup and linears are illegal for cb Linears are not illegal for CB. Don ps, unless they push more than 5 watts!!!!! Actually, you're quite mistaken. FCC rules clearly state that external amplifiers are illegal, as are modifications made to the transmitter of any type-accepted equipment. This effectively determines any amplification of any CB equipment to be illegal. It would be illegal, for example, for me to connect my vintage SONY ICB-1000W portable 1-watt radios to a 3-watt amplifier (if such a ridiculous piece of equipment actually existed) because I would be using external amplification, which the FCC has ruled illegal. Raymond Sirois KAXN-9546 SysOp: The Lost Chord BBS 607-733-5745 telnet://thelostchord.dns2go.com:6000 |
LOL!!!
Don "NO SPAM" wrote in message io.net... OK, well, in that case - please refer to your reply to Jim regarding your ill fated attempt at humor! That was a better response. NS "M-Tech" wrote in message ... ...for goodness sake, IT WAS A JOKE SON!!! Don "NO SPAM" wrote in message io.net... If I understood your comment as well as the PS you added, it seems to me, it would be kind of ridiculous to insert some sort of low level Linear "in to" a transmitter to jack it up to 4 watts or more, don't you think? By the time you get done screwing around doing that, you could by a damned radio with rated output or one of the 10 meter radios that can put out more than the rated legal power, if you want to go that route. The FCC web site also states it is illegal to modify the insides to do same - so either way, it would be technically illegal. It is a moot point in any way shape or form to discuss raising the RF power out of a CB past legal limits regardless how it is to be done, internally or externally. I suppose we're both saying the same thing in a different way! NS "M-Tech" wrote in message ... Only if the linear "raises the power of the cb". Did you scroll down on my original post:-) ?? Don "NO SPAM" wrote in message io.net... According to the FCC Web site Operations Equipment Territorial Limits Linear Amplifier Ban Antennas Ten Codes 47 CFR 95 Subpart D prescribes all operating requirements which apply to CB. General system technical details and major operational regulations are highlighted below. Equipment You must use an FCC certificated CB transmitter at your CB station. You can identify an FCC certificated transmitter by the certification label placed on it by the manufacturer. Territorial Limits You may operate your CB unit within the territorial limits of the fifty United States, the District of Columbia, and the Caribbean and Pacific Insular areas ("U.S."). You may also operate your CB on or over any other area of the world, except within the territorial limits of areas where radio-communications are regulated by another agency of the U.S. or within the territorial limits of any foreign government. You may also be permitted to use your CB unit in Canada subject to the rules of Industry Canada. Travelers to the U.S. may operate a CB unit within the U.S. as long the unit is FCC certificated. Linear Amplifier Ban Users may not raise the power output of their CB units. That would be unfair to the other users sharing the channel by raising the level of radio noise. You must not attach a "linear," "linear amplifier" or any other type of power amplifier to your CB unit, Moreover, you must not modify your CB unit internally. Doing so cancels its certification and you forfeit your authorization to use it. |
Hello Marty:
Those are pretty well made amps. The Aux band switch position can be used for 12, 11, and 10 meters. Not a big deal to mod. There ALC protection in the Ameritron Amps is quit impresive I think. I have seen the Ameritron Amp with 2 each 3CX800 Tubes also do a cool 2500 out. Pretty impressive power levels, if you have the right antenna to be able to deal with that much steam. Your price is a good price if I was in the market I would have been intretsed. Saw a Ameritron 1500 that uses the 3CX1500 Tube at the TRW Swap Meet selling for 2000, and it was in good shape, but only lasted a minuites there. What I would like to see is more modification info on these larger amps to go to 6 meters. Especially the mod info that shows the plate tank coil tap, and input matching mods. Some of the hard core 6 meter guys have bought brand new Band Switching Switches, so that the extra band could ber added, without loosing the other band capibility. Maybe even a relay that would allow the 12, 11, and 10 meter poistion to be used, or the 6 meter band, yeah! Anyway good luck Jay in the Mojave RF Police wrote: 2.5K...hmmm. BAD ham! Hello, I have a Like New, one owner Ameritron AL-1200 Amp for 10-160 meters. I have only used it a handful of times on 17 meters. When I bought it from AES 2 years ago, I had an Electrical Engineering friend come down to test it, as I am visully impaired. It did about 2.5 KW into a Oil Filled Dummy Load. I keep it covered when not in use and I am a non-smoker. I had a deal and he couldn't come up with the money, but it is all packed in its original boxes. I am asking $1800 and I will ship, or 1725, and you ship from near Pgh, Pa. I can be reached at or 724-875-9357 Thanks for reading this, 73, es g.b. Regards, Marty, W3QK |
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1500 watts max...look it up!
"Frank Gilliland" wrote in message ... On Sun, 29 Aug 2004 00:48:53 GMT, "Hamguy" wrote in : Ya...but it does MORE than the allowed 1500 watts PEP, therefore it's illegal. For a "hamguy" you sure don't know the ham rules very well. -----= Posted via Newsfeeds.Com, Uncensored Usenet News =----- http://www.newsfeeds.com - The #1 Newsgroup Service in the World! -----== Over 100,000 Newsgroups - 19 Different Servers! =----- |
On Sun, 29 Aug 2004 20:34:55 GMT, "Hamguy" wrote:
1500 watts max...look it up! "Frank Gilliland" wrote in message .. . On Sun, 29 Aug 2004 00:48:53 GMT, "Hamguy" wrote in : Ya...but it does MORE than the allowed 1500 watts PEP, therefore it's illegal. For a "hamguy" you sure don't know the ham rules very well. No, you said that because the Amplifer could do more than 1500 watts that it is an illegal amp, which isn't true. |
Hamguy wrote:
Ya...but it does MORE than the allowed 1500 watts PEP, therefore it's illegal. Not illegal for a ham to own and not illegal for him to operate it just as long as he keeps the amp to the legal llimit. |
Yeppers...you're right. But we all know that many a good ham just *might*
crank it up above the legal limit to work that rare DX station. Illegal, YES...Uncommon, NO. Kinda' like having a Maseratti and keeping it below 55 mph! "Sir Cumference" wrote in message ... Hamguy wrote: Ya...but it does MORE than the allowed 1500 watts PEP, therefore it's illegal. Not illegal for a ham to own and not illegal for him to operate it just as long as he keeps the amp to the legal llimit. |
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On Fri, 03 Sep 2004 02:13:15 GMT, "Hamguy" wrote in
: Yeppers...you're right. But we all know that many a good ham just *might* crank it up above the legal limit to work that rare DX station. No doubt there are a number of hams that feel compelled to substitute raw RF power for their lack of skill and patience. Illegal, YES... Yes, it is illegal to operate above the legal limits. But your statement was that an amplifier capable of output power in excess of the legal limit is illegal. It is not. Uncommon, NO. No, Justin, ignorance is not uncommon. Kinda' like having a Maseratti and keeping it below 55 mph! ......gee, there's that old and stale speeding analogy again. -----= Posted via Newsfeeds.Com, Uncensored Usenet News =----- http://www.newsfeeds.com - The #1 Newsgroup Service in the World! -----== Over 100,000 Newsgroups - 19 Different Servers! =----- |
"Hamguy" wrote in message ...
Yeppers...you're right. But we all know that many a good ham just *might* crank it up above the legal limit to work that rare DX station. Illegal, YES...Uncommon, NO. Kinda' like having a Maseratti and keeping it below 55 mph! "Sir Cumference" wrote in message ... Hamguy wrote: Ya...but it does MORE than the allowed 1500 watts PEP, therefore it's illegal. Not illegal for a ham to own and not illegal for him to operate it just as long as he keeps the amp to the legal llimit. hamguy = skipp. You should change your nic to the illegalcbhamoutlawguy LOL! |
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